The Syndicate

Someone tag me when Night 0 is close to the end. I'll vote then.

I see I have to pick a door. I picked 5. See you Day 1.

Good evening infidels.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:48 am I will probably not scumhunt in this game at all. Just a fair warning.

Thanks for making this easy.

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:11 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 10:24 pm Someone tag me when Night 0 is close to the end. I'll vote then.
good

Nah.

You're bad.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:49 am HARD CLAIM VANILLA TOWN

I believe this.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:06 am why did most duplicate

i didnt pick 8

does my phone want me to reconsider

sp00ky

You're just lucky I never lynch new people Day 1.

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:51 am
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:27 am Good morning all and welcome Scirrus!

So those tildes under Powers. Back in the old, old, old days that represented text that we were supposed to try and fill in to discover what was being said (in this case what powers are in the game). Anyone else remember the tilde exercises? I think I'll ask G-Man what the deal is and ask him to respond in the thread.
The tildes are indeed an echo of a long lost era. The section filled in with tildes is a puzzle for you players to solve. You do not need to submit guesses as to what they mean, but it is in your best interest to decipher the information they mask. The tildes will reveal their secrets in due time.

It's the password to Trumps twitter account. I already know it. That's why I've been making Trump's tweets sound so crazy.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:11 pm hey- reading up now

Hey. You're bad.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:09 pm everyone who's not in door 11 is missing out. i found trump's concubines.

My man wrecks last few laps.

I can't believe this shit.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:11 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:06 pm Is this our first time actually playing together, 112?
Unless you were in Inception it might be
I was too busy hosting it to play in it.

What can you tell me about 112 the mafia player that I might not already know?
I'm better at solving the game in my head than I am at explaining why I think what I do.

That's false because your job isn't to do things in your head. Your job is to do things in here where everybody can see them.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:32 pm Dad where have you been all these years

Unfortunately with your mother.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:42 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:38 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:30 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:27 am Good morning all and welcome Scirrus!

So those tildes under Powers. Back in the old, old, old days that represented text that we were supposed to try and fill in to discover what was being said (in this case what powers are in the game). Anyone else remember the tilde exercises? I think I'll ask G-Man what the deal is and ask him to respond in the thread.
This post feels a bit wordier than it needs to be. Stressing that she’s going to ask G-man feels like she’s going out of her way to demonstrate her forward-thinkingness. But that’s more of a mild ping for juliets than it would be for others.
I was just trying to explain it clearly because I knew most people wouldn't be familiar with it. I'm not sure what you are saying about forward thinkingness but that's ok. You can explain later if you still have issues with it.
Like "I'm going to ask the host so that he can explain it to us, Fellow Townies."

There's not much you could say about this anyway. I'm more interested in hearing whether or not you've got any reads at this stage.

No. Just no. You no better than this.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:16 pm I would certainly hope that no one has any solid reads at this point. It'd be a mistake to think so. But it should be possible to have impressions of things. That's more what I'm asking for at this stage.

This is shit.

A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:54 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:48 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:06 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:08 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 10:09 pm This game will be the best game in the history of mafia. People keep saying to me, "Escape From Trump Tower" is the best game.
good

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:09 am Unoriginal, think a baddie Sloonei does better there
I mean I’ll take it, but what?
Using the theme to crack a joke and make an entrance, meme-ing using Trump quotes feels unoriginal. It's actually something I'd be pinged about usually, like it's more prevalent for scum to break the ice that way. It's a nice way to sling some shits, and get stuff going.

Not this time though
I feel like trying to form a read on an entrance like that is more scum-breaking-icey than the entrance itself.
do you think town go about breaking the ice a different way? or is it something you don't expect town to do or care?

It's cute that we're talking about breaking ice.

How about talking about Sloonei?

Sloonei, who is bad?

Scirrus - good
Sloonei - bad

Keep moving folks. I have shit to do.

I don't find you intimidating. I also don't think you're mafia.

Mafia Sloonei is now caught and coaching his teammates on how to deal with this.

Be mindful.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:20 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:52 pm A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.
It was Day 0 at that point. I was responding to a couple of people who expressed a lack of conviction at that point. I do not expect anyone to have things figured out at this stage, and I would not want them to pretend to either.

No sir.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:16 pm I would certainly hope that no one has any solid reads at this point. It'd be a mistake to think so. But it should be possible to have impressions of things. That's more what I'm asking for at this stage.

"I do not expect" is not the same thing as "I would certainly hope."

That's a horrifying image and reminds me I need to go to bed.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:20 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:52 pm A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.
It was Day 0 at that point. I was responding to a couple of people who expressed a lack of conviction at that point. I do not expect anyone to have things figured out at this stage, and I would not want them to pretend to either.
No sir.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:16 pm I would certainly hope that no one has any solid reads at this point. It'd be a mistake to think so. But it should be possible to have impressions of things. That's more what I'm asking for at this stage.
"I do not expect" is not the same thing as "I would certainly hope."
I would certainly hope that no one thinks they have developed any solid reads at that stage in the game.

Hey Sloonei.

Guess what?

I have developed two.

Two solids.

You might say I made a number two.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:52 pm A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.
Tell me a little bit about Sloonei

Does he have trouble keeping a town mindset as scum?

I agree that not wanting solid reads is not really a pro-town thing to say

But I feel like experienced scum would try to avoid saying things like that, because they would look bad. And he strikes me as an experienced player

Sloonei is an excellent civilian. He's a thread leader and a facilitator in the sense that he welcomes and explores hot takes. He also bounces around with his votes to see what comes of it.

He struggles to maintain a civilian facade as mafia. That isn't to say he can't do it. He can.

And not that I buy into post count meaning much, but Sloonei with 25 posts at this point is pretty...shall I say it?

Uninspiring.

I think he's caught and he's clammed up.

I'm still a touch behind and will remain as such until after Worms tonight.

112 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:51 am Juliets seems towny by my meta of her. She doesn't use contractions and writes pretty bluntly sometimes, so she always looks kinda sketch, but I'd lean town on her right now owing to the complicatedness of her Sloonei read- I think she's being genuine when she says she doesn't know how to read him well and is concerned with being fooled again. She says she's reading him more as town now, but it's an early back-and-forth type read and those tend to come from townies more often than wolves; wolves are more inclined to stick with an early read throughout a greater duration of the round and don't flip-flop so soon. I think she's showing true uncertainty.

Regarding Sloonei, I can see him as a wolf personally. His questions don't seem to go anywhere and he's forcing the humour a bit.

"Doesn't use contractions."

That's some new age level adverbial shit right there.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:30 pm Juliets/nova/112 are off the table for me, Epi and sloonei probably too. Probably scirrus too actually.

Someone sell me on a vote outside that group please, I don’t want to do more work

Why is Sloonei off the table? What has Sloonei accomplished this Day 1 phase to make him unworthy of death and despair?

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:23 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:30 pm Juliets/nova/112 are off the table for me, Epi and sloonei probably too. Probably scirrus too actually.

Someone sell me on a vote outside that group please, I don’t want to do more work
Replace me with nanook and the same players are off the table for me. I'll also throw in Dizzy.

I figure most people are working though and may not be able to post during the day so I'll wait and see who brings what to the party tonight. I guess for MP though it will be tomorrow (based on his earlier post).

Same question as above.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:52 pm A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.
Feels nitpicky, but I can see where you're coming from with this one at least.

Am I not supposed to nitpick?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:49 pm
Spoiler: show
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:42 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:38 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:30 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:27 am Good morning all and welcome Scirrus!

So those tildes under Powers. Back in the old, old, old days that represented text that we were supposed to try and fill in to discover what was being said (in this case what powers are in the game). Anyone else remember the tilde exercises? I think I'll ask G-Man what the deal is and ask him to respond in the thread.
This post feels a bit wordier than it needs to be. Stressing that she’s going to ask G-man feels like she’s going out of her way to demonstrate her forward-thinkingness. But that’s more of a mild ping for juliets than it would be for others.
I was just trying to explain it clearly because I knew most people wouldn't be familiar with it. I'm not sure what you are saying about forward thinkingness but that's ok. You can explain later if you still have issues with it.
Like "I'm going to ask the host so that he can explain it to us, Fellow Townies."

There's not much you could say about this anyway. I'm more interested in hearing whether or not you've got any reads at this stage.
No. Just no. You no better than this.
What do you mean?

I mean that Sloonei's "nitpick" here is one that I don't believe he believes.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:03 pm Now I know I'm me, but I shouldn't probably be top poster after only jumping into the game like an hour ago if we want to win this. *brings out the pom poms*

If you used the multiquote feature we now have, you would have maybe four or five posts.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:53 am I also liked Epi coming in and poking/prodding people. We don't agree on Sloonei right now but that's ok, I just like Epi's behavior. Seems towny.
Does Epi tend to be more reserved or agreeable as scum? Any notable differences?

Epi...agreeable.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:14 am Jack is a stupid lynch and people are just voting for Sloonei cause he said something about “having no hard reads” like half a dozen posts in and everyone went rah

Fake news.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:08 am Just woke up, have read some of what was posted since I ducked out yesterday.

The culture on my homesite is to always lynch claimed 3Ps. Is it different here? I'd lynch Dys right now and it's not really close.

If that's true, then why would anybody ever claim to be an independent?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:41 am
Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:55 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:29 am I forgot to say hi to Scirrus (I normally greet players I haven’t played with before) but he’s posted so much it feels awkward to do it now.
Hi Jack! I'm Scirrus. I like pina coladas, long walks on the beach, and killing mafia! Wbu?
Hi, Scirrus.

I like Total Warhammer and making fun of libertarians.

And he's pretty bad at both...

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:57 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:54 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:47 am I would vote Dizzy over Sloonei, but that's not saying much. I'd rather pressure some other folks before we lynch Dizzy if we're going to do that.
Why is it between the two here?
It doesn't have to be; it's just that Sloonei still has 4 votes right now and I'd rather not see him die even if he doesn't post more today tbh.

So what does it take for Sloonei to be lynched Day 1 for you?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:12 pm I'd like to know what Epi thinks more about players that are non-Sloonei.

I have opinions. I'll voice them when I'm ready.

Damn I lost my place.

Wait nope handy dandy MP arrow points me back there. Cool.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:16 pm I absolutely hate that 4-person wagon on Sloonei. It's static. It's not pushing the game forward in any way. If there's one reason to ever lynch Mac here, that'd be one. I understand Epi's vote being there, but I'd encourage those voters to at least more actively consider other options.

If Sloonei is scum and I'm actively now arguing to avoid his lynch d1, then lol, but if he is scum I'm confident we can catch him with strong town play.

What the hell is wrong with a static lynch if it's the right one?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:21 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:19 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:17 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:14 pm Oh, also Nanook, Mac got lynched Day 1 when he was IMO clear town in Banjo. He's obviously not clear town here, but I would feel like ass lynching him d1 again here. So *shrug*, that's another reason I'd put him in the let's give him another day category I suppose.
I thought he was clearly town that game too IIRC, doesn’t affect my desire to kill or not kill him here
You have a more logical mafia brain than I do then, and I commend you.
I’ve also played games with him since, tbf
Ah, yeah, that's the last game I've played with him and it'd be nice to actually play with him here.

I do hate his Sloonei vote though. @MacDougall, do something about that please. Place it on a different person or wagon so we can get some dynamic progression before we shrug lynch Sloonei on Day 1. Anything for more information.

Fuck lynching for information.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:24 pm Even for those players who do think they've caught scum Sloonei, who are his teammates then? There's more work to be done. A static gamestate actively hurts our faction.

That's a Day 2 problem.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:10 pm I just read through Sloonei's posts. He posted exactly 4 times yesterday (Tuesday) and hasn't posted at all today. That's not looking good. I understand he's playing another game but he's got no time at all to post in this one on the day we have EOD? I don't like it, the only question for me is whether MP7 is right and we should give him another day because his value if he's town is high. (Is that +EV? Still not 100% sure on how that term is used)

Other than Sloonei, I'm looking toward LC or Soneji for a vote. Since LC and Sloonei already have some heat I'm going to throw a vote Soneji's way.

It's +EV if he's providing value.

Sloonei is not providing value. Therefore it is -EV keeping him around right now (and I know he's asked about that, so I will go into more detail when I get to the post).

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:56 pm im in too many twgs at once

im also safe mns gotten less scary

twgs

mns

Do you speak English?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:21 pm i just realized that people are actually voting for me. that is silly.

Make me feel silly for voting you then.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:29 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:27 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:57 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:54 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:47 am I would vote Dizzy over Sloonei, but that's not saying much. I'd rather pressure some other folks before we lynch Dizzy if we're going to do that.
Why is it between the two here?
It doesn't have to be; it's just that Sloonei still has 4 votes right now and I'd rather not see him die even if he doesn't post more today tbh.
So what does it take for Sloonei to be lynched Day 1 for you?
You have been the most vocal opponent to the strategy of lynching me on Day 1 in the past. What changed?

Ah, here we are.

Lynching you Day 1 is usually a bad idea. I don't think I have to explain why. I think you know why. But here it is anyway: On paper, any individual is more likely to be a civilian than any other alignment. All things being equal, it makes sense to let those who work more than anybody else get a sense of who is not. In this particular scenario, you have done nothing to make me think you are worth keeping around until Day 2. You look caught, tongue-tied, and like anything else you say at this point is going to be used against your teammates. This is the very first time I have witnessed such a thing from you in recent memory.

I have no clue whom you even remotely suspect and the Day phase is almost over. You are mafia.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:29 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:27 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:57 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:54 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:47 am I would vote Dizzy over Sloonei, but that's not saying much. I'd rather pressure some other folks before we lynch Dizzy if we're going to do that.
Why is it between the two here?
It doesn't have to be; it's just that Sloonei still has 4 votes right now and I'd rather not see him die even if he doesn't post more today tbh.
So what does it take for Sloonei to be lynched Day 1 for you?
You have been the most vocal opponent to the strategy of lynching me on Day 1 in the past. What changed?
I had just noted this. Something to be curious about

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:34 pm To the people voting me, and anyone else who might be concerned: I don’t have the energy to be my usual self in this game. I still intend to play, but I don’t anticipate that I’ll be the person who energizes the thread or posts huge walls of text.

Nobody was asking for energy or huge walls of text.

If I was the author of your posts, what would you think of me?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:56 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:51 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:47 pm Why are you asking/looking for that?
I just want to look at a game where you were mafia when there was only one mafia team so I can see what your play was like. I often look at someone's past games to help me with meta.
You might be thinking of Ancient Greece, but that was ages ago. I've had three scum wins in the last year or so: GoC, The Wire, and Phenon Origins, which was a sock puppet game so I doubt you'd have specific memories of me in there if you even played it. None of them match the description of what you're looking for.

Talk about people.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:59 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:57 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:10 pm I just read through Sloonei's posts. He posted exactly 4 times yesterday (Tuesday) and hasn't posted at all today. That's not looking good. I understand he's playing another game but he's got no time at all to post in this one on the day we have EOD? I don't like it, the only question for me is whether MP7 is right and we should give him another day because his value if he's town is high. (Is that +EV? Still not 100% sure on how that term is used)

Other than Sloonei, I'm looking toward LC or Soneji for a vote. Since LC and Sloonei already have some heat I'm going to throw a vote Soneji's way.
It's +EV if he's providing value.

Sloonei is not providing value. Therefore it is -EV keeping him around right now (and I know he's asked about that, so I will go into more detail when I get to the post).
alright yeah that's basically what i said.

But lynching me because I'm not posting as much as I usually am is not the right play. That has zilch to do with my alignment.

I don't think I ever said that I'm voting for you because you're not posting as much.

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