The Syndicate

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:25 am And it turns out I still think Dizzy's town

If I get a good night's sleep before I die his game you might get an explanation but I mean just search "Alison" in his ISO lol

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:44 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:30 am

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:25 am And it turns out I still think Dizzy's town

If I get a good night's sleep before I die his game you might get an explanation but I mean just search "Alison" in his ISO lol

I just did this, and it didn't quite get me there. Still, if there's a specific micro-progression (new word) you're referring to similar to the ones you've pointed out about me, it'd be helpful if you could highlight it.

There's no one thing, the whole thing put together just feels really real

If you want one region to look at, maybe around that part Friday evening where Alison came back

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:50 am Around that part you can see it just turns into an avalanche of reasons Alison is a wolf
And not bs reasons

Wolves are more likely to be content with finding a small handful of reasons to bury someone, and just cling to those and call back to them whenever necessary, and it's also just a lot harder to do that to someone you know is town
And just unnecessary considering how quickly the Alison momentum built up

All looks like actually solving Alison

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:07 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:09 am @MacDougall, MR/Dizzy would very much affirm your original thought that the Alison chop was mafia-driven.

I would not require much persuading that this was the situation. I thought Dizzy was hella town at one point but the way he was acting while I was having big angry vibes with you and Hally was super scummy to me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:08 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:46 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:10 amno burn intended I am just trying to make you recognise the hypocrisy of claiming my play "leads nowhere" when your current play is to yolo a vote onto a town Mac

You're a possible chop. C4 is not. So it leads somewhere. Potentially. Your alignment is irrelevant.

If you want to understand my perspective. But if you want to moan, feel free.

this reminds me, i actually think mac’s moaning is king wolfy for him

when he’s v i feel like he gets motivated by pressure and is all “i’m gonna bitchslap the wokves now,” but his response here has felt kinda weaksauce so far

That's what I've been saying. He's moany, arguing points that doesn't matter and not really solving the game afaic.

But I almost feel like he's town playing his wolf meta, though I don't know why I feel this way.

now that I am confirmation biasing myself into this world I'd like to point out that this post is a scum claim

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:10 am It’s a rough post. Textbook TMI

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:10 am Imagine I have the energy to quote a bunch of stuff that dizzy said while I was fighting with Hally and Jay and pointed out how wolfy it is. Then agree with it plz.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:13 am Hally is townreading Dyslexicon because Dyslexicon is pushing her and "that is what Dyslexicon would do if they were town", but like actually let's be real. Hally is actually bleedingly obvious town and town Dyslexicon would have that read and not be pushing her lol. Hally is just levelling herself out of the easier read.

Also noting Dyslexicon isn't even voting her, so Hally is reading Dizzy town for pushing her even though Dizzy isn't even pushing her really.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:19 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:18 pm Obligatory

What if Mac/Jay are both town and the real scums are like Hally and/or Nook or something?

I will quote all the posts Mac mentioned a moment ago, but I want to highlight this one especially.

After Mac and I rip each other's heads off and Dizzy eventually settles into the town/town read, the first suspect to emerge as an alternative is... Hally? What?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:19 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:21 pm Gonna vote MR now because Alison is a better being and I don’t want us to seem teamed

oh wait this post is literally just dyslexicon in full fledged wolf claim taking the absolute piss mode isn't it lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:21 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:19 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:18 pm Obligatory

What if Mac/Jay are both town and the real scums are like Hally and/or Nook or something?

I will quote all the posts Mac mentioned a moment ago, but I want to highlight this one especially.

After Mac and I rip each other's heads off and Dizzy eventually settles into the town/town read, the first suspect to emerge as an alternative is... Hally? What?

If you go back you'll realise Dizzy was scumreading Hally prior and when I attacked you both their first reaction was to encourage me to vote her.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:10 am Imagine I have the energy to quote a bunch of stuff that dizzy said while I was fighting with Hally and Jay and pointed out how wolfy it is. Then agree with it plz.

Dizzy posts from the period in which Mac and I were fighting early in Day 2:

Spoiler: show

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:44 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:35 pm dizzy i really have no idea what your issue with me this game is

or just like your issue with everything in general even

You wouldn’t buy Alison’s trick as town. You are hesitant in making points that advance town. I just think it’s a decent chance you’re mafia, and I’m not going to get into a discussion about it with you. We can talk about other things.

Hopefully I get to read the game again during this day phase.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:43 pm Funny you say that Jay because I don't believe that either of you would view the day as having played out the way that it did and think I had anything to do with it, do you really think that Alison goes over day 1 without the mafia playing a significant role in her demise? I don't.

I played maybe the biggest part, and I could tell it was a mistake as it was happening heh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:46 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:43 pm Funny you say that Jay because I don't believe that either of you would view the day as having played out the way that it did and think I had anything to do with it, do you really think that Alison goes over day 1 without the mafia playing a significant role in her demise? I don't.

I played maybe the biggest part, and I could tell it was a mistake as it was happening heh

that isn't helping my point right now

But it’s true. Don’t really thing Jay is mafia. But what I think isn’t likely to be worth much

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:46 pm Furthermore I will add that nobody outright attacking me (the way Jay and Hally have done right now) d1 is a strong indicator that it's because I was pushing an incorrect POE and wasn't being a threat. Jay and Hally at multiple points exhibited TMI that I was town.

You were pushed a decent deal for a d1. You’re not making convincing points tbh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:50 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:49 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:44 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:35 pm dizzy i really have no idea what your issue with me this game is

or just like your issue with everything in general even

You wouldn’t buy Alison’s trick as town. You are hesitant in making points that advance town. I just think it’s a decent chance you’re mafia, and I’m not going to get into a discussion about it with you. We can talk about other things.

Hopefully I get to read the game again during this day phase.

why would i ever think alison would troll there? she’s like the least trolly person on the planet

i was actually kinda shocked she made that post when she flipped villager

I watched it in real time and was almost positive she was lying. It’s well within her wheelhouse.

Oh well. My brain wants to tunnel you so

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:51 pm Jimmay is town though. No more paranoia there for me.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:53 pm This is chaos and I’m adding to it. I love that for us.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

I’m voting Hally now.

You could join.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm I've never, in admittedly more limited than you might expect experience, seen Jay treat someone the way he's treating Mac now. I find it interesting and probably alignment indicative.

It's been a long time perhaps, but roasting Mac is an old tradition (and one he is ridiculous to pretend never happens). He and Epignosis are the most common targets for my more... animated aggression.

It’s kind of hawt tbh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

I’m voting Hally now.

You could join.

Nah pass, Hally is obvious town from derp clearing herself after Alison fake claimed mafia.

Didn’t you just spend the last pages declaring how Jimmay and Hally are teammates.

You can calm down with the open wolfing now lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

I’m voting Hally now.

You could join.

Nah pass, Hally is obvious town from derp clearing herself after Alison fake claimed mafia.

Why does Hally’s posts count as derp clears, while Jimnay’s does not?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 pm In the triangle of Dyslexicon, Hally and Jay there are always two mafia.

So it’s me and Jay, since you just cleared Hally from derps?

Like… are you derp clearing lock towning Hally, or are you accusing them? Cause that seems the tiniest fraction unclear

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:08 pm What is my reaction and why is it bad? Is this you trying to make me look bad after a red flip or something?

This got bizarre so fast. I bet it’s pretty hilarious in specchat in some way or another.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:11 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:06 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 pm Why does Hally’s posts count as derp clears, while Jimnay’s does not?

Why am I town now?

I never scum read you.

I was asking Mac why he’s clearing Hally for reacting to Alison’s lies, but not you.

Of course, nobody should be cleared off of that, as mafia isn’t going to let it be known that it is a lie.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:11 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:08 pm What is my reaction and why is it bad? Is this you trying to make me look bad after a red flip or something?

This got bizarre so fast. I bet it’s pretty hilarious in specchat in some way or another.

No you are sidelining hot takes that feel like cheerleading Jay in a really scummy way and even Jay noticed it.

Your yammering makes zero sense to me. Sorryboutit.

You’re accusing Hally and clearing Hally on breathing in and out.

Or I just don’t get it.

And I believe that if there’s scum between j/hally, it’s likelier to be hally.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:15 pm But I am very much amused, yes.

Can’t tell if this is a disaster or will be productive at some point.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:17 pm Wild as it seems, Mac still could be town.

Oh wow, how amazing and interesting!

I will return later. Game game game

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:18 pm Obligatory

What if Mac/Jay are both town and the real scums are like Hally and/or Nook or something?

A few things that might be indicative of mafia Dizzy from this pile:

1) Suggesting Hally is suspicious for "buying Alison's trick" -- no reason I see why town Hally can't do that, and it also suggests to me that Dizzy knew too much about Alison's motivations as it had been happening (by way of knowing her alignment).

2) Town reading me while I was screaming at Mac in a way that I haven't done in a long time, causing numerous people including Dizzy himself to remark that I was out of character.

3) Suggesting Mac was openwolfing for making his arguments against Hally and I, points that I don't think should have necessarily been viewed as patently wrong by people other than Hally and I.