The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:51 pm Gg all.

I'll take my correct read of Sloonei as a small victory to forget this was a loss.

Sorry we failed at reading each other, haha. Let's try again next time! Hope you're doing well.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:43 pm I was briefly very happy when tony voted 112

Then returned to crushing disappointment

That’s right I’m gonna AtE you even in postgame

AtE gets a bad wrap sometimes. Emotion is a part of the game. I think there are certain lines, of course, but.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:43 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:40 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:39 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:37 pm Well... those are things I tend to have when I'm not insanely swamped with other things, haha. Let's play again sometime!
Ok but how do I get my name in a pink color cause I'll do anything kthx+please
Go back in time and found the site with me? That'd be cool!
Oh cool! That sounds awesome tbh tbh

Will work on that time machine! Nice color though ^^

I know right? I'd be down to have known you even longer for sure. And hehe, thank you!

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:39 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:37 pm Well... those are things I tend to have when I'm not insanely swamped with other things, haha. Let's play again sometime!
Ok but how do I get my name in a pink color cause I'll do anything kthx+please

Go back in time and found the site with me? That'd be cool!

Scirrus wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:37 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:33 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:25 pm I hope when I bleed town next game y'all can see it

You guys being close to lynching 112 before me on D4 makes me crie in hindsight lol

Maybe I switch up my playstyle tho idk. Not that I have any idea what I would change lol. Besides being less busy maybe
You were a pleasure! We sort of found each other at times at least, haha.
Ty M+, you were a pleasure to play with as well! I appreciated your activity and WIM for sure

Well... those are things I tend to have when I'm not insanely swamped with other things, haha. Let's play again sometime!

Scirrus wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:32 pm /in to Escape from Russia

Same.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:25 pm I hope when I bleed town next game y'all can see it

You guys being close to lynching 112 before me on D4 makes me crie in hindsight lol

Maybe I switch up my playstyle tho idk. Not that I have any idea what I would change lol. Besides being less busy maybe

You were a pleasure! We sort of found each other at times at least, haha.

At least Mac and I death tunneled each other as town, that was new and fun.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:03 pm I hate this game

I'm so sorry, you did fine! Don't sweat it. It was a weird game!

Congrats, 112!

Thanks again, everyone. Go town! I believe in you!

Hey at least we both death tunneled each other, that was a Thing.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:56 pm How the heck did that happen

Heh, oops. Some of that is on me admittedly. My bad.

I should clarify that if TSP is in an F3 that the other townie should evaluate him, lol. But man he still feels like never wolf here to me even now. Crazy stuff if he is.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:54 pm I feel like maybe I cleared TSP too easily but idk man he just seems so towny, there’s like at most one thing that pinged me and otherwise he’s just been, like, super town imo

Mood.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:53 pm If 112 and TSP are mafia together all my annoyance will disappear anyway.

To be fair, whoever is wolf here has played well. I also think we have a solid group of players remaining though. I BELIEVE IN YOU, TOWN!

Twilight posting go brrrrrr

Hey I passed 666 posts. Lmao.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:49 pm If you are town I actually hope it's a world of 2 and the game is over. I actually have a feeling it is tbh.

That actually would be a relief. Not going to lie, I'm selfishly a bit glad to die, at least this game will finally be off my shoulders. I'm 99% sad though I couldn't clear myself.

You are all a pleasure. I do apologize if I made the game less pleasant for anyone. I look forward to the next one, although boy will I need a bit of a breather.

I'm so sorry man, glgl if you are actually town. You can do it. I mean it!

Hey at least I won't be in LYLO for once! That's something! The streak ends!

Glgl have a fun F3!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:45 pm If you're town, I do not.

Ouch. Perhaps we both fucked up then. If so, I really am sorry for going kamikaze on you.

I do think you're one of the best mafia players I've ever known though. You absolutely can do it.

Thanks for the game, G-Man. Always a pleasure.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:43 pm Trying to figure out what's going on in people's brains is the best way to actually describe how I've been treating you for the past 4 hours. For you to not see that speaks volumes.

Perhaps that's true. If so I'm sorry I doubted you. It's certainly been a rough game for me.

If you are town, I believe in your ability to win.

You're a cool dude, Mac. Let's continue to play again for plenty of years to come. Good luck regardless of your alignment, but if you're wolf I absolutely hope they burn you in F3 and I get vindicated.

I'm keeping my vote on Mac.

It could be 112. Please give her adequate evaluation.

I don't think it's Nanook actually. My gut keeps finding him as town. I think there's a reason for that.

It's never TSP.

Good luck, everyone. I believe in you.

I've been trying to write it for the last... half hour? But I've been distracted with work and saying things in thread too.

I think the way that Mac has treated players across this game speaks from agenda.

Whiteknighting 112.

Burning me while Sloonei was whiteknighting me.

Playing around Sloonei and Soneji while never committing.

Keeping his options open today.

Openly powerwolfing with interactions to make things seem a certain way instead of trying to figure out what actually is happening in people's brains. Admittedly his first round was pretty good, but his second round stinks of this.

Why I want to set Macdougall on fire

Fuck me, I'm not going to get to come close to finishing this. I guess if I really wanted to convince people I should have tried harder to make my approach seem less chaotic? Whatever. I don't feel it's 100% on me, but I'll accept that responsibility nonetheless.

Spoiler: show

First time that Sloonei mentions Mac here, no read, but understandably alright.

Spoiler: show

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:27 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:12 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:04 pm I could go for 112. That “thunderdome” suggestion is the antithesis of all things good and civilian.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine
Hey, let's talk for a bit while I have some time. What else are you thinking? I know it's been a weird start for you, but I need inside your brain a bit.
My vote has been on Tony because I didn’t care for the way he framed his juliets vote, but my initial reaction to nova was a decent town lean for Night 0. And then I’ve also begun to wonder about the way juliets approached me on Day 1. She repeatedly asked me about games that are not this one, and then she dropped out.

I owe wilgy a more thorough review after the way yesterday played out, and in an ideal world I’d like to review the bandwagon against me, but I still don’t have the motivation to undertake a big project like that.

You and I have both been pushed around by Epi in this game, and I believe you mentiond that he was ripping your posts out of context to spin accusations against you. I also felt the same way about his case on me, and I believe I said so as well. But coming from Epi I do not see this as necessarily a bad thing. He operates according to his own gameplan regardless of alignment. When I’ve caught him as mafia in the past, it’s been because his posts seem to be working toward a clear agenda while shutting out or denying alternatives. Which version of Epi do you feel is more likely in this game right now?
I'm a bit torn on it. I thought he was being a boneheaded townie all of d1, and I'm still inclined to view him that way, but his singular focus would be easy enough to replicate as town and I also feel like he's just seeing what he wants to see, which indicates a lack of agenda. It's been a while since I've played with scum Epi though.

What do you think of Mac? I had a read on him that he would try harder to develop his own reads if he was scum here, does that make sense to you?
My presence in the thread has not overlapped with mac at all and I’m terrible at reading him anyway. I can’t offer any thoughts on him right now.

First time that Sloonei mentions Mac in a game-related way. Over 1,000 posts in. Still no read.

Spoiler: show

This is the first time Sloonei and/or Mac mention or interact with each other from what I can tell. Day 2. No read. Softball question and interaction. And it's a good example of the constant 112 whiteknighting that Mac has been doing to 112 all game, and setting up a dichotomy. If you don't believe me, search his ISO for "112". It's alarmingly TMI.

Spoiler: show

Softball stuff. No real assessment of each other.

Spoiler: show

Sigh.

Spoiler: show

Post number 1360 and Sloonei still openly hedges on Mac. LITERALLY NO READ HAS BEEN EXPRESSED.

Sloonei literally goes to his grave literally having never made a read about Mac. ON DAY FUCKING 3.

There's more. Go dig for it. Be thorough. I'm running out of time. Glgl, here's all I could do.

Good luck.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm I do not have any reason to to suspect MP at this time.
Naww Sloonei reverted to his usual self when Mac started Maccing. I like this. You can be town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:37 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:35 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:34 pm Looking at everything... I still really think it's Mac.
If I'm applying body of work reads to everyone, his play is absolutely by far the most compatible with wolfy agenda, especially considering Sloonei and Soneji as the other flips.

I'm sorry I couldn't better explain the inner workings of my brain on this to you all.
I voted on Sloonei twice.

They were not backed by anything. Whatever. You're wolf dude. Nicely played though. You'll earn it if you win.

I need more time. Fuck.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm I do not have any reason to to suspect MP at this time.
Naww Sloonei reverted to his usual self when Mac started Maccing. I like this. You can be town.
Sloonbot activated
Also wtf dude you literally agreed you (at least briefly) were playing like your normal self, but when I say I TR you for doing sloonei things it’s wrong?

Fuck outta here

FWIW I don't think wolf Nanook says this to his wolfmate. CONSIDER THIS IN F3.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:34 pm Looking at everything... I still really think it's Mac.

If I'm applying body of work reads to everyone, his play is absolutely by far the most compatible with wolfy agenda, especially considering Sloonei and Soneji as the other flips.

I'm sorry I couldn't better explain the inner workings of my brain on this to you all.

Looking at everything... I still really think it's Mac.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:32 pm Fair enough. I’m honestly not even that confident you’re mafia as much as I have more reasons to TR other people. Hopefully it’s right, and I’m sorry if you’re town man

No worries, we're cool. It happens, right? Sloonei blind sighted me. This is certainly not one of my good games as far as that goes.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:27 pm Tbh I really hope Epi was 2/3

But yeah, like...the only person not really doing much today AFAICT is 112, so I get your frustration knheneral but I don’t really get your “nobody is doing anything wtf” attitude

That's... not exactly what I meant, but perhaps I didn't explain it well. I admittedly am just openly dumping my frustrations in here.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:26 pm

Oops.

This was just a rough game. I feel like town has drifted. No one has really come around to lead town. Epi tried. To his credit I didn't listen. I tried. I don't know what else to say. It's been very fragmented all game. I suppose that sort of environment leads to these situations.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:23 pm EOD is right around supper and put-the-toddler-to-bed time, so. It’s not ideal for me

I think I’ve done some good work during the day though, so like...I’m comfortable with the amount I’ve contributed today tbh.

That's fair. I'm sorry we didn't find each other exactly.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:19 pm It's 11.20am on a workday for me and I am currently on a zoom call.

Oh I'm not singling you out. I appreciate your efforts for sure. I just... it's weird for there to be collectively a ghost town at EoD.

How am I the only player trying to solve at this moment?

Dammit, I'm going to run out of time. I'll post what I can.

(Reminded of this because looking back)

Lol that Scirrus found me as town and I almost found him and then got paranoid and misyeeted him. Sorry about that man. Let's play together again.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:06 pm I get it. If you’re town leave us your legacy. Is it just mac? If you’re town I’ll listen to you in f3. Likely won’t matter lolol, but I’d pay attention to what you said if the game continues

I'm not totally sure. I still think it is. I'm re-examining his and Sloonei's ISO using a multi-ISO approach right now with fresh eyes just to be sure.

I appreciate it man. I didn't mean to imply that you or anyone else has ignored me completely or anything. I just... I don't know, I never got that "groove" I get with anyone like I often do when I work with towncore in other games. It just never happened.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:02 pm I’ve tried to work with you quite a bit this game I think, so like...idk it seems like kind of a disingenuous complaint to me, tbh?

That's fine, you can feel however you want, it was not intended to be hurtful or anything. I'm just really frustrated.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:21 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:19 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:17 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:14 pm Oh, also Nanook, Mac got lynched Day 1 when he was IMO clear town in Banjo. He's obviously not clear town here, but I would feel like ass lynching him d1 again here. So *shrug*, that's another reason I'd put him in the let's give him another day category I suppose.
I thought he was clearly town that game too IIRC, doesn’t affect my desire to kill or not kill him here
You have a more logical mafia brain than I do then, and I commend you.
I’ve also played games with him since, tbf
Ah, yeah, that's the last game I've played with him and it'd be nice to actually play with him here.

I do hate his Sloonei vote though. @MacDougall, do something about that please. Place it on a different person or wagon so we can get some dynamic progression before we shrug lynch Sloonei on Day 1. Anything for more information.

This doesn't really have to do with anything, but it'd be funny if Mac placed a meaningless vote on his wolfmate on Day 1.

I'm at least going to try to pull together what I can here about Mac since no one bothered to look at his interactions for some reason even after I made all these posts. I honestly couldn't feel any more dejected than I do at this moment.

I need you, TSP.

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