The Syndicate

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:17 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:39 pm Wilgy is probably outed scum because dyachei and DkKoba got mischopped over him. In what world does that happen if Wilgy is town?

Wat?

dyachei and DkKoba are stubborn townies who can make themselves extremely difficult to exe. On the other hand you are one of the most common misexes on the Syndicate, even in anon games (suggesting it is something about your playstyle that makes people want to exe you). Therefore I would expect the exe to be on you instead of them if all three of you are town. That you have survived and they have not, without any mech info on any of you, suggests that you are being protected by a partner, either directly by them calling you town, or indirectly by them turning up the aggression on dyachei and koba to keep the heat off you. This is one of the reasons why I wanted to blast the dyachei wagon if Made flips red for instance.

Made is a more common mischop that wilgy imo

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:02 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:55 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:52 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:42 pm Some dick roleblocked me

[VOTE: Urist] aubergine

Yes i'm playing 11d chess and claimed being rb'd after carrying the kill
Plus town has a second rb for some reason good thinking scotty

Point 1) is worthless to me. If you kept quiet about it the real roleblocker would immediately out you. Your only hope is to do what a townie would do and claim it. Therefore you would claim rb'd as either mafia or town.

Point 2) is eh. Could be a jailkeeper. Could be a JOAT with a single roleblock. Could be some weird mech shit. We have someone claiming to be literally unkillable, why can't we have 2 roleblockers?

So technically all i know is that my action was not successful. I'm assuming blocked for no real reason tbh since it is role madness and maybe the person I targeted was just actionimmune.

If I were mafia carrying the kill then I would have no reason to claim; the kill could have been prevented in any number of ways and there would be no reason to draw attention to myself.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:13 pm Are blocks loud this game? Did Poison get an explicit message saying she was blocked or did her action just quietly fail?

Everyone is told whether their action is successful regardless of what type of action it is.

I'm just gonna claim because i stopped giving a fuck a long time ago. I'm a straightup doctor and I protected ted n1 and scotty n2. If someone else could have prevented the kill they should claim now bc they are probably the reason.

Killing top posters is protown

But i'm just going to stay on epi or tutuu forever until either they're dead or i am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:19 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:17 pm But i'm just going to stay on epi or tutuu forever until either they're dead or i am

I am not voting Epi unless there is a dayvig counterclaim.

So you think that the evil witch hunter flavoured dayvig is a town vig when town has a separate dayvig
Alright

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:29 pm I shot the sheriff stopped the nightkill!

I think.

I know my action was successful and with Doc (Urist) unsuccessful it highly suggests I was the one who did it.

Unless someone else did something else which is highly possible.

BUT if I did then I know the identity of one scum. I will not confirm who it is until later today for thread health purposes.

Yes this is why i claimed ty

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:55 pm It doesn't matter, nobody is gonna want to kill him and then we're gonna get to endgame and either people will collectively shrug and kill epi then pat themselves on the back as if they're geniuses and he was hard to catch...or they won't kill him and say in post how it was impossible to catch him

2 real 4 me

If we win i will say gg ez
If we lose i will say nothing but i will complain to my gf about how bad the players are on mafiathesyndicatedotcom

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:15 pm My new roommates are really fervent hockey fans. They support the Toronto Maple Leafs and when the season starts they are gonna drag a TV into the dorm and make me watch games with them.

@falcon45ca @BoKnows @Master Radishes I know you guys told me not to support the Leafs but I have to now.

They are also into baseball and support the Blue Jays. But I told them I'm not watching baseball because it's a shit game.

That's unfortunate.
On the plus side, once the playoffs start you won't have to watch games anymore.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:23 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:21 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:15 pm My new roommates are really fervent hockey fans. They support the Toronto Maple Leafs and when the season starts they are gonna drag a TV into the dorm and make me watch games with them.

@falcon45ca @BoKnows @Master Radishes I know you guys told me not to support the Leafs but I have to now.

They are also into baseball and support the Blue Jays. But I told them I'm not watching baseball because it's a shit game.

That's unfortunate.
On the plus side, once the playoffs start you won't have to watch games anymore.

They told me that if I hear them crying in their rooms it's normal and not to bother them.

Loooooool

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:26 pm IF EPI ISNT MOD KILLED RIGHT NOW FOR BREAKING THE FORUM RULES ABOUT NO EDITING I WILL BE SO MAD /sarcasm

Mod said not to discuss modkills
You should be modkilled immediately for this dire infraction imho

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:34 pm I got yelled at by my gf for abandoning her during her birthday to play a forum game for nerds lol.

Gonna go be with her for real for at least a few hours, bye now.

Get her a mafiathesyndicate account for her bday present i'm sure she'd appreciate it

Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:01 pm Wait Alison?Lemme check the host posts smh.

Alison replaced you

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:13 pm I guess I'm just frustrated. But I'm not going to argue with a BS claim.

I still want Syn out as they were 100% saved.

RIP Rondo. You'll die after I flip as I townfirm you.

che sara sara, gotta vote with alison or scotty if they want me im gone

My people have a saying it's "k sara sara" it's about how this bitch whose first and last names are both sara is gonna do whatever she wants and you just gotta accept it and say 'k'

Ruri wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:34 pm I want to lament the short notice to go back to work. I'm so not ready for this.. I have so many things to live for that aren't done yet.

Like what

I have a crazy role, it fits really well into this madness game. Basically if the person i target is targeted by a killing action, i block the person who targeted my target, but i only block the killing part of their action

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:43 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:40 pm I have a crazy role, it fits really well into this madness game. Basically if the person i target is targeted by a killing action, i block the person who targeted my target, but i only block the killing part of their action

I'm not as confident I blocked now.

It's just another way of saying doctor

Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:42 pm why is everyone claiming wtf. STOP CLAIMING. WE BASICALLY KNOW NOTHING, NOT WITH NO ROLE FLIPS. more the claims easier the scums would get away no? what's going on?

Ok i rescind my claim

Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:53 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:50 pm I don't believe Wilgy is a cop btw.

Town is now confirmed to have: an IC, a roleblocker, and a desperado.

Town has claimed: dayvig, doctor, and whatever Ender is, and whatever Poison is.

I don't think it also has a cop. And all of those claims are more believable than Wilgy's. And cop is what you claim when you're mech outed as scum.

doctor claimed? wtf is wrong with everyone and claiming first thing in the morning with no scum flips and absolutely no info from the town flips.

Real talk i just wanted to cement my town cred and maybe secure being nk'd at some point so i can continue to slank

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:08 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:06 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am On my homesite, a doctor and cop in the setup was standard. Any other roles were complementary. IC and desperado can townfirm, but desperado exchanges for a townfirm. In a way, a cop doesn't make much sense with this many townfirms available. But, I'm also not familiar with how this site balances things.

My homesite may have been unbalanced though, considering town always had night talks.

Doctor + Cop is a very very uncommon role combination on the Syndicate, for both balancing and cultural reasons.

There's usually a no double targeting rule that makes that combination feasible, so I wouldn't go down that rabbit hole.

I can consec target fwiw

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:13 am The other thing is that everyone has very complex, intricate abilities. Nobody has an ability that's just "you do this. The end."

Even simple roles like Urist's doctor role are carried out in weird ways like blocking the killer instead of healing the target. (Important for tracks, watches, BGs, lots of stuff.) My IC role has an additional component to it as well.

I dunno. Lots of stuff doesn't add up about this cop claim.

For clarity's sake, that was a joke. I'm just a doctor, no bells or whistles.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:21 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:13 am The other thing is that everyone has very complex, intricate abilities. Nobody has an ability that's just "you do this. The end."

Even simple roles like Urist's doctor role are carried out in weird ways like blocking the killer instead of healing the target. (Important for tracks, watches, BGs, lots of stuff.) My IC role has an additional component to it as well.

I dunno. Lots of stuff doesn't add up about this cop claim.

For clarity's sake, that was a joke. I'm just a doctor, no bells or whistles.

lol cmon brah. i thought ur other stuff were obvious jokes but this thing is a bit sensitive

like mafia having or not having multi-dimensional abilities (can do multiple stuff on the same night) is important to me and to other people too presumably

Sry i will try to be more sensitive to the needs of your soup kill next time

So uh

Apparently my protect on Scotty did not fail last night LOL

#rolemadness

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:10 am I blame Urist for the whole Mech argument now =P

Blame the mod

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:10 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:08 am Apparently my protect on Scotty did not fail last night LOL

Sooo he was attacked and u healed him? Or u just know u havent been roleblocked?

I just know that my action did not fail, not whether it blocked a kill.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:28 pm I’m 4 pages behind but just a reminder- if MR flips red, tutuu is probably cleared since he visited her and I doubt another mafia visits their partner on N1 unless they’re strong arming another, which is possible but unlikely.

there are plenty of reasons for scum to target each other

1. doctor
2. tailor
3. motivator
4. inventor
5. any other number of positive actions

i don't think it's a good reason to anti-pair them.

In before tutuu gets a kill (on herself)

there are 19 people alive and only 11 are voting on the main wagons. v sad.


112
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Voters: None

Alison
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BoKnows
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Voters: Scotty, Ruri, Poison, Michelle, DrWilgy, EnderWiggin

DrWilgy
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7%


Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, sig

EnderWiggin
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Epignosis
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Voters: Urist

falcon45ca
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Made
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MasterRadishes
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Voters: 112, Alison, TonyStarkPrime, tutuu, Epignosis

Michelle
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
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Poison
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RondoDimBuckle
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Voters: BoKnows

Ruri
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Scotty
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sig
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TonyStarkPrime
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tutuu
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Voters: Made, RondoDimBuckle, falcon45ca

Urist
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Voters: None

i still don't understand why made's retroactive claim makes him more likely to be town and at this point i'm too afraid to ask

if the wagons are within one vote at deadline i will force a tie, fair warning

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:25 pm I rolecopped tutuu N1 and hinted as much.

sure you did lol

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:25 pm Role cop – as it sounds

i don't know how this sounds tbh, what kind of result do you get? the actual role or the bs description we get on flip?

MR should out tutuu's role imo

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:10 pm [VOTE: boknows] aubergine

also if yall remember scotty outed that MR visited me n1

scotty also claimed MR visited me with an investigative action n1, and MR confirmed

first of all i think MR was saying the truth or close to the truth bout his role

second of all yall should consider that it looks towny for me. coz if MR is mafia who boosted me n1 or some shit, and he is accused of visiting me with an investigative action by a confirmed townie, do yall think he says "yes i used investigative" if it was a lie?

Yes he would say he used an investigative bc he would know that scotty is full of crap and that it would "clear" you.
I don't believe at all that mr's claim has any significance on your alignment.

I protected ender last night, i love picking the right target and then getting my role overridden anyway

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:00 pm Unless she's exactly with scotty tutu is just town

And uh that's obviously not a world so

Tutu is town

Why?

Wilgy might be the poisoner, he was blocked n2 when there was no poison aye

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:01 pm Customary sod vote on epi

Given that mafia seem to have a poison and a nightkill i doubt they have a daykiller as well

@Justplayingitcool michelle is still in the poll

I'll let someone else do the math but I seriously doubt there were zero mafia on the MR wagon. My money is on tutuu bussing.
Tutuu immediately voting the counterwagon to mafia is terrible lol
If we want to continue to ignore obvious mafia tutuu then we should just kill wilgy or ruri, of the bo voters i think they look the worst.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:11 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:36 pm I'll let someone else do the math but I seriously doubt there were zero mafia on the MR wagon. My money is on tutuu bussing.
Tutuu immediately voting the counterwagon to mafia is terrible lol
If we want to continue to ignore obvious mafia tutuu then we should just kill wilgy or ruri, of the bo voters i think they look the worst.

I agree on the "Possible bussing"

I disagree on who.

Not many people voted for mr. If there was a bus it was one of tutuu, epi or nanook.
And if bo is scum then there was almost certainly a busser or two on mr.
That's why i think tutuu's vote on bo is not great fwiw

MR: *pops into the thread 30 mins before dying just to make a wolfy claim that spews tutuu town*
The town: welp guess tutuu is spewed town now!

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:27 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:24 pm MR: *pops into the thread 30 mins before dying just to make a wolfy claim that spews tutuu town*
The town: welp guess tutuu is spewed town now!

He tried to poke the "Tutu SK" idea on D1.

It's much more than last 30m.

My point is that I struggle to see an intent behind MR's claim that isn't "spew tutuu town".

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:26 am

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:01 pm I protected ender last night, i love picking the right target and then getting my role overridden anyway

why ender over IC/confirmed town/cop claimed

also what's your read on wilgy anyway?

Because i am amazing at reading scum kill targets (and alison was a reflector)

Wilgy could be mafia, i don't have a strong read. Don't like that he claimed his action failed twice now.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:32 am

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:45 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:27 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:24 pm MR: *pops into the thread 30 mins before dying just to make a wolfy claim that spews tutuu town*
The town: welp guess tutuu is spewed town now!

He tried to poke the "Tutu SK" idea on D1.

It's much more than last 30m.

My point is that I struggle to see an intent behind MR's claim that isn't "spew tutuu town".

Can you climb out of your PVC pipe tunnel and make other reads besides tutuu bad?

No

I really feel like if bo were scum that he'd have been bussed harder yesterday to put him over instead of mr. Pretty sure he's just town and scum didn't care to out themselves to save mr.