The Syndicate

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Neon wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 10:46 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:56 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:53 am
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 11:15 pm I disagree with Neon's read on me, obviously, but I think the tunnel at least feels sincere. Ted clinging to my wagon feels much more ho-hum. Like they're just doing it to seem productive.
Calling my push on you a tunnel is a bit misleading I'm not really pushing you much and I'm gonna move my vote after catch up lol
What changed?
Nothing really but if nobody else agrees I'm not gonna bother pushing that

I don't like this post. PSV is currently tied for the lead.

Neon wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:53 am
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 11:15 pm I disagree with Neon's read on me, obviously, but I think the tunnel at least feels sincere. Ted clinging to my wagon feels much more ho-hum. Like they're just doing it to seem productive.
Calling my push on you a tunnel is a bit misleading I'm not really pushing you much and I'm gonna move my vote after catch up lol

What changed?

Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 12:02 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 11:49 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:04 pm Camilla

Dennis
SPF

PSV
pyxxy
Neon
Seanzie

Lemonfairy
falcon
Kate
SixString
Sig

Ted

Roughly where I am for like a halfday mark.

Kind of really doubt PSV ever flips W here unless both of his partners are just refusing to play the game since they've basically been the top wagon this entire game, tbh. Mostly confident on my reads on Dennis/SPF even if they're faint-ish being that this has been a fairly light game.
Tell me about Kate and Lemonfairy.
I've wolfed with Lemonfairy and against her once each time last month.

When she was a wolf she kind of just floated around the thread aimlessly and when poked she would churn out a readlist with no form of lead-up to it while when she was a villager she kind of just obssessed over a slot, wolfread it, and started solving around the slot.

I feel like the way that she's trying to solve the game is a 1:1 replica of how she tried to solve in her towngame so I'm pretty confident that she's villaging here.

Kate I've already explained it. It's a faint read but with how much of the thread feels villagery I don't think we're in a game-state where wolves have much influence.

I wish I could have heard your response on lemonfairy when you first made the post, but oh well.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:58 pm to be honest it feels to me like one of those games where the wolves are primarily in the lower posters/people with zero presence which makes it uniquely hard to find a wolfread that i feel confident about

it also generally just feels like not enough has happened for me to have a strong understanding of the current gamestate

Who exactly are the lower posters/people with zero presence?

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:06 pm hmmm pyxxy is fine probably
the 180 on Camilla feels reasonable
not much on everyone else

oh no wait they thought falcon was sus

Can you quote the posts you're talking about? I find it hard to follow.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:23 pm I remember Seanzie was the first to push PSV and I think they were also the first to back off
do you think it could be theatre?

no.

Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:23 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 4:22 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:29 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:25 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:19 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:12 pm [VOTE: pyxxy ] aubergine
Go on

Cause he did this once in a game as town, where he drops in and says just a list, no explanation, and I (maf) pushed a miselim on him

Idk why tf he does it, but it's made me freak out on his slot when he does it and I'm having flashbacks
The list feels kind of pointless as it has tints of busywork since it doesn't really say anything about the game-state at all.

I want actual content from him since we're already beyond the RVS stage of the game.
What do you think of other people who haven't given content yet

Like I have hardly given any content, I totally ignores the D0 arguments (or at least didn't comment), but you seemingly townlean me
I also townlean you. You're looking like your early civ meta.
Kate could technically be a wolf that could be posting, tbh.

Her only content was basically reiterating a townread on Dennis based on meta which is frankly one of the easiest and safest things to do as a wolf, tbh.

What is the first sentence trying to communicate?

Worth noting that Kate is Dennis' mom, so this is a little more than meta, but sure.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:13 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:09 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:05 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:01 pm [VOTE: SixStrings] aubergine
is this just another placeholder kind of vote for more content or a real vote
Content vote since Six only had a single post and that was his confirmation.

Current wagons are shit though since I feel like PSV is just a villager and I'm V, so meh.
hmmm fair

why is PSV a villager? did I miss something?

The way they pushed back against my initial push on them felt good. I pushed them, and made the sort of posts that would scare wolves, and then stopped engaging, and instead of them accepting that and enjoying the silence, they pushed me about another thing.

Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:04 pm Camilla

Dennis
SPF

PSV
pyxxy
Neon
Seanzie

Lemonfairy
falcon
Kate
SixString
Sig

Ted

Roughly where I am for like a halfday mark.

Kind of really doubt PSV ever flips W here unless both of his partners are just refusing to play the game since they've basically been the top wagon this entire game, tbh. Mostly confident on my reads on Dennis/SPF even if they're faint-ish being that this has been a fairly light game.

Tell me about Kate and Lemonfairy.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:03 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 7:26 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 6:08 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
Tell me more.
didn't like how you overstated your reads (announcing that you solved the game) when the reason you gave was very lackluster in comparison
I think the confidence you initially displayed feels fake and fake bravado is an easy way to mask other emotions and look like you're invested in your reads more than you actually are

Well, Lemonfairy has me figured out better than half the people I've played a dozen games with.

Also, Lemon is town.

Also, this is a pocket attempt.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 6:08 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Tell me more.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 6:17 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:14 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:04 pm [VOTE: dennis ] aubergine

his interactions seem to me to be designed with ulterior motives in mind

let me know if he’s just generally super friendly tho. still feel like the way he’s going about it to influence somehow rather than just doing it for the sake of being friendly
Which interactions in particular are you talking about?

Dennis is friendly, but idk if I would say "super friendly".

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 2:55 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:45 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:43 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 pm fwiw i feel like giving reads rn would be a LEAK due to 2 non posters

but i’ll add a wolfy remark of i kinda like where things are headed and have noticed nothing that i was going “huh wat” in my head to

a bit of a thing i spotted was alice stating a rand v read on seanzie and then making a post to spf saying she shouldn’t give him an easy villa pass, gth it feels bad but if i’m thinking about it, i don’t see what point it accomplishes as a wolf. might be a villagery progression
What do you mean by you like where things are headed?
I don’t disagree with any reads stated etc is what i meant, tho i didn’t read with too much caution

i’m a very lazy d1 player. and this isn’t even d1 yet tbh
This guy gets me
this one is probably the most relevant one

just felt like a combination of chumminess while also potentially establishing the fact that he will lay it low in the beginning by using me as a propeller for it, indirectly. (associating his play with that of a villager)

rather than just stating it out loud that he won't be solving early, or just completely saying nothing about it and just say it if he gets prodded with it

has a hint of getting ahead of the curve to me a bit

This doesn't really move my Dennis needle at all.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:05 am
Camilla wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:33 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:24 pm also i actually went back and looked at the practice game that you're referring to: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ame-Thread (this one, right?), and your tone seems completely normal to me. i don't get the sense that you were trying to change the way you sound at all, at least based on the first page of your ISO
And a slight V lean here for not taking my explanation about my tone at face value, tbh.

I don't get how you're not seeing my tone shift there? I tried intentionally to seem more jokingish/friendly there and got like 3 villagers on my wagon at RVS.
to be more specific i dont like how quickly Camilla conceded to calling me towny for interrogating her, when she is generally a lot more skeptical toward me and (to my memory) OMGUSed me very hard when i interrogated her on d1 of the CFC game we just played

felt a bit like she was trying to defuse my suspicions of her by calling me towny at a point when it wasn't really warranted by my questioning, especially since i was keeping my cards pretty close to my chest at that point and hadn't really posted much game related content

[VOTE: Camilla] aubergine

I also was kind of weirded out by Camilla's townread of me and their focus on the whole "3 names" thing, which kinda felt like just a way to justify/backtrack on the fact that they were pushing you for the same reason they townread me. Most people who first meet me default to scumreading me because I'm kind of aggressive, especially when getting the game going since I'm throwing shit at nothing.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:28 pm OK, so mental note: don't die in front of Kate when she's hungry

Well if any of us are every stranded and starving, you have my permission to eat me to stay alive.

The second mafia game I ever played was a cult game where everyone was vegan cannibals, and we ate the person who was elim'd. It was okay for our vegan lifestyle since we all gave consent to be eaten if we were voted out.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:04 pm [VOTE: dennis ] aubergine

his interactions seem to me to be designed with ulterior motives in mind

let me know if he’s just generally super friendly tho. still feel like the way he’s going about it to influence somehow rather than just doing it for the sake of being friendly

Which interactions in particular are you talking about?

Dennis is friendly, but idk if I would say "super friendly".

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:47 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:45 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:43 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 pm fwiw i feel like giving reads rn would be a LEAK due to 2 non posters

but i’ll add a wolfy remark of i kinda like where things are headed and have noticed nothing that i was going “huh wat” in my head to

a bit of a thing i spotted was alice stating a rand v read on seanzie and then making a post to spf saying she shouldn’t give him an easy villa pass, gth it feels bad but if i’m thinking about it, i don’t see what point it accomplishes as a wolf. might be a villagery progression
What do you mean by you like where things are headed?
I don’t disagree with any reads stated etc is what i meant, tho i didn’t read with too much caution

i’m a very lazy d1 player. and this isn’t even d1 yet tbh
I mean, Seanzie is TRing me and Neon is scumreading me so I'm not sure how you agree with both.

I rarely give townreads. You're fine, that's all I'll give.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:13 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:10 pm Seanzie >rand V, tbh.

I kind of already had a faint-ish read on him as I don't think a wolf going for an early-aggro play would poke at three people like that as just going after one would suffice without fearing much pushback.

His turn on PSV doesn't really feel like a move a wolf would do being that he could just capitalize on the push as he was being already TR'd over his aggression.
yah i agree, doesnt seem like he's interested in cultivating a positive image in the thread or making friends

I mean, I could always use more friends.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 11:33 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 11:09 am
Camilla wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:43 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:42 am
Camilla wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:19 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 11:59 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 11:56 pm
He said serious read, so I took it seriously. I find his reasoning lackluster.
do you think that says anything about his alignment?
May I know why you wanted to know why I selected those two people in particular?
tbh i didnt really care about the actual reason i was just trying to find an avenue to start game related conversation
This kind of doesn't seem like something you'd do as you normally show more inquisitiveness and curiosity than this, tbh.

What are you current thoughts on me even if they are faint?
Well dats cause SVS is a woofie.
I’m not even playing this game

wolfy pop-in.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 11:00 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 8:03 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:41 am
Camilla wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:18 am
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 11:56 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 11:36 pm There's a certain level of terseness and defensiveness displayed by PSV that caught my eye as everyone else kind of just shrugged off Seanzie's "suspicions" which felt more like a shitpost but PSV kind of just interpreted it in a serious manner.
He said serious read, so I took it seriously. I find his reasoning lackluster.
There was very little questioning of you and/or follow-up from him.

The suspicion's either a Mac-like reaction test or just a shitpost as I don't think it's sincere in the slightest.
Well see the thing is it's a reaction test but something tells me PSV is actually gonna get tunneled by Sean now.
*Checks to do list*

Make breakfast

Work out

Play guitar

Write final exams

tunnel PSV

*puts to do list away*

Wow, how did you know?
We have a history you and I. I have figured it out.

Also because I've been side eyeing PSVs reaction so I assume you would be... but worse.

FTR, it was a joke. What did you find sus about PSV's reaction?

I am making a concerted effort to not "tunnel" people when I can, but even if I wasn't, I thought PSV's reaction was fine.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:41 am
Camilla wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:18 am
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 11:56 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 11:36 pm There's a certain level of terseness and defensiveness displayed by PSV that caught my eye as everyone else kind of just shrugged off Seanzie's "suspicions" which felt more like a shitpost but PSV kind of just interpreted it in a serious manner.
He said serious read, so I took it seriously. I find his reasoning lackluster.
There was very little questioning of you and/or follow-up from him.

The suspicion's either a Mac-like reaction test or just a shitpost as I don't think it's sincere in the slightest.
Well see the thing is it's a reaction test but something tells me PSV is actually gonna get tunneled by Sean now.

*Checks to do list*

Make breakfast

Work out

Play guitar

Write final exams

tunnel PSV

*puts to do list away*

Wow, how did you know?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 10:42 pm seanzie is my first townread

Why?

Camilla wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:43 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:21 pm Bruhhh I need this game to have more content
Poke around Seanzie/PSV?

I’m taking it easy since this is my first game on the site, don’t expect me to get fired up until mid-ish d1.

Even if you aren't ready to get fired up, could you get an avatar? I find it much easier to keep track of everyone if everyone has an avatar.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:31 am Why does that make me scum though? Why can't I just have the same thought you do my lord.

Because I'm so good at this game I can tell the difference between people having thoughts and TMI.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:25 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:23 am
Neon wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 3:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:34 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:32 pm @Seanzie How are you drawing your conclusion? Do you not like Taylor Swift?
You entered with a song rather than a post. The first post is always the hardest for a wolf.
Why am I scum my lord?
Finally gettin' the respect I deserve.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 7:12 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 7:08 pm im mafia tbh
Checks out

Vote: SPF
This looks like partners af.
Intresting. Why?

Because I believe SPF, and I think you do too.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 3:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:34 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:32 pm @Seanzie How are you drawing your conclusion? Do you not like Taylor Swift?
You entered with a song rather than a post. The first post is always the hardest for a wolf.
Why am I scum my lord?

Finally gettin' the respect I deserve.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 7:12 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 7:08 pm im mafia tbh
Checks out

Vote: SPF

This looks like partners af.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:37 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:34 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:32 pm @Seanzie How are you drawing your conclusion? Do you not like Taylor Swift?
You entered with a song rather than a post. The first post is always the hardest for a wolf.
...really
I am a rule follower. I am abiding by the rules.

You seem quite worried about a page 1 read. I'd vote you if I could.

I decided to change my mind. Not so much about topic, but in terms of feel, I think this song hits it hard.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:32 pm @Seanzie How are you drawing your conclusion? Do you not like Taylor Swift?

You entered with a song rather than a post. The first post is always the hardest for a wolf.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:30 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:28 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:20 pm At least I'm not the only baby(ish) newcomer(ish) in this game. Camilla can be my friend, maybe.
I think this is the first time we've played outside of mashes?

I feel like the only time we've played together was in anni 2021 where I basically spent a big part of the game tinfoiling you and Arete lol.
...do I know you? Lol

Likely your avatar is causing confusion with you and Lumi.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:25 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:24 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:02 pm Okay, I solved the game.
Is it me?
It's you, SPF and PSV.

Serious read.
Don't target the abbreviations.

if the shoe fits...

Neon wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:02 pm Okay, I solved the game.
Is it me?

It's you, SPF and PSV.

Serious read.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:18 pm ...I have never considered BYOB a summer song. Maybe that's a skill issue omp

It's got the word "sunshine" in it.

Also my semester ended today, so kinda perfect day for the start of a summer game.

Camilla wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 7:38 pm Hi ^_^

Before I get started could I get informed of the phase lengths on this site and if post caps exist?

I normally play on MU so it'll take some time for me to adjust here. I'll get myself a PFP shortly.

I listened to this song today, and actually thought about it first, but decided to pivot to something else, I'm glad someone else thought of it though.

Okay, I solved the game.

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