The Syndicate

You did the right thing team.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:43 pm I don’t like Mac being there to scream at the exact right time.

But also I’ve argued for Radish as scum all game, so can’t be mad

Oh please it was end of day and I literally just got to the office. The exact right time would have been sometime in the last hour, not the absolute last minute.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:40 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:40 pm I want to vote mac but dont know why
OMG scum everywhere
Lol. Everyone who suspects you are scum suuure.

Of course they are

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:39 pm I don’t even think radishes is a bad kill, I just don’t understand why we aren’t killing mac tbh
Lynch this guy please
You don’t have the Jimmy Johnson’s

There are lots of things I don't have.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:40 pm I want to vote mac but dont know why

OMG scum everywhere

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:39 pm I don’t even think radishes is a bad kill, I just don’t understand why we aren’t killing mac tbh

Lynch this guy please

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:38 pm Not that I suspect Mac but I’ll be voting him anyways [VOTE: mac] aubergine

Absolute scenes as sprityo outs himself as scum

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:33 pm @G-Man what's your read on Mac? Hurry
Overall, Mac is hard for me to read. Nutella thinking he is bad from beyond the grave could sway me. I’m also glad she shares my distrust of Sloonei.

Fucking fuck fuck

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:11 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:09 pm Opinion noted.
What's your take on the Turnip?
Town until he voted me. I’m thinking Mac has at least one buddy that did so. Dunno if it’s TH.

Motherfucker I am never scum here. Both scum teams are obviously lynching me.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:18 pm Okay so the fact that I have had 6 unmoved votes on me for the past 2 hours approaching deadline is a pretty solid indication that both scum teams are on my wagon imo.

The fact that Jack/TH/G-Man and Radishes wagons have all had no momentum strongly indicates at least 1, probably more of them are solid wagons.

I am not letting you lynch me today. So figure out where to put your vote that isn't me. This ain't happening.
Okay, I don’t trust Sloonei, so I can’t vote for Radish. I’m not crazy enough to vote for myself (yet). That leaves TH. I don’t have a handle on the case for lynching him, so care to share? There’s too much post-vomit to sift through and I’ve got ironing to do.

I don't have a scum read on TH so I cannot help you there.

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] help

[mention]juliets[/mention], [mention]S~V~S[/mention], [mention]tedxtr[/mention] if you are neither here nor there between MR and G-Man, please move your vote to MR now.

I am not going to vote for TH unless I have no choice. G-Man and MR are the counterwagons here imo. If you don't want to be on me at end of day start.contemplating which of them you want lynched. I would prefer it to be MR over G-Man beacuse the MR suspicion has the right combination of momentum without ever seeming to be able to get over the line. Of the three c'wagons I'd say that's your huckleberr.

Okay so the fact that I have had 6 unmoved votes on me for the past 2 hours approaching deadline is a pretty solid indication that both scum teams are on my wagon imo.

The fact that Jack/TH/G-Man and Radishes wagons have all had no momentum strongly indicates at least 1, probably more of them are solid wagons.

I am not letting you lynch me today. So figure out where to put your vote that isn't me. This ain't happening.

It'd be really cool if I wasn't the centre of discussion. You're not going to lynch mafia without entertaining other lynches I assure you.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:30 pm Jack is a pretty simple read. If he makes you smile he's town.
I had specchat rolling as a wolf two seasons ago. This is flat wrong.

How amazingly relevant

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:30 pm I've had Jack more or less locked in as town since these posts:
Spoiler: show
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:42 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:38 am I’ve been wrong about jack being town 4/5 times so odds are in my favor that you’re not town on top of I think all this subway sandwiches I’ve been eating are enforcing a healthier lifestyle

My gut wants less jack in my life, jack
That’s not how odds work.

Your gut is wrong. I’m clearly fucking town here and I’m clearly right on Nutella, too.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:45 am Two of my voters aren’t paying attention and have demanded I be more town even though I have an actual case on a wolf. One of my voters entirely misunderstood something I said and thinks I’m bad based on that misunderstanding. One of my voters is clearly bullshitting her read on me because she’s a wolf and I don’t remember why Jay is voting me.

The idea “I like the Jack voters. Therefore, Jack is bad” is like a level -3 thought.
I think this brief emotional outburst (headwall emoji; vehement dismissal of multiple voters) does not exist unless Jack's convictions are completely honest. That's not just his conviction about nutella's alignment at the time, but also his own conviction that he's coming from a true and honest place. It reads as genuine frustration in a way that I don't even think would occur to a mafia player to fake, if mafia Jack would even be inclined to fake an emotional outburst like this in the first place.

I think @JaggedJimmyJay asked about this.

You arent serious? Jack is hostile as scum all the time. He becomes Brightburn.

Jack is a pretty simple read. If he makes you smile he's town.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:02 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:56 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:54 pm Like beyond Mac’s teammates dogpiling, I haven’t a clue why I’m being voted for. I’m insanely town here. Did a bunch of stuff yesterday I wouldn’t have done as a wolf.
Like what?
Going hard on anyone D1. Backing off Nutella.

We’ve been over this.
I don't associate that with any particular version of Jack. I do associate being overtly serious, having a harsh tone and a lack of joyfulness as being your scum game and it is here in spades.
Bullshit.

It’s like you remember and don’t remember your own game as is convenient.
Wtf does this even mean?
It means I was exactly as serious early on in that game as I am now. Your read is nonsense.

What game am I talking about? Because it's all of them.

Be back later hopefully. If not GL.

But TH's wagon is quite impure.

Sabie is probably TH's teammate given she had to justify not voting TH over me.

Every wagon rises and falls but mine. I wonder why.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:56 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:54 pm Like beyond Mac’s teammates dogpiling, I haven’t a clue why I’m being voted for. I’m insanely town here. Did a bunch of stuff yesterday I wouldn’t have done as a wolf.
Like what?
Going hard on anyone D1. Backing off Nutella.

We’ve been over this.
I don't associate that with any particular version of Jack. I do associate being overtly serious, having a harsh tone and a lack of joyfulness as being your scum game and it is here in spades.
Bullshit.

It’s like you remember and don’t remember your own game as is convenient.

Wtf does this even mean?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:12 pm I've also not been a fan of TH this game I just read the ISO. My first issue with them at the beginning of the game was making reads with no real explanation. Then their treatment of colin was weird to me like they were so sure its gotta be colin and anyone who thought maybe give colin a chance must be bad too. Now all of a sudden since no one was following that he's onto something else. Shrug idk I don't feel great about him so far.

I think right now though I feel worse about mac. I'm not seeing him as civ and in looking back at other games I could see his responses as a scum mac. He is trying to get people off himself without trying to make cases elsewhere. His blindly following jack on nutella was meh. I know he has a way of trying to sneakily get suspicion in different directions without directly saying it.
[VOTE: mac] aubergine

This is a classic scum vote. Talk about someone else first. But ultimately have little reason to have even brought it up because the goal is to get your vote on the mislynch.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:57 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:55 pm Could we lynch Sabie?
Thanks for reminding me that I wanted to ask @MacDougall what he saw as Sabie's scum tell.

She worked too hard to quantify tossing a vote on me. She wrote a prep post for it, then in the vote post she wrote a wall of drivel to justify voting there. It's what nervous scum do especially when voting to block progression of a teammate wagon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:56 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:54 pm Like beyond Mac’s teammates dogpiling, I haven’t a clue why I’m being voted for. I’m insanely town here. Did a bunch of stuff yesterday I wouldn’t have done as a wolf.
Like what?
Going hard on anyone D1. Backing off Nutella.

We’ve been over this.

I don't associate that with any particular version of Jack. I do associate being overtly serious, having a harsh tone and a lack of joyfulness as being your scum game and it is here in spades.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:56 pm Or sprit? Idfk

Or Dragomir. Or G-Man. Or TSP. Name a player and they're likely a better lynch than me.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:53 pm This game is a lot of
Some people: We need to vote X for meta reasons.
Some people: We need to not vote X for meta reasons.

And I'm like: ......

You have a good point. If you strip meta away there are people who are obfuscating their intentions and people who simply are not contributing. Perhaps rather than lynching talkative contributors on day 2 of the champs game we should lynch from the pool of apathy.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:51 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:49 pm My gut is telling me to vote Jack.
Your gut on me sucks.

Why would you even suspect me?

I'll provide ample reasons in due time.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:48 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:38 pmCause I was super wrong on you in Girl Genius.

Also,I tunneled you in Mass Effect on like D8 after you had defended a teammate and coasted and I didn’t really care about your alignment, which is way different from how I’ve treated Nutella this game.
This is honestly what I wanted to hear lol
Like I legit thought I had your town and scumgames pegged and I didn’t. So I don’t know how to read you.

Why are you voting me?

MK Ultra ass motherfucker

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:41 pm @MacDougall

What do you have to say for yourself?

Lol get worked goon

Sabie exhibited a classic scum tell in voting me that makes me think she's protecting a counterwagon

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:32 pm Am I blinded to scum Mac? I'm not seeing the behavior I saw in Inception and his response to being scum read is different here than he was there.

Dizzy can you talk about Jack if you're here?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:11 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:09 pm [VOTE: Ted] aubergine

I could be persuaded to vote Mac pretty easily.
Hey you should vote mac
wow okay that sounds good [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

PLEAZE DONG

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:20 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:32 am I see sabie12 and Michelle share my suspicion of TH (maybe others too, i did not read everything, and probably won't get around to it), so i'm glad to see i'm not the only one. I'm putting a vote there.
Ew.

Yes that post is hot garbage

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:15 pm Mac's greatest civilian weakness in my eyes is that he does not effectively shake himself free of his reads -- for better or for worse. I don't mean to be an arse, Mac's a great player. We all have a weakness somewhere. Mac does not easily shed suspicion, and he does not easily shed trust. So no, I don't think his reversal on nutella is a good reason to call him a civilian. That's not his game.

How very wrong you are.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:48 am In Inception his posts stuck out like a sore thumb and he was forcing interactions with his scum buds that were honestly the closest thing to open wolfing ever since day one.

In here he just posted his thoughts and didn’t force anything. His questions in Inception also sucked and he had a general agenda of looking townie, whereas in here he does seem to go at his own pace.

Jesus tell me how you really feel

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:40 am I skimmed the Mac push and I want it on record that he does have a point w/r/t his other GoC games, I scum read him from his first few posts and questions in Inception when I was practicing my scum hunting and I am far from feeling him scum here

Although him showing his pelts is kind of a turn off

You don't get sockys to not gloat.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:31 am Also @mac some people have alluded to your treatment of Jack/nutella on Day 1 as opportunistic or somehow suspicious. Jay and sig mentioned it, I think. Maybe nanook too? Addressing your mindset there might help.

You mean repeating myself and explaining the obvious reasons I did totally basic things on day 1. Yeah that's bound to work

Wait how is Nanook alive?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:22 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:22 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:21 am I also want to go on record that I’m disappointed nobody acknowledged that I randomly told Drago that sprityo is confirmed town. Like I was expecting him or anyone to pick that up and do something with it, I thought it be interesting but now it’s past. Maybe Drago just accepted it and is going to operate in this game with the assumption that sprit is town.
Guilty minded Sloo Sloo
Hijinks gone to waste.

Is there such a thing as lojinks?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:21 am I also want to go on record that I’m disappointed nobody acknowledged that I randomly told Drago that sprityo is confirmed town. Like I was expecting him or anyone to pick that up and do something with it, I thought it be interesting but now it’s past. Maybe Drago just accepted it and is going to operate in this game with the assumption that sprit is town.

Guilty minded Sloo Sloo

My name is Joe.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:14 am Also I have a lifetime achievement award.

Pfft that award's for kloutwhores.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:10 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:07 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:00 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:59 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:57 am I can understand that some people wanna catch the big fish. Especially you big game hunter types like Sig. And we all know the big fish is the Big Mac. I get it. It's the big dick move. Mac is scum, we did it fam! Let's all rejoice we killed the King.

But consider how dumb you will all feel when I flip town and you have left Dragomir alive.

Now I am not saying we should lynch Dragomir. In fact I don't really think that listening to my reads is actually all that good of an idea given I have probably read about 10% of the total game posts. But still.
You are not saying we should lynch Dragomir. So what are you saying?
That I'm only getting suspicion from people because people hate me.
Why do these two posts exist?
What the fuck are you talking about?
This whole comment chain. Your initial post was some weird rant about Big Fish with a conspicuous nod to Drago, who you’re then careful to say you don’t want to lynch. What is the purpose of this? What function does it serve in the game of mafia?

So I like to make people laugh, so sometimes I make posts that are designed to make people laugh. Sometimes when I make posts like that I like to layer it with some game relevant content. Because I was ISOing Dragomir and realised he's done nothing and the idea of ya boy getting lynched over Dragonothere is some bullshit.

But yeah the primary reason is because humour you fucking accountant ass motherfucker.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:13 am I’m on record as being willing to kill drago as well

Dragomir
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No votes
Voters: None

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:07 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:00 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:59 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:57 am I can understand that some people wanna catch the big fish. Especially you big game hunter types like Sig. And we all know the big fish is the Big Mac. I get it. It's the big dick move. Mac is scum, we did it fam! Let's all rejoice we killed the King.

But consider how dumb you will all feel when I flip town and you have left Dragomir alive.

Now I am not saying we should lynch Dragomir. In fact I don't really think that listening to my reads is actually all that good of an idea given I have probably read about 10% of the total game posts. But still.
You are not saying we should lynch Dragomir. So what are you saying?
That I'm only getting suspicion from people because people hate me.
Why do these two posts exist?

What the fuck are you talking about?

8 time socky winner. 2 time funniest poster. 2 time best civilian team victory, 2 time best mafia team victory. The bitch in "do it, bitch". Reigning MVP.

Y'all really wanna come at dis?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:06 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:57 am @Sloonei read posts.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 am Jack isn't town here. If there's one read you should come back to if/when I die it should be this one. I can best summarise it by saying that he feels like he is only half attempting to scum hunt when compared to his actual range. Which would be forgiveable if he wasn't also ever present. He is holding back. Actually this is probably explains why I've had suspicion on a range of other players too. Jay, Sloonei, S~V~S, TSP, Dyslexicon all fit the bill.

I’d ask you to explain this read, but I imagine it will go the same way as when I asked nanook the explain how colin is “disinterested” earlier.
At the time of your initial “above board” post, you seemed to be referencing something specific happening in the moment. What was that?

I wasn't.

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