The Syndicate

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:02 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:59 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:55 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:52 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:49 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:34 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:32 am

Yeah just be 100% accurate literally every time /s

Not really but that was a hero shot if she is town
Not a Poe shot

Me and Mac discussed how Creature was being wolfy I hardly came up with the shot on my own. Not a single person in this game when asked why Creature is town gave me an answer I asked multiple times.

I shot a wolfy target so you can take your indignation somewhere else you don't get to get angry at me for taking a shot on someone who soft defended Seanzie and moved off wagon at the end of the day.

You don't get to make me feel like shit for shooting a town. Sorry mate this is wolfy as fuck.

I read only 100 posts in all game and I know nutella answered with a TR.
Why didn't you notice that?

I don't need to agree with every town read.

I don't need to worship the grounds nutella or Mac walk on.

You all act like these players can't be wrong. Read Creatures EoD and explain to me how the FUCK is towny. Nobody can because it's not. I'm not here to be made to feel bad for shooting someone I spent an entire day looking for answers on. I spent the whole day trying to figure out Creature and none of you gave me answers so don't play this game.

You wanted me to shoot a Rondo who is most likely just town so you don't get to act like this because I thought Rondo was towny at eod

Let's take bout 20% of 'er squirrely neon

This is the logic I followed for Sabi. Nobody could explain why Sabi was town. Nobody would answer me with straight answers when I asked about it.

I didn't shoot Sabi because people were calling them a wolf. Thar was part of it in that Mac made me look closer at them. I shot Sabi because I got ignored when I asked about them. Or given weak answers.

I got the same when I asked about Creature. So if you want to tell me how towny he was. Why did nobody tell me the multiple times I asked yesterday?

Well I certainly couldnt have hard defended or analyzed creature, but I was requesting we go back the plur concept lol

Mac has written a lot of good stuff about spew.

Spew is not something I'm good at.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:58 am After reading Alison's scotty interactions I don't think he is her partner.

Sir, this is copyright.

Does anyone want some of my skittle spittle so you can get sick and miss work

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:15 am Party Crasher
Lilypetal
Urist
Dyslexicon
Scotty
MR
SVS

I wish to arbitrarily remove party crasher out of this. So I am.

Removed.

Lilypetal
Urist
Dyslexicon
Scotty
MR
SVS

Tell me family, who do you wish to arbitrarily remove from it?

Scotto, SVS, MR, Dyslexicon ... Lily.

I think I wanna arbitrarily remove Urist from it. I do have a pretty strong gut townread.

Removed.

Lilypetal
Dyslexicon
Scotty
MR
SVS

Behold, today's POE. Similar but different to yesterday's POE. Let's solve these 5 first.

LGTM

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:25 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:49 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:47 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:47 am [VOTE: michelle] aubergine

why?

I have only two games if prior experience with Michelle. In one she was my wolfmate and in the other she was clearly different. She feels like the first here.

Besides that, Alison made a post about how easy Michelle was to read at one point, so casual that it wasn’t so much a town read as a preemptive dismissal that anyone could wolfread Michelle. It pinged me then, it pings me now.

I would prefer Michelle get looked at closer tomorrow

Which is you prefer, if you can pick only one

Michelle gets examined less today, but gets votes
Michelle gets voted for less today, but gets examined

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:50 am Does anyone want some of my skittle spittle so you can get sick and miss work

Yes

It snowed a foot here

Get me out

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:38 am Ok well I'm catching up gosh

While you catch up, don’t ask mac about why he’s talking about multiball. That Mac is dead.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:54 amGet me out

I dont even get to miss work I just have to suffer so to make up for this imbalance in the world, you may obtain my illness and miss work

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:49 am Mac has written a lot of good stuff about spew.

Spew is not something I'm good at.

You know what I love about mafia.

Some people are good at gut
Some are good at reading spew
Some are good at vote analysis and wagon analysis
Some are good at assessing motivations.

And town is at its best when it benefits from all of those skills together at once.

Nothing better than town bringing its strengths together.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:53 am It snowed a foot here

Wow that's pretty horrific, do you know if they've found the rest of the body?

I'm also sick and my sleep schedule is all fucked up please pity me

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:55 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:52 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:49 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:34 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:32 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:31 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:22 am Look I get that my range is insane and that I have a better wolf game than a town game but like jfc what do I have to do to not have suspicion as town lol

You can start by not shooting townies

Yeah just be 100% accurate literally every time /s

Not really but that was a hero shot if she is town
Not a Poe shot

Me and Mac discussed how Creature was being wolfy I hardly came up with the shot on my own. Not a single person in this game when asked why Creature is town gave me an answer I asked multiple times.

I shot a wolfy target so you can take your indignation somewhere else you don't get to get angry at me for taking a shot on someone who soft defended Seanzie and moved off wagon at the end of the day.

You don't get to make me feel like shit for shooting a town. Sorry mate this is wolfy as fuck.

I read only 100 posts in all game and I know nutella answered with a TR.
Why didn't you notice that?

I don't need to agree with every town read.

I don't need to worship the grounds nutella or Mac walk on.

You all act like these players can't be wrong. Read Creatures EoD and explain to me how the FUCK is towny. Nobody can because it's not. I'm not here to be made to feel bad for shooting someone I spent an entire day looking for answers on. I spent the whole day trying to figure out Creature and none of you gave me answers so don't play this game.

You wanted me to shoot a Rondo who is most likely just town so you don't get to act like this because I thought Rondo was towny at eod

EOD? Try all game

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:59 am I'm also sick and my sleep schedule is all fucked up please pity me

You have my pity

Interesting note that I am somehow not in anybody's poe that I aware of

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:11 am I have now read Alison's treatment of the POE (I forgot I had already taken SVS out and read her too).

MR
Scotty
Guillo
Lilypetal
Dizzy

I believe that Dizzy and Scotty are not mafia with Alison.

Lilypetal and MR remain viable, Guillo has a mixed bag of interactions with her, but also finds theatre much easier so what might positive interactions for others don't get him points.

So my POE is now 3.

I wish to put Urist back in it, because I have a sense that Urist and Alison may have been operating in concert on day 1 against Golden to unsettle him and prevent him from getting a foothold in the game.

My POE is now.

Guillo
Lilypetal
Urist
MR

in that order.

I need 1 more.

Why would I care about golden

Kinda feel like I havent earned that...

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:14 am My attempts to be a better person fail again.

Neon you wanna make out? not with me of course. But this cardboard cutout of Liam Chris Henry Hemsworth-Neeson-Cavil The 3rd

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:04 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:14 am My attempts to be a better person fail again.

Neon you wanna make out? not with me of course. But this cardboard cutout of Liam Chris Henry Hemsworth-Neeson-Cavil The 3rd

Or me

Who has a much simpler name and is sick so is therefore superior to the cardboard cutout

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:11 am I have now read Alison's treatment of the POE (I forgot I had already taken SVS out and read her too).

MR
Scotty
Guillo
Lilypetal
Dizzy

I believe that Dizzy and Scotty are not mafia with Alison.

Lilypetal and MR remain viable, Guillo has a mixed bag of interactions with her, but also finds theatre much easier so what might positive interactions for others don't get him points.

So my POE is now 3.

I wish to put Urist back in it, because I have a sense that Urist and Alison may have been operating in concert on day 1 against Golden to unsettle him and prevent him from getting a foothold in the game.

My POE is now.

Guillo
Lilypetal
Urist
MR

in that order.

I need 1 more.

Why would I care about golden

Because I’m a nice person really

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:37 am Catching up.
@DrWilgy please do not shoot rondo, I am fairly certain that he is town.

dab

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:05 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:11 am I have now read Alison's treatment of the POE (I forgot I had already taken SVS out and read her too).

MR
Scotty
Guillo
Lilypetal
Dizzy

I believe that Dizzy and Scotty are not mafia with Alison.

Lilypetal and MR remain viable, Guillo has a mixed bag of interactions with her, but also finds theatre much easier so what might positive interactions for others don't get him points.

So my POE is now 3.

I wish to put Urist back in it, because I have a sense that Urist and Alison may have been operating in concert on day 1 against Golden to unsettle him and prevent him from getting a foothold in the game.

My POE is now.

Guillo
Lilypetal
Urist
MR

in that order.

I need 1 more.

Why would I care about golden

Because I’m a nice person really

I mean yeah that seems to be true, but mac saying I would specifically sabotage you is weird

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:53 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:25 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:49 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:47 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:47 am [VOTE: michelle] aubergine

why?

I have only two games if prior experience with Michelle. In one she was my wolfmate and in the other she was clearly different. She feels like the first here.

Besides that, Alison made a post about how easy Michelle was to read at one point, so casual that it wasn’t so much a town read as a preemptive dismissal that anyone could wolfread Michelle. It pinged me then, it pings me now.

I would prefer Michelle get looked at closer tomorrow

Which is you prefer, if you can pick only one

Michelle gets examined less today, but gets votes
Michelle gets voted for less today, but gets examined

Second

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:57 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:49 am Mac has written a lot of good stuff about spew.

Spew is not something I'm good at.

You know what I love about mafia.

Some people are good at gut
Some are good at reading spew
Some are good at vote analysis and wagon analysis
Some are good at assessing motivations.

And town is at its best when it benefits from all of those skills together at once.

Nothing better than town bringing its strengths together.

And here I am good at baiting out votes and being a goblin

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:05 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:11 am I have now read Alison's treatment of the POE (I forgot I had already taken SVS out and read her too).

MR
Scotty
Guillo
Lilypetal
Dizzy

I believe that Dizzy and Scotty are not mafia with Alison.

Lilypetal and MR remain viable, Guillo has a mixed bag of interactions with her, but also finds theatre much easier so what might positive interactions for others don't get him points.

So my POE is now 3.

I wish to put Urist back in it, because I have a sense that Urist and Alison may have been operating in concert on day 1 against Golden to unsettle him and prevent him from getting a foothold in the game.

My POE is now.

Guillo
Lilypetal
Urist
MR

in that order.

I need 1 more.

Why would I care about golden

Because I’m a nice person really

In all seriousness, though, Urist, so far based on the flips I’m not seeing a mafia team that would look at me and say ‘we need to worry about that guy’ so I don’t dislike your response here. My initial reaction to your posting towards me remains true now… it was an indication that you didn’t know me more than anything else.

I want to make a [REDACTED] joke but its [REDACTED] so I wont. Plus Nanook might get angry if I say the word [REDACTED]

But there’s no reason in my mind that you and Alison wouldn’t both independently be anti-town and, not knowing me, perceive me as a mark.

I haven’t really retaliated you in a while. Do you think there’s a good reason I should townread you @Urist

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:13 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:05 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:11 am I have now read Alison's treatment of the POE (I forgot I had already taken SVS out and read her too).

MR
Scotty
Guillo
Lilypetal
Dizzy

I believe that Dizzy and Scotty are not mafia with Alison.

Lilypetal and MR remain viable, Guillo has a mixed bag of interactions with her, but also finds theatre much easier so what might positive interactions for others don't get him points.

So my POE is now 3.

I wish to put Urist back in it, because I have a sense that Urist and Alison may have been operating in concert on day 1 against Golden to unsettle him and prevent him from getting a foothold in the game.

My POE is now.

Guillo
Lilypetal
Urist
MR

in that order.

I need 1 more.

Why would I care about golden

Because I’m a nice person really

In all seriousness, though, Urist, so far based on the flips I’m not seeing a mafia team that would look at me and say ‘we need to worry about that guy’ so I don’t dislike your response here. My initial reaction to your posting towards me remains true now… it was an indication that you didn’t know me more than anything else.

Yeah fair, my read on you has improved since Alison flipped mafia. Need to double-check that stuff tho

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:18 am I want to make a [REDACTED] joke but its [REDACTED] so I wont. Plus Nanook might get angry if I say the word [REDACTED]

Spoiler: show

This meme was made by the REDACTED club

I already said tortoise plenty of times. It’s fine.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:18 am But there’s no reason in my mind that you and Alison wouldn’t both independently be anti-town and, not knowing me, perceive me as a mark.

I haven’t really retaliated you in a while. Do you think there’s a good reason I should townread you @Urist

Not retaliated. Reevaluated

Sorry sometimes the dyslexia gets me.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:20 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:18 am But there’s no reason in my mind that you and Alison wouldn’t both independently be anti-town and, not knowing me, perceive me as a mark.

I haven’t really retaliated you in a while. Do you think there’s a good reason I should townread you @Urist

Not retaliated. Reevaluated

Sorry sometimes the dyslexia gets me.

d is for lysdexia

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:18 am But there’s no reason in my mind that you and Alison wouldn’t both independently be anti-town and, not knowing me, perceive me as a mark.

I haven’t really retaliated you in a while. Do you think there’s a good reason I should townread you @Urist

I tried to switch wagons from cape to sabi at eod1
I've been townread by the scum NKs
I haven't been trying too hard to influence the state of the game

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:20 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:18 am But there’s no reason in my mind that you and Alison wouldn’t both independently be anti-town and, not knowing me, perceive me as a mark.

I haven’t really retaliated you in a while. Do you think there’s a good reason I should townread you @Urist

Not retaliated. Reevaluated

Sorry sometimes the dyslexia gets me.

Yeah dailysex is tough sorry to hear that

Oh the missing n2 mafiakill is concerning as well, mac might be right about Sig LOL

now that I am town read, its time for me to start pulling apart the town core to get you all deep, great work gu

oh, oops, I posted that in the wrong chat

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:30 am Oh the missing n2 mafiakill is concerning as well, mac might be right about Sig LOL

Nutella… you think there’s more missing?

Disregard, please and thank you

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:32 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:30 am Oh the missing n2 mafiakill is concerning as well, mac might be right about Sig LOL

Nutella… you think there’s more missing?

Yeah there were three mafia kills on n1, then we killed seanzie so there should be two kills on n2 right?

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:55 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:54 amGet me out

I dont even get to miss work I just have to suffer so to make up for this imbalance in the world, you may obtain my illness and miss work

Hooray

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:04 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:14 am My attempts to be a better person fail again.

Neon you wanna make out? not with me of course. But this cardboard cutout of Liam Chris Henry Hemsworth-Neeson-Cavil The 3rd

Sure

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:05 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:04 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:14 am My attempts to be a better person fail again.

Neon you wanna make out? not with me of course. But this cardboard cutout of Liam Chris Henry Hemsworth-Neeson-Cavil The 3rd

Or me

I like this one better

Things from my chat with Alison that I don’t think are present in the thread (a chunk of it is stuff that’s in the thread)

1) I asked her to explain why people were TRing Urist and she deferred on the basis that she can’t read Urist well as any alignment and I shouldn’t trust her TR.

2) she was theorising that ‘mafia should have more kills given a game of this size’. Lol at that now they might have been outed as having three. There’s a lol moment in here where I told her that I suspected thr Seanzie illario kill could be sus in part because it landed without any real fuss. Guess that didn’t last lol.

3) Mac has a PoE of 6. Alison talks about the fact that she’s trusting mac on taking Sean out, but she doesn’t really see it. She is happy for the other 5 in the PoE to die. It turns out the 5 are 6… 112, svs, hk, mr, dizzy, marmot. I’m not sure how dizzy gets in there, we’re they actually part of the PoE discussion?

4) Alison town-defends sig, out of the blue without my prompting

5) upon learning the name of my role, Alison thought that it makes could be alignment-indicative then maybe that’s indicating soup mafia do have a soup role.

6) we have multiple combos about guillo amd creature in which Alison is a stringent defender of both.

7) Alison actively steered me away from neighbouring scotty

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:26 am i could see me being a wolf but do u think im with alison/sabi? @MacDougall

eh just show me how you aren't

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:44 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:43 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:38 pm I’m more and more thinking the following is true

Mac is a mafia member who was hard bussing Sean (he’s done this before)

His team either faked his role or he’s mafia with the same type of kill role.

He’s now trying to get attention off the mafia team.

No. Wolf Mac isn’t making those notes above.

Maybe he’s on the third party team?

Or maybe he’s town and he should stop being paranoid about me

I think it's the second. She snowed him so good (and not just him, lots of people came out of the woodwork last night to say, "Oh I knew she was bad". So like, where were the votes/cases etc?)

I leaned town on her becasue of the way she interacted with OG players like Kate and Golden on Day One, it reminded me of her interactions with Roxy in Cartomancy. I'm sure other people did as well. If I had a shot I wouldn't have shot her, tbh.

Sometimes you love your own theories so much, it's hard to let them go.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:37 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:32 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:30 am Oh the missing n2 mafiakill is concerning as well, mac might be right about Sig LOL

Nutella… you think there’s more missing?

Yeah there were three mafia kills on n1, then we killed seanzie so there should be two kills on n2 right?

Yeah, there’s a legit something up with that. Gosh, maybe sig IS the answer.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:16 am Currently we have two players voting for Rondo, either one of them is a wolf, or Rondo is a wolf. Rondo is not a wolf. Dyslexicon is not mafia with Alison based on interactions (happy to pull for you if need be). Party Crasher went ape shit to try to save Seanzie.

Party Crasher is my fifth.

I voted marmot for a bit then went back to seanzie

Why is derailing the seanzie wagon for a bit a wolf play considering alison (a wolf) parked there all day?