The Syndicate

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:23 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:01 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:55 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:38 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:44 pm

This was geared towards Wilgz and Neon who have just resorted to omg sabi wolfy for pushing their scumreads how dare they.

Anyway

I already mentioned it.

Town - 100% confidence:
Wwa
Porscha
You
Dennis

Town lead - 75% confidence:
Lily

Town side of null - 60% confidence:
Pyxxy
Neon
Wilgz

Everyone else scummy pile:
Nook
Falcon
Tutuu

This was 6 days ago, and Sabi's reads really haven't changed much at all. I think you've recently expressed a micro tinfoil on Porscha, but that's about it.
Really?

I dropped neon to scum and pyxxy to null

But go off. Tell me how I haven't changed my reads at all
So, hasn't changed much at all does mean there's been some change...you understand that, no?

Dropping your lowest TR slot to SR (after of course Wilgy & tutuu both flip green) and moving 60% pyxxy by 10% to null is not much movement at all.
What exactly am I supposed to. Move?

Seanzie and wwa and Dennis and Porscha are locked town.

That leaves you Nook pyxxy and neon.
You've had 4 lock town for like a week...so, town move their reads all the time, cuz' they don't know. This is much harder to do for Maf.

It's not that I think you have to move to player X or whatever...it's the fact that your reads just haven't moved a lot in a week...with just 1 Maf flip, I'd think you'd be much more sus, but you're still stuck in your static SRs and Lock TRs
I'm curious why people think Sabi is sus for not moving 4 players out of their locktown when i have the exact same 4 players as locktown, I'm basically an IC, and no one has been giving me shit for it.

Because they want to feed Sean paranoia on me and he fuck g ate it all up even tho falcon said infactual things about me it's fine. Because Sean can never find me as town in any town game I have had with him.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:21 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:20 pm Whatever I'm voting falcon and closing out of this tab. I really should have kept to my retirement
Big mood

Can you vote falcon so we cna be done with this please.

Whatever I'm voting falcon and closing out of this tab. I really should have kept to my retirement

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:05 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:40 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:32 pm Why did neon not let a quick hammer happen falcon when he was L-1 and instead unvoted him?

Why did lily defend falcon and made sure no one voted him eod2?
I know you're likely not going to hear this, but I owe it to the thread to do my due diligence and explore situations.

Neon not quickhammering is NAI.

Lily I don't think really defended Falcon. In fact, I'm starting to think perhaps instead Lily was just pushing more for a Tutuu elim. If I'm right about this, why do you think Lily might have wanted Tutuu elimmed?
That's definitely not true. Read her iso and she says she wants tutuu/Sabi wagons because she doesn't think falcon is a hit, but if he has to be a wagon then she prefers tutuu. She didn't outright push tutuu but she was happy to jump on her wagon, and tutuu flipped town.

FUCKING THANK YOU

@Seanzie the moment when Dennis questioned his townread on tutuu because he was reading her off tone and energy and was self aware to acknowledge she was pockety came from a town mindset

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:56 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:33 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:32 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:26 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:25 pm The words coming out of your mouth do not match the facts of the game sabi
Then vote me.

Put your reads to the vote
I did. Not voting a vanity. Nobody will follow.
So if I'm scum in your pov why aren't you forcing people to vote me.

You vote vanity wagons all the time so don't give me that.

You don't actually scumread me. You are trying to save falcon
I never force people to do anything
I don't build cases I hate doing it. I say my points and let town decide what to do with it.

And I will 100% never dare pushing you ever again as either alignment

You say this every fucking game. Get new material

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:59 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:57 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:55 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:49 pm I'm sorry, but I think I'm back to wolf!Sabi. I know, it sucks not having her in the towncore, but this explains a lot of why WWA hasn't died, why Rondo died, why Wilgy died, and can explain a lot of Lily's actions.
SEAN LISTEN TO ME.

I swear to God am screaming that you can't fucking see this.

Rondo scumread me because ei said one in him and lucy.

Literally was omgus.

Wilgz had me as townlean with tinfoil.
I asked Wilgy at the end of D2 their read on you and they said "light townread". All of D3 you were a suspect, showing up in 2 out of the 3 groups that Wilgy was considering.
Then vote me Sean.

Figure out from there that the solve is falcon and neon.

Will quite literally answer all of yalls questions about my slot.
Can you please answer the question I asked about Dennis?

I am trying to solve the game. I am allowed to consider you as scum while doing so. You have been saying things I disagree with and things that i think are just factually incorrect. I don't want to just vote you, I want to EITHER catch you or find you. I'd appreciate it of you could help me find you if you're town.

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 0#p1035740

Literally here.

Are you happy now.

Voting myself. See yall in dvc

Have fun with this game.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:55 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:49 pm I'm sorry, but I think I'm back to wolf!Sabi. I know, it sucks not having her in the towncore, but this explains a lot of why WWA hasn't died, why Rondo died, why Wilgy died, and can explain a lot of Lily's actions.
SEAN LISTEN TO ME.

I swear to God am screaming that you can't fucking see this.

Rondo scumread me because ei said one in him and lucy.

Literally was omgus.

Wilgz had me as townlean with tinfoil.
I asked Wilgy at the end of D2 their read on you and they said "light townread". All of D3 you were a suspect, showing up in 2 out of the 3 groups that Wilgy was considering.

Then vote me Sean.

Figure out from there that the solve is falcon and neon.

Will quite literally answer all of yalls questions about my slot.

Maybe town fucking deserves to lose this game. I'm losing a lot of my motivation repeating myself over and over.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:49 pm I'm sorry, but I think I'm back to wolf!Sabi. I know, it sucks not having her in the towncore, but this explains a lot of why WWA hasn't died, why Rondo died, why Wilgy died, and can explain a lot of Lily's actions.

SEAN LISTEN TO ME.

I swear to God am screaming that you can't fucking see this.

Rondo scumread me because ei said one in him and lucy.

Literally was omgus.

Wilgz had me as townlean with tinfoil.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:48 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:43 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:40 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:32 pm Why did neon not let a quick hammer happen falcon when he was L-1 and instead unvoted him?

Why did lily defend falcon and made sure no one voted him eod2?
I know you're likely not going to hear this, but I owe it to the thread to do my due diligence and explore situations.

Neon not quickhammering is NAI.

Lily I don't think really defended Falcon. In fact, I'm starting to think perhaps instead Lily was just pushing more for a Tutuu elim. If I'm right about this, why do you think Lily might have wanted Tutuu elimmed?
Tutuu sr me, falcon, and pyxxy (also Wilgz rip)

I don't think she was trying to force a tutuu yeet. She shrugged about it after she gave up on me.

Why would Rondo and Wilgz die. Both sr falcon.

I just feel in mybones that falcon is the Jk. It's the only explanation over him suddenly giving a fuck about being elim vs d2
Tutuu also had at least one "gotcha" post about Dennis shortly before Tutuu's death.

I cannot see how Rondo's ISO suggests that Rondo scumread Falcon. Rondo scumread you.

Wilgy was PR, it is hard to read into that kill. Also Wilgy scumread you.

He literally voted for falcon for most of d1

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:43 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:11 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:10 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:03 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:01 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:55 pm

So, hasn't changed much at all does mean there's been some change...you understand that, no?

Dropping your lowest TR slot to SR (after of course Wilgy & tutuu both flip green) and moving 60% pyxxy by 10% to null is not much movement at all.
What exactly am I supposed to. Move?

Seanzie and wwa and Dennis and Porscha are locked town.

That leaves you Nook pyxxy and neon.
Tell me about Dennis. The more I think about them, the more I realize that I am not actually sure of why they have been so high in the collective sort.
Look at his wolf games in carto and scooby doo. He struggles as wolf to solve and make. Reads.

Look at him here.

He's polarized
I am looking at his Scooby Doo iso right now and I vehemently disagree, he makes tons of reads.
Yes but look at the quality of those reads compared to this game
Can you give me a specific instances of a high-quality read/progression Dennis has had this game that you think is far out of the realm of what he was doing in Scooby Doo?

Commuting home so you get bus posting:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 7#p1025377
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 1#p1025121

In scooby doo his reads are literally vibes based with no isoing or effort put into them.

Look at his reads this game. He's iso and using actual evidence for his reads. This matches how he does it in his town games.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:40 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:32 pm Why did neon not let a quick hammer happen falcon when he was L-1 and instead unvoted him?

Why did lily defend falcon and made sure no one voted him eod2?
I know you're likely not going to hear this, but I owe it to the thread to do my due diligence and explore situations.

Neon not quickhammering is NAI.

Lily I don't think really defended Falcon. In fact, I'm starting to think perhaps instead Lily was just pushing more for a Tutuu elim. If I'm right about this, why do you think Lily might have wanted Tutuu elimmed?

Tutuu sr me, falcon, and pyxxy (also Wilgz rip)

I don't think she was trying to force a tutuu yeet. She shrugged about it after she gave up on me.

Why would Rondo and Wilgz die. Both sr falcon.

I just feel in mybones that falcon is the Jk. It's the only explanation over him suddenly giving a fuck about being elim vs d2

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:33 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:25 pm Falcon and Neon were quick to push a dennis/me world but jumped on pyxxy quickly
Yeah, I've expressed sus on pyxxy...more than once.

Fair. It was more directed at neon

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:32 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:26 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:25 pm The words coming out of your mouth do not match the facts of the game sabi
Then vote me.

Put your reads to the vote
I did. Not voting a vanity. Nobody will follow.

So if I'm scum in your pov why aren't you forcing people to vote me.

You vote vanity wagons all the time so don't give me that.

You don't actually scumread me. You are trying to save falcon

Why did neon not let a quick hammer happen falcon when he was L-1 and instead unvoted him?

Why did lily defend falcon and made sure no one voted him eod2?

If it's me and Dennis why are you voting pyxxy then???

You don't believe your own reads

You never cared about your vote not mattering so why are you following falcon?

There's a reason why lily wanted to save falcon yesterday

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:25 pm The words coming out of your mouth do not match the facts of the game sabi

Then vote me.

Put your reads to the vote

Falcon and Neon were quick to push a dennis/me world but jumped on pyxxy quickly

All of what falcon said about me has been wrong, factually so like idk why his effort today should be rewarded

@Seanzie why are you so confident falcon isn't a hit anymore?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:10 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:06 pm Vote falcon because yall want to game throw rn
Well, you're getting sus from myself (who you've got as Maf) and Neon (who you've also got as Maf)....and so you must be accusing Sean of gamethrowing here? Cuz' he doesn't see eye to eye on Dennis?

BECAUSE SEAN IS TOWN

HE'S NOT FOCUSING ON WHAT IS NECESSARY TO FLIP

Jesus fucking christ

Interesting

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:10 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:03 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:01 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:55 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:38 pm

This was 6 days ago, and Sabi's reads really haven't changed much at all. I think you've recently expressed a micro tinfoil on Porscha, but that's about it.
Really?

I dropped neon to scum and pyxxy to null

But go off. Tell me how I haven't changed my reads at all
So, hasn't changed much at all does mean there's been some change...you understand that, no?

Dropping your lowest TR slot to SR (after of course Wilgy & tutuu both flip green) and moving 60% pyxxy by 10% to null is not much movement at all.
What exactly am I supposed to. Move?

Seanzie and wwa and Dennis and Porscha are locked town.

That leaves you Nook pyxxy and neon.
Tell me about Dennis. The more I think about them, the more I realize that I am not actually sure of why they have been so high in the collective sort.
Look at his wolf games in carto and scooby doo. He struggles as wolf to solve and make. Reads.

Look at him here.

He's polarized
I am looking at his Scooby Doo iso right now and I vehemently disagree, he makes tons of reads.

Yes but look at the quality of those reads compared to this game

@WindwardAway where are you

The game is losing focus

Vote falcon because yall want to game throw rn

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:04 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:03 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:01 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:55 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:38 pm

This was 6 days ago, and Sabi's reads really haven't changed much at all. I think you've recently expressed a micro tinfoil on Porscha, but that's about it.
Really?

I dropped neon to scum and pyxxy to null

But go off. Tell me how I haven't changed my reads at all
So, hasn't changed much at all does mean there's been some change...you understand that, no?

Dropping your lowest TR slot to SR (after of course Wilgy & tutuu both flip green) and moving 60% pyxxy by 10% to null is not much movement at all.
What exactly am I supposed to. Move?

Seanzie and wwa and Dennis and Porscha are locked town.

That leaves you Nook pyxxy and neon.
Tell me about Dennis. The more I think about them, the more I realize that I am not actually sure of why they have been so high in the collective sort.
Look at his wolf games in carto and scooby doo. He struggles as wolf to solve and make. Reads.

Look at him here.

He's polarized
I don't think he is polarized. I think he is new, and learning fast.

Bruh

It's been a week. Since that game end and this started.

He didn't do a 180 like that or I will eat my hat

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:01 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:55 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:38 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:44 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:26 pm

I'm sorry you're getting that feeling, but if it is based off my comment, I don't think this is a fair assessment. I'm allowed to have some suspicion on you, and I'm still willing to work with you, but I do need to express thoughts about you.

Play the game, try to solve, let's work together. Can you remind me of who is in your towncore and who you suspect currently?
This was geared towards Wilgz and Neon who have just resorted to omg sabi wolfy for pushing their scumreads how dare they.

Anyway

I already mentioned it.

Town - 100% confidence:
Wwa
Porscha
You
Dennis

Town lead - 75% confidence:
Lily

Town side of null - 60% confidence:
Pyxxy
Neon
Wilgz

Everyone else scummy pile:
Nook
Falcon
Tutuu

This was 6 days ago, and Sabi's reads really haven't changed much at all. I think you've recently expressed a micro tinfoil on Porscha, but that's about it.
Really?

I dropped neon to scum and pyxxy to null

But go off. Tell me how I haven't changed my reads at all
So, hasn't changed much at all does mean there's been some change...you understand that, no?

Dropping your lowest TR slot to SR (after of course Wilgy & tutuu both flip green) and moving 60% pyxxy by 10% to null is not much movement at all.
What exactly am I supposed to. Move?

Seanzie and wwa and Dennis and Porscha are locked town.

That leaves you Nook pyxxy and neon.
You've had 4 lock town for like a week...so, town move their reads all the time, cuz' they don't know. This is much harder to do for Maf.

It's not that I think you have to move to player X or whatever...it's the fact that your reads just haven't moved a lot in a week...with just 1 Maf flip, I'd think you'd be much more sus, but you're still stuck in your static SRs and Lock TRs

Why the fuck do I need to reconsider Seanzie and Porscha and wwa and Dennis in light of lily?

Wwa is uncced pr

Seanzie is town based off his solving and content of his posts and also lily push.

Porscha is town based off lily trying to pocket her.

Dennis is town based off he actually is solving and contributing and thinking about the game which is something he struggles to do as wolf.

So kindly tell me how any of this is static from my pov.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:01 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:55 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:38 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:44 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:26 pm

I'm sorry you're getting that feeling, but if it is based off my comment, I don't think this is a fair assessment. I'm allowed to have some suspicion on you, and I'm still willing to work with you, but I do need to express thoughts about you.

Play the game, try to solve, let's work together. Can you remind me of who is in your towncore and who you suspect currently?
This was geared towards Wilgz and Neon who have just resorted to omg sabi wolfy for pushing their scumreads how dare they.

Anyway

I already mentioned it.

Town - 100% confidence:
Wwa
Porscha
You
Dennis

Town lead - 75% confidence:
Lily

Town side of null - 60% confidence:
Pyxxy
Neon
Wilgz

Everyone else scummy pile:
Nook
Falcon
Tutuu

This was 6 days ago, and Sabi's reads really haven't changed much at all. I think you've recently expressed a micro tinfoil on Porscha, but that's about it.
Really?

I dropped neon to scum and pyxxy to null

But go off. Tell me how I haven't changed my reads at all
So, hasn't changed much at all does mean there's been some change...you understand that, no?

Dropping your lowest TR slot to SR (after of course Wilgy & tutuu both flip green) and moving 60% pyxxy by 10% to null is not much movement at all.
What exactly am I supposed to. Move?

Seanzie and wwa and Dennis and Porscha are locked town.

That leaves you Nook pyxxy and neon.
Tell me about Dennis. The more I think about them, the more I realize that I am not actually sure of why they have been so high in the collective sort.

Look at his wolf games in carto and scooby doo. He struggles as wolf to solve and make. Reads.

Look at him here.

He's polarized

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:57 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:53 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:52 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:43 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:53 pm But thank you falcon and neon for spewing me town xoxo :3
Well, I'm town, & town can't spew others as town ya silly goose...and I'm wondering if there was any other recent instances of W! Sabi seeking a town clear off some rather weak reasonings?

Goc I never did that at all but go off.

Point out what posts in goc I did that. I'm waiting?

Oh yeah, it just happened in GoC.

Oh, you don't remember saying that you were basically town cleared cuz' of your volume of fluff posts, and then I was all over you? You don't recall?

I'm pretty sure you do

I'm town clear off fluff post was literally a shit post because wolf me 1200 posted in mafia misplay

The fuck kinda push is this. I literally said it was a shit post in that game

Like gee I'm sorry I'm not moving my locked town reads because I'm confident in them? The fuck kinda read is that

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:55 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:38 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:44 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:26 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:09 pm I Eman yall can flip me today. I don't care and it will show in not aligned with tutuu at all.

I. Don't want to spend my time on a game if I push anyone it's omg sabi a wolf again. I'm playing the game and trying to solve
I'm sorry you're getting that feeling, but if it is based off my comment, I don't think this is a fair assessment. I'm allowed to have some suspicion on you, and I'm still willing to work with you, but I do need to express thoughts about you.

Play the game, try to solve, let's work together. Can you remind me of who is in your towncore and who you suspect currently?
This was geared towards Wilgz and Neon who have just resorted to omg sabi wolfy for pushing their scumreads how dare they.

Anyway

I already mentioned it.

Town - 100% confidence:
Wwa
Porscha
You
Dennis

Town lead - 75% confidence:
Lily

Town side of null - 60% confidence:
Pyxxy
Neon
Wilgz

Everyone else scummy pile:
Nook
Falcon
Tutuu

This was 6 days ago, and Sabi's reads really haven't changed much at all. I think you've recently expressed a micro tinfoil on Porscha, but that's about it.
Really?

I dropped neon to scum and pyxxy to null

But go off. Tell me how I haven't changed my reads at all
So, hasn't changed much at all does mean there's been some change...you understand that, no?

Dropping your lowest TR slot to SR (after of course Wilgy & tutuu both flip green) and moving 60% pyxxy by 10% to null is not much movement at all.

What exactly am I supposed to. Move?

Seanzie and wwa and Dennis and Porscha are locked town.

That leaves you Nook pyxxy and neon.

Like falcon is omgus ing and flailing at that. None of his pushes are towny because literally my iso is right there and you can see my reads change.

Why did falcon neglect my neon read change?

Why do I need to change my 100% town core reads?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:52 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:43 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:53 pm But thank you falcon and neon for spewing me town xoxo :3
Well, I'm town, & town can't spew others as town ya silly goose...and I'm wondering if there was any other recent instances of W! Sabi seeking a town clear off some rather weak reasonings?

Goc I never did that at all but go off.

Point out what posts in goc I did that. I'm waiting?

Oh yeah, it just happened in GoC.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:43 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:53 pm But thank you falcon and neon for spewing me town xoxo :3
Well, I'm town, & town can't spew others as town ya silly goose...and I'm wondering if there was any other recent instances of W! Sabi seeking a town clear off some rather weak reasonings?

Goc I never did that at all but go off.

Point out what posts in goc I did that. I'm waiting?

Oh yeah, it just happened in GoC.

Literally missed all of my d3 ramblings about poe and orders to vote in @falcon45ca

Kinda bad that you conviently forgot that?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:38 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:44 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:26 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:09 pm I Eman yall can flip me today. I don't care and it will show in not aligned with tutuu at all.

I. Don't want to spend my time on a game if I push anyone it's omg sabi a wolf again. I'm playing the game and trying to solve
I'm sorry you're getting that feeling, but if it is based off my comment, I don't think this is a fair assessment. I'm allowed to have some suspicion on you, and I'm still willing to work with you, but I do need to express thoughts about you.

Play the game, try to solve, let's work together. Can you remind me of who is in your towncore and who you suspect currently?
This was geared towards Wilgz and Neon who have just resorted to omg sabi wolfy for pushing their scumreads how dare they.

Anyway

I already mentioned it.

Town - 100% confidence:
Wwa
Porscha
You
Dennis

Town lead - 75% confidence:
Lily

Town side of null - 60% confidence:
Pyxxy
Neon
Wilgz

Everyone else scummy pile:
Nook
Falcon
Tutuu

This was 6 days ago, and Sabi's reads really haven't changed much at all. I think you've recently expressed a micro tinfoil on Porscha, but that's about it.

Really?

I dropped neon to scum and pyxxy to null

But go off. Tell me how I haven't changed my reads at all

I don't think I have seen neon this wrong about game state before if she's town.

She was wrong like this during welcome back and she was wolf.

But thank you falcon and neon for spewing me town xoxo :3

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:54 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:30 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:14 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 10:59 am Running a Sabi ISO:

TLDR: Overall, I came out of this feeling quite bad about Sabi, and thinking that Sabi/Lily have reasonably good w/w potential. Sabi has pushed in all the wrong directions, and dead townies have wanted Sabi gone. I think if both Sabi and Lily are wolf, Falcon is the most likely 3rd.

@Sabiplz would you mind elaborating on your late-D1 Lily progression? You do a 180, but I can't figure out why. I'd love to hear more about it.

Sabi ISO thoughts - color coded (blue - good, purple - null, red - bad, on a spectrum. Also yellow - possibly important, but not for Sabi's alignment)
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Sabi D1:

1.) Micro-read:

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Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:00 pm I.... Don't know how to feel about lucy at the moment.

I don't like this whole strat from her but idk if it's AI or lucyism

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:22 am I... Don't know how to feel about pyxxy asking a lot of meta and format questions.

It feels towny off tone

But it also feels like blantant look im so towny for looking like I'm thinking about the game.

This repeat language this early into the game I think is lightly >rand!wolf

2.) Lucy/Rondo - I really don't like Sabi's push on Rondo re:Lucy. Sabi didn't actually play Hedgehog, so they did not see Rondo v Lucy without TMI, and then seemed to really try to minimize Rondo's Hedgehog read down to "Lucy is flipping out, therefore Lucy is wolf", removing all possible nuance from the situation, and using that and only that to base a "at least one wolf in Rondo/Lucy" in such a way that could have been Sabi trying to push Rondo to vote Lucy.

3.) D1 Lily/Sabi interactions from Sabi's ISO - There were a few posts there looked lightly not w/w between these two, and at one point Sabi looks reasonably good, sussing Lily in a way that looked natural, but then Sabi drops that sus without any indication as to why in a way that worries me. A few little things that could be w/w in there as well. Overall sight w/w, but not enough to write home about.

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Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:37 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:32 pm i kinda like most the vibes so far but lucy did like both of the scumtells i associate with her so

hmm

shes speedrunning my paranoia
What are the scumtells?

Also why is your pfp broken for me?
NAI

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:20 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:45 pm why vote lucy after talking about how you dont rvs vote and dont get her strat

is this like a malicious compliance moment? do you SR lucy?
She wanted me to vote and I wanted to be petty and give her a vote that I don't actually believe in (OK I believe it like 5% because of raisens).
This seems a bit overly-strong from Lily's side for how early it was, which lightly points to w/w, but I think Sabi's response is fine, so extremely light w/w, as light as can be.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:28 am Anyway tutuu and Porscha have obv town themselves for D1.

Lucy hasn't done anything that isn't fake able as wolf.

Lily is null and hasn't done anything controversial. All her reads mimic anyone else's in the thread. Like she conviently doubted her Dennis read once tutuu pointed out a sus post. Her sr of me is quite literally every fucking game even when I rand town.
Lot of words to just conclude Lily is null, but I'mma be generous and call this NAI.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:51 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:48 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:06 am

The other people are lily who literally scum reads me as soon as she sees me on the playerlist and lucy who I believe is not town.

So yes I will push on you because you usually find me as town
bruh lucy asked us to put early votes whenever we sus'd anyone and I wasn't vibing with ur early posts

I'm not too invested in reading you because I'm pretty bad at it. I just didn't like your initial vibes. I just also didn't like your initial vibes in the last two games we played together and you were wolfing there

idk post good stuff I tr woohoo
You literally have scum read me every game since mafia misplay lol

I am not a monkey and going to cater my post to you. I am town so let me be. If you can't find me, oh whale. If you can't find a difference besides tone (congrats you found out why I was retired from mafia) between my posting this game and my wolf Rands, oh whale.
This kind of feels genuine, not-w/w points for this.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:52 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:49 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:11 am

Because you literally haven't done anything that isn't copy able as a wolf???
the "you're scummy because you're in your wolf range" read needs to die lol
Found lucy teammate
Level 0 this and the next 2 posts all look good, I can see town!Sabi having kind of felt like they found a wolf here and were a bit gloaty about it.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:25 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:16 pm Wow maybe sabi is town! Wowza!
Pocket attempt denied

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:00 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:48 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:25 pm

Pocket attempt denied
LOL

Stop ur trying too hard to sound villagery and it's making me scum read you more
Reverse pocket attempt also denied.

I'm not trying. Stop having skill issues.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:14 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:13 pm i feel very ignored this game
HI.

I want your brain vomit while catching up
This has a very different tone towards Lily. NAI for now.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:30 pm @Lilypetal thots on Rondo and Nook defending lucy

Thots in tutuu weirdness irt lucy now?

Thots on both neon and lucy both voting me?
Again, very different tone to what looked good above, like Sabi forgot about scumreading Lily.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:44 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:33 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:30 pm @Lilypetal thots on Rondo and Nook defending lucy

Thots in tutuu weirdness irt lucy now?

Thots on both neon and lucy both voting me?
i havent read all of the rondo/nook posts so ill get back to you on that one

i know you said tutuu/lucy not w/w but I really do not understand either of their play if that's the case and to me specifically page 8 felt like they were both doing theatre p blatantly

im unsure why neon is voting you as Idt I've caught up to that point yet. Lucy is partners with tutuu so is just voting you ig
Yea I might have rushed it with the tutuu/lucy are unaligned read just because it felt like tutuu believed her push on lucy and it was so extra about it

But then she said something about town is losing if she's in limlo and that has bothered me because is that like an Easter egg?

Anyway yea idk what neon is doing and lucy is just anti spewing or whatever and I'm just annoyed.

I wanted this to be a normal game
Now, Sabi's no longer speaking to Lily in a way that suggests any scumread. Maybe Sabi just got over it, I know there was some time in between Sabi calling Lily a wolf and this, but it really could just be a wolf trying to distance for a while, and then dropping it later because it wasn't real sus.
4.) D1 Sabi threadfeel - There were a lot of Sabi's takes that I actually felt good about, and they and I mindmelded at least a few times through D1. I'mma give them a little credit for that.

Dead townies -
5.) Aro read Sabi as Null
6.) Rondo read Sabi as wolf - double points for NK'd townie.

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Sabi D2:

7.) Start of day performative - I don't really like these posts. Saying "oh just elim me" one minute into the day does absolutely nothing and if I was being disingenuous, I'd say this is a way to get the "sabi messed up" out of the way early since in general suspicion on stuff like that being brought up early gives it time to die, whereas if that gets brought up midday or late day, that can be dangerous. This is a bit reachy though. I also admit that town!Sabi can be a bit dramatic, so I'm only going to give this a lightly-south-of-null read.

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Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:24 pm [VOTE: Sabiplz ] aubergine

If tutuu needs me to die then so be it.

I kinda don't care at this point.

My. Legacy after I die is flip tutuu not pyxxy

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:25 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:25 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:24 pm

im very confident rondo was killed as an attempt to kill the second PR
This would imply scum believe WWA's claim yes?
there's no reason for neither town nor scum to doubt WWA's claim
8.) Weird post - I found this weird, it just didn't really fit with how I felt about the game at all? Like Nook and Falcon were blobs, but that's about it?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:08 pm Is this game just everyone being a blob
9.) Sabi D2 threadfeel - I did not feel similarly to Sabi most of D2, but I will say that towards the end, they did seem to believe their Tutuu scumread. I will give them a few town points for that. I will say though, that if Sabi is wolf, Falcon's wolf equity goes up a lot based on the urgency in which Sabi played EoD2. (I know, a little level 0, but it is what it is)

10.) Sabi/Lily D2 - Sabi keeps a townread on Lily all day, no sign of whatever was going on mid-D1 to be found. More potential for w/w here than on D1. Sabi said they were going to ISO Lily because of my posts, but didn't. I think this is >rand!w/w.

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Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:04 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:59 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:57 pm

He's still town side of null

Nothing from the flips has made me change my read in him from last time
bet

im curious if u have any scumreads beside me

i anticipated that rondo would be your scumread - you mentioned that you changed your mind on him overnight though - but asking u about ur read on a dead person probably doesnt matter regardless of ur alignment

so yeah, curious if u sus anyone else alongside me
You, falcon, and a wee bit of Nook ( I'm going to poke seanzie later to help me with Nook)

I have a good amount of town folks I have 100% belief are never scum :
WWA
Porscha
Seanzie
Dennis

Town but I'm scared of them:
Lily

Some towny nulls but I am staring at them hard:
Pyxxy
Neon
Wilgz

Does that help you with my world view atm?
Sabi lists Lily as "town but I'm scared". A weird category, and also fully cements the D1 thing I saw which was a 180 on Lily with no explanation. One thing I will say is that it is a bit bold to put a wolfmate in a category by itself, so I'm maybe gonna say this is neither w/w or non-w/w?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:40 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:33 am Why do we think rondo died?
My thoughts were they believed his cc but any team with atleast one person familiar with Rondo would know it was a fake cc.

The other way was maybe the falcon push but idk

Maybe the theory about doc dodge is fine but like Porscha and Seanzie were more townread?
Idk if this is about Lily necessarily, but this post... just doesn't sit well. It is too much - nothing said here is wrong, but it kinda suggests that Sabi's been thinking about all the ways Rondo's death could be explained... for a bit longer than everyone else.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:40 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:26 pm

OK so why I ask for Nook and falcon:

- they weren't that talked about in the thread so I wanted organic, non gmo, vegan Wilgz content

- you know them both better than I do hence why I wanted your takes on them.

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The reasons why I thought your Sean and Porscha reads felt cotton candy because everyone had stated those reads. It felt like you were not saying your own thoughts.

Anything else?
Fair enough, was it just those two or are there any others that seem to be laying low? Or has everyone kinda come to the table at this point?

Re Porscha Seanzie, do you also agree with the reads even if there were others that voiced it prior? Is it not or less likely that I'm in agreement with those voice because it seems clear?
I guess the only people left has been like neon lily and Dennis in terms of in depth/not totally confident talk so far. (I do confidently townread Dennis out of this list).

Yes I agreed with those reads. I feel like I had made that abundantly clear? It's not that the read was unagreeable for me. It was the fact it didn't feel like your own thoughts because it was common belief in thread.

Like I just wanted original Wilgz takes that weren't already mentioned in thread. It's how I usually read you because town you is know for having reads that tend to be off the beaten path.

I dunno if I make sense but I feel like I repeated this like five thousand times and I don't think you are understanding me
I find it a little weird that Sabi mentions Lily and Dennis as people who haven't come to the table yet, and then says they townread Dennis, even though Lily is also listed as a townread (granted, with a caveat, but one of fear, not of lack of read?), but not Lily. This is hedgy in the worst way.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:44 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:26 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:09 pm I Eman yall can flip me today. I don't care and it will show in not aligned with tutuu at all.

I. Don't want to spend my time on a game if I push anyone it's omg sabi a wolf again. I'm playing the game and trying to solve
I'm sorry you're getting that feeling, but if it is based off my comment, I don't think this is a fair assessment. I'm allowed to have some suspicion on you, and I'm still willing to work with you, but I do need to express thoughts about you.

Play the game, try to solve, let's work together. Can you remind me of who is in your towncore and who you suspect currently?
This was geared towards Wilgz and Neon who have just resorted to omg sabi wolfy for pushing their scumreads how dare they.

Anyway

I already mentioned it.

Town - 100% confidence:
Wwa
Porscha
You
Dennis

Town lead - 75% confidence:
Lily

Town side of null - 60% confidence:
Pyxxy
Neon
Wilgz

Everyone else scummy pile:
Nook
Falcon
Tutuu
Lily is now a townlean, rather than "town but scared"

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:20 am I'm taking Seanzie notes in consideration and will iso lily soon
If Sabi did this, it would be a good look, but I don't think this happened, which is bad.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:38 am I miss drunk lily
We all miss drunk Lily. NAI.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:33 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:29 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:28 pm Well I'm gonna be honest I kinda have little reason to townread you after I thought about it

I think you pocketed me and your flip gives town a lot of info anyways
Expand on this

Does tutuu's flip give us more info than sabi?
Yes 100%. It clears any doubt on neon I had. She has a ton fo spew and people she pocketed would be cleared due to it not being w/w.

What do you get out of me flipping town.
Curious what Sabi thinks of Neon now.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:36 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:34 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:33 pm

Yes 100%. It clears any doubt on neon I had. She has a ton fo spew and people she pocketed would be cleared due to it not being w/w.

What do you get out of me flipping town.
If you flip town it means tutuu is most likely a wolf and I just have it backwards rn
So why does my flip matter more than hers then?

I am trying to solve this game. I'm not pocketing or meming. Why is my flip, who is being productive, more valuable than tutuu? What has tutuu done to make the game forward
I REALLY don't like the fact that Sabi asked "what does flipping town!me do?" and Lily didn't call out that BS and say what flipping Sabi in general could do.

11.) Dead townie - Tutuu wolfread Sabi, but as proxy for Lucy.

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D3 Sabi - Only two posts, one again being kinda performative "woe is me, vote me", the other throwing light shade at Nook. Tempted to just ignore both of them.

I was a host for hedgehog so I read the game, remember that :P

Regardless my 180 on lily was due to how she kept scumreading me like she usually does in every game and it felt towny. Can I ask why you are going through my iso first and not reading me from lily iso? I don't have tmi on her. She does.
I know you were a host for hedgehog, I specifically mentioned that you didn't see the interaction without TMI (in hedgehog)

Can you provide some places where you felt Lily's scumread of you was townie?

I looked through your ISO because WWA asked me where I stood on you, and I have waited far too long to get a good grasp on where you should be in my solve, so I decided to ISO you. It then turned into a whole big hullabaloo of a post because i had lots to say.
The progression in order felt like towny lily to me:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 9#p1031509
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 5#p1031565
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 8#p1031578
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 3#p1031593
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 4#p1031594
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 7#p1031597
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 3#p1031603
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 7#p1031677
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 3#p1032193
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 6#p1032196
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 5#p1032205
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 5#p1032225
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 9#p1032389
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 1#p1032451

@falcon45ca @Neon yall clearly can't read

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:00 pm Falcon is town

I'm going to bed well try to make EoD or be here today but I got bipolar and sometimes I just sleep all day like I did yesterday

Just like lily was town?

Hmm

Is that even a read?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:36 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:32 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:29 pm If falcon flips mafia I'm jailing pyxxy
That is the part I'm worried about now because if pyxxy isn't wolf then it's a fake red check.
Oh you mean if mafia fakes a red by hitting my jail target with a kill?
Yeah idk I was worried about that earlier but talked myself out of worrying about it because mafia purposely missing a kill just so the target gets lunched during the day is counterproductive

Like if they target town!Pyxxy with a kill and no kill happens, and we lunch Pyxxy, we lunch a town instead of having a townie die AND possibly a townie getting lunched

Like that doesn't benefit mafia enough for it to be a viable strategy since we'd just be plowing through everyone else right after that and then they can't even shut me up for another day because we waste the day killing their missed night kill.

I guess so. I'm just overthinking this.

Vjdmkdnxksksbdlsksb

I also don't think it's pyxxy anymore for reasons but I trust your choice.

Am I making sense or am I being dumb (I'm being dumb)

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:34 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:31 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:27 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:23 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:50 am Okay, I've thought through the mech a bit more, and this is actually good. Not as good as I thought, but...

If we elim a wolf today, then EITHER 1.) WWA survives another day, which is kinda nice for threadhealth/solving reasons, or 2.) WWA dies and we get a clear.

In particular @WindwardAway I'd still like you to specifically say something like "if X flips wolf, I am going to target Y" shortly before EoD, and STICK TO THAT. This guarantees that if you die, we get a clear. Can you do this? (let me know if you have any questions about why this works).
I will do this, you have my word. I know exactly how this works, and I won't deviate from the pool of targets I give before EoD.
You need to give a single name if you want it to work.
I literally gave a pool of targets
If I jail the mafia jailkeeper and they jail me, I thought the kill would not go through on me but it would on someone else? Because I'd be roleblocked first and then the factional would process? Or am I completely misunderstanding this

I'm probably completely misunderstanding this wtf am I saying

Lmao
I think you might be?

Tho my worry is now the wolf targeting the other poed player if they aren't the one jailed (but targeted the jailed) one so it gives you a fake red check?

I dunno if that makes sense.

Uhhh

Maybe make a pool of two instead of three?

Idk

Ahhhhh
See i gave a pool cause for some reason I thought there was still a chance the kill would go through if the scum jailkeeper is still alive but idk why i thought that lol

Seanzie is right i trust that someone who isn't me understood the mech interactions better than I did because I clearly couldn't even remember that mafia had a jailkeeper this morning lmao

OK let me spell this clearer:

You announce who you jk (person A)

Person A isn't wolf.

Person B is wolf.

Person B nk Person A but it's blocked by your jail keep.

No nightkill

Fake red check.

I hate mech.

I'm back to being team vanilla

Ahhhhh we aren't safe

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:29 pm If falcon flips mafia I'm jailing pyxxy

That is the part I'm worried about now because if pyxxy isn't wolf then it's a fake red check.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:27 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:23 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:50 am Okay, I've thought through the mech a bit more, and this is actually good. Not as good as I thought, but...

If we elim a wolf today, then EITHER 1.) WWA survives another day, which is kinda nice for threadhealth/solving reasons, or 2.) WWA dies and we get a clear.

In particular @WindwardAway I'd still like you to specifically say something like "if X flips wolf, I am going to target Y" shortly before EoD, and STICK TO THAT. This guarantees that if you die, we get a clear. Can you do this? (let me know if you have any questions about why this works).
I will do this, you have my word. I know exactly how this works, and I won't deviate from the pool of targets I give before EoD.
You need to give a single name if you want it to work.
I literally gave a pool of targets
If I jail the mafia jailkeeper and they jail me, I thought the kill would not go through on me but it would on someone else? Because I'd be roleblocked first and then the factional would process? Or am I completely misunderstanding this

I'm probably completely misunderstanding this wtf am I saying

Lmao

I think you might be?

Tho my worry is now the wolf targeting the other poed player if they aren't the one jailed (but targeted the jailed) one so it gives you a fake red check?

I dunno if that makes sense.

Uhhh

Maybe make a pool of two instead of three?

Idk

Ahhhhh

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