Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:53 pmLong Con pyxxy
Cape90 Porscha
staypositivefriend falcon45ca
Sheep DrWilgy LoRab
nutella
TonyStarkPrime
I mean... my reads are usually notoriously wrong, but this is kind of a generalization of where I think I stand.
After I flip, I hope everyone goes back through LoRab's posts, which I think are the posts of a Wolf that needed to choose a stance. She thought going anti-LC was a good route, but please notice that for all the accusations of "sowing seeds of chaos" and "chaos posting ridiculousness to distract us", she has not been able to identify a single post of mine that fits that description.
well I agreed with lorab and found at least one post and your list is stinky!!!
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:57 pm
by pyxxy
writing this down for the record
wilgy coming off Long Con has a vague outline of wilgy coming off DM in Timelines
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 6:02 pm
what is going on here lol
it's a repeat of Timelines Mafia
town is once again slacking
I have once again solved the game
Long Con is once again ignoring my solve
He's not ignoring it. He's bad.
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:30 pm
and yeah it does look like we'll be up against each other today so I do have to hope you're a hit but nothing you're doing is really causing any doubt
He's so clearly bad. He's spreading chaos. Like he does when he's evil. FEBbers gonna FEB.
He isn't even trying to pretend to seem civ at this point.
What kind of chaos is Long Con spreading? Usually when I think of mafia spreading things to cause confusion it's with like... PR claims and throwing as much at the wall as possible to disorientate town from the actual solve. Like Long Con seems fairly set in suspecting DrWilgy/nutella and really has not strayed from that
He has mentioned me a few times. And has just been posting ridiculousness. He’s trying to distract us.
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:24 pm
Wilgy's posts on Abi and LoRab don't make sense to me.
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:53 pm
Good thoughts, LoRab! Welcome to the game.
What kind of strategy were you thinking? Someone suggested putting up one (town) player to try and boost their power, and one (wolf) player to eliminate... but that plan has an obvious downside, were we to pick the wrong song. Who suggested that? Suspicious.
I'm not sure. But I think it should be discussed. I don't remember who suggested that plan...but I'm not sure putting it out there to be discussed is a bad thing. I think we should all have a conversation about how to decide who to put up. I'm trying to think through a strategy that the baddies couldn't manipulate to their advantage.
I also don't remember who said that they'd probably be weird (not their word but I can't remember the word they used) and try to figure out who chose each video. I don't think that's weird at all. I mean, really--it's kind of how the game is set up. That's why we can't hint at our songs...and I can't see a strategy that doesn't involve figuring out whose music is whose once the battle begins.
Also adding, I would have likely voted for Robyn on Day 1--her reaction to being suspected, especially towards LA, was harsh--in a cornered animal kind of way. Also, she didn't seem happy in the game--in the way that many in this wave of players seem to not like being mafia (also, what's up with that?) My not being that way was one of the ways she suspected me in Ted Lasso. And her refusal to answer any suspicion really sat wrong with me. No idea where her allegiance is (or was), but my gut says not civvie.
Only real substantial post, but the timing of it is good in the fact that if Robyn flips town we can basically put LoRab down as townfirmed. Robyn is dead, we know Robyn is dead, we don't know alignment, but for LoRab to come in after the fact and be like "Robyn is Wolfy" where they could be wrong when it doesn't matter, is not something a wolf would make possible. It's not a necessary risk.
Now if Robyn is wolf, we'd need more from LoRab to see if this isn't just some sort of easy credit yoink.
(Also it was me, I brought up the discussion on who we should send to the battle to see what people advised, I'll pretty much remain going in my wolf reads though regardless)
It's not "risky" for a Wolf to say, after it's a done deal, that they would have voted for Robyn, and that she thought Robyn's play was wolfy. For you to "townfirm" LoRab over something that would basically be an easy throwaway post of "look I have no TMI" doesn't sit well at all.
Further, there's no credit to be had if LoRab was right, and Robyn had been a Wolf. LoRab didn't help find the Wolf, and trying to get credit being right while not voting for her is the thing that's more "risky", because that would expose some level of TMI.
That your presented logic is so backward makes me think that LoRab might actually be town, and you are less than subtly trying to pocket her.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:11 pm
Let's do some reads before EoN. This will be post ISO skims.
Abi - Feels pretty normal, where the wolf range and town range are blurred as Abi's ability to town read players comes across easily as tmi. I'd say the lean towards town Abi seems to lay in some of the questions/discussions they are making as there's more semblance of processing their tr's rather than utilizing them.
I will advise that there seems to be hesitation on the town reads that seems to be somewhat similar to the threads momentum and that's worth note:
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:37 pm
Robyn is now doing the thing I thought wolf robyn would do like wut
Two players had voted Robyn prior to this one
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:10 am
I maybe town cored Nutella to fast and I need to stop doing that but I'm not changing it now
This one is exception, there's not a momentum shift when this post happens.
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:45 am
Also I agree with sheep that Wilgy feels weird
and this one follows multiple voices declaring the same.
From a town perspective, there's nothing wrong with reassessment on reads, and the "yeah I agree" does happen.
From a wolf perspective, Abi is responding to momentum to keep their PoE open.
I think the only way to tell with this one is through assoc and effort. Abi should be able to find a pelt assuming they are town. The TRs being tmi will inevitably show if Abi is wolf as long as we keep an eye open to it.
Abi holds a dichotomy with SPF and Porscha against Sheep.
Worth noting that Abi has not mentioned Pyx outside of hellos yet voted for the slot.
Why did you say we'd be able to tell that Abi is Wolf by judging her townreads. How would they "inevitably" show as TMI? Are you saying she never townreads a Wolf partner? If so, then surely you have noted who she didn't townread, if it's an inevitablity? How does this statement hold any credibility if you give it away this early in the game?? You're... not worried at all that she clearly has the ability to read, and could EXTREMELY EASILY confound this so-called inevitability?
Several statements about her here, but the only thing close to an attempt to read her is the sketchy and dubious statement that I criticized above.
see above a post that I also considered just kind of out left field from LC that I think lorab would agree is a post of chaos seeds
LOL yes, nutella already informed me that my attempt to reread and analyze posts I found suspicious would be met with mockery, so thanks for the recap of that. Bonus points for flavouring it with "LC would be trying to solve if he were Town", that's, like, the *chef's kiss* of "go fuck yourself, LC".
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:58 pm
by Long Con
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:57 pm
writing this down for the record
wilgy coming off Long Con has a vague outline of wilgy coming off DM in Timelines
Don't bother with that line of thinking. Honestly.
I like the instrumentation of 1 at 1:30 but 2 is more my speed.
Do we actually want to play the 'let's predict who submitted what while watching who votes where game?'
Suppose we should.
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:21 pm
by LoRab
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:03 pm
I like the instrumentation of 1 at 1:30 but 2 is more my speed.
Do we actually want to play the 'let's predict who submitted what while watching who votes where game?'
Suppose we should.
I can’t think of a different strategy that makes sense.
At initial partial listen, Ihave no idea. But I’ll listen and research more tomorrow. I’m so wiped out from a super long day.
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:49 pm
by LoRab
I’d prefer to vote Nutella, personally.
At the moment, I’m way more convinced that LC is bad than that LA is (although I don’t think she’s civ, at the moment). I remain completely confident that LC is bad. AND, if they are both bad, LA would do much less chaos spewing, because style.
Now, to figure out whose is which.
Or strategize how to make the voting collectively for the best result.
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:38 pm
by Porscha
i'm sorry but having bare feet on stage like that is just
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:38 pm
by Porscha
ggawwwddd I fucking hate that LMAO
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:51 pm
by LoRab
I mean, that is as legit a reason to vote as any. At least initially. Assuming we can switch.
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:05 pm
by Porscha
I think we can switch and I wont not vote it cuz of the naked feet on stage despite my hatred for it
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:07 pm
by Sheep
hhhhhhhhh hi sorry my vacation has been extended (and ofc "irl stuff" but i was mostly aware of that when i joined) i'll try to post more irl tmrw
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:08 pm
by Sheep
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:03 pm
I like the instrumentation of 1 at 1:30 but 2 is more my speed.
Do we actually want to play the 'let's predict who submitted what while watching who votes where game?'
Suppose we should.
???
I feel like this goes against the spirit of the game
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:03 pm
I like the instrumentation of 1 at 1:30 but 2 is more my speed.
Do we actually want to play the 'let's predict who submitted what while watching who votes where game?'
Suppose we should.
???
I feel like this goes against the spirit of the game
I am in agreement, but "Your vote may be based on whatever criteria you would like" and if there's a possibility wolves know who to vote as well so it becomes kinda funky.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:03 pm
I like the instrumentation of 1 at 1:30 but 2 is more my speed.
Do we actually want to play the 'let's predict who submitted what while watching who votes where game?'
Suppose we should.
???
I feel like this goes against the spirit of the game
I am in agreement, but "Your vote may be based on whatever criteria you would like" and if there's a possibility wolves know who to vote as well so it becomes kinda funky.
fair enough
i'm not changing my vote unless i re-listen to the songs and decide i like the other one more
anyhow 800 posts is a lot less than i was expecting so that should be easy enough to read
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:46 pm
by DrWilgy
[VOTE:
Starting Line] aubergine
Sure, I have no way to tell who submitted what anyways.
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:06 pm
by LoRab
Evening out the vote a bit (or at least making it so that all votes are not in one place), in case I get caught up with work tomorrow.
[VOTE:
cloud cult] aubergine
Will try to look tomorrow more closely tomorrow and try to be more thoughtful about voting. In the meantime, any vote is a random vote, I think.
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:05 am
by pyxxy
[VOTE:
Starting Line] aubergine
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:19 am
by Porscha
so what do you guys like about the second one over the first one
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:31 am
by pyxxy
im not an indie folk type
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:08 am
by Porscha
I have a thought on who I think which song belongs to who
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:15 am
by pyxxy
likewise
which is in addition to me not being an indie folk type
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:18 am
by Porscha
ok we are on same page... I wonder about everyone else
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:38 am
by pyxxy
nutella
Voters: Long Con, staypositivefriend, Cape90, pyxxy
Long Con
Voters: LoRab, nutella
in a closer world I was tempted to just lurk and vote late (along the same logic of who I think submitted which song) to see if maybe scum would look to save their teammate
although now I write than and realize, I assume scum are also honor bounded to not tell their teammates which song is theirs?
otherwise that would be messsssyyyyyyy
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:45 am
by Porscha
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:38 am
nutella
Voters: Long Con, staypositivefriend, Cape90, pyxxy
Long Con
Voters: LoRab, nutella
in a closer world I was tempted to just lurk and vote late (along the same logic of who I think submitted which song) to see if maybe scum would look to save their teammate
although now I write than and realize, I assume scum are also honor bounded to not tell their teammates which song is theirs?
otherwise that would be messsssyyyyyyy
I wouldn't count on that
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:49 am
by Porscha
I only say that because i have been fully under the impression they would know their teammates song. or have a really strong inclination. like even if there is a rule they can't straight up tell them what song they have submitted, they could be like "i really like x type of music" in wolf chat to give a strong hint kind of thing... idk
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:52 am
by pyxxy
but but but
porscha
even a _whiff_ of impropriety
my frail heart couldn't take it
the bands must battle
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:12 am
by Porscha
lmaoooo yeah they be battling... battling dirty maybe
but maybe you're right. I hadn't even considered that tbh
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:22 am
by staypositivefriend
hi ill be here tomorrow
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:23 am
by staypositivefriend
[VOTE:
vote: cloud cult] aubergine
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:23 am
by falcon45ca
I prefer Cloud Cult's 'Chemicals Collide', but honestly it was 6.2/10 v 6.3/10
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:33 am
by falcon45ca
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:05 pm
I think we can switch and I wont not vote it cuz of the naked feet on stage despite my hatred for it
Listen to the song, don't watch the video, and then see how you feel
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:03 pm
I like the instrumentation of 1 at 1:30 but 2 is more my speed.
Do we actually want to play the 'let's predict who submitted what while watching who votes where game?'
Suppose we should.
???
I feel like this goes against the spirit of the game
I feel this is a somewhat wolfy perspective
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:15 pm
by falcon45ca
It's wolfy, as it asks players to not consider who they are voting for, but the only the song.
I've mentioned I'm voting for the song I enjoy the most, but for Sheep to bring up w/ such fervor (multiple ? marks), it's almost as tho they are alarmed Town may decide to try and vote for the player, more than the song
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:34 pm
by Porscha
Yeh i wasnt a fan either
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:54 pm
by LoRab
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:18 am
ok we are on same page... I wonder about everyone else
I've been in a few walrus's w/ her, and it strikes me as something she'd sub...so does Cloud Cult, but Holy Holy just seems to be a bit more up her alley IMO.
Of course, watch me be so so wrong and she's silently raging
I've been in a few walrus's w/ her, and it strikes me as something she'd sub...so does Cloud Cult, but Holy Holy just seems to be a bit more up her alley IMO.
Of course, watch me be so so wrong and she's silently raging
I've been in a few walrus's w/ her, and it strikes me as something she'd sub...so does Cloud Cult, but Holy Holy just seems to be a bit more up her alley IMO.
Of course, watch me be so so wrong and she's silently raging
Sorry to be old, but important question:
What is a walrus?
It's a mammal with skin teeth and eyeballs.
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:27 pm
by DrWilgy
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:19 am
so what do you guys like about the second one over the first one
Bass.
I'm pretty sure it's the bass.
Kinda odd for me, as I've never really thought about music in this much depth. I either like it or I don't normally.
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:28 pm
by DrWilgy
Now, I will admit, the feeling I get for voting in line with Pyx and Sheep is kinda icky.
As 'who I'm voting with' counts as any criteria, I may swap lol
Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:29 pm
by pyxxy
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:28 pm
Now, I will admit, the feeling I get for voting in line with Pyx and Sheep is kinda icky.
As 'who I'm voting with' counts as any criteria, I may swap lol
