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(from bottom to top, top three being on the same level)TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:51 pm I owe Carotte 5-6 names.
the >rand alien section:
Mac
Alison
Long Con
Carotte
Rej
Soneji
in roughly that order.
how
when
why
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Proto had close to zero interactions, made a few mechanical walls that said less than they purported to, never followed up on it, hasn't really been around today. Those were the reasons I initially pulled Proto down to the bottom of the poe. Adding to my iso above I noted that at some point Proto expressed displeasure that no one was interacting with his work. That's a townie sentiment and it softens the "has no interactions" thingnutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:49 pmI'm not following thisTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:45 pm for the record epi got at my suspicion of proto but in like his fifth point he asks for people to interact with him so it's not like he's hard avoiding it either
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I see via quick scan I'm on Soneji's shit list too.
Can anybody provide any reason why I'm Alien?
Besides "vibes?"
Can anybody provide any reason why I'm Alien?
Besides "vibes?"
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you're taking a trial run in the town. rej is taking a question mark for nowCarotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:51 pm(from bottom to top, top three being on the same level)TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:51 pm I owe Carotte 5-6 names.
the >rand alien section:
Mac
Alison
Long Con
Carotte
Rej
Soneji
in roughly that order.
how
when
why
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I'll have this discussion out of game at another time
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Yeah, I'm not reading Alison's summary of days long since passed.
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And I'll have it not ever.
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Ah gotchaTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:51 pmProto had close to zero interactions, made a few mechanical walls that said less than they purported to, never followed up on it, hasn't really been around today. Those were the reasons I initially pulled Proto down to the bottom of the poe. Adding to my iso above I noted that at some point Proto expressed displeasure that no one was interacting with his work. That's a townie sentiment and it softens the "has no interactions" thingnutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:49 pmI'm not following thisTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:45 pm for the record epi got at my suspicion of proto but in like his fifth point he asks for people to interact with him so it's not like he's hard avoiding it either
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[Citation needed]Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:28 amI feel this one sounds like desperate try to shade Epi.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:20 pmOmg you are so full of shit lol. You are basically saying "town don't need to town". Get rekt. SHoot this egg.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:18 pmBut that's not your task, is it? That's nutella's burden.
I don't see any reason you are a civilian. You are acting like you're my judge. You're not. nutella is. And she has the requisite experience with me that you bemoan lacking.
My D1 reads on Epi were often on point and my gut tells me Epi is town and that Mac!alien throws a desperate shade.
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Well the fact is I'm not trying to do much of anything. I get drunk and say crazy things and let people dig their own graves and I figure things out in the morning. Write drunk, edit sober. I've been doing that for ages.Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:46 am Since the conversation has moved on, I see no reason in saying my theory about Epignosis. I think he was trying to be intentionally provocative to try to squeeze some kind of reaction out of me. It would explain the rapid escalation of hostility as well as the weird hangup about me "judging" people despite doing the same thing himself. I thought it was just scummy at first, then I thought maybe it was a part of his personality, but the fact that he kept prodding and poking at me specifically eventually made me suspect that he was doing it as a reaction test of some kind. After I disengaged he moved onto wanting to shoot Mac instead of me and had a much calmer tone which makes me think I was right in suspecting this.
If this theory is correct, and I think it is, then Epi is a pretty solid townread of mine. Scum don't pull this kind of convoluted reaction test in general, and when they do they do it in order to get towncred, which was not what Epi did (since I realized what he was doing independently, without him pointing it out or otherwise trying to claim "credit" for it).
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Got emprotocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:38 amthis is the most convoluted thing ever and screams town except now I have this idea in my head that you two *might* be in alien chat together laughing your assess off at us. Cant get to a conclusion so need to park it there and see what other people think.Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:46 am Since the conversation has moved on, I see no reason in saying my theory about Epignosis. I think he was trying to be intentionally provocative to try to squeeze some kind of reaction out of me. It would explain the rapid escalation of hostility as well as the weird hangup about me "judging" people despite doing the same thing himself. I thought it was just scummy at first, then I thought maybe it was a part of his personality, but the fact that he kept prodding and poking at me specifically eventually made me suspect that he was doing it as a reaction test of some kind. After I disengaged he moved onto wanting to shoot Mac instead of me and had a much calmer tone which makes me think I was right in suspecting this.
If this theory is correct, and I think it is, then Epi is a pretty solid townread of mine. Scum don't pull this kind of convoluted reaction test in general, and when they do they do it in order to get towncred, which was not what Epi did (since I realized what he was doing independently, without him pointing it out or otherwise trying to claim "credit" for it).
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The latter doesn't exist.Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:22 am
@Alison, why go to such extent for Dyslexicon meta, but not with Epignosis meta?
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How bout a nice warm cup of Rej is an alien?Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:00 pmWell the fact is I'm not trying to do much of anything. I get drunk and say crazy things and let people dig their own graves and I figure things out in the morning. Write drunk, edit sober. I've been doing that for ages.Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:46 am Since the conversation has moved on, I see no reason in saying my theory about Epignosis. I think he was trying to be intentionally provocative to try to squeeze some kind of reaction out of me. It would explain the rapid escalation of hostility as well as the weird hangup about me "judging" people despite doing the same thing himself. I thought it was just scummy at first, then I thought maybe it was a part of his personality, but the fact that he kept prodding and poking at me specifically eventually made me suspect that he was doing it as a reaction test of some kind. After I disengaged he moved onto wanting to shoot Mac instead of me and had a much calmer tone which makes me think I was right in suspecting this.
If this theory is correct, and I think it is, then Epi is a pretty solid townread of mine. Scum don't pull this kind of convoluted reaction test in general, and when they do they do it in order to get towncred, which was not what Epi did (since I realized what he was doing independently, without him pointing it out or otherwise trying to claim "credit" for it).
I don't suspect you either at this juncture. I'll just say that.
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Haven't paid much attention to Rej. I'd have to do that.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:03 pmHow bout a nice warm cup of Rej is an alien?Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:00 pmWell the fact is I'm not trying to do much of anything. I get drunk and say crazy things and let people dig their own graves and I figure things out in the morning. Write drunk, edit sober. I've been doing that for ages.Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:46 am Since the conversation has moved on, I see no reason in saying my theory about Epignosis. I think he was trying to be intentionally provocative to try to squeeze some kind of reaction out of me. It would explain the rapid escalation of hostility as well as the weird hangup about me "judging" people despite doing the same thing himself. I thought it was just scummy at first, then I thought maybe it was a part of his personality, but the fact that he kept prodding and poking at me specifically eventually made me suspect that he was doing it as a reaction test of some kind. After I disengaged he moved onto wanting to shoot Mac instead of me and had a much calmer tone which makes me think I was right in suspecting this.
If this theory is correct, and I think it is, then Epi is a pretty solid townread of mine. Scum don't pull this kind of convoluted reaction test in general, and when they do they do it in order to get towncred, which was not what Epi did (since I realized what he was doing independently, without him pointing it out or otherwise trying to claim "credit" for it).
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Nutella you're not gonna actually shoot people playing their first game on site on day 1 right? Can we just get that out there?
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Right right. Well do that.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:03 pmHaven't paid much attention to Rej. I'd have to do that.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:03 pmHow bout a nice warm cup of Rej is an alien?Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:00 pmWell the fact is I'm not trying to do much of anything. I get drunk and say crazy things and let people dig their own graves and I figure things out in the morning. Write drunk, edit sober. I've been doing that for ages.Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:46 am Since the conversation has moved on, I see no reason in saying my theory about Epignosis. I think he was trying to be intentionally provocative to try to squeeze some kind of reaction out of me. It would explain the rapid escalation of hostility as well as the weird hangup about me "judging" people despite doing the same thing himself. I thought it was just scummy at first, then I thought maybe it was a part of his personality, but the fact that he kept prodding and poking at me specifically eventually made me suspect that he was doing it as a reaction test of some kind. After I disengaged he moved onto wanting to shoot Mac instead of me and had a much calmer tone which makes me think I was right in suspecting this.
If this theory is correct, and I think it is, then Epi is a pretty solid townread of mine. Scum don't pull this kind of convoluted reaction test in general, and when they do they do it in order to get towncred, which was not what Epi did (since I realized what he was doing independently, without him pointing it out or otherwise trying to claim "credit" for it).
I don't suspect you either at this juncture. I'll just say that.
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shoot rej or soneji. I think probably
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did anyone check the rules and figure out if we could talk at night?
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I've lost my place. I hate my life.
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we can. all's good.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:05 pm did anyone check the rules and figure out if we could talk at night?
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I'm behind, but I don't care. I'm about to go watch TV with the lady of the house.
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Right.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:03 pm Nutella you're not gonna actually shoot people playing their first game on site on day 1 right? Can we just get that out there?
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Shoot LC thennutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:10 pmRight.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:03 pm Nutella you're not gonna actually shoot people playing their first game on site on day 1 right? Can we just get that out there?
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I can't shoot him.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:12 pmMannn Proto is in his first game on the site leave him be
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Yeah but you're EpiEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:21 pmI can't shoot him.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:12 pmMannn Proto is in his first game on the site leave him be
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Soneji, why shouldn't I blast you off the face of our planet?
Anyone else, if you have any good reasons not to blast Soneji or particularly good reasons to blast someone else, speak in the next 40 minutes please.
Anyone else, if you have any good reasons not to blast Soneji or particularly good reasons to blast someone else, speak in the next 40 minutes please.
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Is this going to be every game with you?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:11 pmShoot LC thennutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:10 pmRight.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:03 pm Nutella you're not gonna actually shoot people playing their first game on site on day 1 right? Can we just get that out there?
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1) Why put effort for Dizzy and not Epi?Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:22 am @Alison, why go to such extent for Dyslexicon meta, but not with Epignosis meta?
Why did you suspect Dragomir in the first place?
You said « dyslexicon's "everyone is town or null except drago" readslist still reeks of bussing to me and I think there's a significant chance that they're partners together », now that you think that Dyslexicon is town, how does it impact your read of Dragomir-MacDougall?
MacDougall is chaos, Rej, Soneji and bimbo are still missing in action...
Because Epi meta wouldn't have helped unless I was willing to go to much farther lengths than I had the time, energy or inclination to. The thing with Dizzy was that I was checking up on specific, easily checkable behaviors - having a lot of townreads as town, general belief in the correctness of throwing around towncred left and right, not bussing their partners hard as scum. For Epi, my confusion was that I needed to know Epi as a player or maybe even as a person to untangle the mess of claims/hostility/rapid-fire volley of shots they took at me, and figure out how that impacted their alignment one way or another. That isn't something you can check just by skimming through a few ISOs - you'd basically have to read the entire game or get to know them properly to figure that out.
2) I suspected Dragomir in the first place primarily because the response to some people scumreading him was for Dizzy (who I theorized to be his wolf partner) to immediately bus him (or so I thought at the time). This is why when I put Dizzy and Dragomir down as scum on my initial list, I listed them together - because my theory was that they were specifically wolf buddies together and Dizzy was bussing him. I've later come into evidence about Dizzy's meta that shows that Dizzy's actions weren't necessarily a bus, which means that particular reason for suspecting Dragomir is out the window.
Later on, my suspicions on the Dragomir/MacDougall slot were renewed by MacDougall's behavior. As much as we try to keep out of game stuff from influencing out reads, the fact is that if someone is under pressure and subs out, they're >rand to be wolf (because town would be more likely to be like "okay losers, here's my reads, sheep me after I flip green"). MacDougall came into a slot like that and immediately started exhibiting a whole bunch of anti-town behavior. I put two and two together, and they add up to a scumread on Mac.
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Lol no of course not. Just when you're mafia.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:30 pmIs this going to be every game with you?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:11 pmShoot LC thennutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:10 pmRight.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:03 pm Nutella you're not gonna actually shoot people playing their first game on site on day 1 right? Can we just get that out there?
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Alison tunneling me this hard is ridiculous.
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I think protocultures is pretty likely to be town actually. He exudes paranoia, which is really difficult to fake without sounding forced, and his paranoia doesn't sound forced.
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Maybe do something to show that my read on you is unjustified? Like dialing it 50 notches back on the "chaotic spamming" bit and 50 notches forward on the "explaining my reads in a logical manner" bit?
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You keep saying I am chaotic spamming but it's not even true. You're just making shit up.
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Is this based on anything more than OMGUS?
phew this is some wishy washy stuff, you partially have summarizes then try to reason your own opinion, you have a hard time to fit in
that PoE looks good if you flip it by 180 degree and keep Mac at the bottom
talk with me about Epi
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I don't think you understand what the term wishy-washy means here, and I'm not sure what the rest of your post is trying to say. That I have a split in my post between just giving a summary of the situation and doing analysis?
Epi to me looks like he could be powerwolfing it up this game by making things all about nutella and discrediting the worth of town as a whole. He has the clout to be able to get away with acting in such a way.
Last time to be fair you were scum, and I had Mac to have a passing match with.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:44 pm I'm afraid of making the wrong assumption about Soneji because I pretty much always do tbh, I think I just have never really understood how he works as a player. His one long catchup post didn't feel on a gut level similar to the last time I saw him as town, but I may also be biasing on the low total number of posts and the fact that he only really has late-catch-up stuff and I have trouble reading that over more actual interactions.
Your general attitude has been one of dismissing players by the regular merits of the game, to give extra weight to nutella's place in this game alone.
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At this point it should be pretty obvious I am town I think.
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Strange timing. Did you ping Soneji in scum chat?
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i mean seems like somebody did. Probably not carotte though
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points more to alison I think. Soft defense -> not even mentioning soneji
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Let's look at the players who have it in for Mac.
Dunya - Dunya is actually bad at mafia and has everyone fooled
Alison - Probably just mafia
Rej - Obviously mafia
Have I missed anyone?
Dunya - Dunya is actually bad at mafia and has everyone fooled
Alison - Probably just mafia
Rej - Obviously mafia
Have I missed anyone?
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Actually all three of them are probably mafia lol
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Sure let's just throw Soneji into the list I made and call it a day.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:46 pm points more to alison I think. Soft defense -> not even mentioning soneji
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I'm not impressed by his reads tbh. Pushing Epi is not a favorable point to me right now.
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