Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]

[Iron_Dwarf]

This post on Sig also still sticks out to me:

Spoiler: show

This was my exact result btw: “**f*** *m ** - s*g”

I was drunk last night and working now so I haven’t put the slightest effort into decoding it. Have at it.

Soften 'em up. It corroborates I think Kites (?) who said they boosted sig's kill chance. I obviously didn't do that, so you were misdirected or something.

Sounds plausible and for me this means Kites is probably town. Can't imagine sig with his ability is scum.

His explanation ("idk what I meant but still think Sig is town") didn't really clear it up at all.

I admitted I was in the wrong there. We all can't play perfect.

[Iron_Dwarf]

I suspect DDL and to a greater degree Marmot, so I'd say no.

Yet you're not voting for them?

If speedchuck is good, then Marmot is good, and DDL I guess is good, and if I am good then sprityo is good.

That's five cleared. Move civilians.

Quick change of heart.

Does my quickness unsettle you?

No, but your inconsistency does.

[gwilikers6]

I will vote for lap if she doesn’t give us any of her results, like ffs.

[Epignosis]

I suspect DDL and to a greater degree Marmot, so I'd say no.

Yet you're not voting for them?

If speedchuck is good, then Marmot is good, and DDL I guess is good, and if I am good then sprityo is good.

That's five cleared. Move civilians.

Quick change of heart.

Does my quickness unsettle you?

No, but your inconsistency does.

I don't care about being consistent.

[sig]

[VOTE: Rundontwalk] aubergine

I'm fairly confident from looking over the votes and various wagons that he's mafia and saved Quin.

Sorry I wasn't around much yesterday internet was out and i had to study. I'll try to be a bit more active today, but no promises.

[Epignosis]

Anybody got a current tally? Polls ftw man. Polls ftw.

[sig]

[3] rundontwalk - colonialbob, Kites, sig (no vote)
[1] colonialbob - rundontwalk
[4] lapluie - Epignosis, Dragon D. Luffy, sprity0, nutella (No vote)
[1] Iron_Dwarf - speedchuck
[1] nutella - Iron_Dwarf (Switched from Epi)

Not voting: gwilikers6, Kenway, Kylemii, lapluie,

I believe this is right

[rundontwalk]

Unvote IronDwarf

[VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

I'm not scum, lap very well could be

[rundontwalk]

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] should vote for either me or lap. That's the two realistic options

[rundontwalk]

Also iron dwarf's voting for someone other than me is inexplicable if he really thinks I'm scum

[Epignosis]

rundontwalk, will you be here in the next half hour or so?

[colonialbob]

[3] rundontwalk - colonialbob, Kites, sig (no vote)
[1] colonialbob - rundontwalk
[4] lapluie - Epignosis, Dragon D. Luffy, sprity0, nutella (No vote)
[1] Iron_Dwarf - speedchuck
[1] nutella - Iron_Dwarf (Switched from Epi)

Not voting: gwilikers6, Kenway, Kylemii, lapluie,

I believe this is right

What's this please

[rundontwalk]

rundontwalk, will you be here in the next half hour or so?

I will. It's Sunday and I'm just on the couch eating pie for breakfast. God is good.

[rundontwalk]

Also I'm working under assumption that if lap is scum then scum probably have already voted for me for most part meaning their voting power is diminished and will try hard to influence town voters

[Epignosis]

I haven't had much of a chance to study Quin, so I'll do so now.

I don't think with the way the role distribution panned out yesterday that would have been necessary or possible. It was a whoever was online first and asking for a role.

I think it's likely that scum would plan for that.

You seem to know what the scum are thinking which begs the question

=)

I like Dr.White because I've never seen him before and he's telling everyone to get out of his way and DDL for getting stuck in before and more than anybody else despite the nature of the draft. There's nobody I dislike.

Sorry, what are you talking about? You mean when I took a while to give someone a role because I hadnt read the rules?

When I think about early content the first "real" contributors I recall are you and rdw. I don't know where the latter is now, but you stand out as wanting to get things done.

Early interactions are limited to these two posts.

Roygbiv

Are your reads in a state of constant quantum fluctuation?

There's scum among IronDwarf/gwilikers/dr/kites

I think y'all are overlooking gwilikers. Would town gwilikers be so so invested?

I don't see an explanation for this opinion in your posts. Can you elaborate?

Instinct mostly.

I am a lion and the scum are baby gazelles.

Those are the people who strike me as most scummy reading their posts. Like where is Kites? Doctor Dragon got really bothered by MacDougall the way scum would. Like you can call me scum all day long and I will laugh in your face cause you're wrong and I'm right

Disagree with DDL. He gets emotional in arguments as a civilian. I've gone back and forth with him in enough games to know this. I don't know if it's also scum indicative. I've not played with him in that alignment.

also wait rdw did you mean DDL when you said "dr" in that one post? I'm so confused I assumed it was either Dr. White or DrWilgy but your response implies DDL

I thought it was Doctor Dragon Fluff or something

It's Dragon Dick Luffy.

On the surface, Day 2 strikes me as "softball" interactions, but the interaction does not, to my eye, appear scripted.

And...that's it. Quin made no real effort beyond this to interact with rundontwalk, never made an effort to make him look good or bad.

The superfluous "You seem to know what the scum are thinking which begs the question" elicited nothing more than a coy smile from Quin.

Now from rundontwalk:

85% gut reads. Can't be bothered to write up cases on anyone or do any more reading. Doesn't help me much at all.

gwilikers6
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
colonialbob
Dr. White
Epignosis
Kenway
Kylemii
Long Con
MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay
lapluie
ColinIsCool
Quin
Dragon D. Luffy
sprityo
sig
rundontwalk
nutella
Marmot
Kites
Iron_Dwarf
DrWilgy

Lol. I reject this out of hand. It's simply not possible that you think I'm more scummy than Quin. Try again

[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalk

rundontwalk followed up this seemingly accusatory stance with an accusation in the form of a vote. Cool.

I could go for lapluie if that's on the table. As it stands it is between cbob and Dr. White, and I'd prefer to lynch the latter but I prefer rdw over either if he can still get enough votes. My preference out of the likely candidates at the moment would be rundontwalk > lapluie > Dr. White > colonialbob. I dunno what happened to lynching Quin though

"I'll go for whatever. The only good civilian is a dead civilian." - nutella, February 16, 2018

excuse me what?

You are excused.

You don't care who is lynched is what I got from your whatever attitude towards lynching lapluie.

This is only peripherally related to Quin, but it stood out to me. It looks like a genuine accusation to me.

The rest of the posts are rundontwalk voting or not voting Quin, and then talking about why he didn't vote for Quin.

After all of this, I am less inclined to lynch rundontwalk.

[rundontwalk]

My scum team:

Quin
RDW
Epi
Bob
Someone who has been blending like a boss. My gut says either Gwilker or Sig. Let's say Gwilkers for my attempt of calling the whole team.

In retrospect I find this post horrifying given what I've thought about gwilly

[Epignosis]

Does anyone have a compelling reason to spare nutella? Off the top of my head, I do not.

[Epignosis]

For my exercise, JJJ (civilian), DDL and Kylemii said they would pick Quin. Nobody else mentioned him. For whatever that's worth.

[rundontwalk]

Does anyone have a compelling reason to spare nutella? Off the top of my head, I do not.

She's more waffly than Belgium but apparently that is how she is

[rundontwalk]

DDL.
quin
lap
gwilikers
Bob/kenway

What do we think of a scum team like that

[Epignosis]

nutella

wait is sloonei even playing

So easy to fake...

wait is sloonei even playing

Quin would totally feign ignorance

nutella's comment looks cooked. She doesn't accuse Quin or defend Quin- she acknowledges something that Quin would do.

I like Dr.White because I've never seen him before and he's telling everyone to get out of his way and DDL for getting stuck in before and more than anybody else despite the nature of the draft. There's nobody I dislike.

Sorry, what are you talking about? You mean when I took a while to give someone a role because I hadnt read the rules?

I'm more concerned with "There's nobody I dislike." than his town reads on Dr. White and you. Quin doesn't dislike anyone yet.

Say what?

That is correct.

Do you seriously not have any reads? I just skimmed your ISO and it's, like, 97% fluff.

nutella jumped in with this after DDL and dunya had already made the point.

Spoiler: show

rundontwalk
JaggedJimmyJay
dunya
MacDougall
sprityo
gwilikers6
Kylemii
colonialbob
Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy
Marmot
Dr. White
ColinIsCool
Long Con
TonyStarkPrime
rabbit8
Iron_Dwarf
Kenway
Kites
Quin
lapluie
DrWilgy

You forgot me Nutella

Ah so I did, so sorry about that -- I definitely had you in there while editing and you somehow got deleted. You should be right about next to where Sprityo is. Pretty solid civ read


Woke up to 300+ posts to catch up on, I'm almost done and @dunya I see you asked me a couple things, I'll get to those soon. And I really don't want to get lynched you guys I don't blame some of you for not knowing my meta, but I promise if you give me past my wishy-washy day 1 to get comfortable I can be a valuable scumhunter.

So far I've liked DDL's points on Kenway (and huh I vaguely remember serge) and I feel similarly re: Kites, but I think the case on Quin is the strongest right now -- I still have like 2 pages to read so I'm not sure if he's gotten more votes and I will probably end up voting out of self-preservation if possible (unless Epi is telling the truth about his switch), but for now I think Quin has been looking pretty bad, he posted a bunch of fluff during the draft but once the actual phase started his activity dropped off and he barely provided any content, including saying he had no scum reads.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

If mafia thought I was going to switch the lynch like I claimed, they could vote for teammates with little fear of consequences.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

YUCK.

Gross.

"Disgusting."

etc.

For starters, you vote for MY second suspect. For finals, why not lap or Wilgy as per your rainbow? Nope. Fake. Not buying it.

oh wait.... shit. I think I fucked up and my vote doesn't count. I thought someone had voted for Quin before that. My passive is I can't put the first vote on someone. Uhh what's the tally

Spoiler: show

rundontwalk
JaggedJimmyJay
dunya
MacDougall
sprityo
gwilikers6
Kylemii
colonialbob
Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy
Marmot
Dr. White
ColinIsCool
Long Con
TonyStarkPrime
rabbit8
Iron_Dwarf
Kenway
Kites
Quin
lapluie
DrWilgy

You forgot me Nutella

Ah so I did, so sorry about that -- I definitely had you in there while editing and you somehow got deleted. You should be right about next to where Sprityo is. Pretty solid civ read


Woke up to 300+ posts to catch up on, I'm almost done and @dunya I see you asked me a couple things, I'll get to those soon. And I really don't want to get lynched you guys I don't blame some of you for not knowing my meta, but I promise if you give me past my wishy-washy day 1 to get comfortable I can be a valuable scumhunter.

So far I've liked DDL's points on Kenway (and huh I vaguely remember serge) and I feel similarly re: Kites, but I think the case on Quin is the strongest right now -- I still have like 2 pages to read so I'm not sure if he's gotten more votes and I will probably end up voting out of self-preservation if possible (unless Epi is telling the truth about his switch), but for now I think Quin has been looking pretty bad, he posted a bunch of fluff during the draft but once the actual phase started his activity dropped off and he barely provided any content, including saying he had no scum reads.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

Out of curiousity, you liked DDL's case on Kenway.

Who's case on Quin did you like? Same question about Kites.

My own and my own

Good observation by Marmot here: nutella claims "I think the case on Quin is the strongest right now" and then says she still has two pages to read, so that means she could not have been aware of any cases made against Quin in those two pages.

nutella made NO case whatsoever against Quin to like or call the strongest.

I'm calling bullshit.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

[Epignosis]

@Kylemii you have 8 minutes vote for quin he;s bad

dunya I've had enough of your insistence that I haven't given a reason for townreading you when I have done so multiple times now

less dunya more hunt

ok. have you explained your vote on Iron_Dwarf? Is it related to the Dr. White draft thing or something else? Should I ISO him?

My vote is on Quin for now but I'm open to other options, especially if he comes back and provides more content this phase

Where the devil did that Day 1 confidence go?

[gwilikers6]

My scum team:

Quin
RDW
Epi
Bob
Someone who has been blending like a boss. My gut says either Gwilker or Sig. Let's say Gwilkers for my attempt of calling the whole team.

In retrospect I find this post horrifying given what I've thought about gwilly

Why do you suspect me?

[Epignosis]

If I'm right, we have two hours exactly.

[Epignosis]

gwil- your opinion on nutella, if you please.

[rundontwalk]

My scum team:

Quin
RDW
Epi
Bob
Someone who has been blending like a boss. My gut says either Gwilker or Sig. Let's say Gwilkers for my attempt of calling the whole team.

In retrospect I find this post horrifying given what I've thought about gwilly

Why do you suspect me?

Because I think you're clever enough to pull off a fake claim like that and it worries me

[gwilikers6]

If I'm right, we have two hours exactly.

Wait, till the deadline??? I’m at work I can’t really answer anything beyond a one sentence reply but I’d say Nutella is on the scummy side. I suspected her a lot early and I feel like something role related came up to make me back down, but I can’t remwmber what it was.

[gwilikers6]

My scum team:

Quin
RDW
Epi
Bob
Someone who has been blending like a boss. My gut says either Gwilker or Sig. Let's say Gwilkers for my attempt of calling the whole team.

In retrospect I find this post horrifying given what I've thought about gwilly

Why do you suspect me?

Because I think you're clever enough to pull off a fake claim like that and it worries me

Like what? My public role in the OP that has been confirmed 3 times by the people I’ve used it on?

[Epignosis]

If I'm right, we have two hours exactly.

Wait, till the deadline??? I’m at work I can’t really answer anything beyond a one sentence reply but I’d say Nutella is on the scummy side. I suspected her a lot early and I feel like something role related came up to make me back down, but I can’t remwmber what it was.

Deadline, yes- if I'm reading the clock and the poll title correctly.

[rundontwalk]

I could get behind a nutella lynch

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Why does a baddie Nutella move a lynch on Quin to save herself?

Why not... literally anyone else? There wasn't a shortage of inactives on d1 to pick from.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Like Quin wasn't anything close to a possible lynch before Nutella started pushing it.

[Epignosis]

Why does a baddie Nutella move a lynch on Quin to save herself?

Why not... literally anyone else? There wasn't a shortage of inactives on d1 to pick from.

How does nutella move a lynch on Quin to save herself? She only had one vote, and if I'm reading it correctly she was the first person to vote for him. If she got lynched and showed up bad, what would that make people think of Quin?

Do you think nutella is a civilian?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Why does a baddie Nutella move a lynch on Quin to save herself?

Why not... literally anyone else? There wasn't a shortage of inactives on d1 to pick from.

How does nutella move a lynch on Quin to save herself? She only had one vote, and if I'm reading it correctly she was the first person to vote for him. If she got lynched and showed up bad, what would that make people think of Quin?

Do you think nutella is a civilian?

No she didn't. She had like 5. Quin had 0. She saved herself by starting a wagon on him.

Yes I do.

[Epignosis]

Why does a baddie Nutella move a lynch on Quin to save herself?

Why not... literally anyone else? There wasn't a shortage of inactives on d1 to pick from.

How does nutella move a lynch on Quin to save herself? She only had one vote, and if I'm reading it correctly she was the first person to vote for him. If she got lynched and showed up bad, what would that make people think of Quin?

Do you think nutella is a civilian?

No she didn't. She had like 5. Quin had 0. She saved herself by starting a wagon on him.

Yes I do.

Who else had votes at the time?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I dont know by memory but check my color vote analysis.

I think you and rabbit8.

[Epignosis]

What's your opinion of nutella saying the case on Quin was the strongest one when there was no case made against him, and when Marmot pressed her about it, she cited her own case (which didn't exist)?

[colonialbob]

Spoiler: show

rundontwalk
JaggedJimmyJay
dunya
MacDougall
sprityo
gwilikers6
Kylemii
colonialbob
Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy
Marmot
Dr. White
ColinIsCool
Long Con
TonyStarkPrime
rabbit8
Iron_Dwarf
Kenway
Kites
Quin
lapluie
DrWilgy

You forgot me Nutella

Ah so I did, so sorry about that -- I definitely had you in there while editing and you somehow got deleted. You should be right about next to where Sprityo is. Pretty solid civ read


Woke up to 300+ posts to catch up on, I'm almost done and @dunya I see you asked me a couple things, I'll get to those soon. And I really don't want to get lynched you guys I don't blame some of you for not knowing my meta, but I promise if you give me past my wishy-washy day 1 to get comfortable I can be a valuable scumhunter.

So far I've liked DDL's points on Kenway (and huh I vaguely remember serge) and I feel similarly re: Kites, but I think the case on Quin is the strongest right now -- I still have like 2 pages to read so I'm not sure if he's gotten more votes and I will probably end up voting out of self-preservation if possible (unless Epi is telling the truth about his switch), but for now I think Quin has been looking pretty bad, he posted a bunch of fluff during the draft but once the actual phase started his activity dropped off and he barely provided any content, including saying he had no scum reads.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

If mafia thought I was going to switch the lynch like I claimed, they could vote for teammates with little fear of consequences.

This part of the case I don't like. Unless you're teammates, they can't *know* that you're going to do that, and it's very risky to rely on you to actually be telling the truth about something like that. In fact, you were lying, as it turns out, just you stopped the lynch completely instead of stalling it.

I'll take a closer look at the nutella/quin read and votes though.

[rundontwalk]

Anyone down for an IronDwarf lynch?

[Epignosis]

Anyone down for an IronDwarf lynch?

[VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Epi wtf are you doing. Stick to a lynch.

[rundontwalk]

[VOTE: IronDwarf] aubergine

I like this crazy and indecisive Epi

[Dragon D. Luffy]

What's your opinion of nutella saying the case on Quin was the strongest one when there was no case made against him, and when Marmot pressed her about it, she cited her own case (which didn't exist)?

I think your point was that she wasn't caught up? Ehich I think is reaching because I have done that like ten times myself. Catch up while reading the last few pages.

[colonialbob]

TSP is the Shaman: "Forbidden Knowledge - Each night, you may choose a role from role list and reveal any secrets or background powers associated with it. Using this on scum roles too often without using it on enough draft/promotion roles will result in negative consequences."

This would be a very odd baddie role, because why would a scum use this on a scummate?

It's a role that the scum might want to snatch up so the town can't learn their secrets. (and while I'm writing this I see this has been answered already)

That being said, I wouldn't want to mislynch the Shaman if Tony is civ after all, but I'm really not feeling good about him.

Aaaahhh, yes I see. Yes, the scum would want to own the most dangerous roles to them. If Tony is scum then, the player who drafted him into the Shaman is also scum.

Hey that's me and I resent the assumption He requested it, I didn't think for too long about it and I was still trying to wrap my head around all the roles so I didn't even consider that it was a role the scum might want to claim. I was more wary of Wilgy asking for a killing role. I think I must have associated info roles with townies wanting them, and I wanted to keep the draft going relatively quickly so I unfortunately didn't think about it for too long.

If I unwittingly gave such a powerful role to the mafia then it is my duty to repent by lynching the guy D1

Also, he still hasn't explained his mysterious accusation of Kyle, has he? Wtf was that about?

Would baddie nutella make this post about civ TSP? Why?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I don't.

I will try to make sure one of RDW or lapluie gets ltnched today.

[rundontwalk]

[mention]gwilikers6[/mention] help me lynch IronDwarf plz. That man is scum

[rundontwalk]

I don't.

I will try to make sure one of RDW or lapluie gets ltnched today.

Why do you want to save IronDwarf?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[VOTE: IronDwarf] aubergine

I like this crazy and indecisive Epi

Yes because you are trying to save yourself and people are voting away from you.

Which you won't admit because you are too disingenous to.

[gwilikers6]

I just don’t want to lynch him cuz he’s not going to die, unless he’s already been targeted by a night kill. I’d rather lap at this point.

[colonialbob]

I just don’t want to lynch him cuz he’s not going to die, unless he’s already been targeted by a night kill. I’d rather lap at this point.

How do you feel about RDW