The Syndicate

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:32 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:22 pm And I am not trying to buddy up or reinstate the LC Connection that I was forced to poop all over when I was bad.

I just don't see what people see in it.

Me either

What do you think of my suspicion of S~V~S? Sane or not sane?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:28 pm Like I'm legit pulling the fuck back Day 3 if we get Leetic out, especially if he flips mafia.

I want this vote so bad though, you have no idea.

I do appreciate the Mafia passion! Also, I just almost jumped out of my skin for a sec, thinking the deadline had passed half an hour ago!

But wouldn't Tony be the initial rule breaker, if indeed the rules had been broken? If he can bring it up, then it's fair game to ask about, isn't it?

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:25 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:19 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:14 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:12 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 11:16 am

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:08 pm

And you know that how?

need to think about Lorab trying to push for info where/how she knows she shouldn't.

Huh?

If they knew "that" through their role, talking about it is forbidden.

Is that role fishing or not?

I'd go with "not", and add that if it lightly treads on it, I believe it was unintentional.

Unintentional like town curiosity?

More like I don't think it is alignment-indicative either way, and it's regular curiosity. I also had that question, in my head. So I get asking.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:23 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:22 pm And I am not trying to buddy up or reinstate the LC Connection that I was forced to poop all over when I was bad.

I just don't see what people see in it.

Oh I'm all for the LC Connection and would love to work with you obviously the last game fucked with me but hell you're actually using your head.

You could reread the post I made with the individual orange-text responses. I bet you skimmed it. That was the start of the me and S~V~S thing.

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:19 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:26 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:40 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:35 pm Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

I can recall off the top of my head two games where Wilgy played the long game and played it hard and well, as YOUR bad teammate.

I find this post troubling tbh, and can’t think of a reason why you would say this as town.

I’ve never seen a player do aggressively (and successfully) defend a teammate as he did YOU in Cyberpunk.

Even though he wound up losing that was probably one of the single best Mafia performances I’ve ever seen.

I love this post by SVS and agree.

I’m also not sure I like how quickly Lime shifted into an NKA/search to find who might’ve killed him. It’s a red flag for sure.

This all makes a lot of sense to me. I’ve never played with Brad before (I don’t think), which makes it hard to read him. But all this does make me eyeball him.

When you say it makes sense to you, remember to read my Shinny Style dissection of this post you love, and my extensive arguments against its value, and even its veracity!

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:19 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:14 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:12 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 11:16 am

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:08 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:23 pm I mean the reality of it is that wilgy is captain america so therefore he's town

people in game pls don't comment on this in ways that reveal information about your role (against the rules), keep all speculation above ground

And you know that how?

need to think about Lorab trying to push for info where/how she knows she shouldn't.

Huh?

If they knew "that" through their role, talking about it is forbidden.

Is that role fishing or not?

I'd go with "not", and add that if it lightly treads on it, I believe it was unintentional.

And I am not trying to buddy up or reinstate the LC Connection that I was forced to poop all over when I was bad.

I just don't see what people see in it.

It's like in They Live, and we have the sunglasses.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:16 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:16 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:14 pm Because this is such BS that I'm putting in this much effort and y'all are hung up on 1 fucking thing.

Might almost find it suspicious.... nahhhh

It's a stupid ass thing to be suspicious about.

Not YOU

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:14 pm @Long Con @S~V~S

I swear to god though if I end up getting misyeeted you two BETTER fucking vote out Leetic the next day because this is fucking ridiculous.

I'm, like, on your side, and suspecting S~V~S about the whole thing. I don't know if you realize that.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:14 pm Because this is such BS that I'm putting in this much effort and y'all are hung up on 1 fucking thing.

Might almost find it suspicious.... nahhhh

(I know Tony's pronouns, I just forgot which name in the QUOTE cluster was the one)

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:12 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 11:16 am

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:08 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:23 pm I mean the reality of it is that wilgy is captain america so therefore he's town

people in game pls don't comment on this in ways that reveal information about your role (against the rules), keep all speculation above ground

And you know that how?

need to think about Lorab trying to push for info where/how she knows she shouldn't.

Huh?

If they knew "that" through their role, talking about it is forbidden.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:07 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:56 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:51 pm I fell asleep after a full IRL day (the schedule chamged out of the blue) and I can't catch up so fast..

why are you voting Brad, @S~V~S ?

Also, after my thread time with Brad this AM, I was actually leaning away from it, but LC reminded me of why I sussed him in the first place.

For his post about Wilgy being low poster and not a threat (something like that, iirc)?
I don't see what's wolfy about having that opinion. It's unispired, bad worded, etc, but why would a wolf say that and kill Wilgy afterwards?

Well, Wilgy was killed and THEN he said it. In response.

My understanding of S~V~S' suspicion is that it's wolfy because Brad knows better than do ever dismiss Wilgy, so this dismissal is more likely a Wolf cover than the truth.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:50 pm This is the Shinny special, where a person breaks apart one post and makes it sound like a case.

It doesn't trouble me. You going out further on a limb to address a passing observation I made about someone else, that I didn't even vote on at the time, DOES kinda trouble me, though.

Brads post was very different. Wilgy broke his ass trying to save Brad, he was the civviest civvie that ever civved. Brad knows better. Yours says nothing about Wilgys capabilities, just projects about how you would have behaved in this scenario.

In any case, I don't know what I think about that first person bit. It was very very weird.

You can call it what you want. I read that post, and didn't get why it implicated Brad, and read it again, and realized that it's more like... a stance looking for a reason, than a proper suspicion. I guess. Maybe that's better-sounding than it is concise. I stand by my orange points.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:32 pm No, I capitalize to emphasize it, I often say my sentences aloud as I type (i live alone ) and that's the easiest way to emphasize a point where I verbally emphasize it as I write it.

Sorry you don't think my reasoning is all that, but, tbh, we seldom see eye to eye. So I'm cool with it. You do you.

No, we have not reached understanding on this front.

I KNOW *why* you capitalized. Yes, emphasis. Just like talking. If you said those sentences aloud, I fully understand why you would put emphasis on that text. I hear it in my mind, it was the right emphasis and I wouldn't change a thing.

My gripe is that you used it at all. My gripe is, when you said it aloud to yourself, it sounded like that instead of.... not.

It's this emphasis that makes the sentence ACCUSATIONAL! I don't think the points you made warranted that accusational tone of voice, and that you are more interested in yeeting Brad than you are in figuring out Brad.

And your analysis showed nothing of the sort. It showed you disagree with me. Cool. I still feel that way. I had almost forgotten how sus Brad looked to me, since he was pretty reasonable and open this AM. Thanks for reminding me.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Ok, so is Town S~V~S a shit-disturber?

Also, not so sure I believe that re the first person bit. Like at all. "Didn't I say" and then paraphrasing what Brad in fact said, not sure about that.

Oh, I'm not paraphrasing him. I'm paraphrasing me!

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:55 pm I would find it doubtful that a player would have more than one survival. That's heavy. I think they saw the people considering Wilgy as a probable Town and acted.

I would expect people to start asking questions after a couple of nights about why he's still around, and maybe public opinion turning on him. Maybe it would be too clever for my own good, but I probably would not have killed him, just not for the same reasons you're saying.

Does this post trouble you, as Brad's similar one did?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:22 pm Seriously @Long Con why did you put that in the first person? Unless you were quoting an inline Brad reply I haven't seen yet?

Sorry, didn't intend to confuse! As explained in my last post, it was referencing me and my post in comparison to Brad's.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:20 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:02 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:40 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:35 pm Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

I can recall off the top of my head two games where Wilgy played the long game and played it hard and well, as YOUR bad teammate.
So what's your point here? If Wilgy is known to play the long game, then that jives with Lime Coke saying he wouldn't feel the need to instantly nightkill him. You capitalized YOUR like you have something to shove in Brad's face but what is it??

I find this post troubling tbh, and can’t think of a reason why you would say this as town.
Didn't I say something like "If I were a Wolf, I'd have let Wilgy stay alive until it was too suspicious!" Not those exact words, but I'm certain I conveyed the idea. Maybe the reason a Town would say something like this is that it might help find the mindset of a player that WOULD nk him? I think finding this post troubling for that reason is a little hollow.

I’ve never seen a player do aggressively (and successfully) defend a teammate as he did YOU in Cyberpunk.
Relevance to the point? I don't see how this really relates, but there's that accusational capitalization again.

Even though he wound up losing that was probably one of the single best Mafia performances I’ve ever seen.
But we're not talking about Mafia Wilgy here! So references to his magnificent abilities as a Wolf are not relevant! If you think Brad is a Wolf then references to times when Wilgy was left unchecked and demolished all the Wolves as Town would have been relevant.

It just feels like this post went a lot of places and conveyed a lot of accusational feelings without cementing a single point.

Ah, now I know who wrote it! Why was this part in first person as if you were defending your own post? Didn't I say something like "If I were a Wolf, I'd have let Wilgy stay alive until it was too suspicious!" Not those exact words, but I'm certain I conveyed the idea. Maybe the reason a Town would say something like this is that it might help find the mindset of a player that WOULD nk him? I think finding this post troubling for that reason is a little hollow. I larged it up there in context.

Actually, it went one place. The place where I pointed out that I felt this post was a bad look becasue of it's dismissive treatment of Wilgy in general. A formidable player is formidable regardless of affiliation. Brad knows that, YOU (Je n'accuse!) know that. So slicing me apart like that feels fairly performative to me on your part.

I was comparing him to me when I used the first-person in the enlarged part. I am someone else who did the thing that troubles you, but you didn't bring it up. If it troubeld you, one would think you'd say something maybe?

I wasn't commenting on the method of 'text-effect'. I was commenting on the meaning behind accenting those words.

The reason you want to bold/italicize/capitalize those words is because it is the equivalent of shoving a pointing finger sharply in his direction. Right? As you say "you", you want to add an accusation lilt to it.

I'm not hostile, but I am suspicious. Take it that way, not hostility, please my friend. I am suspicious because it looks like you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, and I don't think the reasoning is sound.

It looks good on the surface, and sig even said he loves it. But as my analysis showed, it doesn't hold up, and it looks more like hollow propaganda. For starters, you completely ignore that Lime Coke said Wilgy's inactivity was the first reason why he wouldn't prioritize the kill, and I think that's a much more relevant point than "scary", which you focused entirely on, and is much more subjective. You're telling him what's scary to him, and what's not?

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:34 pm @leetic Do you have reads? Are you game-solving? There's a rumour to the contrary, but I'm not down with rumours, I want to hear it from the man himself.

I'd say TSP, S~V~S, and you can be townleans, and perhaps AS and roxy from meta. Still don't really like LC, and there are still plenty of inactives to sort through.

Someone's gonna ask you to explain each one. Might as well be me, now.

@leetic Do you have reads? Are you game-solving? There's a rumour to the contrary, but I'm not down with rumours, I want to hear it from the man himself.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:23 pm I guess it's good to know about Loki's ability, although I'm not sure what town can do to counter it. I guess one point to keep in mind is that if wolves use the ability to defend one of their own, it would necessitate a hard TR on the player they're switching with, so I guess we'll have to keep that in mind. I guess that makes the ability not as powerful as it appears at first glance, as if the wrong person gets lynched it's pretty obvious that the failed lynch target is bad, but it can still fuck up -yLo.

You mean they wanna be sure about who's *not* getting yeeted before the Day begins. They do have votes, and voices, to use to help ensure that a certain player doesn't go, should the plan start to go south.

*based on

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:16 pmThese are mainly it.

And literally most of that argument with him is the same exact thing. He point blank refuses to game solve beyond making votes for limited reasons.
He's voted you and I don't think he's even re-evaluated or even tried to make an actual read on you since then. It was just a vote flopped on and never spoke about it.

Ok, but that all sounds like bias based to the fact that you guys were butting heads. I don't want to throw in with polarization - you're feeling these things strongly, but I don't know if any of that screams Wolf to me. I need to go and see the posts in context before I decide.

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:58 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:31 pm @Roxy
Yes because iirc Motobots vote was the third. Abigail’s vote on Wilgy was even sketchier imo, but that vote hadn’t been made when I posted about motos vote.

Leetic was also sketchy but it wasn’t a pile on. “Random” or “vibe” pile ons always strike me as sus.

I thought Porschas was a joke at the time. Although in retrospect, TSPs “Willy is bad” “oh wait maybe not” “his posts are bad” “ maybe not” thing yet leaving his vote on Wilgy was also mega sketch.

Agree on all points. Makes me feel we are of the same mind which in turn quig's (kwig's?) me out a bit

Either spelling, that's a slang I don't know! And yet I understand.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:03 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:51 pm Hey LC, you just yelled. What's up, tell me your story.

You're seeing it here. Are there reasons you have to townread Leetic or are you willing to vote there?

Right now, I'm not specifically suspicious of him for earlier things, namely his vote on me. I glaze-skimmed over the initial too-long back-and-forth between you guys because it got too muddy, and I'm starting a reread of everything since yesterday morning. Maybe I'll suspect him more after that. I'll pay special attention to your reasons and consider them.

sig wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:26 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:40 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:35 pm Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

I can recall off the top of my head two games where Wilgy played the long game and played it hard and well, as YOUR bad teammate.

I find this post troubling tbh, and can’t think of a reason why you would say this as town.

I’ve never seen a player do aggressively (and successfully) defend a teammate as he did YOU in Cyberpunk.

Even though he wound up losing that was probably one of the single best Mafia performances I’ve ever seen.

I love this post by SVS and agree.

Do you love it because it is a glowing compliment to Wilgy, and you agree that he should be credited as such? Or do you love how it clarifies the reasons Lime Coke's post is suspicious?

I’m also not sure I like how quickly Lime shifted into an NKA/search to find who might’ve killed him. It’s a red flag for sure.

I don't remember that specifically, and Brad denies it. What's this about again?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:40 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:35 pm Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

I can recall off the top of my head two games where Wilgy played the long game and played it hard and well, as YOUR bad teammate.
So what's your point here? If Wilgy is known to play the long game, then that jives with Lime Coke saying he wouldn't feel the need to instantly nightkill him. You capitalized YOUR like you have something to shove in Brad's face but what is it??

I find this post troubling tbh, and can’t think of a reason why you would say this as town.
Didn't I say something like "If I were a Wolf, I'd have let Wilgy stay alive until it was too suspicious!" Not those exact words, but I'm certain I conveyed the idea. Maybe the reason a Town would say something like this is that it might help find the mindset of a player that WOULD nk him? I think finding this post troubling for that reason is a little hollow.

I’ve never seen a player do aggressively (and successfully) defend a teammate as he did YOU in Cyberpunk.
Relevance to the point? I don't see how this really relates, but there's that accusational capitalization again.

Even though he wound up losing that was probably one of the single best Mafia performances I’ve ever seen.
But we're not talking about Mafia Wilgy here! So references to his magnificent abilities as a Wolf are not relevant! If you think Brad is a Wolf then references to times when Wilgy was left unchecked and demolished all the Wolves as Town would have been relevant.

It just feels like this post went a lot of places and conveyed a lot of accusational feelings without cementing a single point.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:44 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:26 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:40 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:35 pm Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

I can recall off the top of my head two games where Wilgy played the long game and played it hard and well, as YOUR bad teammate.

I find this post troubling tbh, and can’t think of a reason why you would say this as town.

I’ve never seen a player do aggressively (and successfully) defend a teammate as he did YOU in Cyberpunk.

Even though he wound up losing that was probably one of the single best Mafia performances I’ve ever seen.

I love this post by SVS and agree.

I’m also not sure I like how quickly Lime shifted into an NKA/search to find who might’ve killed him. It’s a red flag for sure.

Oh my God.

I DIDN'T EVEN DO THAT

LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE HAS

ARE YOU KIDDING ME WITH THIS?

I just read through that quote chain again and I definitely have criticisms.

I don't put much stock in "Wilgy's really good so it's suspicious that you say you WOULDN'T have killed him." Is that what people are saying?

Hey LC, you just yelled. What's up, tell me your story.

I wasn't really around yesterday, it was one of those days. I tried to keep up during scraps of time by catching up on my phone, so I'm "caught up", but I really need to do a nice desktop reread. Maybe a cup of tea.

I did see someone still mentioning leetic's D1 vote on me. I just want to say that I don't hold it against him/find it suspicious. It was D1 and the game needed to get going. It's, like... legit enough for me. I don't think I suspect leetic at this time.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:38 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:32 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:23 pm I mean the reality of it is that wilgy is captain america so therefore he's town

people in game pls don't comment on this in ways that reveal information about your role (against the rules), keep all speculation above ground

Where did you get this theory from?

It’s pretty conspiratorial but looks like other people picked up on it so I’m willing to explain. There’s a famous comic storyline where Cap evades death a few times and is eventually comic-book-killed by a sniper [no spoilers], the write ups are reminiscent of that.

No spoilers, gotcha. I won't mention the time-bullet.

You went a little deeper on your Cap analysis - I just thought it would be flavourful and character-appropriate for Cap's ability to be surviving a deah... because he has an indestructible shield.

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:47 pm I just noticed these on pg 1:

VISION
Technopathy
On one occasion, you may assume complete control over the next Day’s poll. At Night, you can select four to six names to appear.


SPIDER-MAN
Web Shot
You protect your target from all Night actions in a thick webbing, but this renders your target blocked at the same time.


LOKI
Trick Poll
Each Night, you may switch the names of two people in the poll. These names will appear normally on the poll, but if one of the two is voted out, the other is killed instead. You may target yourself. The double targeting rule applies.



Were these always there bc I do not remember them?

Noice.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:48 pm Holy Crocodile that Loki ability is obnoxious

Total flavour win though. Epi done good.

I felt like Wilgy was Captain America as well.

Damn, you took an I'll be back pill? You can't work on those, you'll be terminated.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:59 pmIf you don't then I'm going to tunnel your ass out.

I feel like I have so many things to say, and at the same time I can't find the right one.

I would find it doubtful that a player would have more than one survival. That's heavy. I think they saw the people considering Wilgy as a probable Town and acted.

I would expect people to start asking questions after a couple of nights about why he's still around, and maybe public opinion turning on him. Maybe it would be too clever for my own good, but I probably would not have killed him, just not for the same reasons you're saying.

If wilgy had not been nightkilled, how long would it take before we became suspicious of his survival?

And of course, deadpool has the healing factor so him surviving a kill would be flavourful.

Wilgy could very well be Thanos as much as Deadpool. Thanos was barred from Death's realm for some time and unable to die because she didn't want him around.

I hope you guys worked this out. I tried to get through it but that is some lengthy, dense, repetitive, snarky stuff.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:06 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:54 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:05 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?

Looking for reactions much? obv is obv. Sorry.

Is it obv tho? You may or may not be in the minority of people who got that. I've seen a couple of ""LC wants to yeet low posters" kind of talk out there.

If the question was a reaction test, do you have a conclusion based on it?

No... it's not a scientific process, it was a conversational push.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:05 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?

Looking for reactions much? obv is obv. Sorry.

Is it obv tho? You may or may not be in the minority of people who got that. I've seen a couple of ""LC wants to yeet low posters" kind of talk out there.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:44 pm

Spoiler: show

Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?

If we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.

Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.

But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:20 pm

Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?

If we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.

Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.

But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.

Are they better or worse than nothing?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:01 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:30 pm

Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?

If we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.

Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.

But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.

By "a lot", do you mean the twice?




IIRC TonyPrime brought up the gamblers fallacy, and I brought up intuition...what other mentions of these terms did you see?

I asked Tony what his intuition told him, and he gave a couple of answers to that. I took "a lot" to mean "general attitudes of which those things were an example".

This soft interrogation of Simon looks both pointless and predatory. [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

You both simply asked questions - something we do in mafia to figure stuff out. Why is falcon predatory and not you?

Simon and Abagail are both young treading softly and softball questions are the right way to go imho.

Well, that's kind of the answer to your question. I didn't think that putting Simon's feet over the flames to get right to the bottom of exactly how much "a lot" is,and just how Wolfy it makes him if we find out he is deceiving us about how many times "intuition" was said, was really "softball". And like I said, I thought it was odd as well when I read it, but Idecided it didn't matter and leeway was appropriate. Then falcon went the other way.

And I don't even really care about that any more. I was trying to get some things going on a very quiet Day 1, and falcon's thing irked me enough to use that. It is 100% true that asking questions and probing is good for Day 1, and falcon could easily be Town. Several people have felt he is acting like his Town self after that interaction with me, and if that's true then I'd be happy with those results.

Simon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:55 pm

Simon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:37 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:56 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:00 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:24 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:33 am

motobot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:49 pm That being said. [VOTE: Long con] aubergine

Vote and hope based on what? Did you pick him at random?

I tend to be the person most sus of LC, and I pretty much always bad read him. So now i am up to him having 2 votes for Trivia.

Not liking this, gonna be honest. It feels kinda icky.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:05 pm


You did so once, and only after I brought up intuition...and predatory of Simon eh?





Why is Simon Town?

Just because you think someone may not be bad, doesn't exactly mean you also think they are town. Especially on a quiet Day One.

Like you, for instance. You feel sincere to me, I don't particularly think you're bad. But I haven't seem very much yet to point to and say, "Ah, Falcon is town", just a general attitude.

I will say that your vote for LC seems the most sincere to me of the three he has currently.

@Michelle why the Falcon vote? His slight aggro edge feels more like town Falc to me. Was it just a joke "no u" thing", since he had a vote on you at that point?

I have one errand to run about noonish, but otherwise I'll be in and out all day.

That's understandable, I get that. Differences in my mind are that LC did not say that, or anything, to answer my question, but framed it in somewhat demeaning light

By "demeaning", you mean "accusational", right?

Syn expressed he had similar thoughts re: Simon, and was intending to follow up as well

I also had similar thoughts re: Simon, and then I realized that picking apart exactly what his definition of "a lot" is would be a little pedantic and bullying, and wouldn't likely bear any game-relevant fruit, so I chose not to do it. Why would you focus on something so nitpicky? What result did you imagine coming from it besides maybe Simon having less confidence in speaking his mind, for fear that it's going to be linguistically dissected and get him called out on whatever minor definitional discrepancy you decide to pounce on?

I'm trying to be as helpful as possible for you to understand where I'm coming from here, because I was less concise and more reactionary in my stance last night.

No, I think calling my question a "limp noodle" is somewhat demeaning






I asked Simon one question, and it seems as tho you are trying to make it sound as if it's my sole focus...the fact that you are now saying you also felt the way I did re: Simon's post is interesting, as your reaction to my question is quite different than Simon's, or Syns, or anybody...even tho you felt the same






Simon's answer to my question was fine, and made sense to me, as I've had the same experience. You're taking a lot of exception on his behalf... @Simon do you feel I was being pedantic, bullying, predatory, or have less confidence to speak your mind?






Does anyone else?

Not as much as others who have recently been interpreting this.

Let's just say that I've never been good with my choice of words. To the point where in this context, I felt as if one wrong word could change the course of someone's innocence. And when you asked me that "a lot" or "twice" question, it wasn't looking too good for me.

However that all supposedly changed when this one question also managed to spark a bit of discord among others. Even now, I still can't tell if a smart move or not.

Actually, what if it's possible that falcon has intentionally been trying to find something among the nothingness to start an Argument, and I just so happened to be the prey.

I previously mentioned that my process of thought was that one little thing can change a lot on someone. It's not confirmed if I was specifically supposed to be a target, and it definitely is a stretch.

I don't know though, I'm just considering possible situations that would make sense to me.

If Falcon was intentionally trying to start an argument, what does that make you think of him? Is he more Towny because he's trying to generate content? Or is it Wolfy to treat you as "prey"?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:27 pm In reality I do townread SVS's entire line of posting.

Regardless of the alignments of Falcon and LC, I feel like the amount of time spent questioning those wagons and talking about how bad they are feels like too much for a person to have mental patience for if that person was mafia.
I feel like eventually she'd just get too bored or tired and just leave the wagon situation and do something else with the game.

I'm in. I agree the SVS is town.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:14 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:47 pm Hello, back in time for EoD. Sorry for my low activity, these past few days just haven't been great for me. My choice of LC was somewhat arbitrary, as I wanted to get things started, but suggesting a lynch on a no poster is never a good sign.

Eh, disagree. Suggesting lynching a no show/low show is rarely a baddie, in my experience. Baddies joining in, sure. But it’s generally initially offered out a way to make the first round make some sort of sense, and maybe help out the host. This does not make me suspect LC at all.

Anyway, I never suggested we eliminate. a low poster.

Open nights?

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:14 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Your two posts this phase are a whole lot of nothing even for RVS.

Also, my post to Lorab was not a whole lotta nothing. It was steeped in layers of history, both recent and otherwise. Lorab personally requested and oversaw the creation of the emoji and it was to represent players such as I who were too evil. Many years ago.

In our last (?) game together, Lorab cited my use of that emoji as part of her suspicion of me, and I countered that with several examples of me using it in recent games as Town.

So, now that you know all that, please don't tell me that flashing it at her from the get-go is a whole lot of nothing.