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WIFEY!!!! <3Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:09 pm Oh my. I love this day 0 herd culling. So different from the ancient days of mafia when everyone struggled for something to say on day 0 and the few aggressive people wound up getting lynched on days that followed. Now everyone can be aggressive and the mafia can blend in.
But this a holiday so I’ll be back later tonight to say things that can be overanalyzed. Happy GoT day everyone!
Shockedpikachu.jpgSpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:21 pm Current gut read after having caught up
Jack - bad
Jay - bad
Dunya - Town
Luna - Town
Mata - Town
Nova - Town
Juliets - slight bad lean
Speed - Town
Nutella - rude
Everyone else is null.
Tell me about LunaleeSpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:21 pm Current gut read after having caught up
Jack - bad
Jay - bad
Dunya - Town
Luna - Town
Mata - Town
Nova - Town
Juliets - slight bad lean
Speed - Town
Nutella - rude
Everyone else is null.
Which post of Nutella’s did you call bullshit ?
I’m just trying to ruin your numbers.
I'm not sure if I believe you believe this stuff.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:50 am I called nova town and speed bad in my first post to throw out my impressions from the posts up to that point. So those were the previous stances, before the juliets/Mac thing came up which I found an intriguing possibility (the implication that they're teammates. So I'm keeping a close eye on both of them. As
for Luna, well she only has a couple posts and they didn't feel the most natural (as Jay pointed out she kinda overjustified her d0 vote).
The comparison you draw between my speed and juliets mentions is unfair. Speed was an early gut suspect. Like, early early. I'm giving him a chance to say what he can (in his state lol). Juliets I am keeping an eye on because of a strange thing nova pointed out that may tie her to Mac, and I don't see anything inspiring from Mac so that is on the table imo.
I dunno I'd call 1/12 a very productive ratio for d0.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:10 pm Jack reels off 12 posts in quick succession. Only one read exists in that set, and it is conditional crud: “DDL and Jay not both bad”
Poop
I don’t think you all are together. I think one or two of you are but I’m not sure which ones.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:24 pmShockedpikachu.jpgSpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:21 pm Current gut read after having caught up
Jack - bad
Jay - bad
Dunya - Town
Luna - Town
Mata - Town
Nova - Town
Juliets - slight bad lean
Speed - Town
Nutella - rude
Everyone else is null.
Why are Jay, Jack and maybe Juliets bad?
Is it because our names start with the letter J?
She seems more playful in tone this game than she did in Vault, when she was mafia. I don’t think overexplaining is a tell specific to mafia. Civs can worry they will get mislynched because their reasons are unclear. I felt like I came under a lot of suspicion for this in Vault and I was civ. I don’t think it’s alignment indicative and I think looking at the rest of her posts she looks more casual in tone.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:33 pmTell me about LunaleeSpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:21 pm Current gut read after having caught up
Jack - bad
Jay - bad
Dunya - Town
Luna - Town
Mata - Town
Nova - Town
Juliets - slight bad lean
Speed - Town
Nutella - rude
Everyone else is null.
I trend towards if Jack is bad the other two probably are not. Jay could be a teammate withhjuliets, but I wouldn’t say that is a sure thing if one of them is bad they both are. It’s possible, but I’m just spitting out my gut readability independent of each other right now. I don’t believe all three are bad together, no.
I changed my mind. dunya and I get into spats quite like that in many Days 0 wherein she presses me for my least-developed flier reads, implies they aren't real, and then I get cranky because undeveloped reads are my Day 0 bread and butter. The most important detail to me about dunya is that she seems to be consciously resisting the urge to make a bunch of posts as opposed to reveling in pre-game slank cover -- it's a good thing that reflects my own play at present (granted I have shown considerably less restraint).Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:01 pm Jay, it’s in the way he has responded to dunya. She pressed to understand why two things read differently because she didn’t see a difference. A valid question imo. His response was , she should know me better than that. An implicationhe thinks she is bad. Then a short time later he calls her good, I don’t see a natural evolution of opinion in there. It looks bad to me.
Ok, this is the line of thinking I wasn’t able to see and made me feel suspicious of you. I’m going to crank you down to a slight bad lean, mostly because I want to read you over again to be sure I’m comfortable moving you to full town read. But this helps to understand.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:07 pmI changed my mind. dunya and I get into spats quite like that in many Days 0 wherein she presses me for my least-developed flier reads, implies they aren't real, and then I get cranky because undeveloped reads are my Day 0 bread and butter. The most important detail to me about dunya is that she seems to be consciously resisting the urge to make a bunch of posts as opposed to reveling in pre-game slank cover -- it's a good thing that reflects my own play at present (granted I have shown considerably less restraint).Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:01 pm Jay, it’s in the way he has responded to dunya. She pressed to understand why two things read differently because she didn’t see a difference. A valid question imo. His response was , she should know me better than that. An implicationhe thinks she is bad. Then a short time later he calls her good, I don’t see a natural evolution of opinion in there. It looks bad to me.
Did I do any of that? I don’t remember doing any of that. In fact, I have Juliets down as a null read. The only Juliets post I remember is the jokish post and that’s because I commented on commentary of commentary of it. I’m three levels removed from actually saying anything about Juliets so you reading me bad for my “push” on Juliets, who you suspect anyway, is realSpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:01 pmI don’t think you all are together. I think one or two of you are but I’m not sure which ones.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:24 pmShockedpikachu.jpgSpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:21 pm Current gut read after having caught up
Jack - bad
Jay - bad
Dunya - Town
Luna - Town
Mata - Town
Nova - Town
Juliets - slight bad lean
Speed - Town
Nutella - rude
Everyone else is null.
Why are Jay, Jack and maybe Juliets bad?
Is it because our names start with the letter J?
Juliets I don’t feel the normal confused/trying to understand vibe I get from her posts. She seems more confident in her reads than I expect from civ Juliets.
Jay, it’s in the way he has responded to dunya. She pressed to understand why two things read differently because she didn’t see a difference. A valid question imo. His response was , she should know me better than that. An implicationhe thinks she is bad. Then a short time later he calls her good, I don’t see a natural evolution of opinion in there. It looks bad to me.
Jack, you pushed Juliets for her joke questions about Mac/nova. I’ve only played two game series this year and even I knew what she was talking about. You presented it in a manner as if she only asked the questions as if she already knew they were on different teams, but that was t an accurate representation. Looks bad to me.
Boo hissSpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:11 pm I’ve got a thing starting. I’ll be back in like an hour.
Two of her three reads are real questionable and two of her three could easily be distancing.
I could not disagree more.
Let's approach it the Jack way.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:18 pmTwo of her three reads are real questionable and two of her three could easily be distancing.
Ok fair enough, maybe I was caught up on one post from humor and it colored my perception. I don’t know, I’ll read ISO you in an hour. You and Jay.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:15 pmDid I do any of that? I don’t remember doing any of that. In fact, I have Juliets down as a null read. The only Juliets post I remember is the jokish post and that’s because I commented on commentary of commentary of it. I’m three levels removed from actually saying anything about Juliets so you reading me bad for my “push” on Juliets, who you suspect anyway, is realSpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:01 pmI don’t think you all are together. I think one or two of you are but I’m not sure which ones.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:24 pmShockedpikachu.jpgSpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:21 pm Current gut read after having caught up
Jack - bad
Jay - bad
Dunya - Town
Luna - Town
Mata - Town
Nova - Town
Juliets - slight bad lean
Speed - Town
Nutella - rude
Everyone else is null.
Why are Jay, Jack and maybe Juliets bad?
Is it because our names start with the letter J?
Juliets I don’t feel the normal confused/trying to understand vibe I get from her posts. She seems more confident in her reads than I expect from civ Juliets.
Jay, it’s in the way he has responded to dunya. She pressed to understand why two things read differently because she didn’t see a difference. A valid question imo. His response was , she should know me better than that. An implicationhe thinks she is bad. Then a short time later he calls her good, I don’t see a natural evolution of opinion in there. It looks bad to me.
Jack, you pushed Juliets for her joke questions about Mac/nova. I’ve only played two game series this year and even I knew what she was talking about. You presented it in a manner as if she only asked the questions as if she already knew they were on different teams, but that was t an accurate representation. Looks bad to me.
You scum, Daisy?
Gimmie a spicier read than all this.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:05 pm The "spicy" argument sounds like a bunch of people reaching. Skimmed most of it.
Jay is on par with civ Jay, yeah he's making a few forced posts but that's his thing. Not that hard to fake as mafia tho.
Jack sounds legit. So does nova.
Dunya is whatever. Too soon to call alignment since she seems to be adjusting her desired activity level.
I don't like nutella too much but I'll try to avoid tunneling here. Let's say weak bad read for now.
The rest needs to post more for me to have ideas.
Maybe it’s a tell.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:19 pmLet's approach it the Jack way.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:18 pmTwo of her three reads are real questionable and two of her three could easily be distancing.
Do you think Daisy's scum move is to go straight after the J squad?
are you paying attention to the last part of my post? i'm not saying she's gonna ignore it forever, but "avoid a jay-confrontation on day 0." like speedchuck said, suspicion does fade away when people are quiet and others are more vocal. if not entirely, it's still enough to not be the center of attention.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:26 pmThat’s like saying you think train tracks would have tried to avoid a train. It’s not happening. I don’t get this read.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:30 ami liked the attitude she gave you when she was online last night. she could have avoided you. i didn't like her lack of focus on content, but i'm not one to talk about that. plus 48hr day 0s inspire less effort, couple that with easter weekend and people have families... eh. in fact, i do think scum nutella would have tried to avoid a jay-confrontation on day 0.
what do you mean?
I don't think those reads are garbage. Given that you, nutella, and I had just spent much of a page talking about juliets, I can understand how someone else had the impression that you found a juliets/Mac pairing to be... spicy -- whether you intended it or not, that implies that you take the possibility seriously that they're teamed (and thus suspicious).Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:19 pmI could not disagree more.
The Juliets and Jack reads are garbage.
She’s defending and accusing Juliets at the same time. That’s teammate behavior.
You're more likely than I am to forgive slank cover (and perhaps more likely by extension to view accusations of slank cover as being lame).
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:29 am If Jay doesn’t come back to this with a Dunya scumread or something about the reads being for a reaction, I will eat my hat.
that's true. do you think that's a weakness in my play? this isn't really game related, but i'm curious if you don't mind answering.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:25 pmYou're more likely than I am to forgive slank cover (and perhaps more likely by extension to view accusations of slank cover as being lame).
I'm pretty sure Jack was making fun of me in that post.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:27 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:29 am If Jay doesn’t come back to this with a Dunya scumread or something about the reads being for a reaction, I will eat my hat.
i wish people paid attention to things i'm saying. i never said those gut reads weren't for a reaction, i think if anyone knows the shit flinging game it's me. but i can still try to find inconsistencies in jay's play to distinguish someone faking it to authentic jay. his style isn't hard to replicate if he puts enough effort. ya'll can give him the shiniest green skittle cos he posts like a mad man but i'm happy being me.
Meant Jay’s reads.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:27 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:29 am If Jay doesn’t come back to this with a Dunya scumread or something about the reads being for a reaction, I will eat my hat.
i wish people paid attention to things i'm saying. i never said those gut reads weren't for a reaction, i think if anyone knows the shit flinging game it's me. but i can still try to find inconsistencies in jay's play to distinguish someone faking it to authentic jay. his style isn't hard to replicate if he puts enough effort. ya'll can give him the shiniest green skittle cos he posts like a mad man but i'm happy being me.
I’m not reading them as teammates. I can both have suspicion of Jack and Juliets withiut believing they are teammates. Because I don’t know anything for sure. I’m not defending Juliets, I’m saying I don’t like that post from Jack. Just because that one post from Juliets did not look bad to me doesn’t mean that there isn’t an overall tone that feels off to me from her as I look at the whole of her posts.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:25 pmI don't think those reads are garbage. Given that you, nutella, and I had just spent much of a page talking about juliets, I can understand how someone else had the impression that you found a juliets/Mac pairing to be... spicy -- whether you intended it or not, that implies that you take the possibility seriously that they're teamed (and thus suspicious).Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:19 pmI could not disagree more.
The Juliets and Jack reads are garbage.
She’s defending and accusing Juliets at the same time. That’s teammate behavior.
I'll leave Daisy to talk about the two-way take on juliets.
We weren’t talking about Juliets. We were talking about Nutella’s reaction to Nova talking about Juliets.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:25 pmI don't think those reads are garbage. Given that you, nutella, and I had just spent much of a page talking about juliets, I can understand how someone else had the impression that you found a juliets/Mac pairing to be... spicy -- whether you intended it or not, that implies that you take the possibility seriously that they're teamed (and thus suspicious).Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:19 pmI could not disagree more.
The Juliets and Jack reads are garbage.
She’s defending and accusing Juliets at the same time. That’s teammate behavior.
I'll leave Daisy to talk about the two-way take on juliets.
Could please explain what you saw that you think ties me to Mac? Not just "what" but why.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:50 amI called nova town and speed bad in my first post to throw out my impressions from the posts up to that point. So those were the previous stances, before the juliets/Mac thing came up which I found an intriguing possibility (the implication that they're teammates. So I'm keeping a close eye on both of them. Asdunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:38 ami checked your iso and didn't see any stances taken before this post. i don't know why you think speed was ever bad. why is nova town. why is jay town. why are luna and mac on notice specifically? i can't even recall a single thing mac has said beyond checking in? the only post you made where i could see an opinion on any player was your quote of nova re: juliets (the infamous "ohhhh sppppiCCCYYY") which implies you saw juliets in a possibly negative light, but it is speed you thought/think is bad.
i liked the fire you spat at jay, but i don't like this nutella post.
for Luna, well she only has a couple posts and they didn't feel the most natural (as Jay pointed out she kinda overjustified her d0 vote).
The comparison you draw between my speed and juliets mentions is unfair. Speed was an early gut suspect. Like, early early. I'm giving him a chance to say what he can (in his state lol). Juliets I am keeping an eye on because of a strange thing nova pointed out that may tie her to Mac, and I don't see anything inspiring from Mac so that is on the table imo.
You tell yourself you're not my kind
But you don't even know your mind
And you could have a change of heart
Rikki don't lose that number
You don't want to call nobody else
Send it off in a letter to yourself
Rikki don't lose that number
It's the only one you own
You might use it if you feel better
When you get home
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pm Always good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
o.OJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:46 am Also in a vacuum, I see the second post as not w/w indicative. Scum Jay doesn’t need an excuse to not do things so his teammate doesn’t need to give him that excuse.
No, not necessarily. Both mean and nice can be effective under the right circumstances, and they can often be effective when used simultaneously (in a good cop/bad cop kind of way).
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