Inception [END]

[juliets]

Mafia: iaafr, MacDougall, TrustworthyLiberal

Epi, why TLib?

[Epignosis]

One of mine just died. My "teammate."

[Epignosis]

Mafia: iaafr, MacDougall, TrustworthyLiberal

Epi, why TLib?

I'll revise this later after I've had the chance to go through her posts.

That vote post yesterday in which TL goes and links Dom and me for defending each other is crap. Pin me or Dom to a dead mafia member if you're going to do that- not another living person. And she didn't even vote for me (I had one vote, but Dom had none). It's careless thinking at best. Mafia play at worst.

[Epignosis]

The worst thing civilians can do is ignore the dead mafia. That's exactly what happened yesterday. Stop ignoring the dead mafia. Find their teammates.

[Epignosis]

Can anybody name the positive contributions iaafr has made to the state of this game that would warrant his survival over Hyenas?

[MacDougall]

Epi needs to be lynched

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

You are very transparent.

[Epignosis]

Epi needs to be lynched

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

You are very transparent.

You are very bad.

[MacDougall]

The worst thing civilians can do is ignore the dead mafia. That's exactly what happened yesterday. Stop ignoring the dead mafia. Find their teammates.

I specifically did this. You are the most compatible person with Elephant and Evenstar that is alive. You have promised to case me for several days and haven't done it yet. Maybe you have and can't fake a case on me eh?

[Epignosis]

Can anybody name the positive contributions MacDougall has made to the state of this game that would warrant his survival over anybody else's?

[MacDougall]

I have zero interest in talking to you. I have had you pegged since day fucking 1. Talking to you is pointless. If anyone has a town read on Epi explain why or vote there.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

[MacDougall]

If Epignosis is not teammates with Elephant and Epi I will retire from Mafia. It's the most obvious shit ever. He's basically just been powerwolfing and shouting down the thread to ensure people don't vote him. Stop being bitches and lynch the fucking wolf.

[MacDougall]

I am away for a bday weekend just fyi. Don't expect me to be the huckleberry.

[Epignosis]

If Epignosis is not teammates with Elephant and Epi I will retire from Mafia. It's the most obvious shit ever. He's basically just been powerwolfing and shouting down the thread to ensure people don't vote him. Stop being bitches and lynch the fucking wolf.

Enjoy that gold watch.

[Epignosis]

Voted me Day 1 when Dragomir got lynched = pegged since Day fucking 1.

Day 5? Didn't vote me. Didn't vote Elephant. Voted Hyena.

Day 6? Didn't vote me. Didn't vote mafia. Voted Hyena.

Yeah, Mac really had my number.

Lynch this git.

[Epignosis]

Here's MacDougall's posts mentioning Hyena.

I challenge you to find where MacDougall voiced suspicion of Hyena.

Yet MacDougall voted Hyena (sparing Elephant).

And MacDougall voted Hyena (sparing iaafr).

[Epignosis]

Mac you done fucked up leaving me alive.

[Epignosis]

Aight wait up. I can solve this.

So far Radishes and Hyena are giving me the town vibes. You can be my town core.

Hyena what's your analysis?

Day 5 people. The Day Elephant got lynched.

[Epignosis]

tbqh i'm resigned to the stomp if this thread can't see scum as obvious as you, hyena and nutella

and yeah, I agree I do need resolved

dunno why you want me resolved before radishes and why you blew 'stop taking credit four times for the same post' into a serious lynch attempt, though

seriously, you will fucking know it if and when I decide you actually need to be lynched

That was tongue in cheek.

Nobody needs to be "resolved." That's lazy-talk.

My frustration with you is that you exuded a civilian confidence and then you went and lost your mind about me over the most inane reasons. I can't support you for that any longer.

if you feel I'm a drag on the gamestate, then yeah, lynch me. but I'm not going to just jump and do whatever the fuck you think is the most important thing right now on your say-so. I'm not your dog, I have my own brain, and I am tired as hell after slogging my way through that F3. Go bother someone else.

You have your own brain. True. I implore you to use it.

I am. It's telling me you're scum. Have you perhaps considered that there might be something in your play you could correct that would make it stop doing that?

Don't need anything in my play. The Syndicate people will tell you I'm a civilian. Get used to it hon. This is my civilian bod. It's sexy.

You do have that arrogant hubris I've come to associate with civ Epi.

Pegged since Day fucking 1 ladies and gentlemen. Pegged.

[MacDougall]

Voted me Day 1 when Dragomir got lynched = pegged since Day fucking 1.

Day 5? Didn't vote me. Didn't vote Elephant. Voted Hyena.

Day 6? Didn't vote me. Didn't vote mafia. Voted Hyena.

Yeah, Mac really had my number.

Lynch this git.

I changed my vote FROM you to Hyena when there was no wagon steam on you. Try again.

[MacDougall]

Mac you done fucked up leaving me alive.

If you're town you're having all time shocker. I give you more credit than that.

[Epignosis]

Then about an hour before Elephant got lynched, the alarms went off!

can we cfd hyena lol

I kinda wanna

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine

We lynchen hyena now get on our level

JACK VOTE FOR HYENA

Hyena vs. Elephant. I like it.

oh shi... o:

Sup man?

You never bantered with me. >:[

This is kinda banter

True. I really do think Elephant is town. Between Nutella and Elephant, I'd always lynch Nutella. TLib is probably the Vig considering how much he's talked about how the Vig might not be able to shoot anymore.

More plz

"Please tell me more why Elephant isn't bad. Get these other people to stop voting for him."

Thr Hyena wagon is sputtering. Probs means it's a good one.

Yeah, because when nobody talks about one it's a sure sign it's a civilian one.

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine

I'm done for the day. Adios.

I think Elephant and Hyena completely bollocksed that EOD and outed themselves btw.

No, Mac. You bollocksed and outed yourself.

But you aren't finished:

Iaafr and Hyena are both giving me town vibes.

And when asked a question...

Iaafr and Hyena are both giving me town vibes.

Explain how Iaafr is town. Is it because he decided he’s going to sheep you on everything instead of playing?

If everyone did that we'd probs win tbh.

...you didn't answer.

[Epignosis]

Voted me Day 1 when Dragomir got lynched = pegged since Day fucking 1.

Day 5? Didn't vote me. Didn't vote Elephant. Voted Hyena.

Day 6? Didn't vote me. Didn't vote mafia. Voted Hyena.

Yeah, Mac really had my number.

Lynch this git.

I changed my vote FROM you to Hyena when there was no wagon steam on you. Try again.

Okay. See above.

[Epignosis]

juliets, talk to me about MacDougall, if you would. You have very few mentions of him relatively speaking and most of them are from your vote chronologies.

[Jackofhearts2005]

hi can we not mislynch me now that last phase happened? its probably a bad idea

i feel like epignosis and pawn are just obvious scum and it makes sense that theyre a team together so im just gonna vote pawn, the scum who LITERALLY EVERYBODY SEEMS TO AGREE ON but for some people dont want to vote before me

i really

like

yeah idk

[VOTE: pawn lelouch] aubergine

pawn being wrong on hyena is like last strike dudes obvscum

its not just about being wrong but about being confidently wrong and showing no apparent drive to refine reads

the way in which pawn is disengaged and demotivated is scumsided rather than townsided

if you want to see town demotivation read my iso

also DONT VOTE ME BEFORE READING MY ISO THIS PHASE

Pawn is probably spewed town by the Michelle kill and janitor.

That has kept me from voting him too but the caveat is she named three town - Pawn, Quin and I think Dom. I don't think she could have checked all of them. We pretty much know she checked Elephant, she was reading Dom as scum but turned around on him so she probably checked him, and she said Quin was a strong town read so I think she might have checked him. That would have been 6 points which is what Eva had. Could she have had 8 and checked someone every night? I guess maybe but I'm doubtful. That would be a pretty powerful role.

[Epignosis]

Jack, please talk to me about MacDougall if you would, as you haven't done so much relatively speaking.

[Epignosis]

Quin, please talk to me about anything.

[MacDougall]

Epi's ISO pretty much spews him teammates with Elephant tbh. It's damning shit.

Elephant - Elephant called my willingness to be lynched "reverse psychology." Anybody who knows me right now knows there is nothing reverse about working as much as I do. Elephant does not know me whatsoever, and I cannot judge Elephant for that. What I can do is judge Elephant for keeping his vote on me despite engaging with others. Would lynch, but not Day 1.

This is the first mention of Elephant. The "would lynch, but not day 1" is distancing 101. The commentary here is meaningless drivel designed to look like real play.

To answer Elephant's question: "why did you really select Hyena to be your first push?"

He was there at the same time I was. And to be clear, it wasn't a push. It was my first suspicion. It is now a suspicion that lingers in the back of my mind for now.

Goes out of his way to answer Elephant's question. Epi goes into detail to explain himself for Elephant. For the rest of us it's usually just insults or dismissal lol.

I have no interest in an Elephant lynch Day 1 or Day 2 (probably not Day 3 either).

Of course not.

I wonder if mafia had access to all the game threads. If that's the case, they could have seen the people here D2 having doubts about Evenstar and 112 and started pushing those two in preparation for when we all joined back up here.

Didn't you see Epignosis reading here?

I should rephrase that. One of us spotted Epignosis as viewing this thread D2. I don't remember who it was, it might have been Hyena. I don't remember what we concluded from it, but the "access" suggestion pinged this recollection.

The only time I was reading this thread after Day 1 was during Night 1. If I were reading this thread Day 2, what does that do to your opinion of me? Am I bad? Good? How does that information impact your view?

Elephant's prodding of Epi is always treated with respect and discipline, which is weird for Epi. Worth noting that Epi is a non busser type. Very much favours protecting teammates than burying them or engaging in distancing shenanigans.

Don't need anything in my play. The Syndicate people will tell you I'm a civilian. Get used to it hon. This is my civilian bod. It's sexy.

Who are "the syndicate people" who are still with us? Colin, Dom, Epignosis, Jack, Juliets, Long Con, Radishes, nutella, Quin, Sprityo? Anyone who knows, please confirm or correct this list!

This was tongue-in-cheek, a nod to some bizarre theory that gained currency in one of our sub-threads.

Just more distancing type shit that's null.

[VOTE: Elephant] aubergine

I'm with Michelle.

why though, her suspicion is largely based on things she has simply misunderstood from his posts. they have just been talking past each other and misinterpreting every point, it's the most frustrating exchange I've ever had to read. can you explain what you're seeing here because I think it's an unproductive town/town argument

I didn't even try to comprehend that mess.

Hijacking nutella's bad arguments towards Michelle's elephant sus. Empowering her bad read and defending Elephant at the same time. This is how scum defend teammates.

Looking at the poll, it doesn't look like there was ever a concerted effort to save Dragomir at all. If there was one, it was that sudden surge against me, not the votes on 112. If I'm correct about Evenstar, the only two unknowns (from my perspective, obviously) are Elephant and JackofHearts2005.

By trying to discredit the notion that there was an effort to save Dragomir, Epignosis is by proxy defending Elephant (and himself).

I feel like I've asked multiple people to talk to me about Elephant and I've been roundly ignored. Someone on this godforsaken dreamplane talk to me about the betrunked pachyderm.

I've put it on the backburner. Mea culpa.

I'll look into it later.

Nutella wants to talk about Elephant, Epignosis lolcats about it. Says he'll look into it later.

Dom, nutella:

Give Evenstar another Day. Find someone else. There isn't just two mafia members. And I don't think it's her right now. Revisit Day 6 if you must.

I think Evenstar is a dumb lynch.

Jack or Elephant?

Out of the two, I'd lynch Jack.

I still have to see about Elephant though.

Chooses Jack in a Jack vs. Elephant scenario. Vomit.

Elephant 4 [Long Con, iaafr, Michelle, Nutella]
JackofHearts2005 2 [Epignosis, Dom]
Long Con 2 [Macdougall, JackofHearts2005]
Nutella 2 [Lady Lambdadelta, Evenstar]
Evenstar 2 [112, Sprityo]
Epignosis 1 [Pawn Lelouch]
Hyena 1 [Master Radishes]
iaafr 1 [Quin]
Dom 1[Elephant]
Trustworthy Liberal 1 [Hyena]

3 Not Voting: Juliets, ColinisCool, Trustworthy Liberal

17 votes cast and the largest wagon is 4.

What an absolutely atrocious votal. We need to get our shit together.

(I guess it's better than "nova/jack is obvious scum, lol", but not by much.)

@Hyena
@Elephant
@Quin
@Master Radishes
@Pawn Lelouch

All of you, make your strongest case for why the person you are on right now deserves to be in contention. If you don't have a case you're willing to put time in to defend, vote someone else.

@juliets
@ColinIsCool
@Trustworthy Liberal

This may be the most important day phase in the entire game. We need your input. Put a damn vote down already.

Dom is an infolynch at this point. If he flips scum, Michelle is absolutely town, unless she refuses to commit -- and if she refuses, I need to re-evaluate her.
I have made a case on Radishes for the F3 lynch.
Lynching in my group is straight POE.

This is the worst post I've seen from Elephant.

The first thing he's actually said bad about Elephant. Very nothingburger though. And the followup renders any town peek he gains from it moot.

I looked back at my notes. I don't think I can vote for Elephant today.

Herp. Derp. Die.

@Everyone, Elephant wants me to screw the logic of my reads and this is a scum tactic.

let's lynch scum today, thanks for understanding

How does the post below factor into the idea that Elephant and Dragomir are teammates?

Ok @juliets since you're confused lemme clear up my suspicion against 112. So my belief of there being fake character claims came from this post. The roleplaying character thing pings me hard for reasons being that there's a manipulative edge to it. I only see one perspective to why someone would do this is the scum perspective. Role-play your character in order to make it more believable if you got to claim it. Get ppl in the mindset that your character is this person thus clouding them from looking too much into the actual claim.

There's no town perspective to it imo. Why should town bother themselves with roleplaying their character? All I can see it is for manipulative purposes to set something up in the future. Unless your role requires the role-play, which I don't think is the case for 112 here.

Thanks Drago I'll think through this while eating lunch.

So Drago, I guess where I'm left with this is I don't see any game related point in role-playing your character whether you are town, or scum, or 3P since the character doesn't tell us anything about the person's abilities or their role. JJJ suggested role-playing your character in the OP as just something fun to do.

For example, let's say 112 is role playing the character "loneliness" and she later claims she is "loneliness". What does that tell us exactly? Not her alignment, nor her abilities since there is no correlation. So it tells us nothing, the way I see it.

But no one else seems confused by this, just me, so I don't want to belabor the point. I'll think further on it as we go forward.

I've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?

Could you please roleplay your character? A paragraph should suffice.

More defending Elephant.

@Everyone, Elephant wants me to screw the logic of my reads and this is a scum tactic.

let's lynch scum today, thanks for understanding

How does the post below factor into the idea that Elephant and Dragomir are teammates?

So Drago, I guess where I'm left with this is I don't see any game related point in role-playing your character whether you are town, or scum, or 3P since the character doesn't tell us anything about the person's abilities or their role. JJJ suggested role-playing your character in the OP as just something fun to do.

For example, let's say 112 is role playing the character "loneliness" and she later claims she is "loneliness". What does that tell us exactly? Not her alignment, nor her abilities since there is no correlation. So it tells us nothing, the way I see it.

But no one else seems confused by this, just me, so I don't want to belabor the point. I'll think further on it as we go forward.

I've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?

Could you please roleplay your character? A paragraph should suffice.

How can you town read him for a meaningless post?
An invite to roleplay is nothing shading or distancing, I see there a normal convo I would never consider AI.

I don't agree that it's a meaningless post if you read the exchange fully. Elephant essentially shot down Dragomir's biggest angle when there would have been no reason to do so (unless you think someone would look back and give you credit for it like I'm doing, but I don't think that was Elephant's angle).

More defending Elephant.

Civilians

Dom - I would wager money Dom is a civilian.

Evenstar - For reasons.

Master Radishes - As I've alluded to, the Root and I had an exchange Day 2 that helped us better understand each other, and right now I find myself largely agreeing with his positions. I like what I see, though I don't have the same confidence I do with Dom.

juliets - I was concerned that I could not put juliets in this list as effortlessly as I have been able to in the past, but I reviewed my notes and the progression toward voting for Dragomir looks natural.

Michelle - Most of what I've seen from Michelle exudes a sense of genuineness that is difficult to fake for most. I wish Michelle (as with pretty much everyone) would examine suspects within the context of Day 1, since that is the most valuable Day the civilians have in the books, but I'm viewing Michelle as a civilian for now.

iaafr - I have no prior experience with iaafr, so take this with a grain of salt. However, iaafr posts with reckless abandon. If iaafr is mafia, then he doesn't give a toss about strategy or how his interactions with his teammates look. I mentioned something to this effect in another thread, but if I were on iaafr's team, I'd be pulling my hair out and maybe saying bad words in BTSC.

nutella - Anyone from here can tell you that nutella has been a perpetual blind spot for me for years. I feel that I'm turning a corner on that front. Alternatively, nutella always seems to have my number. I think the last couple of times I've been bad, she called it early and often. Maybe that's a fluke. Maybe it's a small sample size. I know she's correct about me again here, and I don't believe she's faking that. My conclusion from my prior analysis still holds: " I saw nutella as a civilian throughout Day 1, and I don’t see anything here that changes my mind."

Elephant - I concede it's a small point in his favor, but it exists and gives me a good impression of Elephant. Perhaps I'm misreading it, but oh well. Elephant wouldn't make my top five suspects today anyway.


People I need to Sort

ColinIsCool

Hyena

JackofHearts2005

Long Con

MacDougall

Quin

TurstworthyLiberal


Mafia

112 - In looking back, I still feel Dragomir and 112 were teammates softly pushing against each other. You can read those interactions in this spoiled post.

Pawn Lelouch - Pawn has done nothing productive today. He has his vote on me and is not engaging me. I don't know why he's voting for me unless it's still because of what is perhaps the worst reasoning I have ever witnessed.

LadyLambaDelta - Day 2, all LLD did was shit on my analyses. I replied, "There is no civilian reason to discredit my effort without attempting to engage with it in some capacity. If you believe I am mafia, then you should be able to show how the content of my effort is compatible with that hypothesis rather than merely claim that the effort itself is compatible with your hypothesis."

sprityo - sprityo makes the list because a lot of what he's doing looks like busy work. I don't understand the compilations of noteworthy posts he's making- I'm not seeing any value added. Is there any analysis or commentary to go with those?

Has Elephant (AND EVENSTAR) in his civ list. VOM-fucking-IT.

@Lady LambdaDelta
@juliets

What are both your opinions of Epi at this time?

Eva I think he is town. He says he doesn't have a meta but I find him more abrupt and less likely to explain why he sees things the way he does when he's scum.

He's been pretty abrupt and under-explainy IMO, and he's so catastrophically wrong about the game that I find it really hard to believe he's not scum if he's actually any good at this

Yeah okay.

So, generally, your D1 reads did quite well: two of your town calls flipped town, and onyl two of your "teammate compatible" assessments (who should probably be in the "to be sorted" pile rather than scum leans?) flipped town as well.

Last mention of Elephant is a nothingburger.

I'll add that Epignosis is too good of a player for this to be anything other than his scum game.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Every time Epi says I'm bad I'm gonna just spam this. I'm on holiday and shan't be doing more analysis. Someone ISO him with Eva for the extra kek.

[Epignosis]

Yes, someone please do that.

[ColinIsCool]

Mac and Epi fighting is just like the one time my parents got a divorce

[MacDougall]

Then about an hour before Elephant got lynched, the alarms went off!

can we cfd hyena lol

I kinda wanna

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine

We lynchen hyena now get on our level

JACK VOTE FOR HYENA

Hyena vs. Elephant. I like it.

oh shi... o:

Sup man?

You never bantered with me. >:[

This is kinda banter

True. I really do think Elephant is town. Between Nutella and Elephant, I'd always lynch Nutella. TLib is probably the Vig considering how much he's talked about how the Vig might not be able to shoot anymore.

More plz

"Please tell me more why Elephant isn't bad. Get these other people to stop voting for him."

Thr Hyena wagon is sputtering. Probs means it's a good one.

Yeah, because when nobody talks about one it's a sure sign it's a civilian one.

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine

I'm done for the day. Adios.

I think Elephant and Hyena completely bollocksed that EOD and outed themselves btw.

No, Mac. You bollocksed and outed yourself.

But you aren't finished:

Iaafr and Hyena are both giving me town vibes.

And when asked a question...

Iaafr and Hyena are both giving me town vibes.

Explain how Iaafr is town. Is it because he decided he’s going to sheep you on everything instead of playing?

If everyone did that we'd probs win tbh.

...you didn't answer.

Counterpoint. Being wrong isn't being Mafia. I didn't give a shit whether Elephant got lynched. Remind me what were you doing when Elephant was getting lynched?

Iaafr seemed town in his flailing madness. I made an observation. There wasn't anything more to it than gut. Jack's question was absurd. Do you really want me to answer it? I thought hyena was mafia. I was wrong. Try and convince people to lynch me I will be happy to spend my bday weekend shuffled loose. I feel like today will be YOUR day of reckoning though. We shall see. Good luck chum.

[Epignosis]

"I'll add that Epignosis is too good of a player for this to be anything other than his scum game."

A good player is one who excels as both a mafioso and a civilian.

This is demonstrably a horseshit perspective.

[MacDougall]

Someone tell me they are town reading Epi

[Epignosis]

Mac and Epi fighting is just like the one time my parents got a divorce

Pick a side, damn it.

[Epignosis]

Someone tell me they are town reading Epi

Dom was. Now he's dead.

[MacDougall]

"I'll add that Epignosis is too good of a player for this to be anything other than his scum game."

A good player is one who excels as both a mafioso and a civilian.

This is demonstrably a horseshit perspective.

Yeah but also your face

[Quin]

why is dom dead and not me?

[MacDougall]

Someone tell me they are town reading Epi

Dom was. Now he's dead.

Yeah funny that. The guy you just arbitrarily town locked to the point you'd never be able to lynch him dies.

[Epignosis]

Mac still refuses to talk about iaafr.

[Quin]

Quin, please talk to me about anything.

See above.

[MacDougall]

why is dom dead and not me?

Why not? Why should you have been killed over him?

[MacDougall]

Mac still refuses to talk about iaafr.

I literally did fucky

[Quin]

why is dom dead and not me?

Why not? Why should you have been killed over him?

I dunno. We both have townclears and Michelle has been much more vocal about mine than Dom's. So why Dom?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack, please talk to me about MacDougall if you would, as you haven't done so much relatively speaking.

You’re complaining that nobody is looking at interactions with flipped wolves.

Mac posted like 40 examples of your interactions with flipped wolves that look really bad.

Town Mac is as easy to find as town Nutella. This is town Mac.

That said, I think he’s also wrong Mac.

TL is also town, whichever of you was accusing him.

[Epignosis]

Someone tell me they are town reading Epi

Dom was. Now he's dead.

Yeah funny that. The guy you just arbitrarily town locked to the point you'd never be able to lynch him dies.

Mac, if I'm bad, you're dead.

Also, fill out my questionaire, would you kindly?

1. I stood by while allowing my godfather (arguably the most important mafia role when a cop is in play) to go down Day 1. Note that I voted 112 early and made no effort to drum up support for a 112 lynch, made no effort to get someone else lynched, and made no effort to get myself lynched in the godfather's stead.

Is this true? Why do you think so?

2. I went through everyone's interactions with Dragomir, only to have my teammate shit on them instead of using them to guide civilian lynches. Rather than use my contributions to guide civilians into making mistakes, Evenstar dismissed them and instead used that effort as the basis for her trying to get me lynched.

Is this true? Why do you think so?

3. Evenstar, who voted 112 instead of Dragomir and who voted Hyena instead of Elephant, was perfectly okay with lynching me and actively pushed for that to happen throughout the phase.

Is this true? Why do you think so?

4. I went out of my way Day 2 to make Dom upset.

Do you really fucking believe I did this?

[MacDougall]

why is dom dead and not me?

Why not? Why should you have been killed over him?

I dunno. We both have townclears and Michelle has been much more vocal about mine than Dom's. So why Dom?

I would have killed Dom. He gave shits.

[Epignosis]

Jack, please talk to me about MacDougall if you would, as you haven't done so much relatively speaking.

You’re complaining that nobody is looking at interactions with flipped wolves.

Mac posted like 40 examples of your interactions with flipped wolves that look really bad.

I can either care about that or not give a shit.

You decide which one it is.

That said, I think he’s also wrong Mac.

TL is also town, whichever of you was accusing him.

It was me, but I need to know why you think that. I need posts and explanations. Not opinions.

[MacDougall]

Jack, please talk to me about MacDougall if you would, as you haven't done so much relatively speaking.

You’re complaining that nobody is looking at interactions with flipped wolves.

Mac posted like 40 examples of your interactions with flipped wolves that look really bad.

Town Mac is as easy to find as town Nutella. This is town Mac.

That said, I think he’s also wrong Mac.

TL is also town, whichever of you was accusing him.

[MacDougall]

Someone tell me they are town reading Epi

Dom was. Now he's dead.

Yeah funny that. The guy you just arbitrarily town locked to the point you'd never be able to lynch him dies.

Mac, if I'm bad, you're dead.

Also, fill out my questionaire, would you kindly?

1. I stood by while allowing my godfather (arguably the most important mafia role when a cop is in play) to go down Day 1. Note that I voted 112 early and made no effort to drum up support for a 112 lynch, made no effort to get someone else lynched, and made no effort to get myself lynched in the godfather's stead.

Is this true? Why do you think so?

2. I went through everyone's interactions with Dragomir, only to have my teammate shit on them instead of using them to guide civilian lynches. Rather than use my contributions to guide civilians into making mistakes, Evenstar dismissed them and instead used that effort as the basis for her trying to get me lynched.

Is this true? Why do you think so?

3. Evenstar, who voted 112 instead of Dragomir and who voted Hyena instead of Elephant, was perfectly okay with lynching me and actively pushed for that to happen throughout the phase.

Is this true? Why do you think so?

4. I went out of my way Day 2 to make Dom upset.

Do you really fucking believe I did this?

The wine! It's in front of me!

[Epignosis]

Someone tell me they are town reading Epi

Dom was. Now he's dead.

Yeah funny that. The guy you just arbitrarily town locked to the point you'd never be able to lynch him dies.

Mac, if I'm bad, you're dead.

Also, fill out my questionaire, would you kindly?

1. I stood by while allowing my godfather (arguably the most important mafia role when a cop is in play) to go down Day 1. Note that I voted 112 early and made no effort to drum up support for a 112 lynch, made no effort to get someone else lynched, and made no effort to get myself lynched in the godfather's stead.

Is this true? Why do you think so?

2. I went through everyone's interactions with Dragomir, only to have my teammate shit on them instead of using them to guide civilian lynches. Rather than use my contributions to guide civilians into making mistakes, Evenstar dismissed them and instead used that effort as the basis for her trying to get me lynched.

Is this true? Why do you think so?

3. Evenstar, who voted 112 instead of Dragomir and who voted Hyena instead of Elephant, was perfectly okay with lynching me and actively pushed for that to happen throughout the phase.

Is this true? Why do you think so?

4. I went out of my way Day 2 to make Dom upset.

Do you really fucking believe I did this?

The wine! It's in front of me!

Yeah, didn't think you could.