Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I don't ever play like I did in champs. That was big mac 3 at least. Welcome to normal Mac.112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:35 pm nah i just don't see the same mac i saw in the other games i played with you
i could be the different setting- i'm just not sold on you being town and don't particularly think you've done anything you couldn't replicate in your wolf game. maybe i'm wrong. i read a bit of your d1 iso during d1 and came away really liking you, but i don't have the liberty of going back to that any longer and don't know how much i should trust you.
i don't see the depth of your thought i saw before and you had an extremely weird response to me when i complained of real-life taking a toll on me yesterday
are you gonna needlessly shade me until you give yourself away like i hope you're doing?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:44 pm 112, are you gonna tell me why my null reads are scum or what?
Getting pretty sick of you and Radishes both responding to legitimate questions with “bah shade” “bah smears.”112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:49 pmare you gonna needlessly shade me until you give yourself away like i hope you're doing?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:44 pm 112, are you gonna tell me why my null reads are scum or what?
And me asking you to back up your read is not “shade.”
I’m trying to solve you and you won’t answer a simple question.112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:02 pm i'm not going to talk about players who aren't in this dream, but nova's pretty clearly scum and imo your scum pool resembles right but is probably quite wrong.
like, i think everything you seem to be having below null is <rand. maybe i'm making too many level 5 reads that i'm wifoming myself out, but it really looks like you're trying to push bad lynches to me and are picking the best players you can to fit that strategy.
maybe it's not the null so much i disagree with as much as believing most of the wolf team is above your scum-lean point while few of it seem below it based on what you've pushed in the thread.
you seem very over-interested in clearing yourself rather than particularly solving anyone, and i don't think you've responded to pushes in the way a civ would in this way
it wasn't phrased nicely. a gentle reminder would have been better appreciated. :[Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:53 pmGetting pretty sick of you and Radishes both responding to legitimate questions with “bah shade” “bah smears.”112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:49 pmare you gonna needlessly shade me until you give yourself away like i hope you're doing?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:44 pm 112, are you gonna tell me why my null reads are scum or what?
You called me scum.
And me asking you to back up your read is not “shade.”
because i think nova's scum and you had nova in the null section.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:05 pmI’m trying to solve you and you won’t answer a simple question.112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:02 pm i'm not going to talk about players who aren't in this dream, but nova's pretty clearly scum and imo your scum pool resembles right but is probably quite wrong.
like, i think everything you seem to be having below null is <rand. maybe i'm making too many level 5 reads that i'm wifoming myself out, but it really looks like you're trying to push bad lynches to me and are picking the best players you can to fit that strategy.
maybe it's not the null so much i disagree with as much as believing most of the wolf team is above your scum-lean point while few of it seem below it based on what you've pushed in the thread.
you seem very over-interested in clearing yourself rather than particularly solving anyone, and i don't think you've responded to pushes in the way a civ would in this way
Why do you think my null list has scum in it?
112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:06 pmbecause i think nova's scum and you had nova in the null section.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:05 pmI’m trying to solve you and you won’t answer a simple question.112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:02 pm i'm not going to talk about players who aren't in this dream, but nova's pretty clearly scum and imo your scum pool resembles right but is probably quite wrong.
like, i think everything you seem to be having below null is <rand. maybe i'm making too many level 5 reads that i'm wifoming myself out, but it really looks like you're trying to push bad lynches to me and are picking the best players you can to fit that strategy.
maybe it's not the null so much i disagree with as much as believing most of the wolf team is above your scum-lean point while few of it seem below it based on what you've pushed in the thread.
you seem very over-interested in clearing yourself rather than particularly solving anyone, and i don't think you've responded to pushes in the way a civ would in this way
Why do you think my null list has scum in it?
Did someone say you were a teacher? Me too. I empathise.
because i trust MR and agree with his analysis of the wagon; and I think Eva being town, which I believe and want to rely on, makes nova ever more likely to be scum than most other players, particularly to me because I have private knowledge of my alignment.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:08 pm112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:06 pmbecause i think nova's scum and you had nova in the null section.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:05 pmI’m trying to solve you and you won’t answer a simple question.112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:02 pm i'm not going to talk about players who aren't in this dream, but nova's pretty clearly scum and imo your scum pool resembles right but is probably quite wrong.
like, i think everything you seem to be having below null is <rand. maybe i'm making too many level 5 reads that i'm wifoming myself out, but it really looks like you're trying to push bad lynches to me and are picking the best players you can to fit that strategy.
maybe it's not the null so much i disagree with as much as believing most of the wolf team is above your scum-lean point while few of it seem below it based on what you've pushed in the thread.
you seem very over-interested in clearing yourself rather than particularly solving anyone, and i don't think you've responded to pushes in the way a civ would in this way
Why do you think my null list has scum in it?
Why is Nova scum?
What's your subject?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:11 pmDid someone say you were a teacher? Me too. I empathise.
.....those are the reads you promised you needed to be in a better head space for?
You made a FE3H game without me?Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:13 pm ...
Apperantly they are claiming they tried to deliver at 7:30 but didn't have access. Access to what you incompetent fucks? You were instructed to put it in the mailbox and if that didn't fit then on the doorstep.
I can feel my blood pressure rising already. This is gonna be a pain to fight properly since I needed this tonight to finish some of my homework that is due tomorrow.
And I still need to GM the next session of the FE3H game for my friends. They're holding literally everything up and has made my week a hell of bureaucracy.
It's an FI (Friend Insert). They quite literally know nothing of the original game outside of what info we GMs have given them and what they have been able to figure out (though we don't confirm it to then).Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:26 pmYou made a FE3H game without me?Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:13 pm ...
Apperantly they are claiming they tried to deliver at 7:30 but didn't have access. Access to what you incompetent fucks? You were instructed to put it in the mailbox and if that didn't fit then on the doorstep.
I can feel my blood pressure rising already. This is gonna be a pain to fight properly since I needed this tonight to finish some of my homework that is due tomorrow.
And I still need to GM the next session of the FE3H game for my friends. They're holding literally everything up and has made my week a hell of bureaucracy.
You and I operate in the same way then.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:20 amAlso I doubt you'll believe self meta for obvious reasons but I lean far more on the Beck side of the scale. I bus only when I have to and I'm not going to constantly call out a teammate as scummy and vote them up when there are other wagons available.
Especially when they are the godfather. It doesn't matter if I think they're being sleazy, I can work with that, I've certainly worked with worse. I'm not going to throw away that mechanical advantage for any level of credit Day 1.
If you are asking me to speculate on the mechanics of this "place," I will admit that I always assumed the participants had been split into two new threads- it had not occurred to me that a select group goes into a new "level" while everyone else remains behind. Vaguely remembering the film (I saw a long time ago and I was deep in my cups), that latter theory makes more sense, I think. If that's the case, then I would assume we have these special rules and everybody else gets a normal poll, etc. I would also assume mafia BTSC would be split accordingly, but really that's a guess on how I would run it.Dom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:21 amEpignosis, what do you think of this one?Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:09 am...Dom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:06 am..."left behind".Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:45 pmMy thought process of how your words lead your words potentially lead towards a conclusion is this.Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:38 pmI'm confused as to what shade I'd be throwing here.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:37 pmNo, I said had. The thread was locked, it was still visible. Only posting was restricted. Wouldn't be hard to ISO and grab quotes at night
What I was doing was assuming you were shading Epi for it with how you phrased your words.
Wondering how he had access so effortlessly. Wondering how he had access when we don't. Only those left behind have access. Town can't contact those left behind, while scum probably can. Epi is scum and getting info from teammates.
That's specific.
Why do you say it?I don't trust iaafr whatsoever.
Because I'm fairly certain we went down a level since we were the ones who lost access to the original thread. The fact that we lost it means that the others are likely all still posting there.
Hence, they were left behind on the first level while we went deeper. Not really that much to say there. It legitimately seems rather straightforward.
I don't know that they don't have their own thread, entirely new and entirely separate. You do. Why?
For whatever it's worth, I didn't interpret Dom's question that way.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:34 amI've already called him as shading Epi though? So I've already been calling him out. My issue right now is seeing if he's lying/joking or is serious about some of his takes.iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:26 am the main issue I have with pawn is a negative space one where I'd assume he has more takes on my actual takes but he seems cagey
also this whole dom push on me is obviously scummy and scum pawn would be aware of that and it feels like he's on the fence about that too
Since I don't generally derp clear but he's doing it so consistently, if obv scummily from my perspective. So it's this weird case of conflicting views.
And the rest of the takes has been due to general household chores taking up time from me doing major commenting. Laundry, dinner, arguing about UPS needing signatures to drop off a laptop charger cord without signatures since they deliver during class times. You know, the usual stuff that is just kinda more difficult than usual to post while doing.
I feel like I'm reading a foreign language- I'm not familiar with many of these abbreviations and terms.Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:50 am Anyway Epi's posts are performative, not informative and they're designed to seep into the nature of people's want for content.
It's IIoA. They say many words, but not much in the end.
More than that, they're doing the Bullets for Bullets tactic I outlined in my scum guide. It feels like the goal of the posts is to be unreadably long and make you skim and say generally "agreeable" things people can't exactly contest without strictly committing anywhere.
Everything in Mafia is "performative." Even not showing up qualifies (in a "John Cage" sort of way). You are correct in calling them not "informative," as they were not meant to provide more information (a curious irony, that, since my posts are the only relic of the old world anybody has).Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:50 am Anyway Epi's posts are performative, not informative
I didn't design them to seep into anything. That's a strange assumption on your part, and another curious irony, which leads me to my grievance with you. You have made nineteen of twenty-four posts in which you either post a cartoon or complain about circumstances.Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:50 am and they're designed to seep into the nature of people's want for content.
I don't get the reference.
No, they do not say many words (from me). They only say many words because they are quotes from the people who said them. My commentary is rather terse.
I don't know what that means, but I assume is means mafia players make lists (or should make lists- I've not had the privilege of purchasing or reading your guide).Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:50 am More than that, they're doing the Bullets for Bullets tactic I outlined in my scum guide.
I suppose Dostoevsky wanted to make me skim when he penned The Brothers Karamazov. Hmm.Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:50 am It feels like the goal of the posts is to be unreadably long
I am not really sure that it is within my power to "make [someone] skim." People read or they skim or they ignore. I have no power over that. I likewise have no power over what others say in response. Why can't they contest the things I've said? What is wrong with getting people to make decisions?Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:50 am and make you skim and say generally "agreeable" things people can't exactly contest without strictly committing anywhere.
Well then I don't see how she arrived at that at all.iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:23 pm IIoA = information instead of analysis, in reference to the belief that scum players tend to rehash the obvious and simply describe situations without having inserting significant amounts of independent thought more than town players, who naturally tend to have such independent thought, and don't need to force content by rehashing the obvious
Well let's see. You outright call her scum, Epi is hinting hard, I have her down pretty low. I know Eva town reads her but I honestly don't know the reads of the other players off the top of my head.
