The Syndicate

Oreki wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:42 am When is the Day 0 ending?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:12 am

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:13 pm Sup, I am very busy irl (moving this weekend) so my activity may be sparser than usual.

And hey my super cool major is in the poll

Death rays?

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:04 pm Morning all, I'm in bed surrounded by cats. So far today is good.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:36 pm timmer's last post before this one quoted below was over three hours prior:

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

That's 3:19pm EST.

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:20 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

It's only 4 pages to read...

That's 3:20pm EST.

Of all the things timmer could have commented on in that window, why that?

And then the punchline:

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:33 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:20 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

It's only 4 pages to read...

I expect more help from a "fellow civillian".

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:34 pm [VOTE: timmer] aubergine

This reeks of a teammate interaction to me.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:07 pm @Creature why are you voting TonyStarkPrime? yout vote gave me sheepy vibes
is there a reason why you wanna get a big wagon running? why so eager?

I voted TonyStarkPrime for reactions.

Big wagons cause more infospreading because it puts someone in spotlight, making that person squirm more while also making others need to justify their stances around said person.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:25 pm It doesn't need to be Tony if you can provide me an alternative person to put on check.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:13 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:57 am @Michelle tell us about yourself as a mafia player. Where do you come from, what’s your strategy? What are you looking for or looking at in this game right now? Does anyone or anything stand out?

I played one alias game with Michelle and I also believe she was in the Champs game with the representative from PerC, which I followed.

I would definitely recommend lynching Michelle at all costs.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:52 am Oh, and also didn't like Michelle's entry to the game that much.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:26 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 amYo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

Regarding this though =p

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:47 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:32 pm lol

Indeed. Care to explain your vote on Rej?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:05 pm Res plz! =p

Good luck, town!

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:46 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:41 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:47 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:32 pm lol

Indeed. Care to explain your vote on Rej?

it was the wagon that looked less bad. Also I almost didn't get a vote placed in time, so not much thought went into it.

What was the difference between it and the others?

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:02 pm Wow Epi I did make you work. Appreciate the insight though.

@Lunalee I would like to hear what you have to say about Epi's points.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:21 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:07 pm RIP dizzy, and guess I can't read sig for shit. I like owner's "cluster" theory and think Mac is town; would be willing to lynch epi for sure.

I don’t like this.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:16 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:04 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:43 pm So anyone thinks me correctly declaring Rej town but failing to save him to be scum?

Nobody cares.

What's your opinion of Lunalee?

My opinion:

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:55 am

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:59 am I apologize I dont have much service where I am on vacation.

The case on Lunalee makes sense and I could also see nutella being bad. They both are notoriously difficult to read at times. Lunas response to the suspicion on her was that she is busy and had a lot going on and messed up which is perhaps possible. Nutella response is to get really defensive.

In looking at Luna she originally seemed to be defending rej but then last second votes him openly admitting she just randomly voted because she thought he maybe had one sketchy post which she sort of wasn't really suspicious of initially. Ehhhh It's not a good look even if she is busy.

Nutella has been wrong on a lot of her reads so far but it is in her nature to kinda move around with the flow of the thread. I'm not sold on her being town as of yet but I feel the Luna case is more compelling.


[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

hate

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:02 pm Wow Epi I did make you work. Appreciate the insight though.

@Lunalee I would like to hear what you have to say about Epi's points.

short answer, I jumped into the game and voted when I shouldn't have.
long answer, when I play with new names I easily forget who people are and who I had formed opinions on. I also was on my phone before end of day and didn't know how to navigate well enough to check who I had opinions on the previous day. Also I was at a wedding that started at lynch time and didn't feel comfortable using my phone for long before the ceremony started.

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine

sleep
Bear with me folks, I'll try to be a bit more competent even though I'm on vacation this week.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:02 am I think timmer is scum for his push on Rej. and refuse to reconsider.Going to vote in the poll

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:41 am 12 hours to make something happen and the Switch is being left at home.

Why has @Lunalee not responded to me?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:18 am @Lunalee

Are you getting obviously mislynched or were you caught fair and square? I wanna hear from you first on this before I catch up for probably stupid tired brain reasons.

@nutella congrats on advancing to wildcards!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:44 am Luna is the only person I really feel comfortable putting my vote on right now, but I don’t want to create an even more lopsided poll by voting for her right now. But i’m also about to be kayaking on a river for several hours and I don’t plan on bringing my phone with me.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:02 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:54 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:02 am I think timmer is scum for his push on Rej. and refuse to reconsider.Going to vote in the poll

Town can hold strong opinions too. What in particular makes timmer's push look bad?

did you read my post 860 ?

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:55 am

timmer wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:10 pm This: "does it mean that this are mostly civillians jumping over to look and make right decisions or could it be baddies who approach to save someone?"

This: "On the other side I don't know if mafia profits from mislynching Dragomir, when Dragomir approaches me or other people agressively. "

This: "I heard nutella can perform far more impressive"

The first two statements have a real calculation behind them. I don't think a civ would care this much about trying to define the makeup of a Lynch train. It's day 1. Stuff happens and we vote. But why worry about how a mislynch would look? A civ shouldn't care how a Lynch would look to baddies at all, and a civ seems less likely to use the term mislynch here because a civ rej doesn't know what drag is.

The third statement makes me wonder about btsc.


So I'm staying put.

The reasoning here is odd because anytime a townie says he is a mislynch a bell should ring for his fellows. Also, Rej anf Drago knows each other and have a history.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:12 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:05 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:44 am Luna is the only person I really feel comfortable putting my vote on right now, but I don’t want to create an even more lopsided poll by voting for her right now. But i’m also about to be kayaking on a river for several hours and I don’t plan on bringing my phone with me.

that sounds lovely. I need a kayaking buddy right now but my husband insists on sleeping in on vacation, and my sister in law is tired. lol

Syndicate Kayak Outing: all are welcome except speedchuck.

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:34 pm And rej, here is where i am trying to help you, but, as I've already asked you, what is your opinion on the other players? Who else do you suspect? I can tell you quite honestly, if you don't bother trying to study the rest of the game, I think you are toast.

So what else do you think?

timmer wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:36 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:50 pm timmer, who's bad?

No idea. I never get good reads early in a game. Tonight I want to study the days vote patterns a bit.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:10 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:49 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:30 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:23 pm ......hello-o-ooo??!?? kinda expected to have more to read here lol

do you know that you have control of the amount of content in the thread?

Not when I'm not fucking here? Seriously dude you need to work on prioritizing your callouts to things that actually matter, not non-existent issues

I’m voting for Dom to put attention on this exchange. I feel like something is happening here but I don’t know what it is. But it’s visible to me and I want to make sure it’s visible to other people too. I won’t be here to do other things the rest of the day. Sorry.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:16 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:15 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:10 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:49 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:30 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:23 pm ......hello-o-ooo??!?? kinda expected to have more to read here lol

do you know that you have control of the amount of content in the thread?

Not when I'm not fucking here? Seriously dude you need to work on prioritizing your callouts to things that actually matter, not non-existent issues

I’m voting for Dom to put attention on this exchange. I feel like something is happening here but I don’t know what it is. But it’s visible to me and I want to make sure it’s visible to other people too. I won’t be here to do other things the rest of the day. Sorry.

um, looks like a lot of nothing to me.

Why?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:28 am Luna can you tell me if you're a wolf plz?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:21 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:19 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine because I'm here now, and why not.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:02 pm That's a rough night.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:09 pm [VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:35 pm This whole time I thought we lynched Luna, lol.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:43 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:36 am Okay we’re lynching Luna today. If anyone has a reason not to lynch Luna speak now.

Seeing as the day’s plan is clear, let’s try to not waste the day and pretend Luna has just died and we’re doing night 3 analysis, seeing that the thread is locked during night 3.

If Luna flips scum I think Creature is the obvious target day 4 but I don’t think that’s the right one.

The player who wants to look very Civ will sternly advise us to play the rest of the Day as though Luna were not on the table.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:45 am Listen-- I;m cool with a lunalee or jack lynch, but i don't see the jack pushback

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:22 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:02 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:03 pm
You also are making me work.

1) That she confused Creature for Rej
2) That she voted at the last minute despite it being an inopportune time
3) That she innocently voted for a civilian when the person she said she said she suspected was up for lynch
4) That she felt the need to vote at all despite being uninformed (as she claimed).

That's a lot to buy.

Lunalee, yesterday I read your explanation for your vote as sincere but today I have to question my judgement because Epi is dead.

This quote is Epi's boiled down version of why he found you to be bad. I need to understand points 2 and 4 a little better.

You are at a wedding and it is about to begin. You do not feel well informed on the game. Why would you go to the trouble of getting on your phone, at a wedding, and place a vote in those circumstances, especially such a critical vote? Why not forego the vote and let everyone know afterwords time got away from you and you were not in a circumstance where you could place a vote, plus you were not comfortable the you had your facts straight? Can you see why that looks odd?

I don't think this is a fair criticism.

Mafia is more important than weddings. If Luna hadn't cast her vote, she'd have been lynched. So you're basically making the argument that Luna should die or Luna should die.

Which is fine if that's because you scumread her so much but it's getting the cart before the horse or whatever the appropriate metaphor is.

I'm saying this looks like distancing.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:33 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:52 am

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:45 am Listen-- I;m cool with a lunalee or jack lynch, but i don't see the jack pushback

why lynch Jack? I really don't see it.

This is a really good post. Either Luna is a dedicated Civ, or playing with fire as a baddie.

However, I am really sure that Epi made the big case on Luna because he red-peeked her, and that's how you do it in a no-infodropping game. The fact that his points against her were, to me, varying levels of weak, only strengthens that belief.

So now we are seeing Luna defend Jack. Perhaps we are meant, post-baddie-Luna-lynch, to conclude that Jack is bad. Maybe that's her play here.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:57 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:22 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:02 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:03 pm
You also are making me work.

1) That she confused Creature for Rej
2) That she voted at the last minute despite it being an inopportune time
3) That she innocently voted for a civilian when the person she said she said she suspected was up for lynch
4) That she felt the need to vote at all despite being uninformed (as she claimed).

That's a lot to buy.

Lunalee, yesterday I read your explanation for your vote as sincere but today I have to question my judgement because Epi is dead.

This quote is Epi's boiled down version of why he found you to be bad. I need to understand points 2 and 4 a little better.

You are at a wedding and it is about to begin. You do not feel well informed on the game. Why would you go to the trouble of getting on your phone, at a wedding, and place a vote in those circumstances, especially such a critical vote? Why not forego the vote and let everyone know afterwords time got away from you and you were not in a circumstance where you could place a vote, plus you were not comfortable the you had your facts straight? Can you see why that looks odd?

I don't think this is a fair criticism.

Mafia is more important than weddings. If Luna hadn't cast her vote, she'd have been lynched. So you're basically making the argument that Luna should die or Luna should die.

Which is fine if that's because you scumread her so much but it's getting the cart before the horse or whatever the appropriate metaphor is.

I'm saying this looks like distancing.

Actually no, I would not have gotten lynched on day 1.

But I do realize it would have been a better for me not to have voted than trying to pick a wagon last-minute. And I already said as much.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:38 pm I didn't even notice Epi was the cop. In hindsight, the peek is real obvious and Luna is certainly a baddie.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:38 pm I'm perfectly willing to hear that Lunalee is innocent, but for me to move my hand, I will need a more convincing place to go.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:47 pm I believe our scum pool could be narrowed down to people voting for me who also have the least number of posts in this game.