The Syndicate

Well actually yeah, I dont want to discuss that, just noting that I dont feel like tha even if I didnt feel like productive answering that question I still entertained your questioning and its me trying to engage still? Idk like interactions with people is how I figure stuff mostly tbh

Well actually

[VOTE: Millium ] aubergine I still thinking where to end tho. But I think ISOing dya may help me to decide at the end wowee

Well actually I think that when you asked me worlds about V!Alison worlds I answered still and you got more upset with Mac fwiw.

Like yeah I was tunneled on a read so ofc my read out of it was prob bad? But I feel like you got more yoset with Mac at the tim and didnt really follow up on that . I think I have been doing a great effort to engage when asked stuff / also doing effort to engage with reads tbf

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:13 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:12 am Well actually you can clearly see that being in a PoE the main thing is that I am townreading everyone else dya LoL

well actually your reads have kind of sucked this game so maybe you should re-evaluate

Well actually yes. I as town have better reads when the person Im trying to solve isnt dismissive with me and actually tries to work together with me if they are town what can I say

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:07 am and whoever accused me of not sticking with reads has clearly not read my d1. It's so misinformed it's hilarious

Well actually which are the reads you think you sticked the most?

Well actually and answer me to the stuff regarding the Alison push tbh, that was also misinformed on your part so I want to see what is your reply to that tbh

Well actually you can clearly see that being in a PoE the main thing is that I am townreading everyone else dya LoL

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:58 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:55 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:52 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:49 am Well actually . Also, Do you think is possible Cham is a wolf in a world where Wisp is town?
I think that is kinda unlikely, so Cham wagon should either fuse with Wisp wagon o look somewhere else? Idk

nah i think its highly likely they are both the same alignment

Well actually yeah. But when imagining a W/V dynamic, I think its more likely a W!Wisp and V!Cham dynamic than the reverse, so going Wisp first if you think Cham is prob a wolf should be the safer thing to do? At least in my mind lol

how come you think its more likely wolf wisp/v cham and not the other way around?

Well actually is the thing I am talking about in my last posts? Cham play D1 doesnt make sense in my head if they are Wolf and Wisp is Villa

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:52 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:49 am Well actually . Also, Do you think is possible Cham is a wolf in a world where Wisp is town?
I think that is kinda unlikely, so Cham wagon should either fuse with Wisp wagon o look somewhere else? Idk

nah i think its highly likely they are both the same alignment

Well actually yeah. But when imagining a W/V dynamic, I think its more likely a W!Wisp and V!Cham dynamic than the reverse, so going Wisp first if you think Cham is prob a wolf should be the safer thing to do? At least in my mind lol

Well actually
Wagons were Wisp > Porscha/Aro .
Cham came into thread claiming a hard tr on Wisp, and trying to destroy that wagon. Could be TMI in a V!Wisp world, but they did that while ALSO trying to deviate the wagon onto Poscha. Its such a weird play in that world that makes me think that Wisp and Cham are paired or Cham isnt a wolf at all tbh

Well actually . Also, Do you think is possible Cham is a wolf in a world where Wisp is town?
I think that is kinda unlikely, so Cham wagon should either fuse with Wisp wagon o look somewhere else? Idk

Well actually I think is highly unlikely that Rondo wagon is pure. But idk if it would be a bus or not. Thought for later.

But it kinda wants to make me prioritize Dya/Wisp atm maybe. Idk

Well actually @Seanzie why are you on ilario tbh? I think you are the only one in a vanity wagon rn

Votecount:

Dyachei (4) - Santygrass, Ender, Lilypetal, Neon
Millium (3) - Belzy, Ilario, Nanook
Rondo (3) - Millium, Dyachei, Cham
Cham (2) - Mac, Rondo
Ilario (1) - Seanzie

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:39 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:36 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:35 am Who is townreading me?

i might if wisp flips wolf

That was another reason my scumread on you became less, because you are willing to change your read based on events/game developmemt

Well actually I agree. I just came to the conclussion that ilario was prob town when I saw a fair read on me (bringing up me wolfsiding in D1 , which is fully true tbh) , or the stuff that he bringed up about Cham, feels like a fair reread and not agenda at least tbh

Well actually @ilario in regards to Ender I am not fully sure if that is the vote switch you are talking about and the one I remember are the same. But I remember feeling like the switch off Alison was shallow and more like Ender poking at wagons.
Which then he said he switched off Alison to see what other wagons would grow/wagonomics and stuff.
From a surface level read I feel like I *could* vibe or see ender's objectives or PoV through the game. Like, knowing that me/cham were the objectives of the post quirker, it was kinda obv that Ender was behind them and stuff like that mades me think that they are being clear with their thought process

Well actually

{Cham, ender , ilario , lily ,Mac , Nanook ,Neon , Seanzie}

Fmpov I currently think that at max there is only 1 wolf here, and currently wouldnt go to any of them tbh. Wisp I have to reeval to be if they could be there or nah .
I think I can explain why I have anyone there so lmk if you have doubts.

PoE ends up in: Wisp > Dya/Rondo/Belzy .
Belzy cant be yeeted today. So Dya/Rondo > Wisp.
Hmmm. Rondo had also the vote on Porscha D1 that was kinda whatever, but idk. I think if Ender sr's Rondo I'll trust it. If Ender doesnt vote there then I'll just go Dya.

Tho I think its highly likely that voth Dya/Rondo are wolves cuz that would make the game easier for me tbh

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:48 am Sanity part of the reason I'm wolf reading you is that you keep insisting. Alison was lying a lot but to me it just looked like a different perspective. And she's a dead villager so I'm more likely right than you. Your case on her was founded in these lies and it felt super weak to me at the time. The concerns I had for Alison were based on her claim. Not anything else she was saying in the thread

Well actually
@dyachei this is a lie. See why I get salty with people pushing me being so inaccurate? Read my Iso and SoD D2 . Me pushing Alison had nothing to do with them lying while counterpushing me. That was the thing that confbiased my read tbh

And I dont get the part about them being a dead villager (who was yeeted) making it more likely right

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:41 am Seriously, can someone answer my question so I have a night thing to do?

What is your power?
Who did you target night 1?
Who did you target night 2?
What did you do night 1?
What did you do night 2?
Who's question should I submit?

Well actually

What is your power? Tracker. That is my only role/ability .
Who did you target night 1? I targeted only Tilgarial.
Who did you target night 2? I targeted Belzy with my tracker, and I also used my gift from Wisp on someone.
What did you do night 1? In n1 I tracked Tilgarial, got as a result that Tilgarial acted on Dyachei and MacDougall. That was my only submitted action
What did you do night 2? In n2 I tracked Belzy, got as a result that Belzy didnt visited anyone. I also submitted another action using Wisp gift. No more actions submitted other than those two (Track and gift)
Who's question should I submit? Who do you think you should submit ?


@RondoDimBuckle

Is there a limit in what you can ask and get a reply to tbh?

Well actually yeh its going to be hard for my to townread Neon so I'll leave that responsability to someone else because they clearly showed to either dont know how to read me at all or just faking it to do wolfy pushing so I'll leave it at that.

Now to sleep

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:21 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:16 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:14 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:11 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:09 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:08 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:03 am

thots on nook in general?

Willing to defer to the read the dead town whose life he ruined had on him. If Alison thought he was town he probably just is. I've not known her to ever be forgiving in that way to a wolf that openly fucks with her shit.

nook makes unorthodox decisions as wolf. aside for cham who else do u think chooses to vote lock tilg?

wolf team decision not individual decision

weird way to try to figure it out imo

tilg was vote removed to make him look scummier... how do you seek to determine who it is given that? can be anyone and the decision made my any competent mafia team combination

yeah but someone clever enough to know to bank on tilgs reputation that he was wolf in champs final and bank on the paranoia that comes with that.

or anyone actually

Idk man like I think the syndicate only players like Sean/rondo are less likely to make that decision

Maybe my reasoning to you doesn’t make sense or isn’t very legit so Imma just pass it off as vibe like neon did

Well actually I think that is valid. But also I think it only applies in a team with only TS players or something tbh?

Well actually apparently not because then Nook would be also my scum partner which Neon is now accusing of pocketing then

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:15 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:14 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:11 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:09 am Well actually you are going to scumread me for pocketing players Neon? Have you learned nothing?

And I had explained the nook reasoning before fwiw

Yes I'm kinda the goat at pocketing players as wolf and I don't like what your doing here... at all

Well actually you will have to deal with it because I do it as either alignment and if you are going to sus me everytime I do it as town then Im gonna call the skill issue department tbh

Like, even here I am anti-pocketing Ilario and Lily most of the time so wtf. I am being a lot less pockety than usual for my standards tbh

Ah yes the good Ole

"I always do it so skill issue" defense.

Well actually I already talked about it D1 and you are bringing it up again /shrug

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:11 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:10 am Well actually I know for a fact that Allison was not one of the best villagers on the game so /shrug

i don't know who is a villager and who isn't, would you like to enlighten me?

Well actually that isnt my point at all Lily wtf

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:11 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:09 am Well actually you are going to scumread me for pocketing players Neon? Have you learned nothing?

And I had explained the nook reasoning before fwiw

Yes I'm kinda the goat at pocketing players as wolf and I don't like what your doing here... at all

Well actually you will have to deal with it because I do it as either alignment and if you are going to sus me everytime I do it as town then Im gonna call the skill issue department tbh

Like, even here I am anti-pocketing Ilario and Lily most of the time so wtf. I am being a lot less pockety than usual for my standards tbh

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:10 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:08 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:07 am i see nobody else wanting to target tilg d1

Well actually if its decided by the team tbh doesnt matter what they would think as an individual? If most of the team wanted it it was prob done that way?

yes and someone in the team would have suggested tilg. the only people i see doing that are nook or cham

Well actually why?

In D1 there was the read in that in the group voting Lily there was prob a mafia, so aro flipping V made some peeps just more sus of Tilg tbh

Well actually I know for a fact that Allison was not one of the best villagers on the game so /shrug

Well actually you are going to scumread me for pocketing players Neon? Have you learned nothing?

And I had explained the nook reasoning before fwiw

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:07 am i see nobody else wanting to target tilg d1

Well actually if its decided by the team tbh doesnt matter what they would think as an individual? If most of the team wanted it it was prob done that way?

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:05 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:04 am Well actually ilario I think that nook SoD this day was pretty villagery imo

what about it

Well actually how he reacted to the mech stuff and flowed through votes. Didnt felt like a wolf latching on stuff? If it makes any sense. Was prob one of the times I vibed more with Nanook tbh

Well actually because why would you trust more the read of a person that played only 1 time with me and her arguments flr accussing me were super bad / using lies and hyperboles? Rather than... Trusting your own more read?

Is where I go at mostly tbh. I dont think you are mafia unless something weird happened mech-wise and shouldnt be discussed now anyways, but thats where I am lead tbh

Well actually ilario I think that nook SoD this day was pretty villagery imo

Well actually wowee at my double post

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:51 pm I think having a full tracker doesn't make sense with all the partial tracking abilities we have. I also think your push on Alison sucked

Well actually @dyachei expand on which parts sucked and felt wolfy tbh.

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:33 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:44 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:31 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:09 pm Well actually @Lilypetal talk to me. Why I am mafia

something something killed alison

Well actually @Lilypetal that makes me mafia? Elaborate on your read and dont half ass it tbh.

What was scummy about the way I pushed Allison?

I do think it's kinda funny that you repeatedly said you were ready to go over if Alison flipped green but now anyone who votes for you is a wolf

Well actually I am not calling Ender wolf f.e. As town I pretty much know that Allison legacy is like a 0 level read for a wolf to hop on, Kill a townie and dont have to explain much.
Lily was a player with a strong tr on me and that I expect her to know how I play more. Lily having that read still irks me tbh and why I lean into them prob being 3p rather than town but we'll get there when we get there.

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:45 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:17 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:15 pm i am santysiding

Well actually the damage will never be healed tbh .

My towncore rn is Nook and only Nanook tbh

(Watch Nook end up being mafia)

So I despise this post with such a burning hatred I legit thought about just quoting it voting Santy and ignoring the thread the rest of the day.

Well actually I think thats skill issue because that post was based

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:51 pm I think having a full tracker doesn't make sense with all the partial tracking abilities we have. I also think your push on Alison sucked

Well actually @dyachei expand on which parts sucked and felt wolfy tbh.

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:33 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:44 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:31 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:09 pm Well actually @Lilypetal talk to me. Why I am mafia

something something killed alison

Well actually @Lilypetal that makes me mafia? Elaborate on your read and dont half ass it tbh.

What was scummy about the way I pushed Allison?

I do think it's kinda funny that you repeatedly said you were ready to go over if Alison flipped green but now anyone who votes for you is a wolf

Well actually I am not calling Ender wolf f.e. As town I pretty much know that Allison legacy is like a 0 level read for a wolf to hop on, Kill a townie and dont have to explain much.
Lily was a player with a strong tr on me and that I expect her to know how I play more. Lily having that read still irks me tbh and why I lean into them prob being 3p rather than town but we'll get there when we get there.

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:45 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:17 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:15 pm i am santysiding

Well actually the damage will never be healed tbh .

My towncore rn is Nook and only Nanook tbh

(Watch Nook end up being mafia)

So I despise this post with such a burning hatred I legit thought about just quoting it voting Santy and ignoring the thread the rest of the day.

Well actually I think thats skill issue because that post was based

Well actually and what you got of voting there tbh? Why not vote me now and make tje wagons more close and.. competitive? Idk the term

Have you made any questions to try to solve me? You attempted to do one the past day but I dont know what were you expecting of it or if you made anything with that.
You think Allison push on me made sense?
If yes, say what parts about it.
If not, then why you think I should die tbh

@dyachei

Well actually . Dya having something sussy or scummy / being protected by Porscha role also could answer why Belzy could have targeted Mac fwiw

Well actually being RB'ed means that he could ask a question but dont get an answer right? They got an answer?

Well actually ilario claimed to rb Rondo in n2 right?
Lily said to claim Rondo and saw that they didnt visit anyone.

Idk if Rondo claimed anything else there tbh. But those two stuff were claimed SoD so I think it could be like a kinda unlikely mech scum slip if Rondo claimed to have acted lr.something so Im lost

Well actually what happened with Rondo and Ilario?

Well actually I think my main issue with Dya is that I felt like they were actually too mild? Middling? Like I dont remember much of strong takes or reads from them , and fits in a position a wolf would want to be.

Like, I almost can imagine Dya in any team wowee

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:49 pm what do we think of Chamomile?

Well actually I think I havent been putting enough attention there.
Probs a Wolf if Wisp is also one. In V!Wisp worlds I think its more unlikely from them to be a wolf? They hard shielded Wisp taking Porscha as a first option to counterpush, so I think its prob a good look

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:45 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:40 pm Well actually. Explain your read on dya?

I'm assuming you're talking to me?

Dya and I got pushed into what I thought was a false difference check, which made me re-eval Dya's push on me (I often blanket OMGUS people who push me to see how they react and only form a real opinion on them after they react). Their reasons for suspecting me I think were actually well-grounded in what they knew about me as a player. I am playing differently in this game than in the games they've seen, so I think their thoughts were reasonable, and I kinda felt like they were town after I re-evaled.

Well actually I see.

So you think that they as a wolf couldnt see somewhat of a difference and make a push based on that? Like, you think the logic from it was nuanced would be my question. I have to reread it still so idk .

I think you are giving much credit to the diff cheack weirding you out, when by gamestate I think its highly likely that it was a correct read just because of how PoE was and stuff

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:45 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:43 pm Well actually no. If I dont do it Im going to be rb'ed + my vote for today doesnt count.

Cham was affected by it the previous day, thats why the OP gifs

I see. Do you know who did it?

Well actually, I think its kinda clear who did it. Im going to b surprised if it was not Ender. It makes the most sense reads wise and how they reacted to it

Well actually no. If I dont do it Im going to be rb'ed + my vote for today doesnt count.

Cham was affected by it the previous day, thats why the OP gifs

Well actually. Explain your read on dya?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:34 pm can someone explain the full Rondo claim and stuff for me?

Well actually I havent read it properly. But I kinda understood that they could get one of their in thread questions answered by the Host or something like that?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:31 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:27 pm Well actually . Like

Alison/Porscha were the main topic of discussion / lynch candidates. And in that threadstate Seanzie took a lot of focus in Belzy claim and pushed there. I think thats almost never W/W tbfh .

And I dont know who read Porscha spew and said that they looked good off it . Idk

I am not convinced belzy is mafia

Well actually me neither.

But unpaired with Belzy
Prob Unpaired with Dya
Good look from Porscha spew
Allison townread

They arent *clearing* reasons tbf, but they are enough as to make me want to look elsewhere rn

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:30 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:29 pm Well actually

Towncore: Nanook
Prob Town: Seanzie, Mac, Ender, Lily , Neon

Where do we go from there? Is there any obvtown that I am missing?

Lily is towncore, not prob town. Why is Nook there?

Well actually I really liked how Nook played SoD today.
How they handled stuff and went in thread tbh. ~Vibes~ but its my most comfy town atm

Well actually

PoE : Belzy , Cham , Dyachei , ilario , Millium , Rondo .

From there

Belzy : Cant yeet today anyways so why bother
Cham: I had a tr there but I lost it. Maybe have to revisit
Dya: They are playing the game. Poke at them tbh
Ilario: I feel like they are either carrying or trying to snow.? Wouldnt go here today regardless
Millium: Idk. Another one I still want to poke. But they were kinda the cw to Porscha tbh? They were voting Porscha and stuff
Rondo: The claim seems kinda bad. The vote on Porscha seems good. I dont have anything else

Well actually

Towncore: Nanook
Prob Town: Seanzie, Mac, Ender, Lily , Neon

Where do we go from there? Is there any obvtown that I am missing?