The Syndicate

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:36 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:34 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:24 pm why is jpic town?

I don’t know who that is.

justplayingitcool

he hasnt shown up past d1 either

we need some prods for all the people who disappeared mid d1 and havent shown up again tbh

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:34 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:24 pm why is jpic town?

I don’t know who that is.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:08 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:50 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:39 pm

Maple wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:34 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:33 pm I see we have reached the portion of the game where town-Colin gets murked via POE. I am fine with this.

This is what I'm talking about. Care to grace us with whatever reads you might have?

Well I don’t trust you!

I like Long Con and Nanook and the sheep person right now. Sprit is putting a good foot forward. Tbh Epi is probably town cause even though he’s retired-ish I can’t see him just posting GIFs as scum.

Somebody said cbob was over-explainy earlier and that has pinged me. iaafr still feels off to me compared to earlier games we’ve played, extremely different energy than those (both townie). I’m still kind of struggling to figure out the people I haven’t played with though

pls point to me over-explaining

Mostly in your defense of Sloonei, felt TMIy reading back too.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:39 pm

Maple wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:34 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:33 pm I see we have reached the portion of the game where town-Colin gets murked via POE. I am fine with this.

This is what I'm talking about. Care to grace us with whatever reads you might have?

Well I don’t trust you!

I like Long Con and Nanook and the sheep person right now. Sprit is putting a good foot forward. Tbh Epi is probably town cause even though he’s retired-ish I can’t see him just posting GIFs as scum.

Somebody said cbob was over-explainy earlier and that has pinged me. iaafr still feels off to me compared to earlier games we’ve played, extremely different energy than those (both townie). I’m still kind of struggling to figure out the people I haven’t played with though

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:33 pm I see we have reached the portion of the game where town-Colin gets murked via POE. I am fine with this.

Maple wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:28 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:40 am

Maple wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:52 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:51 pm is sheep targetting cayvie outting

get a new maybe gif tyty

Get a new face imo

Maple wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:52 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:51 pm is sheep targetting cayvie outting

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:25 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:07 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:04 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:03 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:00 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:58 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:57 am It felt like you took a textbook tell and applied it wrongly (without reading in context), thus, making up reads.

it's like you take a cylinder puzzle piece and trying to fit it in a square one

Right, so why is having a wrong/bad read scummy? You've not really explained why this is making up reads.

you've mistaken my posts intention at an attempt to push me - I've basically elaborated on why you interpreted it the wrong way and you shrugged it off

It's hard for me to see how you, as a villager, would interpret my post the way you did.

I'm engaging with you now so it's hardly shrugging it off. If you're a villager you're gonna be in a world of shock when I flip town.

you're only engaging when tim started pushing the gas pedal on me and it doesn't feel like you're even reaching a point

I think my push on you has made me conclude that you are town.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:32 am So... anyone else want to shade me as scum after calling out ted within my first few posts?

After all your discussions with ted you said he was town.

Maple wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:57 pm Hypothetically speaking how many wolves do I need to bury to fade the yeet tmr

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:24 pm don't look at me it won't end well

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:17 pm also I possibly might've just derp cleared cuz no way I don't find out about reduced night from scumchat

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:46 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:21 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:20 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:52 am Xalt very likely shot HK, making HK very likely mafia, making his green check on maple not a thing.

But Xalt didn’t survive until night phase...

....and?

And he so as a janitoring “vigilante,” he never got a chance to use his power. The janitorings weren’t Xalt’s.

cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:14 am martinGG shot polypies (Wolf), killing him
martinGG shot silverkeith (town), dying and giving SK the gun
silverkeith shot 112 (wolf), killing him
silverkeith shot awesom-0 (town), dying and giving awesom-o the gun
awesom-o shot xalt (wolf) killing him and winning the game.

4 players were proxied so they didn't just die on rand
Tedxtr was Xalt
TSP was 112
Pawn Lelouch was SilverKeith
Macdougall was speedChuck

Apogee wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:21 pm Oh cool 3 (4) wolfflips is good to see

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:48 am me having 4 votes makes me upset

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:26 am

Maple wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:22 am Sometimes I think "maybe I should just invert my reads", but then I remember I'm good at this game

Sometimes I think I’m good at this game, then I realize I should invert my reads.

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:18 am

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:17 am

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:19 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:16 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:16 pm Did the thread just die for an hour in a game with 52 people?

I guess we all must have night abilities we're itching to use or something similar.

Okay wth I wasn't getting new posts for an hour untill I posted something

derp clear accepted

Actually I remembered this post back to [VOTE: AWESOM-O] aubergine

Actually no [VOTE: 112] aubergine

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:59 pm

Adam_ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:57 pm urist is plugging the votecount into a neural network this is bad. we're all caught

I have a notepad file that looks identical where I considered using regex to count how many people were on the poll

I stopped using programmer logic and just counted them with my eyeballs

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:58 pm

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:26 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:17 pm “Bizarre and anti-consensus reads on his shooters...”

What?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:46 pm

jumpluff wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:38 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine
The fool revealed himself as a devious scoundrel seeking to undermine my plan!

Also I was unaware my old vote on Ace was still there. Votes usually just move on their own when I change them.

many shots were taken at you; Hyena, nutella, and 112 declared themselves as challengers towards you

yet I ask

was this, too, part of the Plan? do you cast blame down upon them, or tolerate their antics?

112 is a trusted lieutenant. Nutella is devious and nebulous. We may never know. Hyena is the most concerning of the triumvirate.

(I took these as reads, but looking at it, it occurs to me that it might not be?...)

I found this really opposite from how I see the game

It's not that I find that in itself wolfy; I'm a terribly low confidence player, to the point that (as I stated when asked about this earlier) I tend to assume when I see something completely opposite from how I view the game, it's because the other person is right and I'm wrong. I don't assume I'm right on people until I start flipping wolves, which seems to be atypical

Hyena is extremely villagery to me. nutella's towniest posts have come since you said this, and I think what you were trying to say is that she's a strong player, but I didn't find her wolfy at all, whereas the time I did play with her, she was fairly consistently sussed. 112 I find to be a generally opaque person but wolfy this game, and it surprises me that you could be confident that 112 shot you from a good place, especially since... 112 shot you so they apparently don't share that. 112's claim is also a >rand w role (but not necessarily a wolf)

I felt like the awareness of the players expressed (enough to give reads) would mean you would be motivated to show why you disagreed with everyone on Hyena and 112 in particular, rather than simply answer the question; basically, I don't think what bob said applied to it

I agree it's potentially an easy wagon for wolves to latch onto ('arbitrary'), which is why I'm interrogating it given the opportunity, but it feels more right to me than most options atm

These are definitely reads, i do not deny that. What I’m questing is their categorization as “bizarre“ and “anti-consensus”; bizarre because I don’t know why anything would be wrong with them, and anti-consensus because, like, it’s Day 1. We should be penalizing people for differing opinions.

To elaborate on those reads as the time (which is mostly also as they are now, though I’m feeling better about Hyena), my opinions of all three was based solely on their posts about me. I have not had and will not have time to keep up fully with this game, so for most of Day 1 I’ve mostly just played the hermit crab and only poked my head out when I see my name come up. So I suspected hyena based purely on the way they came after me. Likewise, I town read 112 and nutella entirely because of their early thoughts on me. Nutella is almost literally always suspicious of me by default, and I do not feel like her concerns so far have been fabricated. 112, on the other hand, was getting on my case because my “tone” felt off when I was clearly roleplaying Dr Sloonman was at the helm. I don’t think that’s the kind of false read that a mafia 112 pushes on Day 1.

I do not know or care (well, I care, but not as it pertains to the formation of my own initial reads) what the consensus opinion has been on any of these three before or after any of this.

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:35 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:31 pm

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:27 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:21 pm

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:13 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:09 pm

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:02 pm colonialbob Can you expand on your thoughts on Sloonei wagon?

Majority of Sloonei voters are from off-site (I know Sloonei is a good player but we're not going to have the same attitude towards Sloonei that Syndicate players are, nor has he represented a strong intention to hardcore solve the game)

So I don't think your take that it's an opportunistic attempt to remove the strongest player around is accurate. Syndicate players (or rather, you and DDL that I recall) have generally been like 'gotta give Sloonei a d1 pass', which is stranger to me and even TMI-y given the dissonance between the respect given and Sloonei's investment

Is it normal for Sloonei to take d1s off?

so Sloonei is a player who's super townleader-y. lots of analysis, pushing and prodding, asking good questions, the lot. so for one thing he's a super strong asset for town if he's town. (even when he tunnels me hardcore )

however, that playstyle is understandably tiring, and I've played in several games with ol' sloondog where he clearly did not want to put forth that effort. he was still helpful, still contributed, and importantly was still town. this game so far reminds me strongly of those games. I can totally see him choosing that style for this giant wacky game.

Can you point me to examples of the bolded? (In this game)

I agree with you that he would do this as villager for the reasoning he's supplied (semis coming up) fwiw. I think the style itself is fairly NAI, but I would like your opinion on the thoughts he's given a lot

he's been doing things that allow other people to make reads imo (early voting etc). he's thrown some sus on people for reasons, i like the reasoning. he's kinda been a nice piece of bait. and Epi has been doing his Epi thing and I think it's caught some people out.

also i liked his "they're all village posts" response a lot a lot tbh

Do you think people should find Epignosis villagery? That's very strange to me

Asking this as someone who has played with someone who only posts gifs D1 and is aware of the fact wolves tend to push them

no, i don't expect people to find Epi villagery. he often votes to see who follows, though, and that's what this feels like.

I like the thought but can't evaluate it because a) I don't think anyone is really following Epignosis here, they more just happen to be on a wagon with Epignosis b) I have trouble with facial expressions and other stuff involving looking at faces, so Epignosis's gifs are actually pure unreadable to me and therefore I have no idea how comprehensible his intentions should be and how much benefit of the doubt you're giving

I will say the thing most informing my read on Epignosis is that I asked if he was playing the game (bc I site-iso'd him and saw he didn't want to play) and he showed up with a gif ~immediately, lol

The thing in Sloonei's favour most to me is that like 9 people have tried to kill Sloonei (shooters + wagons) and I'm not 100% the wagon is remotely pure idk

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:27 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:21 pm

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:13 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:09 pm

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:02 pm colonialbob Can you expand on your thoughts on Sloonei wagon?

Majority of Sloonei voters are from off-site (I know Sloonei is a good player but we're not going to have the same attitude towards Sloonei that Syndicate players are, nor has he represented a strong intention to hardcore solve the game)

So I don't think your take that it's an opportunistic attempt to remove the strongest player around is accurate. Syndicate players (or rather, you and DDL that I recall) have generally been like 'gotta give Sloonei a d1 pass', which is stranger to me and even TMI-y given the dissonance between the respect given and Sloonei's investment

Is it normal for Sloonei to take d1s off?

so Sloonei is a player who's super townleader-y. lots of analysis, pushing and prodding, asking good questions, the lot. so for one thing he's a super strong asset for town if he's town. (even when he tunnels me hardcore )

however, that playstyle is understandably tiring, and I've played in several games with ol' sloondog where he clearly did not want to put forth that effort. he was still helpful, still contributed, and importantly was still town. this game so far reminds me strongly of those games. I can totally see him choosing that style for this giant wacky game.

Can you point me to examples of the bolded? (In this game)

I agree with you that he would do this as villager for the reasoning he's supplied (semis coming up) fwiw. I think the style itself is fairly NAI, but I would like your opinion on the thoughts he's given a lot

he's been doing things that allow other people to make reads imo (early voting etc). he's thrown some sus on people for reasons, i like the reasoning. he's kinda been a nice piece of bait. and Epi has been doing his Epi thing and I think it's caught some people out.

also i liked his "they're all village posts" response a lot a lot tbh

Do you think people should find Epignosis villagery? That's very strange to me

Asking this as someone who has played with someone who only posts gifs D1 and is aware of the fact wolves tend to push them

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:13 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:09 pm

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:02 pm colonialbob Can you expand on your thoughts on Sloonei wagon?

Majority of Sloonei voters are from off-site (I know Sloonei is a good player but we're not going to have the same attitude towards Sloonei that Syndicate players are, nor has he represented a strong intention to hardcore solve the game)

So I don't think your take that it's an opportunistic attempt to remove the strongest player around is accurate. Syndicate players (or rather, you and DDL that I recall) have generally been like 'gotta give Sloonei a d1 pass', which is stranger to me and even TMI-y given the dissonance between the respect given and Sloonei's investment

Is it normal for Sloonei to take d1s off?

so Sloonei is a player who's super townleader-y. lots of analysis, pushing and prodding, asking good questions, the lot. so for one thing he's a super strong asset for town if he's town. (even when he tunnels me hardcore )

however, that playstyle is understandably tiring, and I've played in several games with ol' sloondog where he clearly did not want to put forth that effort. he was still helpful, still contributed, and importantly was still town. this game so far reminds me strongly of those games. I can totally see him choosing that style for this giant wacky game.

Can you point me to examples of the bolded? (In this game)

I agree with you that he would do this as villager for the reasoning he's supplied (semis coming up) fwiw. I think the style itself is fairly NAI, but I would like your opinion on the thoughts he's given a lot

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:05 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:59 pm

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:55 pm @Adam_ I'm struggling to find wolfy people I think have a better chance of being a wagon. I do partially blame the thunderdome.

The votes are honest to god terrible and I don't expect them to improve at this time of night

Think you're best off staying on Sloonei and following your heart among Martin/AWESOME/speedchuck, or forming a low poster vanity wagon I guess but half of them are unvotable (gonna have to go through those at some point actually)

Or parking on the thunderdome, but there are too many votes there already.

Not gonna ask cayvie/beeboy when I lack reads there myself

why sloonei though, this is "i'm good but i don't want to commit my life to this game" sloonei, definitely reading as town to me

x-post

(kinda, knowing you think Sloonei himself is town informs my read on your opinion of Sloonei's wagon, but my concern was more your opinion of the wagon)

Bizarre and anti-consensus reads on his shooters with zero explanation combined with defeated posting and bad ratio of reads:other stuff

I generally ignore 'I'm getting killed because I'm not town leader' stuff because it's not readable to me. No one voting Sloonei expects wallposts from Sloonei here except maybe Hyena(?)

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:02 pm colonialbob Can you expand on your thoughts on Sloonei wagon?

Majority of Sloonei voters are from off-site (I know Sloonei is a good player but we're not going to have the same attitude towards Sloonei that Syndicate players are, nor has he represented a strong intention to hardcore solve the game)

So I don't think your take that it's an opportunistic attempt to remove the strongest player around is accurate. Syndicate players (or rather, you and DDL that I recall) have generally been like 'gotta give Sloonei a d1 pass', which is stranger to me and even TMI-y given the dissonance between the respect given and Sloonei's investment

Is it normal for Sloonei to take d1s off?

jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:55 pm @Adam_ I'm struggling to find wolfy people I think have a better chance of being a wagon. I do partially blame the thunderdome.

The votes are honest to god terrible and I don't expect them to improve at this time of night

Think you're best off staying on Sloonei and following your heart among Martin/AWESOME/speedchuck, or forming a low poster vanity wagon I guess but half of them are unvotable (gonna have to go through those at some point actually)

Or parking on the thunderdome, but there are too many votes there already.

Not gonna ask cayvie/beeboy when I lack reads there myself

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:55 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:35 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:58 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:52 pm i don't know what the fuck i am doing so i will be sheeping maple unless i disagree

Just for the record, shooting me would specifically disagree with Maple as of now.

Also for the record in my one previous game with Punchy he played hyper paranoid about what literally everyone else in the town was reading as our towniest town...and then openwolf vigged said towniest town right in front of us. Much to my shame he fucking got away with it because his stubborn paranoia had seemed so real.

If he insists on going through with this, when I flip green kill him.

interesting indeed

(although idk if you're towniest town at all)

I'm not. The guy Punchy shot in Catan was.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:58 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:52 pm i don't know what the fuck i am doing so i will be sheeping maple unless i disagree

Just for the record, shooting me would specifically disagree with Maple as of now.

Also for the record in my one previous game with Punchy he played hyper paranoid about what literally everyone else in the town was reading as our towniest town...and then openwolf vigged said towniest town right in front of us. Much to my shame he fucking got away with it because his stubborn paranoia had seemed so real.

If he insists on going through with this, when I flip green kill him.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:12 pm I did not realize that was an AM on the poll instead of PM. Mac really went and stuck us all on Australia’s time.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:56 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:43 pm @Epignosis in one word, how would you describe this game so far?

That’s not the gif I wanted.

It’s never a bad time for a fuck Joe West gif

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:06 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:03 pm i felt absolutely no emotion from sabie12 iso

wolf?

I was roleplaying my character because that's part of the fun of this game isn't it?

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:04 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:04 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:01 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:01 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:44 pm I feel like half of the names I read in the thread aren’t even real players. You could probably convince me there’s someone in this game named Denim_Horse if you wanted to

i will sheep you for this joke. who should i move my ddl vote to

you should move the punchy vote too

y tho

bc i'm town -people who play games with me sometimes

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:01 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:01 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:44 pm I feel like half of the names I read in the thread aren’t even real players. You could probably convince me there’s someone in this game named Denim_Horse if you wanted to

i will sheep you for this joke. who should i move my ddl vote to

you should move the punchy vote too

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:44 pm I feel like half of the names I read in the thread aren’t even real players. You could probably convince me there’s someone in this game named Denim_Horse if you wanted to