Bike [END]

[Hally]

It is ridiculous to accuse me of not making myself obvious to read.

Consider this: Reason I've been focusing on you is that you are active, you are a good player, and you've come across pretty different than what I'm used to, which has been kind of jarring to me. Even if you think you're the most obvious town ever playing a game, it may not be as easy for others. Remember me in the space laser game lololololol

You also don't have a correct read on me, and I'm also not making myself obtuse imo. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So here we are.

dizzy, please. i read the game tutuu wolfed in. her tone was the same as it always is. tutuu can fake tone as mafia in her sleep. i really don’t think this is a thing you or anyone else should be hung up on

[juliets]

I'm going back on Made. Call it a gut read. It's kind of the light tone that seems a bit put on coupled with being late to the game. It reminds me of Radish that one time he was scum forever ago. And me and Radish is the same person, and me and Made might be as well.

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

But also, talk to me @Made And talk to Tutu, cause Tutu wants to talk to you.

I can assure you I am neither dyslexicon nor mafia. I would even go far enough to say I was MADE to be town
(i've surprisingly never MADE ( ) that pun before) anywhoozies, hi friend. hru?

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

You purple piano punster!!!!!!

Marmot, did you vote for Made because of his pun? I feel like there must be a deeper reason and I would appreciate you sharing it -

Btw jules, satisfy my curiosity, I believe that you have recently started ending your sentences with "-" instead of "." because it makes them sound more open-ended, and more friendly, cuz sometimes ending sentences with a "." sounds abrupt and rude. Am I right in my read?

I use dashes a good bit but haven't analyzed when I use them and why. It's just a habit. I don't think a . here would have looked abrupt and rude.

[tutuu]

Yea it wouldn't have, I was curious if it was conscious.

[TonyStarkPrime]

up to page four: tutuu town, guill town if radishes is wolf, marmot seems alright, sean probably fine too, tony sus but my read on him is not the best

so far i’ve got

town:
dizzy
tutuu
epi

town lean:
marmot
sean
guill

wolf:
tony
radishes

I'm happy to see your dizzy read since there is nothing about him so far that strikes me as mafia and I had already set him aside as someone not to vote today.

town

[Hally]

I don't even think I can do a rainbow.

I feel quite well about LC.
LC seems to care and be curious, and I don't think he displays this as well as scum.
I'm pretty ok with Sean and also Tutu, despite popular belief.
Sean also seems to be honestly looking for scum. I find nothing wrong with his posts.
Tutu's impatience is mostly what reads town on her. Kind of refusing to be questioned, is more of a town attitude. Also Nanook said she was town.

I also have been ok with Nanook, mostly because I feel like he wants to town clear people and wants people to be town. Could be buddying, I guess. But I feel he's more interested in finding problems than solutions as scum and vice versa.

Nobody else really feels like I have enough to town read them. Guillo doesn't feel very forthcoming, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's town, I'll say that much.

Kind of too few town reads. But this is where I'm at. No real scum reads.

i agree with these

[tutuu]

Hally my knight in shining armor. Life is good.

[Hally]

I'm not really meaning to focus a lot on Tutu. I'm not interested in yeeting her this day at all. There's a very good chance she's town, and in that case it's also very good that she's actively involved and solving, and I trust her skills with that.

@Epignosis, you've been poking around a lot. Do you have any direction or any gains from that? Would like to know where you're at.

Feels like kind of a flat game tbh.

I have not been poking around a lot, I'm sorry to say. At least not as much as I would prefer.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Woo! It sucks that me and Tutuu got outed so quickly. This is going to be a boring game...

In my experience, people who say things like this are either guilty or Marmot (or both).

OoO, fun!

What's fun about it?

Your vote! The pressure! This game wouldn't be half as fun if there wasn't some stakes in the fact that you can be misyeeted. Also, now I need to figure out if your scum read on me is coming from a town perspective or a scum perspective, which is a fun puzzle to solve!

Aside from my content directed at your accusation of me and Tutuu, what do you think of my content?

Do you have any town reads? (sorry if you have already said, but I cannot remember any of them)

I still think you and Tutuu are teammates, that's what I think of your content.

you’re weirdly hung up on this. i would put the odds at exactly zero percent that tutuu and sean are w/w based both on my individual town reads on them and both of their reactions to your accusation

[TonyStarkPrime]

The tonal shift is the /only/ thing about it that’s town. Tutuu’s posts are probably rand wolf from a player of her caliber but just the sun of it is undeniable

Linki: jesus don’t everyone change the subject all at once
Marmot I’m town which means I don’t care which means please carry me

Um. The tonal shift is what made me suspect or rather just thrown off in the first place. What do you mean that her posts are rand wolf from a player of her caliber? Why is tonal shift town?

It’s intentional, wolves don’t do that. The posts are rand wolf because I think a lot of them are scummy but that doesn’t matter because tutuu is town and thus all her posts are town

Wolves aren't intentional? that's a weird take

wolves very rarely intentionally do wolfy things :P

And this interaction, it was your first post at the time you allocated for you to be in the thread and it was towards Made.

Sorry if I'm wrong Tony but I'm full on tunneling you here.

ok fine

There’s also a bit of a problem in the “TSP is scum reading the same people as me and once he scumread his wolf partners so he’s probably a wolf” but we’ll leave that aside

[Hally]

tutuu, why is Seanzie a civilian?

why is he not? do yo even have a read on his posts independent of your w/w read with tutuu?

i don’t get this fixation you have with this but it’s probably villagery?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'm going back on Made. Call it a gut read. It's kind of the light tone that seems a bit put on coupled with being late to the game. It reminds me of Radish that one time he was scum forever ago. And me and Radish is the same person, and me and Made might be as well.

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

But also, talk to me @Made And talk to Tutu, cause Tutu wants to talk to you.

I can assure you I am neither dyslexicon nor mafia. I would even go far enough to say I was MADE to be town
(i've surprisingly never MADE ( ) that pun before) anywhoozies, hi friend. hru?

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

You purple piano punster!!!!!!

Marmot, did you vote for Made because of his pun? I feel like there must be a deeper reason and I would appreciate you sharing it -

Btw jules, satisfy my curiosity, I believe that you have recently started ending your sentences with "-" instead of "." because it makes them sound more open-ended, and more friendly, cuz sometimes ending sentences with a "." sounds abrupt and rude. Am I right in my read?

Clearly her full stop stopped working

[juliets]

I'm starting the day by setting aside (i.e, not considering) these people for a vote today:

tutuu
Nanook
Epi
Dizzy

I don't see that thing we can't talk about as a mafia move by tutuu and it sounds like she's been just as aggressive in other games I have not played.

Nanook is saying tutuu is town and to trust him. I'm leaning toward believing him. It could be TMI but Nook's tone makes me think not.

Epi and Dizzy are great players as town and mafia. I haven't seen anything that makes me think they are mafia yet and they are too good of town players to eliminate this early without evidence that they are bad.

I'll be starting in on some more ISOs after breakfast.

Why set aside Nanook?

He looks like he is working down to a POE by finding reasons to town read people. I've seen that in his town behavior before. The people I'm setting aside are just for Day 1 and just if nothing wild happens today to cause me to wolf read them.

[Hally]

The reason why I have you in orange is because you've been tunneling a town the whole day phase. No other reason. I'm not misrepresenting your tone or any other stuff regarding the way you choose to play the game, unlike you are doing to me.

Tutu, I literally don't have one single scum read. I'm not tunnelling anyone. If I'm tunnelling someone, I will give you a written notice, you can be sure of it. Me in champs finals on Phighter. That was me tunnelling. I'm trying to figure out your alignment because I'm used to instantly think you're town, and in this game I didn't have that feeling.

Who is the "town" in question Tutu? how do you know the player is town? Did you get a N0 check or something?

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

bruh

[Hally]

my PoE is MR, TSP, juliets and Made.

i dig it

[Hally]

though i really have no issues with jules. she’s just null but i’m not caught up

[tutuu]

Yep, same.

[juliets]

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine tutuu should be able to tell me why

I can't.

Huh. That's not the greatest look.

LC, I don't understand what is going on here. I think you said at some point it's a joke but could you be more explicit? Or maybe you have been and I've just missed it.

[Hally]

It’s intentional, wolves don’t do that. The posts are rand wolf because I think a lot of them are scummy but that doesn’t matter because tutuu is town and thus all her posts are town

Wolves aren't intentional? that's a weird take

wolves very rarely intentionally do wolfy things :P

Brass tacks, what you're saying is that you think tutuu's wolf game is skilled enough that she couldn't unintentionally have a shift when confronted with unexpected instant suspicion?

yes.

Wrong, but I am still town. And it's a lie that I shifted it as a result of the suspicion.

ehhhh, it's hard to say conclusively from our pov that it's a lie

and hmm

it’s really not. it’s readily observable in the thread that tutuu started posting in this new tone from the very beginning, which was before she was scum read by anyone

this feels like gaslighting

[Hally]

also tony, why are you bolstering the suspicion on tutuu when you town read her?

[tutuu]

God I'm loving Hally's catch up. I'm just reading along and I wanna yell "YESSSS. YES. YES. I AM NOT CRAZY. I AM NOT INSANE. I WAS ACTUALLY JUSTIFIED TO DO AND SAY EVERYTHING I DID AND SAID."

[Hally]

It’s intentional, wolves don’t do that. The posts are rand wolf because I think a lot of them are scummy but that doesn’t matter because tutuu is town and thus all her posts are town

Wolves aren't intentional? that's a weird take

wolves very rarely intentionally do wolfy things :P

Brass tacks, what you're saying is that you think tutuu's wolf game is skilled enough that she couldn't unintentionally have a shift when confronted with unexpected instant suspicion?

yes.

She's only had one wolf game here and you didn't play it. Where did you pick up that particular opinion?

I sat in bed and thought about it and just determined it was entirely implausible. It's not just the shift, that can be premeditated or spontaneous. It's the aggression that accompanies the shift. I just can't see it from Tutuu, or really any player who doesn't have an established town meta of aggression.

do you have any reads besides tutuu town? i feel like almost all of your content has been about that one read

[Hally]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

you should go back here

[TonyStarkPrime]

Wolves aren't intentional? that's a weird take

wolves very rarely intentionally do wolfy things :P

Brass tacks, what you're saying is that you think tutuu's wolf game is skilled enough that she couldn't unintentionally have a shift when confronted with unexpected instant suspicion?

yes.

She's only had one wolf game here and you didn't play it. Where did you pick up that particular opinion?

I sat in bed and thought about it and just determined it was entirely implausible. It's not just the shift, that can be premeditated or spontaneous. It's the aggression that accompanies the shift. I just can't see it from Tutuu, or really any player who doesn't have an established town meta of aggression.

do you have any reads besides tutuu town? i feel like almost all of your content has been about that one read

epi town, lc town, jules town, nanook less town than people think, the m's not town but marmot is light green probably and guilty by association

[TonyStarkPrime]

I also sorta think sean town for reasons I don't remember

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

[TonyStarkPrime]

why are the iso links backwards

[tutuu]

why are the iso links backwards

There seem to be two types of ISOs - ones where they use user ID (individual for everyone) - I have no idea how to make those, those are backwards. The ones I use simply use thread ID and user name and those show them chronologically.

[Hally]

ok I read through tutuu's ISO and have a question about the votes for her - is the main reason for the votes that she has tonally shifted in this game from her tone in other games and on discord? Someone, I can't remember who, said that it doesn't really make good sense to open your role card, see you've drawn mafia and made a decision to shift your tone in this game. I tend to agree with that. I haven't ISO'd her voters so maybe I'll find some additional reasons there but feel free to talk to me here about the additional evidence.

Also, I'm not going to do many ISO's tonight because I process much better in the morning and I want to watch the Cleveland v. Pittsburg game. For those who don't know me, I tend to play early in the day and not as much as night.

So I iso'd Tutuu and half way through I caught myself reading all of her post in the voice of Mojo jojo.

Spoiler: show

In of itself that's not alignment indicative, but like in combo with her 180 tone shift from Shadows it's sus

2 mafia down, looking for the last one now.

Can we talk about these two posts? Why did Made and juliets both chime in after long absences and iso tutuu??

Juliets just joined the game tonight how long could her absence have been

All of eternity perhaps.


I guess what I mean is that they both were quite behind on the thread, but they each iso'd tutuu in the process of their catch up. It's a coincidence that I just now recalled.

wasn’t tutuu like a main topic of conversation though? it doesn’t seem weird to me to iso someone a lot of people are talking about and suspecting

why do you find this notable/what does it mean iyo?

[Long Con]

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine tutuu should be able to tell me why

I can't.

Huh. That's not the greatest look.

LC, I don't understand what is going on here. I think you said at some point it's a joke but could you be more explicit? Or maybe you have been and I've just missed it.

Hey, Jules. Ok I can clarify a bit, I was a little put out that tutuu said I was scum because I mentioned to Tony that she hadn't been back in the thread yet, so when Dizzy said the exact same thing, I was like "oh ok tutuu, I guess you should be scumreading her". I put it out there, and when I came back I realized I was just being a little bitch about it, and I pulled out entirely. It was just a lame post that I regretted making.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Wolves aren't intentional? that's a weird take

wolves very rarely intentionally do wolfy things :P

Brass tacks, what you're saying is that you think tutuu's wolf game is skilled enough that she couldn't unintentionally have a shift when confronted with unexpected instant suspicion?

yes.

Wrong, but I am still town. And it's a lie that I shifted it as a result of the suspicion.

ehhhh, it's hard to say conclusively from our pov that it's a lie

and hmm

it’s really not. it’s readily observable in the thread that tutuu started posting in this new tone from the very beginning, which was before she was scum read by anyone

this feels like gaslighting

literally read the first/fourth page of Tutuu's iso (the first 16 posts or so) and then read some middle page and tell me that they're tonally similar. they aren't. also we stopped


Tutuu's tonal shift, good band name?

[Master Radishes]

Lmao I look forward to fulfilling my destiny as the Syndicate's designated D1.

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

[tutuu]

Lmao I look forward to fulfilling my destiny as the Syndicate's designated D1.

You are clearly busy but the little time you have available you spend making jokes / sass. You appear to be reading the thread to some degree - do you not have any reads?

[juliets]

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine tutuu should be able to tell me why

I can't.

Huh. That's not the greatest look.

LC, I don't understand what is going on here. I think you said at some point it's a joke but could you be more explicit? Or maybe you have been and I've just missed it.

Hey, Jules. Ok I can clarify a bit, I was a little put out that tutuu said I was scum because I mentioned to Tony that she hadn't been back in the thread yet, so when Dizzy said the exact same thing, I was like "oh ok tutuu, I guess you should be scumreading her". I put it out there, and when I came back I realized I was just being a little bitch about it, and I pulled out entirely. It was just a lame post that I regretted making.

Ok, so you voted Dizzy because he said the same thing as you did and you were called scummy and you thought tutuu would understand it because of that. Glad that you pulled off of that - I appreciate your explanation.

[Hally]

Ok Epignosis, talk radish to me.

I have no reason to believe MR is a civilian.

(Just wrote "MR" and thought "Mister Rearranger" Blast from the past)

Radishes' time in the thread has been devoid of usefulness. Not one suspect. I have no means of determining if he is good or bad. Yet he's been here. With 24 posts I should have some sense that you care enough to find mafia. I have none. The field of radishes is barren. Perhaps it is in dire need of fertilization.

[Master Radishes]

Lmao I look forward to fulfilling my destiny as the Syndicate's designated D1.

You are clearly busy but the little time you have available you spend making jokes / sass. You appear to be reading the thread to some degree - do you not have any reads?

Oh look it's the same thing everyone always says about me.

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine tutuu should be able to tell me why

I can't.

Huh. That's not the greatest look.

LC, I don't understand what is going on here. I think you said at some point it's a joke but could you be more explicit? Or maybe you have been and I've just missed it.

Hey, Jules. Ok I can clarify a bit, I was a little put out that tutuu said I was scum because I mentioned to Tony that she hadn't been back in the thread yet, so when Dizzy said the exact same thing, I was like "oh ok tutuu, I guess you should be scumreading her". I put it out there, and when I came back I realized I was just being a little bitch about it, and I pulled out entirely. It was just a lame post that I regretted making.

Ok, so you voted Dizzy because he said the same thing as you did and you were called scummy and you thought tutuu would understand it because of that. Glad that you pulled off of that - I appreciate your explanation.

It was a fine joke and expression of genuine town LC by the looks of it, I just legit didn't read/remember Dizzy's post. I don't think the post was lame @Long Con, as I probably make posts like that myself sometimes.

[tutuu]

Lmao I look forward to fulfilling my destiny as the Syndicate's designated D1.

You are clearly busy but the little time you have available you spend making jokes / sass. You appear to be reading the thread to some degree - do you not have any reads?

Oh look it's the same thing everyone always says about me.

Lol

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

[Hally]

With risk of tunneling and apologies to TSP in advance if I'm wrong, the posts he's making remind me of the scum game he played in that Russian something something game where he kept distancing and scumreading and interacting with his partners. (His posts towards Made and MR here)

need to refresh my memory on this but yeah

[TonyStarkPrime]

With risk of tunneling and apologies to TSP in advance if I'm wrong, the posts he's making remind me of the scum game he played in that Russian something something game where he kept distancing and scumreading and interacting with his partners. (His posts towards Made and MR here)

need to refresh my memory on this but yeah

No!

[Hally]

yea made and julie are >rand scum imo

what makes you think this?

I townread other people who are not Made and juliets.

Ok. I am town though and ask that you try and find me as town.

I'm not complacent towards my scumreads, the attempt to convince myself I'm wrong is always there.

Ok thanks for your reply.

Welcome @Hally!

hi hi hi

[TonyStarkPrime]

epi and lc haven't gotten into a fight yet and are thus aligned and probably t/t

ftfy

[Hally]

but the second pocket attempt is gutsy, i’ll give ya that

Hally, second after the tutuu pocket attempt? I just want to be sure I'm understanding what you're saying.

second after dizzy. but he said his town read on guillo was a joke, so i’m over it

[Hally]

LOL

[juliets]

but the second pocket attempt is gutsy, i’ll give ya that

Hally, second after the tutuu pocket attempt? I just want to be sure I'm understanding what you're saying.

second after dizzy. but he said his town read on guillo was a joke, so i’m over it

Ok got it.

I'm taking a break for a bit to work out.

[tutuu]

Spoiler: show

epi and lc haven't gotten into a fight yet and are thus aligned and probably t/t

ftfy

Wow, how do you know Hally is a wolf. Must be TMI.

[Long Con]

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine tutuu should be able to tell me why

I can't.

Huh. That's not the greatest look.

LC, I don't understand what is going on here. I think you said at some point it's a joke but could you be more explicit? Or maybe you have been and I've just missed it.

Hey, Jules. Ok I can clarify a bit, I was a little put out that tutuu said I was scum because I mentioned to Tony that she hadn't been back in the thread yet, so when Dizzy said the exact same thing, I was like "oh ok tutuu, I guess you should be scumreading her". I put it out there, and when I came back I realized I was just being a little bitch about it, and I pulled out entirely. It was just a lame post that I regretted making.

Ok, so you voted Dizzy because he said the same thing as you did and you were called scummy and you thought tutuu would understand it because of that. Glad that you pulled off of that - I appreciate your explanation.

It was a fine joke and expression of genuine town LC by the looks of it, I just legit didn't read/remember Dizzy's post. I don't think the post was lame @Long Con, as I probably make posts like that myself sometimes.

No, it was just too petty... plus, you weren't so one-dimensional in your read, it was also based on my lack of responses to ongoing thread discussion at the time, and Dizzy just wasn't in the same place when he made the same comment. I'm going to switch over to Radishes right now, this tutuu vote is going nowhere, and I'm not feeling it so much anymore anyway. [VOTE: Radical Radish] aubergine

[tutuu]

but the second pocket attempt is gutsy, i’ll give ya that

Hally, second after the tutuu pocket attempt? I just want to be sure I'm understanding what you're saying.

second after dizzy. but he said his town read on guillo was a joke, so i’m over it

Ok got it.

I'm taking a break for a bit to work out.

Now you're ready to WORK THOSE BUNS.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Spoiler: show

epi and lc haven't gotten into a fight yet and are thus aligned and probably t/t

ftfy

Wow, how do you know Hally is a wolf. Must be TMI.

updated to include this situation:

[Hally]

up to page four: tutuu town, guill town if radishes is wolf, marmot seems alright, sean probably fine too, tony sus but my read on him is not the best

so far i’ve got

town:
dizzy
tutuu
epi

town lean:
marmot
sean
guill

wolf:
tony
radishes

I'm happy to see your dizzy read since there is nothing about him so far that strikes me as mafia and I had already set him aside as someone not to vote today.

town

why?

[Hally]

The tonal shift is the /only/ thing about it that’s town. Tutuu’s posts are probably rand wolf from a player of her caliber but just the sun of it is undeniable

Linki: jesus don’t everyone change the subject all at once
Marmot I’m town which means I don’t care which means please carry me

Um. The tonal shift is what made me suspect or rather just thrown off in the first place. What do you mean that her posts are rand wolf from a player of her caliber? Why is tonal shift town?

It’s intentional, wolves don’t do that. The posts are rand wolf because I think a lot of them are scummy but that doesn’t matter because tutuu is town and thus all her posts are town

Wolves aren't intentional? that's a weird take

wolves very rarely intentionally do wolfy things :P

And this interaction, it was your first post at the time you allocated for you to be in the thread and it was towards Made.

Sorry if I'm wrong Tony but I'm full on tunneling you here.

ok fine

There’s also a bit of a problem in the “TSP is scum reading the same people as me and once he scumread his wolf partners so he’s probably a wolf” but we’ll leave that aside

can you explain why you scum read them? i don’t think you have yet