The Syndicate

Not gonna lie, I was hoping I'd get Jack Nicholson. Didn't, but I wasn't disappointed either.

Ooo, I wonder if there's a Jack Daniels? That would be cool.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:34 pm Masons just seem dumb to me.

Millers.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:00 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:58 pm
Who is lying about being a miller lite?
uh i think tony might be telling the truth?

nanook and fg i think are just joking

I thought they were memeing.

They're acting like it's Day 0, either way.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:16 am KitsuShel is a name I don't know.

As a child, my nightmares were haunted by a demon named Kidseoman. He pretended to be a friend or family member but then would rip off his face, trying to get me to look at his horrifying real face which kills you if you look at it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:23 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:21 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:16 am KitsuShel is a name I don't know.
As a child, my nightmares were haunted by a demon named Kidseoman. He pretended to be a friend or family member but then would rip off his face, trying to get me to look at his horrifying real face which kills you if you look at it.
That's that thing you painted earlier that I said I would buy.

Originally the demon face was based off the half-formed clone in The Last Starfighter.

...except scarier through a child's eyes. The face went through changes across nightmares. I never saw it directly, because I would always cover my eyes in time, but in the darkness behind my eyelids, the face would be coming at me, getting larger, as disorienting music and song would play loud in my ears. His song.

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:30 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:29 am
Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:28 am can u fucking not?
Eh?
the picture lol
its just mildly disturbing, and I prefer it behind a spoiler or something

Sorry.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:44 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:40 am
Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:30 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:29 am
Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:28 am can u fucking not?
Eh?
the picture lol
its just mildly disturbing, and I prefer it behind a spoiler or something
Sorry.
Who is bad?

Nanook. [VOTE: nanook] aubergine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:52 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:48 am i will say though, for someone that claims to not care how people read you, you... seem to care quite a bit from how you react to suspiscion
I don’t recall claiming I don’t care how people read me?

I broadly don’t react to “prodding to do something” votes, but I do get irritated sometimes when people have bad reads on me for certain reasons. Chief amongst those reasons is what amounts to “I don’t like how you play so you must be mafia,” it’s very irritating. I’m genuinely not that hard to read most games.

I also dislike the “lol nanook does nothing” narrative that people push sometimes, in game and out, it’s fucking annoying and not generally true.

Can I get this post tattooed on my back?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:43 am LC your nightmare stuff sounds truly horrifying. My nightmares always seem to be about an animal attacking me

Also scary. Do you believe all the Miller claims? If they're all true, then the scum team is going to have an easy time picking off power roles, if there are any.

There could be a wolf in there, who knows? I believe Hally and Tony.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:15 amWhy Tony?

I don't think he's the type to fake claim that right after Hally, and the claims after his help me believe his.

General

Epi: 100% agree with both those mullets.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:55 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:47 am In hindsight, I have entirely screwed up the town to mafia ratio in this game since I've given the entire town my unchoppableness. I think adding eight more wolves and a vigilante or two will set things right. Please stand by for new role pms.

Spoiler: show

I was just going to say it would be funny if jack created a game that was just all town. It would be like a monsters are due on maple street type deal. Jack is the only real mafia making us all turn on each other.

What's maple street?

I love this idea, but the way to do it is one mafia and several millers.

Purity tell. Tsk tsk. Can we lynch JJJ on Day 1?

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:11 am @Epignosis
talk to me about this Nanook meta you have
Why doesn't he die day 1?

For the record, this has never been a thing before Epi decided it was in this very game.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:27 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:55 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:47 am In hindsight, I have entirely screwed up the town to mafia ratio in this game since I've given the entire town my unchoppableness. I think adding eight more wolves and a vigilante or two will set things right. Please stand by for new role pms.

Spoiler: show

I was just going to say it would be funny if jack created a game that was just all town. It would be like a monsters are due on maple street type deal. Jack is the only real mafia making us all turn on each other.

this “what if we’re all town” speculation is, in my experience, more likely to actually come from town

I like that take. Sabie town.

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:28 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:27 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:55 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:47 am In hindsight, I have entirely screwed up the town to mafia ratio in this game since I've given the entire town my unchoppableness. I think adding eight more wolves and a vigilante or two will set things right. Please stand by for new role pms.

Spoiler: show

I was just going to say it would be funny if jack created a game that was just all town. It would be like a monsters are due on maple street type deal. Jack is the only real mafia making us all turn on each other.

this “what if we’re all town” speculation is, in my experience, more likely to actually come from town
no thanks

Welp
Friends can disagree, right?

I'm probably not going to get into the other pile.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:59 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:56 pm I'm probably not going to get into the other pile.
but its so nice in the other pile! all the cool kids are there!

LOL definitely something I'm used to

Yo, I'm here.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:32 pm KITSUSHEL bad
SABIE12 good
EPIGNOSIS good
ALISON good

Is the Kit rating in relation to the goodness of the other three?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:35 pm DRWILGY good
SPRITYO good
SPACEDAISY good
WISP good

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:38 pm COLINISCOOL good
LONG CON good
TONYSTARKPRIME good

Are we done?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:40 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:38 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:29 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:20 pm Also yes I agree there’s very likely at least one if not more scum in the zero to very low posters.
literally rand%
Why is that equal to a random distribution?
if we assume a 3:1 wolf ratio, there's likely at least a wolf in the low - no posters.

anyways everyone except you have too many "bads" to make sense really. 1. and 2. where the hell did spacedaisy's reads even come from? or the sprityo reads. are you guys really gonna miskill him again? i think the blanket suspicion is a good look imo but eh it's too early to form any type of read on that slot

y'all

y'all
why are you overreacting? How is he a mis-kill?
1. not overreacting.

2. sprityo was killed last game i played because he was magically scum read by everyone except me basically. and he flipped town. do i think he's town now? i mean not necessarily. he's null for me

Are you sure you didn't just TMI slip a little on sprityo there?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:48 pm jjj more like fff, 1 f for each person who has to be his wolf partner

Why are they f's? Like, for fuck?

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:40 pm
KitsuShel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:37 pm Ok, so. I’ve finally gotten through the entire thread. And this basically boils down to y’all chatting/arguing with each other and metagaming the first day? Or am I misreading?
For the most part I think this has been about getting reads on each other. The game started somewhat spammy, but it has solidified into a well-oiled machine of Mafia work. Some of that is arguing and some of that metagaming, but not all of it. Do you have feelings about any players after catching up?
Gut feeling might be that sprityo, long con, and tony are scum.

Welcome To The Syndicate.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:54 pm The "winner" of the Who Gave the Most Good Reads? sweepstakes is Long Con, at least by proportion. Otherwise it's me, but we don't care about that. No, no, we don't care about that. Unless @Long Con has multiple mafia reads among the four he missed, then there is a considerable shortage of suspicion there. That's not great, as I don't see much in his post history to this point that suggests to me he should have developed such a comfortable view of the game state.

JJJ is scum. He's played countless games with me and knows perfectly well that this is how my Day 1 generally goes. I don't tend to jump on a whole bunch of people with scumreads or add people to my "towncore". "Shortage of suspicion" from me should easily be identified as NAI, and the fact that he's trying to prod suspicion on me for it is solid proof that he's not on the level. He's generally trying too hard to do the Town JJJ Song & Dance and impress the newcomers, but I've played with him for years, and this is not town Jimmy. GTH exercise not even halfway into Day 1?? WTFmullet? What a dog and pony show, how many people hadn't even posted yet? GTH reads? Are you kidding me?

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine and I don't really give a damn that I'll probably get lynched today for this. He's scum. Keep him around for the good times if you want.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:11 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:49 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:43 am LC your nightmare stuff sounds truly horrifying. My nightmares always seem to be about an animal attacking me
Also scary. Do you believe all the Miller claims? If they're all true, then the scum team is going to have an easy time picking off power roles, if there are any.
what the heck is this

Well, I was talking with my friend sabie...

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:32 pm Mafia-aligned Long Con responded to suspicion from me with loud No Us in Take Me Out to the Ballgame.

Can you not annoy me with that emoji

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:34 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:33 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:32 pm Mafia-aligned Long Con responded to suspicion from me with loud No Us in Take Me Out to the Ballgame.
so?

I like his entrance
He just did it again. I noticed the parallel immediately and said it.

You're still scum. I can't think of any other reason for you to misrepresent my Day 1 play like that. "...there is a considerable shortage of suspicion there. That's not great, as I don't see much in his post history to this point that suggests to me he should have developed such a comfortable view of the game state." You dirty scum, YOU ARE THE ONE that put GTH, where you CAN'T have null reads, into effect. I followed YOUR RULES and forced stupid, uninformed reads into the thread, and then you have the nerve to try and turn that around on ME?

I'm getting upset. I want to jam the Vote button over and over.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:37 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:33 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:32 pm Mafia-aligned Long Con responded to suspicion from me with loud No Us in Take Me Out to the Ballgame.
Can you not annoy me with that emoji
Alrighty.

You groaned about me running a GTH exercise halfway through Day 1. There's a reason I've done that. In the recently-completed town slaughter of the MU champs tournament Game 6, I ran a GTH exercise... halfway through Day 1. And I caught two of the three mafia with it. Also, only one player had not made a post (still Colin).

It's never too early to solve the game. I'm here to slaughter, maim, and destroy with my teammates by my side. That IS civilian JJJ, perhaps with a newfound confidence and inspiration that you haven't seen for a while. I did hate playing this game for the last two years after all.

Your complaining that I shouldn't be suspecting you or whatever is outrageously overdone. "solid proof" give me a break dude

I will not give you a break.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:38 pm it could be W/W

this spike in hostility seems artificial

You seem artificial. Like playing with Data.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:34 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:33 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:32 pm Mafia-aligned Long Con responded to suspicion from me with loud No Us in Take Me Out to the Ballgame.
so?

I like his entrance
He just did it again. I noticed the parallel immediately and said it.
You're still scum. I can't think of any other reason for you to misrepresent my Day 1 play like that. "...there is a considerable shortage of suspicion there. That's not great, as I don't see much in his post history to this point that suggests to me he should have developed such a comfortable view of the game state." You dirty scum, YOU ARE THE ONE that put GTH, where you CAN'T have null reads, into effect. I followed YOUR RULES and forced stupid, uninformed reads into the thread, and then you have the nerve to try and turn that around on ME?
I have been promoting the notion that mafia give more town reads on average than mafia give in that exercise for the last five years. This isn't the first time you've seen that.

Your caps lock is silly.

Yeah, 'cause you expect Long Con to remember each of your 30,000 posts.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:40 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:38 pm it could be W/W

this spike in hostility seems artificial
His reaction to me is a joke. Whatever his alignment, it's a joke.

What's the punchline?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:34 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:33 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:32 pm Mafia-aligned Long Con responded to suspicion from me with loud No Us in Take Me Out to the Ballgame.
so?

I like his entrance
He just did it again. I noticed the parallel immediately and said it.
You're still scum. I can't think of any other reason for you to misrepresent my Day 1 play like that. "...there is a considerable shortage of suspicion there. That's not great, as I don't see much in his post history to this point that suggests to me he should have developed such a comfortable view of the game state." You dirty scum, YOU ARE THE ONE that put GTH, where you CAN'T have null reads, into effect. I followed YOUR RULES and forced stupid, uninformed reads into the thread, and then you have the nerve to try and turn that around on ME?
I have been promoting the notion that mafia give more town reads on average than mafia give in that exercise for the last five years. This isn't the first time you've seen that.

Your caps lock is silly.

So you think I should remember that, eh? But not WHILE I'm doing GTH. Only after. I'm probably scum who has selective fucking amnesia. You could see my many "good"s as evidence that I'm NOT trying to bolster my reads to fit your oft-touted Big Scumcatching Plan that of course everyone remembers. But no, that wouldn't fit would it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:40 pm Yeah, 'cause you expect Long Con to remember each of your 30,000 posts.
You don't have to remember all of my posts, but I've just reminded you. What are you going to do with it?

Suspect you more, per my previous post.

I am incredibly melodramatic. Another trait JJJ could have acknowledged but whatever

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:44 pm @Long Con
in the words of Shadowlancer
"Everyone has to deal with pressure (misapplied, tactical, or justified), so find ways to cope with it. "
just breathe, like damn

I've been told it's bad to bottle things up.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:45 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:43 pm So you think I should remember that, eh? But not WHILE I'm doing GTH. Only after. I'm probably scum who has selective fucking amnesia. You could see my many "good"s as evidence that I'm NOT trying to bolster my reads to fit your oft-touted Big Scumcatching Plan that of course everyone remembers. But no, that wouldn't fit would it.
You tried to scream and yell me out of my suspicion in Take Me Out to the Ballgame, and it failed utterly. Go solve the game or stop wasting my time. You're not moving me at all.

I don't care what you do. I just want you lynched.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:45 pm I am incredibly melodramatic. Another trait JJJ could have acknowledged but whatever
I didn't really see it in the Space Invaders game.

I think it would be sort of funny if JJJ and LC were both scum and JJJ is going into the scum thread like "what the fuck LC? that was the fakest reaction I've ever seen. You literally just outed both of us."

I didn't feel it in that one.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:47 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:43 pm So you think I should remember that, eh? But not WHILE I'm doing GTH. Only after. I'm probably scum who has selective fucking amnesia. You could see my many "good"s as evidence that I'm NOT trying to bolster my reads to fit your oft-touted Big Scumcatching Plan that of course everyone remembers. But no, that wouldn't fit would it.
I don't figure you, as a mafioso, care about the potential for this accusation until it actually happens. Then you flail your arms in this ridiculous manner and try to wrest control from me by brute force. You've done this more than once. If you're a civilian it's incredibly toxic to the health of the thread. So stop it.

Yeah, I know you're really good for the thread. I can't let that stop me from voting you when you are scum. How can you expect that?

Honestly, most of my posts don't get read. If I want people to vote for you, a little extra is sometimes needed.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:59 pm I don’t believe it’s W/W

Long Con comes from an older generation of mafia in this community. We come from the same mafia background. It’s my experience that he tends to protect teammates rather than call attention to them.

I think it’s either a genuine town rage or he’s a wolf who is overreacting about something that I don’t think many of us were thinking much about.

That's not true either. I bus my teammates more than most.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:51 pm Honestly, most of my posts don't get read. If I want people to vote for you, a little extra is sometimes needed.
Do you genuinely think that people are more likely to read your posts when you use a lot of all caps and post walls of text about how JJJ is definitely scum?

I think you know very well that people just skim over the specifics of posts like that and just leave with the general impression that LC was violently attacking JJJ without thinking too deep about the details of how and why it happened. Which is why I'm starting to suspect that it is W/W.

I'll take it. Lynch him first though.

Obviously the only way to suspect JJJ is to be a wolf. :nod:

What if she's scum and I'm not?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:14 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:11 pm What if she's scum and I'm not?
It mostly depends how exactly Hally approached it and why she chose not to vote you. Whether it's wanting to get a scum buddy off the hook, not wanting to be involved with lynch of someone who flips town or just not wanting to get her hands dirty as scum.

The point is: if you flip scum, Hally, you aren't going to fool me with this act a second time.

Just making sure.

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