The Syndicate

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:32 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:01 pm I still think pyxxy might be a wolf.

With SVS being nightkilled, I like in theory going back and following SVS's solve #316, but pyxxy opted to go through and offer their own take on SVS's reads #523, but the part I don't like is that SVS had three town reads (DrWilgy, myself, and Sabi), and pyxxy took hedged on them and turned them into wolfreads, or didn't say anything about them.

The only townread that pyxxy had in her readlist is Sean, one she also disagreed with SVS on.

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pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:15 am
lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:01 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:52 am hey @lucy if you're done with dinner, you seem to be active tn, maybe you can help me think about something

I think the SVS kill was PR hunting

read SVS ISO and there's quite a bit about digging, the mechanics

Kate's ISO is similar, actually, and uhhhhhhh yeah

if SVS kill was PR hunting and thus maybe not to influence town about the rest of the falcon wagon, what does that say about the remains of the falcon wagon? aka Sabi and fingersplints
what do u think about svs's reads?
do I get my answer if I answer this?

it's a D1 reads list

it's all over the place and I don't think it's a factor in why SVS died, besides maybe it was part of being active as town, so....I'm not really invested in analyzing it

but if we're trading answers, I'll care

my opinion of each of SVS's reads:
- pyxxy: SVS doesn't know me / my game, reasonable take

- falcon: yeah I mean looks like a bunch of other townies can't read town!Falcon either, so, reasonable take

- lucy (you): accurate. you didn't say much D1

- neon: POE for lack of similarities to other Neon town games, I can't speak to that, but I personally townlean Neon here after watching the end of the NPC game

- Seanzie: pulled this exact same s*** in the NPC game but idt SVS knew this, I townlean Seanzie for it and also for digging but not knowing about locked votes, I think it's totally believeable based on my experience with him in the NPC game

- mac: reasonable take

- wilgy: reasonable take, one I somewhat agree with, but I just watched scum wilgs in the NPC game so I've got recency bias and this wilgy reads the same as scum wilgy to me

- marmot: reasonable take, agreed, although idk if I townlean marmot for it, I think it's an easily fakeable D1

- Kate: the joy of flips, an accurate read

- dennis: unsure. I opened today also wondering about dennis

- sabi:

- Fingersplints:

odd that these two are at the end of the reads together, and also the remains of the Falcon wagon. world is full of strange coincidences

I think some VCA of the order of votes might do us some good

@pyxxy can you talk about Sabi and fingerplints, and is there anyone you townlean in this game outside of Sean?
why am I getting bump set spiked by you and @lucy

baited into posting a big reads list, which is not how I like to play, only for lucy to ghost me and you to use it as ammo against me

I didn't want to talk about Sabi or fingersplints because I wanted to see how they both entered the thread today, given I was on late + I'm west coast US which is why I was active when the thread opened late, but I figured most people have lives.

Related, @/everyone, I need someone to teach me how to search for votes in the game thread.

Is there any particular reason you wanted to wait and see how those two entered the thread?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:05 pm Marmot could be wolfing but I think if he was he would be trying to uwu pocket me and there's a lack of that?

uwu

Thankfully we still have 2 mis-elims before MYLO/LYLO, and mafia getting the vig doesn't change that, but it would still behoove town way more to get their hands on it.

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:23 pm -1x night vig shot

From my recollection, this is just a NK but for town right? So if mafia gets this, do they get two NKs?

I believe that's correct.

Looking back at the players that died and whether or not PRs could be in play:

Kate died to the lizard. Falcon didn't dig at all. So that means neither of them hit a PR.

I reeeeeally hope SVS didn't hit a PR hole.

I'm just surprised that with 9 other players to think about, pyxxy has one townread.

I still think pyxxy might be a wolf.

With SVS being nightkilled, I like in theory going back and following SVS's solve #316, but pyxxy opted to go through and offer their own take on SVS's reads #523, but the part I don't like is that SVS had three town reads (DrWilgy, myself, and Sabi), and pyxxy took hedged on them and turned them into wolfreads, or didn't say anything about them.

The only townread that pyxxy had in her readlist is Sean, one she also disagreed with SVS on.

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pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:15 am
lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:01 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:52 am hey @lucy if you're done with dinner, you seem to be active tn, maybe you can help me think about something

I think the SVS kill was PR hunting

read SVS ISO and there's quite a bit about digging, the mechanics

Kate's ISO is similar, actually, and uhhhhhhh yeah

if SVS kill was PR hunting and thus maybe not to influence town about the rest of the falcon wagon, what does that say about the remains of the falcon wagon? aka Sabi and fingersplints
what do u think about svs's reads?
do I get my answer if I answer this?

it's a D1 reads list

it's all over the place and I don't think it's a factor in why SVS died, besides maybe it was part of being active as town, so....I'm not really invested in analyzing it

but if we're trading answers, I'll care

my opinion of each of SVS's reads:
- pyxxy: SVS doesn't know me / my game, reasonable take

- falcon: yeah I mean looks like a bunch of other townies can't read town!Falcon either, so, reasonable take

- lucy (you): accurate. you didn't say much D1

- neon: POE for lack of similarities to other Neon town games, I can't speak to that, but I personally townlean Neon here after watching the end of the NPC game

- Seanzie: pulled this exact same s*** in the NPC game but idt SVS knew this, I townlean Seanzie for it and also for digging but not knowing about locked votes, I think it's totally believeable based on my experience with him in the NPC game

- mac: reasonable take

- wilgy: reasonable take, one I somewhat agree with, but I just watched scum wilgs in the NPC game so I've got recency bias and this wilgy reads the same as scum wilgy to me

- marmot: reasonable take, agreed, although idk if I townlean marmot for it, I think it's an easily fakeable D1

- Kate: the joy of flips, an accurate read

- dennis: unsure. I opened today also wondering about dennis

- sabi:

- Fingersplints:

odd that these two are at the end of the reads together, and also the remains of the Falcon wagon. world is full of strange coincidences

I think some VCA of the order of votes might do us some good

@pyxxy can you talk about Sabi and fingerplints, and is there anyone you townlean in this game outside of Sean?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:52 am
Neon wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:43 am I think Wilgy is town. He would have voted Falcon otherwise. So his wagon probably has 1 mafia on it.

There's a maf in the Falcon voters probably.

Other one is off wagon.
Actually kinda how I was feeling just looking at the wagon structure over night and my general thoughts on the game though I usually like to wait a couple days before focusing in on that.
I think I'd agree if we weren't missing votes/engagements.

Wilgy wagon:
Marmot could be wolfin. The early rando drop on me would be an easy enough way to smokescreen.

Oddly enough, I think I townlean Dennis for the 'mistake vote on me' after Cartomancy, I don't think W!Dennis makes that mistake and then admits to the mistake. Given the context of them being busy as well, it makes sense.

Pyxxy could be wolfin, but I think I'm doubting. It felt that they had very little hunting and alot of mechanic poop early. The more recent posts this cycle seems very similar to their NPC game though. the NPC game at least would be indicative of how they play without data.

Falcon wagon:
Sabi got a birthday pass, but needs to start solving this cycle. I think should've known better about a d1 Falcon yeet.

Splints is just a wolf IMO. Voted Falcon when that wasn't a good vote, invalidated mechanical discourse, gave an excuse to falcon flipping green before it was done.

I picked you for a vote because you were the player most likely to understand and accept my silliness.

But yeah. I can see how it looks like easy wolfin' on the surface. What do you make of me beyond my vote for you on Day 1?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:33 am Damn this game quiet

Can you give us reads on more players?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:12 pm Oic. I'm caught up now.

Toss Mac onto that pile of would votes.

I'd say like right behind the other two.

Sorry for the wolf rand.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:34 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:13 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:30 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:21 pm Yeah, seems so.

So far Kate and SVS are town.

Pyxxy is null.

Seanzie is wolf lean.
Thoughts on the good doctor?
Feels OK? Do you think otherwise?
Not particularly, no. But right now I'm in a dark room with a napping baby so I can't check my notes

peeks over shoulder

Can I see your notes?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:26 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:18 pm @Seanzie why did you pick pyxxy of all the players on the list?
They had posted. I see now that you and Dennis also had posted, but I don't think I was cognizant of that when I voted. I was in the line for a drink at the bar, and after getting my drink I was going to be with a friend, so I was trying to get through the "town streaking" part and get my vote on the table quickly before the line ended, and so just choose the one person I was aware of having had posted.

Sounds exactly like something I would do.

Did your friend ask you what "town streaking" meant?

SVS's POE has layers!!

Can I call it your inner POE?

(Cake is real)

@Seanzie why did you pick pyxxy of all the players on the list?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:22 am Seanzie made a bunch of one letter posts, and voted for reasons of his own. IIRC he later said he didn't realize votes were locked in, BUT knew to dig with his vote. I can see a civ reason to want to dig early, more than a bad one, other than evading the spotty lizard, but i don't see that as much of an issue on day one for the woofs, when many spots besides the ones they know about are open. Also stress equity. The POEiest of the POE.

Does POEist of the POE mean you think he's the most or least suspicious of your POE?

I do like the points you raised about him. I agree that him being a wolf and evading the lizard doesn't seem likely, he is a math guy and would know full well there are plenty of spaces to avoid it on Day 1 and feel no rush for that reason.

Overall I still lean him town.

I agree lucy hasn't been involved at all either, but I don't feel like pressuring her today after the way Cartomancy ended. I'd rather give her a little space for today.

I don't really want to chop Sabi on their birthday, and also I know they're going to be busy today, so I'm mostly leaving them alone today too.

Other people might have different opinion on not pressuring people based on out-of-game reasons. If it wasn't Day 1, I would probably approach this differently, but since it is Day 1, I feel ok with it.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:24 am
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:15 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:31 am The wolves are MacDougall, pyxxy, and falcon45ca.
For realz or for lolz?
Yeah, I'm having this problem too. Is it real or is it cake?

At the moment, it was a list of players who I think I have the weakest argument to call town.

MacDougall: Ignoring meta entirely, he's offered one post of game-related content. I don't think it would take much work for him to change that read, and I expect he will, it just hasn't happened yet.
pyxxy: Mostly mech-related discussion thus far. I think that she's fine on tone, and the discussion points she mentioned have been fruitful, I'm glad she mentioned a scumread, but I would like to know what she saw in the other falcon that she doesn't see now.
falcon45ca: For better or for worse, falcon always seems to be in his wolfrange, and this game is no different. I don't see any bite in his reads, which is the one thing that makes me think it's a little more likely to be right.

@Kate do you have any opinions on these players?

The wolves are MacDougall, pyxxy, and falcon45ca.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:41 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:32 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:14 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:10 pm I'll try to get jack and Dennis to watch it with me tomorrow.
100% think you should. I'm probably going to rewatch it in the next few days as well. It was quite good, and people saying it holds up has me excited.

It definitely holes up.
Did my Dad sneak in here to make these jokes?

Your dad's been here the hole time.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:36 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:32 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:14 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:10 pm I'll try to get jack and Dennis to watch it with me tomorrow.
100% think you should. I'm probably going to rewatch it in the next few days as well. It was quite good, and people saying it holds up has me excited.

It definitely holes up.
You spelled "holds" wrong.

You spelled "right" wrong.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:14 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:10 pm I'll try to get jack and Dennis to watch it with me tomorrow.
100% think you should. I'm probably going to rewatch it in the next few days as well. It was quite good, and people saying it holds up has me excited.

It definitely holes up.

I should try this strategy tomorrow

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:20 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:45 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:39 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:32 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:32 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:49 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:31 pm

What do you think was funny about it?
I meant literally like haha it's funny, not like it's weird or sus

Thought it was silly he immediately locked his vote in
I know what kind of funny you meant. What did you find it haha funny?
The frankness of it? Maybe how he looked stupid to everyone else (sorry seanzie i dont mean it)? I dunno exactly, but something was comedic about it

Dunno why you're pushing this
Not every question is a push wolf boy. Chill.
I DUNNO MAN YOU WERE TALKING ALL SERIOUS AND IT SCARED ME
*votes Dennis*

I see what you did there

The wolves are the friends you made along the way.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:08 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:06 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:17 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:15 pm Marmot is saying a lot of wifom and the flaw of his logic is if one of him or Sean is wolf or would not be optimal to push on either of them
I wrote this while walking so this doesn't make sense

Basically if on eof them is wolf, wolves won't push on either of them because it would not be optimal because the dynamic between marmot/seanzie can't be flipped
So now you just have to decide whether or not I'm a wolf. Good luck.
Ur too cute to be a wolf

You're too gay to be a wolf

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Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:31 pm Glad we have three wasted votes on:

Pyxxy
Wilgz
Neon

Mafia is will control the day kill if marmot, Seanzie and falcon are all town.

You heard Sabi!!! Pile on wolves.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:09 pm [VOTE: neon] aubergine

You missed.

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:03 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:22 pm I want to vote Sean right now lol
Is this the wolf Marmot was looking for?
Only if you are Level 0

I am Level -69

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:55 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:40 pm Oh, well that's a lizard of a different color...
No, the lizard is yellow... with spots.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:15 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:03 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:22 pm I want to vote Sean right now lol
Is this the wolf Marmot was looking for?
I don't think it's a great idea for Marmot to do something someone else already did, then proclaim 'anyone who pushes me or Sean as wolf is wolf' and for us to fall for that. I was more pingy about Marmot doing this early vote thing until Sean then turned around and tried to push neon for doing what Marmot said we shouldn't do. Ya know?

I think we can all agree it wasn't a good idea.

I'm confused though, were you pinged before about what I did, and then now you aren't?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:21 pm @Marmot can you detail your Splints read for me?

That entry honestly felt the most off. It was very little motivation and an excuse for not engaging in mechanical talk.

I can see that. To me, opting out of mech discussion doesn't bother me. I've seen other players do this before, and I don't think it's particularly AI.

What did you find off about it?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:17 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:15 pm Marmot is saying a lot of wifom and the flaw of his logic is if one of him or Sean is wolf or would not be optimal to push on either of them
I wrote this while walking so this doesn't make sense

Basically if on eof them is wolf, wolves won't push on either of them because it would not be optimal because the dynamic between marmot/seanzie can't be flipped

So now you just have to decide whether or not I'm a wolf. Good luck.

Of the group of townreads I mentioned, the two that I think I could be wrong on are:

Sean: yeah he did the same thing as I did, but I do think it's in Sean's wolf range to do that.
pyxxxy: all of her discussion has been mech-related thus far, and wolves hiding behind mech discussion as their primary content early on isn't uncommon.

As I mentioned before, I think it would be slightly w!indicative for someone to push me or Sean for doing something off the wall.

Given this game is quiet thus far, I think the wolves are either not saying much (and taking advantage of the quiet start), or if they were posting regularly, I think they'd want to apply some amount of pressure to someone.

I think the pressure you applied looked like someone trying to formulate a read, and not someone trying to push a little shade.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:18 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:08 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:07 pm Okay yeah I'm definitely just weird for reading setups

Good to know
That's fine.

I'm weird for a million other reasons.
OK, that made me laugh. And yeah, as I do recall you were famed for the snapvotes, but wasn't it votes on yourself?

I always read set ups, since i'm fairly fussy on what I want to play. I won't play a game with role/info dumps. It sucks to have a good baddie game ruined by something beyond your control, and as a civ, half the fun of mafia is solving the mystery. In real life, it's great when a cop runs into the squad room, waving a videotape of the crime, but in games, not so much. At least not for me.

I have evolved to at least make a slightly nonoptimal play (snapvoting someone else) instead of an extremely nonoptimal play (snapvoting myself).

I do think in general that's a good idea, reading setup before the game begins. I'm sure the host appreciates it too, especially if you catch something in the setup that's unbalanced that they missed. I signed up for this game because of the theme, so I didn't bother reading the setup tbh. Holes was one of my favorite movies as a kid, and one of the few movies I actually think was better than the book.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:20 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:15 pm I really do think that everyone who has posted at least a few times thus far is town.

Nobody has bothered to push Sean or myself for making a not-optimal play to start the game, or if they are it's doing so inquisitively, and not a heavy-handed push. Given there's very little else to talk about thus far (aside from mech), I do think a wolf would take the opportunity to push it.

I know Dennis is pressing me about it, but I think the manner with which he's doing it strikes me as townie.

Sean, SVS, pyxxxy, and fingersplints also fall into that camp of players I think are town for their opening.
Okay I like this, not sure if I agree that pushing it is wolfy exactly but I can understand it from your perspective

What makes the way I'm pushing it different from how a wolf would push it?

Do you think this game being lighthearted so far affected the way you read everyone, with them just joking around and all?

Overall, another BANGER post 9.2/10

I think in general joking around is NAI, although the amount of and the style of the fluff can be AI depending on the player.

What do you make of this game thus far? Do you have any strong reads?

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:14 pm You forgetting to dig is honestly like, NAI because we just talked about how a lot of people don't read the setup

Can someone say something controversial to get this game really going

I just assembled a towncore, have fun with it.

I really do think that everyone who has posted at least a few times thus far is town.

Nobody has bothered to push Sean or myself for making a not-optimal play to start the game, or if they are it's doing so inquisitively, and not a heavy-handed push. Given there's very little else to talk about thus far (aside from mech), I do think a wolf would take the opportunity to push it.

I know Dennis is pressing me about it, but I think the manner with which he's doing it strikes me as townie.

Sean, SVS, pyxxxy, and fingersplints also fall into that camp of players I think are town for their opening.

Look Dennis, I can still go deep and openwolf at the same time!

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:08 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:04 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:59 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:23 am [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Votes are not changeable in the poll.
You have to dig in the same post as your vote
Ture, although I don't have to dig today.

I probably should have waited though, pyxxxy made a good point that digging early is pro-town in order to give the powers to the townies.
This made me raised_eyebrow.jpg

Why don't you wanna dig today?

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That thought didn't occur to me before I voted.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:07 pm Okay yeah I'm definitely just weird for reading setups

Good to know

That's fine.

I'm weird for a million other reasons.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:57 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:01 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:58 am To be honest I think seanzie and marmot just voting immediately doesn't mean much but I won't forget about it

Mac, do you sign up for games without reading the setup? Or am I weird for reading the setup
I don't even know how I managed to forget Marmot

Ebwop
Is it because he is your wolf partner?

Sean, you're our third, please join the scumchat.

*put Mac in this group

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:01 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:58 am To be honest I think seanzie and marmot just voting immediately doesn't mean much but I won't forget about it

Mac, do you sign up for games without reading the setup? Or am I weird for reading the setup
I don't even know how I managed to forget Marmot

Ebwop

Some people (I'll put Mac in this game) sign up for every or almost every game regardless of the setup, and don't feel the need to read the setup until the game starts.

I tend to do the same.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:59 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:23 am [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Votes are not changeable in the poll.
You have to dig in the same post as your vote

Ture, although I don't have to dig today.

I probably should have waited though, pyxxxy made a good point that digging early is pro-town in order to give the powers to the townies.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:41 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:23 am [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Votes are not changeable in the poll.
Care to elaborate on reasons why?

Done.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:58 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:25 am Sean is volume cleared.

Everyone else who has posted is also town
Volume cleared? His first 10-15 posts were one letter each

You didn't say why you voted for Wilgy. Lulz?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:30 am
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:10 pm I would like to make a public plea to tptb to please bring back the linki!
Plz no
Plz yes.

@pyxxy I love mechanical discussion, and no one seems to want to do it anymore, I haz a sad. I especially love it in a game like this with unusual variables. Knowing what hypothetical zany shenanigans can happen before they happen to you is a good thing.

It's mostly a silly read that I don't believe in very much.

At least that part of it. I do think that Sean snapvoting to start the day while non-optimal is slightly townie.

Why would I do the same thing as Sean even if it's not optimal? It's been a long time since I've played a game with locked votes on Day 1, and if you remember, I used to be "that person" who would snapvote on Day 1, and I kinda wanted to do it again for old time's sake.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:44 am hey soz team I'm a bit busy atm... I'll try to make some time

hands Mac a shovel

Sean is volume cleared.

Everyone else who has posted is also town

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