The Syndicate

gg to the other players and hosts

Also woo, I feel vindicated with my returning NKA analysis on why one of Juliets/112/Jack had to have been scum.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:06 am Yeah, I'm not rolehinting or roleclaiming. It's against the rules.

Fairly certain that merely claiming to have started with a power without any other specifications is not against the rules in regards to rolehinting or roleclaiming.

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:44 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:40 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:38 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:13 am @Lady LambdaDelta @Jackofhearts2005 @@Quin

Alright time to claim you three. Did any of you start as a power role? That is all I'm asking, nothing about point totals, just did you start as a power role?

There should be a fairly obvious purpose for this when coupled with previous statements.
If my role isn't already obvious after all the effort I've put into spelling it out, it'll be much more fun never talking about it again.
Mind dragging up the posts in particular? Haven't exactly read back through the pages I missed yet and having it highlighted would be appreciated.
Just ISO me. I don't have that many posts.

Dude it's 2 am and I have had a stressful night. Please just point out the posts.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:05 pm Welcome to The Great Team Building Exercise of Inception Mafia

So firstly I'm not gonna force anyone to do this but it sounds like a fun idea so I'm gonna do it and if you like the idea then do it as well.

So, I just put the playerlist through random.org. I have created five random groups of six players. Your goal is to communicate only with the players inside of your group for ONE hour. Given where we're at with timezones I think coordinating it across all the players is probably impossible so make that hour whichever hour that you want. Hell if you want to just spend the rest of the day focused on these five players that's fine. Hell even if you just want to give them a cursory look to have some players to hone in on making reads on you can do that too. Basically it's just going to force people to look directly at a smaller set of players. This should help you read these people, perhaps find some townies to work with, hell maybe you'll make some friends even I don't fucking know.

Here are the lists;

Group 1 -
@Benson
@TonyStarkPrime
@Dragomir
@Quin
@Rej
@Lady LambdaDelta

Group 2 -

@MacDougall
@iaafr
@Dom
@Creature
@Long Con
@Trustworthy Liberal

Group 3 -

@112
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@nutella
@Epignosis
@DFaraday
@novaselinenever

Group 4 -

@Jackofhearts2005
@Spiny Creature
@sprityo
@Pawn Lelouch
@vanity.
@Hyena

Group 5 -

@Elephant
@juliets
@Michelle
@Evenstar
@Master Radishes
@Texas Cloverleaf

Knock yourselves out.

Was going back through Quin's ISO and noticed something. Mac + LC = 2 in a group. Elephant + Eva = 2 in a group. Dragomir + Quin/LLD in a group = 2 Would Mac have been blatant enough to have that pattern of 2 wolves per groups so that they could try and direct the conversation more within those groups? Possibly, need to look into this more, still it's a mildly good look for Jack.

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:38 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:13 am @Lady LambdaDelta @Jackofhearts2005 @@Quin

Alright time to claim you three. Did any of you start as a power role? That is all I'm asking, nothing about point totals, just did you start as a power role?

There should be a fairly obvious purpose for this when coupled with previous statements.
If my role isn't already obvious after all the effort I've put into spelling it out, it'll be much more fun never talking about it again.

Mind dragging up the posts in particular? Haven't exactly read back through the pages I missed yet and having it highlighted would be appreciated.

Actually this is within the bounds of the rules from my view so I'll stop being coy and there is no benefit to it. I know for certain that Juliets is a town aligned power role. I am another one. We generally agree that Radish is likely 3P.

So there is 3 players left and 1 town power role in the wild. The last two slots being vanilla and goon respectively. Here's how this works, whoever is town power role claim that you are. If you are not counter claimed then this turns into a 50-50 between the other two players with you clear. If you are counterclaimed then it turns into a 50-50 with you and the CCing player, the unclaimed is town VT.

This way no matter what we reduce the odds from a 1/3 before inputting evidence into a 1/2. The only way this could mess up is if a town player lies, do not be that person who makes our job harder than it needs to be.

Does this make sense to everyone?

[mention]Lady LambdaDelta[/mention] [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] @[mention]Quin[/mention]

Alright time to claim you three. Did any of you start as a power role? That is all I'm asking, nothing about point totals, just did you start as a power role?

There should be a fairly obvious purpose for this when coupled with previous statements.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:06 pm Okay, I'll remove a bit of tinfoil from people. I can confirm Juliets as town, make of that as you will. That scenario can officially never exist.

That scenario meaning scum Juliets and 3p is heavily unlikely.

Okay, I'll remove a bit of tinfoil from people. I can confirm Juliets as town, make of that as you will. That scenario can officially never exist.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:43 pm Guys I'm at the hospital with dad who is in critical condition. Don't know when I'll be home.

Here's hoping for his recovery and take as long as you need. That is vastly more important.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:11 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:16 am @Quin These are the 6 roles that are listed. We haven't gotten the goon.

Janitor
Role Cop
Godfather
Strongman
Roleblocker
Vanilla
Well pretty sure that a blocker style role still exists right now in some form.

Or wait, I'm dumb. Ignore the me that just woke up.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:16 am @Quin These are the 6 roles that are listed. We haven't gotten the goon.

Janitor
Role Cop
Godfather
Strongman
Roleblocker
Vanilla

Well pretty sure that a blocker style role still exists right now in some form.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:37 pm @Pawn Lelouch out of those 3, do you have anyone that stands out to you as scum?

Hm, LLD is the easy route but I need to look over Jack again.

Eva defended him hard in the lower levels when everyone was scum reading him. The argument that literally no one was TRing him so he must be town isn't a good one but there was a significant amount of people I was scumreading there and his posting picked up soon after so I didn't push on it.

While it could be her creating false flip associations Jack never struck me as the hardest town regardless and fits within my viewpoint of the TL kill. I need to ISO him + TL more to see his arguments and TL's views to fully decide but I should be boarding the plane soon and thus don't have the proper amount of time.

So wolf pretty much has to be within Jack/LLD/Quin off of those left.

When it comes down to it, Juliets and Radishes didn't need to choose those votes twice over, there's no real need for it. Could still be 3p but I don't care about that right now, I'm in the mood for grabbing a pelt.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:53 pm lol forgot pawn was alive

juliets- leaning colin for my vote, but it's up in the air

Like same for the earlier bit.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:47 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:43 pm And yeah, Juliets + MR look gucci off those. While Jack, LLD, 112, and myself have some decent votes none of us don't have a clear enough section to clear imo.

Colin + Quin just have no real good votes at all from what I can see so far.
Quin has that one Day 1 vote for Evenstar, though I can't remember when he voted. If it was late he knew she wasn't going to go down.

Even if it was early the odds of her going down were minimal. That isn't anywhere near close enough for it to count imo.

And yeah, Juliets + MR look gucci off those. While Jack, LLD, 112, and myself have some decent votes none of us don't have a clear enough section to clear imo.

Colin + Quin just have no real good votes at all from what I can see so far.

So has Colin done anything good? Real question.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:51 pm 3P!112 has been trying to imitate their town game but without being too strong a voice. This makes sense.

3P!LLD has been laying low on purpose to avoid being NKed for being a strong player, and using tunnely reads to avoid suspicion for being a wolf. This...could make sense? @Pawn Lelouch ?

3P!Colin is doing his best to pin it on me, since I've been the main suspect. This makes sense.

3P!Quin has been trying to imply something about his role that doesn't exist and otherwise is laying low to avoid being noticed. This makes sense.

3P!Jack is relying on his wacky meme-y style of play to carry him through avoidance of lynches and NKs. This...could make sense, but is not where I go to first.

3P!Pawn has played a fucking strange game. At the very least, he doesn't forget about the game. And if that's a lie, it was a bad decision because he's been a lynch target a lot and has gotten a bit lucky with Michelle's possible clear.

3P!Juliets deserves to win for solid townsiding play.

112, Colin, Quin, and maybe LLD are my top 3P guesses, I think.

Really narrows it down.

Nah, LLD does that regardless of alignment. As 3p or town it's what you see is what you get. Hate the game setup and just get demotivated in terms of playing. As scum it's probably still true to an extent, just having the weight taken off by teammates and all that.

Like none of that damns or clears her based on what I know of her personality or playstyle essentially, though she is already decently low on the list.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:49 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:48 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:21 pm Pawn,

A) I don't count 112 as in our group. Jack/Juliets/me have been the most active and engaged players of those remaining; of the rest, 112 makes more occasional appearances than some, perhaps, but is definitely more active today than in previous phases.

B) TL was in a three-way tie until I switched last minute to LC. I don't know what that adds to your analysis (I just got home and have only skimmed it) but it might be useful info.

Also, Juliets was hard on LC as I recall. Juliets is likely not a wolf.
Will check this later today if I j just don't collapse in bed after class. Relevant pages if possible would be amazing.
Pawn EOD is this evening at 6:00 eastern.

Fuck. :/

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:21 pm Pawn,

A) I don't count 112 as in our group. Jack/Juliets/me have been the most active and engaged players of those remaining; of the rest, 112 makes more occasional appearances than some, perhaps, but is definitely more active today than in previous phases.

B) TL was in a three-way tie until I switched last minute to LC. I don't know what that adds to your analysis (I just got home and have only skimmed it) but it might be useful info.

Also, Juliets was hard on LC as I recall. Juliets is likely not a wolf.

Will check this later today if I j just don't collapse in bed after class. Relevant pages if possible would be amazing.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:08 pm @Pawn Lelouch you might want to look at the voting too. All three of MR,Jack and me voted Mac last phase, and MR and I voted Long Con the phase before. Busing two scum in a row when their numbers are dwindling makes no sense to me.

And you and Jack only make up 2 of the 3 within that group, 112 still exists. And will take a look at the vote trains then in a bit. Need to see if it was already going to happen or if it was a case of either of you being the main cause of boosting the lynch to fruition.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:01 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:00 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:47 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:41 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:33 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:30 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:21 pm Well we found Mac and Long Con as scum so any associative reads you have will be helpful. Some people think you are scum or the 3P. Right now we're trying to find who to lynch today and we are all over the map. No one has a strong feeling about a candidate. I'm very glad you're back.
Ey, glad I was right on Longcon. And while Mac wasn't my highest candidate him flipping scum after Epi flipped town doesn't surprise me. I thought there was one scum there, I just got the alignments flipped.

So the living players are you, MR, Quin, Colin, LLD, 112, Jack, and myself.

What hints had TL dropped regarding his role? Scum rolecop died N5 so they didn't ID him that way, no way they hold off otherwise. So trying to see potential motives there.
Oh TL had been hinting at his role during the time we were on level 1 but he had been identified as a vig with no points left so I don't really understand why the mafia would kill him.
2 options are likely. 1, they thought he had points left and was biding his time. This seems rather unlikely for them to think based on kill numbers and so it can be ruled out.

This leaves scum trying to avoid killing those who closely resemble them, to provide cover for themselves. This primarily is a factor in late game with competency and activity levels. So what was TL's activity rates + TR/SR read from thread consensus at the time?
TLib wasn't very active at all. The reads were somewhat mixed iirc. Maybe Radishes or Jack has a better memory. I know I def wasn't reading him as bad, I was sure he was the vig with no points because of everything he had said.
So fairly certain then that it spews one of you/Jack/112 scum then, MR could be 3P still but he isn't a wolf. Too much stuff that he didn't have to do as a wolf. Need to look more in depth to figure out which of you three it is though.
Uhhh I don't understand how that spews one of the 3 of us wolf but ok.

At that point in time there should be no need for scum to doc dodge. This is a point based game, in any sane world the doctor has used up all of their points so if they have any chance to kill town leaders they take it. So why Tlib? The point total argument fits there for him especially since he was always in the top layer.

So his powers blatantly didn't matter by then and he wasn't a leader or even a strong TR for people. So the only reason I could consider his death making any sense is that scum didn't want to kill their cover. One key trait in good scum play is knowing how to properly prioritize targets.

And one key trait for scum to always remember is that in game they should not kill those who are like them without a strong reason for it (Generally applying to stronger players). Since if they do so, it leads to people wondering why they are still alive past a certain point, meaning the scum player will just die eventually. Scum wants to avoid this situation coming about, especially this late in the game, since there are still some tankable deaths. So scum avoids killing within their group, within this case the active players. That gives a possible playerbase of 4 and again, MR is never wolf, meaning that it leaves 3 players vying for a likely wolf slot.

Not stated the most coherent due to being tired but this is that rough gist.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:47 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:41 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:33 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:30 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:21 pm Well we found Mac and Long Con as scum so any associative reads you have will be helpful. Some people think you are scum or the 3P. Right now we're trying to find who to lynch today and we are all over the map. No one has a strong feeling about a candidate. I'm very glad you're back.
Ey, glad I was right on Longcon. And while Mac wasn't my highest candidate him flipping scum after Epi flipped town doesn't surprise me. I thought there was one scum there, I just got the alignments flipped.

So the living players are you, MR, Quin, Colin, LLD, 112, Jack, and myself.

What hints had TL dropped regarding his role? Scum rolecop died N5 so they didn't ID him that way, no way they hold off otherwise. So trying to see potential motives there.
Oh TL had been hinting at his role during the time we were on level 1 but he had been identified as a vig with no points left so I don't really understand why the mafia would kill him.
2 options are likely. 1, they thought he had points left and was biding his time. This seems rather unlikely for them to think based on kill numbers and so it can be ruled out.

This leaves scum trying to avoid killing those who closely resemble them, to provide cover for themselves. This primarily is a factor in late game with competency and activity levels. So what was TL's activity rates + TR/SR read from thread consensus at the time?
TLib wasn't very active at all. The reads were somewhat mixed iirc. Maybe Radishes or Jack has a better memory. I know I def wasn't reading him as bad, I was sure he was the vig with no points because of everything he had said.

So fairly certain then that it spews one of you/Jack/112 scum then, MR could be 3P still but he isn't a wolf. Too much stuff that he didn't have to do as a wolf. Need to look more in depth to figure out which of you three it is though.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:36 pm Wb Pawn.

Are you mafia?

Nope, wouldn't have forgotten about the game if I was.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:33 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:30 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:21 pm Well we found Mac and Long Con as scum so any associative reads you have will be helpful. Some people think you are scum or the 3P. Right now we're trying to find who to lynch today and we are all over the map. No one has a strong feeling about a candidate. I'm very glad you're back.
Ey, glad I was right on Longcon. And while Mac wasn't my highest candidate him flipping scum after Epi flipped town doesn't surprise me. I thought there was one scum there, I just got the alignments flipped.

So the living players are you, MR, Quin, Colin, LLD, 112, Jack, and myself.

What hints had TL dropped regarding his role? Scum rolecop died N5 so they didn't ID him that way, no way they hold off otherwise. So trying to see potential motives there.
Oh TL had been hinting at his role during the time we were on level 1 but he had been identified as a vig with no points left so I don't really understand why the mafia would kill him.

2 options are likely. 1, they thought he had points left and was biding his time. This seems rather unlikely for them to think based on kill numbers and so it can be ruled out.

This leaves scum trying to avoid killing those who closely resemble them, to provide cover for themselves. This primarily is a factor in late game with competency and activity levels. So what was TL's activity rates + TR/SR read from thread consensus at the time?

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:21 pm Well we found Mac and Long Con as scum so any associative reads you have will be helpful. Some people think you are scum or the 3P. Right now we're trying to find who to lynch today and we are all over the map. No one has a strong feeling about a candidate. I'm very glad you're back.

Ey, glad I was right on Longcon. And while Mac wasn't my highest candidate him flipping scum after Epi flipped town doesn't surprise me. I thought there was one scum there, I just got the alignments flipped.

So the living players are you, MR, Quin, Colin, LLD, 112, Jack, and myself.

What hints had TL dropped regarding his role? Scum rolecop died N5 so they didn't ID him that way, no way they hold off otherwise. So trying to see potential motives there.

So hi. *waves*

Apologies, I might have, just a teensy bit forgotten this game existed until JJJ sent me a PM last night.

Took me until now to finish my term paper but I'm free for a bit till I collapse in my bed after school. Can someone give me tl;dr while I start trying to catch up through reading through as well?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:42 pm At least cast a vote, Pawn.

[VOTE: MrRadishes] aubergine
There, at this point fairly certain MR isn't town. Likely Mal's equiv if I had to give a guess.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:40 pm I'd have ten pages done in a couple of hours. Pff.

And I am a slow typer, especially when my hands are numb from lack of heat. :v

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:43 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:46 pm I currently have zero incentive to listen to anything Master Radishes has to say moving forward, and neither do the other civilians.
Yeah I just don't get it. I thought he was town but I'm back to thinking he's an unfriendly 3rd party.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:04 pm juliets, forgive me if you've said this, but it's Friday and I'm tired.

How do you figure MacDougall is a civilian?
Give me a bit.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:07 pm I'm also very troubled that Pawn voted Hyena and has had nothing to say today. There is no silencer.
I'm troubled too but these things keep coming to mind:

- he seems to be completely disengaged from the game from at least one post I caught when I looked at his ISO due to some issue - I'll see if I can find the post

- he is playing in the hydra tournament and stated point blank that it was more important than this game to him

- Michelle town read him but I know this is pretty weak given I don't think she checked all three town that she named

So I'm not even sure he's playing anymore and if he's not, I don't know how to read that.

Looks in, waves hi, shrugs, pops back out to get back to 10 pages of essays by Monday.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:59 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:18 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:15 am @Long Con @MacDougall @112 @coliniscool @Quin @lady lambdadelta @Jackofhearts2005 @sprityo @Trustworthy Liberal @Dom @Epignosis

are you guys up for a hyena wagon today hes really scummy and pushed vanity and nutella and like actually no scum except drago which fits with the whole "get cred, use it" idea evenstar got from lld's guide

i think
Reminder that he went on Drago literally last minute after I got on his case for tying the votes up in favor of lynching 112. He did not want to vote up Drago. Look at the timing of those interactions, so even the Drago credit is nonexistent at best.
I did a vote analysis of that EOD 1 fiasco if you wanna check it out. I’m gonna look at it again myself and double check but if I’m not wrong it was tied up, then hyena and LC voted last second at the same time

Yes it was tied up since Hyena unvoted to tie them after iaafr had unvoted 112 if I remember right. Correcting something bad he had done under duress isn't something that deserves any credit.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:11 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:10 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:08 pm I have the voting for November 10th for my own use and will post it if anyone wants it.

Also what is everyone making of Eva's letter? Obviously some of it was bullshit, maybe all of it. Why would she put a letter to her team in the game thread for example.
I would like the votes.

Also what letter did I miss something obvious again?
Derpclear rejected
I don't want a God dam deep clear I've said this a many times now look at my points and agree or disagree

@iaafr Town off of this post alone.

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:15 am @Long Con @MacDougall @112 @coliniscool @Quin @lady lambdadelta @Jackofhearts2005 @sprityo @Trustworthy Liberal @Dom @Epignosis

are you guys up for a hyena wagon today hes really scummy and pushed vanity and nutella and like actually no scum except drago which fits with the whole "get cred, use it" idea evenstar got from lld's guide

i think

Reminder that he went on Drago literally last minute after I got on his case for tying the votes up in favor of lynching 112. He did not want to vote up Drago. Look at the timing of those interactions, so even the Drago credit is nonexistent at best.

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:04 am ok read the hyena iso just now and hes probably scum and pawns probably town

ikr. Epi is bad, don't get me wrong. Hyena is just worse imo.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:59 pm You're so transparent.

It's called laziness and apathy actually.

Honestly just lynch Hyena. He's probs mafia off of Elephant.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:11 pm Is anyone fucking reading my shit or should I just go watch football?

Reading, just also in two other games at the same time.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:55 pm did we just lose to some sort of Michelle team

No, Michelle probably just town at this point.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:35 pm I still prefere Elephant lynch tbh

His flip will show Hyena's AI, that comes in other day.

I say again, lynching in Drago's wagon ia not a good thing.

Hyena was literally a last half minute voter, he really isn't a player that can be considered a real Drago voter in terms of it being a positive for their alignment.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:15 pm We out here lynchen 112 now. Get on this elite level y'all.

Nah, I'm content with my animal lynch. 112 has some scum equity, sure. Hyena has more.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:05 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:02 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:01 pm Dom, pawns involvement here should give you pause...?
Feels like not caring who is on the lynch. Dom scum means Hyena town after this.
eh idk this post is pretty weak I dont really trust you anymore either

I mean if you're scum you definitely are hitting tons of notes that could pocket me but yea having a harder and harder time ruling it out and I've been finding Dom townier over time

*shrug* You can think what you want, I'm busy trying to prepare my mentee player for our game that starts tomorrow and praying we don't roll scum since Wallis isn't prepped for it.

I'm not exactly trying to make the in depth arguments to support my views. I'll just state them with a bit to lead into my thoughts.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:01 pm Dom, pawns involvement here should give you pause...?

Feels like not caring who is on the lynch. Dom scum means Hyena town after this.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:55 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:49 pm can we cfd hyena lol
I kinda wanna

Let's do it.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:49 pm can we cfd hyena lol

Again, I have no issue with that, he is still scummy in my eyes. I reiterate that nothing has changed my mind there.

Though LC is very tempting since I see nothing townie about them from 5 day of work. Yeah, low posting means less info to work with but the fact that there is still nothing there isn't good.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:35 pm where is @Pawn Lelouch anyway

help me out here, this dayend is being kinda crazy

Literally just woke up again and catching up through the posts now.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:27 am I've seen Pawn's name appear at the bottom of my screen. Hi Pawn. I actually have to leave now though.

Perfect, I can go back to sleep guilt free!

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:22 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:14 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:09 am I'm supposed to be getting work done but I'm reading random ISOs instead.

Pawn's mafia isn't he?
I can only read Pawn villager after our dream level posts.
Actually, I'd love you to ISO Pawn again (D1) and give me your thoughts on this read. You're basically lock town for me and I totally get your Elephant read even if I have a few reservations still. I think we're reading this game similarly overall.

Pawn kept Drago floating around as a scum option, voted him early, and really doesn't justify it well. In fact, at one point he said he thought it likely Drago was just roleplaying his character (as opposed to acting scummy) but wanted him gone for being a 'creep'. He also keeps insisting the Nanook kill was to frame him/Eva, which is just such a leap in logic. He's been hard-defending Eva since D1 too, and we know my thoughts on her.

When you have time and the frame of mind, give it a reconsider.

Just woke up for a bit before I go back to sleep and no. You're misconstruing what I said. I said Drago being a creep in terms of how he was hitting on Eva was likely him trying to RP his role's fluff, since I was trying to be nice (and frankly hoping it was just that) and give him an out on the behavior socially.

That was in regards to the creeping, not anything else in regards to how I read him in terms of scum or town and that distinction was very clear.

I still expect to be right on the Nook kill choice reasoning over iaafr or the like as a target.

And well yeah, she's towniest of towns in my book and you are someone with a 50/50 chance of being scum. You may not agree with me, but it is my view.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:42 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:35 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:31 am Good, you acknowledge it is. Even if LLD is scum, and with how much I agree with her general sentiments I'm considering it super likely. It isn’t her modeling off you, it’s genuine annoyance regardless of alignment.
*not considering it super likely

One missing word changes that sentence's meaning a lot.
morning Pawn, I know my message was long ago, so i'll ask again, what do you think about Elephant and Dom who are my top SRs?

Already heavily agree with Dom, need to read more Elephant first. Will do so once I finish Longcon.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:35 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:32 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:24 am alright just iso'ed elephant to the point of finding out he's mendel

don't think he's a good lynch today

would much rather do long con still
Wait, is he actually mendel?
are you actually salty too? if i read the layer you were in for the last phase will i find you being salty?

im still repeatedly paranoid on you but id like to trust you but i feel like you just dont push quite hard enough at finding a lead i can totally mindmeld with u on and tunnel hard

i mean we kinda tunneled epi/dom together and then when you were gone i kinda turned on you again and just townread epi/dom again and now im torn on all 3 of you again it kind of sucks

Oh extremely so. I've just vented a significant amount of it to JJJ rather than in thread.

And no, I kinda just didn't post honestly. Mostly gave a rundown of the day to the people in there and then did some basic meming + telling people to vote Colin. That's really it.

And frankly welcome to the combo of laziness and playing while helping run a game, all tied into a little knot with essays. Add in the fact that there was so many scummy players in my mind and I felt extremely hindered by the mechanics?

Past a certain point I just went here is my rough POE I am fine with lynching them and kinda just went away since it wasn't worth the stress or frustration. Sorry for not helping push more but frankly this game just didn't feel worth investing in more to go that deep.

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