The Syndicate

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:44 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:44 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:38 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:36 pm Why would Mafia My Shell fake claim vig today?

You realise vig doesn't even have to be town right

No.

Wait you think vig is automatically town? LOL

We know there is no third party role.
A “mafia vigilante” is just a regular mafia goon, or else the mafia team has a bonus kill. I highly doubt that’s the case.

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:38 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:36 pm Why would Mafia My Shell fake claim vig today?

You realise vig doesn't even have to be town right

No.

Why would Mafia My Shell fake claim vig today?

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:10 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:09 pm Nutella always flips town here you guys suck

Who doesn’t!

Sorry I didn’t mean to yell

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:09 pm Nutella always flips town here you guys suck

Who doesn’t!

Let’s all entertain a Fuskdall tinfoil.

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:35 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:28 pm

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:22 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:20 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:17 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:14 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:11 pm
Well you better start thinking soon because I am.

Currently I think I suspect Maid the most, followed by PSP, followed by you. After some re-reads especially of your long explanation post and the stubborn way you have attacked me, it feels slightly town, not enough to clear you but enough to put you above the other two.

Maid and TopShelfProduct are my two strongest townreads coming out of my adventure last night.

You have explained Maid, what about TSP?

They were bluntly skeptical of me for reasons that weren’t there initially (a bit like you), but reversed their stance in a way that looked transparent and genuine once I re-appeared as my more serious self today.

That sounds like me as well

You never explained why you thought I was bad initially.

First of all you disappeared most of D2 and then your stuff this phase was weird and got weirder and felt like you were making questionable pushes. But your long posts about getting reactions seemed real and I figured it was probably real solving.

Agree Quokka feels better now too but I am wary of the "proveable" claim being a fake tricksy thing

What was bad about my behavior on Day 3 specifically?

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:22 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:20 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:17 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:14 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:11 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:05 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:54 pm Martin who will you suspect if I am town?

Idk. You?

Well you better start thinking soon because I am.

Currently I think I suspect Maid the most, followed by PSP, followed by you. After some re-reads especially of your long explanation post and the stubborn way you have attacked me, it feels slightly town, not enough to clear you but enough to put you above the other two.

Maid and TopShelfProduct are my two strongest townreads coming out of my adventure last night.

You have explained Maid, what about TSP?

They were bluntly skeptical of me for reasons that weren’t there initially (a bit like you), but reversed their stance in a way that looked transparent and genuine once I re-appeared as my more serious self today.

That sounds like me as well

You never explained why you thought I was bad initially.

Quokka feels town now.

I still think their POE is entirely wrong.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:17 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:14 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:11 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:05 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:54 pm Martin who will you suspect if I am town?

Idk. You?

Well you better start thinking soon because I am.

Currently I think I suspect Maid the most, followed by PSP, followed by you. After some re-reads especially of your long explanation post and the stubborn way you have attacked me, it feels slightly town, not enough to clear you but enough to put you above the other two.

Maid and TopShelfProduct are my two strongest townreads coming out of my adventure last night.

You have explained Maid, what about TSP?

They were bluntly skeptical of me for reasons that weren’t there initially (a bit like you), but reversed their stance in a way that looked transparent and genuine once I re-appeared as my more serious self today.

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:16 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:14 pm

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:14 pm who do we all want My Shell to shoot?

My Shell

What about her claim don't you believe?

The claim

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:14 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:11 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:05 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:54 pm Martin who will you suspect if I am town?

Idk. You?

Well you better start thinking soon because I am.

Currently I think I suspect Maid the most, followed by PSP, followed by you. After some re-reads especially of your long explanation post and the stubborn way you have attacked me, it feels slightly town, not enough to clear you but enough to put you above the other two.

Maid and TopShelfProduct are my two strongest townreads coming out of my adventure last night.

Clarification: I don’t mean that they are my strongest town reads in the game. Just that their responses to my silliness last night felt the most like what I would expect from townies.

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:14 pm who do we all want My Shell to shoot?

My Shell

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:11 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:05 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:54 pm Martin who will you suspect if I am town?

Idk. You?

Well you better start thinking soon because I am.

Currently I think I suspect Maid the most, followed by PSP, followed by you. After some re-reads especially of your long explanation post and the stubborn way you have attacked me, it feels slightly town, not enough to clear you but enough to put you above the other two.

Maid and TopShelfProduct are my two strongest townreads coming out of my adventure last night.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:54 pm Martin who will you suspect if I am town?

Idk. You?

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:49 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:46 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:19 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:12 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:06 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:58 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:56 pm

Martin and you voted me, and it was bad reasoning. I am not over explaining anything, I am pointing out that the pattern of suspicion on me is similar to the patterns used to save nutella on previous days.

No it's not, proof is the wagon vanished.

Only after other players intervened to get the wagon back on track by repeating that we should chop nutella.

Who intervened? Who are the other players?

My Shell and Fuskdall did.

I changed my vote back to nutellaphant of my own accord after going into more detail about why I suspect you. No one voiced disagreement or talked to me about nutellaphant in between. What do you mean when you say these two “intervened”?

Fuskdall wrote that they thought nutella had to be the chop no matter what today, and you and Maid switched back soon after.

I assure you that had no bearing on my vote whatsoever and hardly even registered as a thing at all. I’m only aware of it in that fuskdall celebrated our mindmeld over it because I said basically the same thing around the same time.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:19 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:12 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:06 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:58 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:56 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:54 pm You say you are voted for bad reasond, except you are not voted and you're playing with words Quokka, and you are over explaining simple things.

My Poe is Akemi and Quokka.
Depending on the flip, may be +1, but Nutphant showed a big scum equity for me

Martin and you voted me, and it was bad reasoning. I am not over explaining anything, I am pointing out that the pattern of suspicion on me is similar to the patterns used to save nutella on previous days.

No it's not, proof is the wagon vanished.

Only after other players intervened to get the wagon back on track by repeating that we should chop nutella.

Who intervened? Who are the other players?

My Shell and Fuskdall did.

I changed my vote back to nutellaphant of my own accord after going into more detail about why I suspect you. No one voiced disagreement or talked to me about nutellaphant in between. What do you mean when you say these two “intervened”?

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:26 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:25 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:24 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:19 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:16 pm

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:01 pm Would anyone in the game like to express a uniform hatred of flash wagons and EID chaos?

No, I am a fan of CFDs. Chaos in the form of switching wagons as much as possible in a rush of an Eod is making mafia unsure and reveals things that otherwise are hidden.

Usually I would agree but they have been anti-town this game.

Just because Boy flipped town doesn't mean the CFD was anitown.
Do you think mafia made the CFD?

Yes. The thread was dead until I came in and then there was suddenly a flurry of activity.

Maybe the activity was not because of your presence, but because Eod was near.

I made this point as well and think it is very very evident and obvious. So I’m confused that Quokka has repeatedly tried to take credit for something that happens all the time in every game.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:06 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:58 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:56 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:54 pm You say you are voted for bad reasond, except you are not voted and you're playing with words Quokka, and you are over explaining simple things.

My Poe is Akemi and Quokka.
Depending on the flip, may be +1, but Nutphant showed a big scum equity for me

Martin and you voted me, and it was bad reasoning. I am not over explaining anything, I am pointing out that the pattern of suspicion on me is similar to the patterns used to save nutella on previous days.

No it's not, proof is the wagon vanished.

Only after other players intervened to get the wagon back on track by repeating that we should chop nutella.

I intervened in my own push against you?

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:43 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:42 pm Quokka seems to be operating in an impossible POE from my perspective. That would be suspicious on its own even if I didn’t find their attitude toward me suspect as well.

ofc you would claim it is impossible when you are in it

I mean, yeah. That’s exactly my point.

Quokka seems to be operating in an impossible POE from my perspective. That would be suspicious on its own even if I didn’t find their attitude toward me suspect as well.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:33 pm

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:32 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:31 pm [VOTE: nutellaphant] aubergine

I am back and I will move my vote back onto nutellaphant.

Martin you are twisting my words again. You clearly said that I didn't give a read on you, but my post was obviously a read and you are splitting hairs by saying there's a difference between calling you POE and calling you mafia, when my post had reasons to scumread you. It clearly showed a picture of you as mafia. I think my POE can easily be right.

Do you believe that your POE can easily be right? Your poe includes nutella, right? and then those three?

Yes. Made has trended down for me as well, but I think the solve can be for example nutella, Martin and PonyStarkPrime. I don't see why that can't be the mafia team and I dislike that Martin is trying to push me off it by ridicule.

What is this hypothetical team’s strategy? Both today and on previous days?

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:30 pm

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:27 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:26 pm [VOTE: nutellaphant] aubergine to resolve that problem once and for all. Threadstate feels like they’re mafia and the team has decided to distance.

Quokka is my first guess for a partner if this vote is correct.

VILLAGERY MIND MELD

Why the caps?

TO EXPRESS ENTHUSIASM

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:26 pm

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:21 pm

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:19 pm

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:17 pm

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:16 pm

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:14 pm I don't remember anything from Pony really. Only that Fusk seems to think it's Sloonei, but I saw a very non-sloonei-esque joke by them today, so I'm gonna veto that idea.

It's definitely not sloonei

Martin was my other Sloonei guess, but that's off the table too.

I miss knowing where Sloonei is. I just miss Sloonei.

I had Martin as Sloonei on day 1, and when I said that I thought Sloonei was a wolf, this was what I had in mind. But I think I know who Sloonei is in any case.

When I live-time solve with you, I think you're town.

When I don't see you in the thread, I default on you being wolf.

Who's your POE?

Martin's right that I'm frustrated, and it's because we have to chop Nutella today and I don't care to change it. Game state reasons are significant enough: I've seen enough saves in my life to categorize what happened to Nutella as such. I can't really reevaluate on that. If it will help Martin out, I'll make the full case.

After that I think Marmot is fairly obvious scum, but I'd reevaluate should we come to F7. But let's hold off on that for just a second.

I don’t remember saying you’re frustrated. I remember asking why you didn’t talk to me during my weirdness phase.

[VOTE: nutellaphant] aubergine to resolve that problem once and for all. Threadstate feels like they’re mafia and the team has decided to distance.

Quokka is my first guess for a partner if this vote is correct.

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:19 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:14 pm In fact, when I saw Quokka's POE for the first time last night, my immediate impression was that they were mafia. It necessitated that the mafia team outside of nutella must be in me/fuskdall/TopSecretPortfolio, and that almost certainly isn't right. Does anyone think that POE has a chance of being correct?

of course no, i'm a townboi

Agreed

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:00 pm If wolf team is elephant quokka pony would be cute

It’s not

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:26 pm Sir you write too long posts

No.

In fact, when I saw Quokka's POE for the first time last night, my immediate impression was that they were mafia. It necessitated that the mafia team outside of nutella must be in me/fuskdall/TopSecretPortfolio, and that almost certainly isn't right. Does anyone think that POE has a chance of being correct?

A few people made brash assumptions about my motives and intentions when I was being weird, but no one was more aggressive in this than Quokka.

The allegation that I was "twisting their words" was amusing and hyper-defensive from my point of view. I was saying and doing as little as possible, so I couldn't fathom in what way I was twisting any words. I was saying the least amount of words possible by design and letting the rest be filled in around me. I was left with the impression that Quokka was twisting their own words on my behalf. I requested a read from them, and they wrote a relatively meticulously paragraph summarizing several points about me and then mentioned that I am in their POE, but at no point in that paragraph did they explicitly state what they believed my alignment was. The mention of a POE does imply suspicion, but a player can be in the POE without necessarily being read as mafia. That's the nature of a POE list: if everyone in it was mafia then the game would be over. I wanted a read, a clearly defined stance, and Quokka did not supply that right away. They did after I stuck my tongue at them, though. But that's when they started accusing me of twisting their words.

The notion that I was "swinging back and forth wildly and it doesn't make sense" was also funny to me. I don't know what Quokka perceived as my starting or end points from which I was swinging. I also don't know why "swinging back and forth" would be problematic in this instance. And lastly, "it doesn't make any sense" should either be entirely self-evident, or not a concern at all. I am saying as little as possible here, and it should be obvious that I'm doing this by design. So obviously I'm not making sense. I'm not even attempting to make sense. Quokka attacking me on those grounds is like condemning a giraffe for having a long neck. It looked silly, like a player who felt compelled to accuse me of something no matter the circumstances.

The last post in this sequence actually got me to crack a smile. "You are either scum trying to mischop me" and "You are probably mafia trying to push me off nutellaphant here by baiting me into a 1v1 and I won't let you" are both wildly and exuberantly overreaching assumptions about my motives and my gamplay on a very basic level.
If I was "trying to mischop" Quokka here, if that was my specific and intentional goal, I'd take a much easier, much more direct, and much more conventional route. Again, my only goal here was to say as little as possible and let others react and fill in their own gaps. I was letting others play Mafia Mad Libs, I guess. I am saying negative things about Quokka here, but they absolutely do not have the strength necessary to compel a group of people to vote for them. It's downright goofy that they would construe that as any sort of effort to inspire a bandwagon. My behavior is deliberately not motivational. What sane person is going to read this exchange and think "Martin's making some cogent points, I better vote for Quokka"?
"You are probably mafia and trying to push me off nutellaphant" is another wild overreach. I didn't do that. I didn't request that Quokka heighten their suspicion of me. I certainly didn't do anything that would indicate a preference for people not to vote for nutellaphant. All I did was dig back into the thread and offer a couple GTH reads on some posts that stood out to me.
I would also like to point out that both Quokka and nutellaphant responding to my weirdness by accusing me of being partnered with the other and attempting some convoluted form of distancing. Is that a coincidence? Or am I one of the scum team's targeted mis-eliminations today?

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:37 pm After I found out that Martin had a reasoning, I think I can see this as an attempt to solve.

Why did you think I didn't have a reason yesterday?

I'll be disappointed and surprised if both nutellaphant and My Shell are town. I may still even suspect them a little of being teammates.

However, in reviewing the thread last night, and particularly duskfall's posts, I found that there hasn't really been a conclusive argument made against nutellaphant. That's not the most inspiring thing ever. I am not absolving them of suspicion, and still do not like several posts from that slot. But I think we'd all be better off if there was something real there.

Who's got the case?

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:15 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:02 pm I made no assumptions about nutellaphant’s alignment. I just wanted a table of votes that would be easy to read so that I (and maybe anyone else) could better assess the bandwagons to determine whether or not nutellaphant was actually saved, or if they’re just another civilian being piled on.

Results were inconclusive, surprisingly. But it’s still information and we can still make use of it moving forward. It would be cool if people could comment on it now that they can stop worrying about what I’m doing.

its pointless to put yourself in green because other players reading it cannot take for granted that you are town even if you are

It helped me visually

I made no assumptions about nutellaphant’s alignment. I just wanted a table of votes that would be easy to read so that I (and maybe anyone else) could better assess the bandwagons to determine whether or not nutellaphant was actually saved, or if they’re just another civilian being piled on.

Results were inconclusive, surprisingly. But it’s still information and we can still make use of it moving forward. It would be cool if people could comment on it now that they can stop worrying about what I’m doing.

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:49 pm sure, but i want to know are they completely unrelated from the list he made

the alison quote is from Day 1

After charting the votes, I started looking into people I had concerns about. I was not looking for anything in particular. I was just looking.

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:41 pm your exercise looks like you made a list of all players' votes related to voting for nut

you then called two people mafia and one person salad



If those reads are based on the list, I see no correlation, as the players involved are in separate categories.

If those reads are not based on the list, I'm curious, what was the point in the exercise?

I called a post “salad” because it contained a salad. Why would I call an entire person “salad”?

The point of bkth exercises was to help me better understand what has happened in the game so far and also to function as devices for conversation.

Right so I don’t feel like I am close to having anything figured out, and the thread also felt like it was dead and going nowhere, so I decided to just be weird for the night to see what would happen.

Maid tried to engage me and got frustrated and yelled at me. It felt authentic. I called them town.
Quokka instantly started shading me for it and either used it as confirmation bias to strengthen a real and existing scum read on me, or is a wolf who needs me in their POE so they didn’t actually give it any thought and just blanketed me in shade because that’s what the gameplan is.
Fuskdall didn’t really talk to me. At all. Why fuskdall? Why?
My Shell made one post declaring me a suspect. They did not elaborate.
TopSellingPants decided to read motives into my posts that didn’t exist. It feels town.
Nutellaphant acknowledged that my vote counting looked town because they assumed I was assuming a wolf flip from them, but then reverted back to the scum read that has existed on me since they entered the game, now insisting for some reason that Quokka and I are teammates.

I wish fuskdall had engaged with me, but I read them as town otherwise. I’d still like to know why they didn’t.
I think the natural response to my behavior is frustration and confusion. I think it would be possible to interpret my behavior as suspicious, but I also think that that is the conclusion that the mafia team would have to reach. In a sense, I was daring them to do it. I thought My Shell’s response was the weakest in that sense. I did not like it.
Quokka’s makes a bit of sense from a frustrated townie, but I wouldn’t rule them out as a suspect. I’ve had a few other mild pings from them. Those GTH reads I shared in the middle of my one-word post episode were genuine.
I struggle to read TofuStuffingPan because I can’t tell how much of their bluntness is just roleplay, but at some point I need their reads to actually go someplace.
Nutellaphant seemed to take my behavior as confirmation that I’m bad, and on that note I’d like to point out that they still have not explained why my pursuit of them over the last three game phases has been “opportunistic.”

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:30 pm

Spoiler: show

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:25 am

Quokka wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:11 pm This four wagon formation bothers me, I don't have confidence today is a hit either due to that. Between the four I would rather nutellaphant because of yesterday and the fact that their entrance was unreadable. I don't understand why they are suspecting Martin either.

[VOTE: nutellaphant] aubergine

Mafia

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:34 am

Maid wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:06 pm

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:44 pm

nutellaphant wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:43 pm nothing paprika has done today has really swayed me on them either, but I didn't manage to read the last few pages in-depth.

Paprika's eod was fine.

One of you or My Shell was saved yesterday, if you're town, find scum in My Shell.

Is this what I think it is? Because if it is I want to wolf read this mindset.

Maid wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:07 pm [VOTE: Akemi] aubergine

Mafia

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:37 am

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:36 pm I can't guess who's behind Paprika unless it's exactly DrWilgy. Sorry to be antifun.

I can vote My Shell or nutella today. Maybe dodo.

I just realized I scumread the ladies lol

Salad

these reads are so arbitrary based on that list

I missed the part where I said they were “based on that list.”

nutellaphant wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:14 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:15 am

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:03 am Day 1
Boringboi [5]: My Shell, Quokka, PonySparkPrime, Maid, dodo
nutellaphant [5]: Fuskdall, MartinWP69, NurseWilgy, Boringboi, Akemi Homura
dodo [1]: 1337
My Shell [1]: Paprika
NurseWilgy [1]: nutellaphant

Day 2
Paprika [4]: NurseWilgy, 1337, My Shell, nutellaphent
nutellaphant [4]: Akemi Homura, MartinWP69, Fuskdall, Quokka
Akemi Homura [2]: Maid, PonySparkPrime
My Shell [1]: Paprika

Voted for nutellaphant twice:
Fuskdall, Martin, Akemi Homura

Voted for nutellaphent once:
Quokka, NurseWilgy, Boringboi

Voted main counterwagon to nutellaphant twice:
My Shell

Voted main counterwagon to nutellaphant once:
Quokka, PonySparkPrime, Maid, dodo, NurseWilgy, 1337, nutellaphant

Voted away from two main wagons once:
1337, Maid, PonySparkPrime, nutellaphant

Voted away from two main wagons both times:
Paprika

Has not voted for nutellaphant (living players):
1337, Maid, My Shell, [nutellaphant], PonySparkPrime

i like how this looks like you're preflipping me as mafia
i honestly think it's slightly town indicative because mafia would probably have trouble implicitly preflipping someone they know is town as mafia

I an not

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:05 am Interesting exchange, seems likely one mafia in martin/quokka and feel quokka looked more villagery here and martin has been steadily trending down a while.

Why?

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:49 am I just can’t read don’t worry

Read me

Holding...

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:15 am And also that Nutella has one good post all game

How many bad?

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:04 am Whatever you say Martin. I think you are either scum trying to mischop me, or very bad at reading me, and I am getting angry whichever one it is you are so I am leaving. You are probably mafia and trying to push me off nutellaphant here by baiting me into a 1v1 and I won't let you, I will switch back before EOD.

Lol

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:53 am Everything that I listed in there about you were reasons to scumread you except one. Don't twist my words Martin.

Weak.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:54 am [VOTE: MartinWP69] aubergine

Bad.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:51 am

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:49 am

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:48 am I said clearly in there that you are scum, don't twist my words or pretend not to know what I meant.

Said POE. Not a read.

When I say POE, I mean my mafia suspects. This should be clear when I say that some people are town for me and out of POE, and Made who is in between, and there are three people + nutella who I think the wolf team is in.

No.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:49 am

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:47 am

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:45 am Explain your reads on Maid and me, you are swinging back and forth wildly and it doesn't make any sense to me.

Tell me, are you trying to attract a townread for being aggressive and not caring about how you look?

No.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:48 am I said clearly in there that you are scum, don't twist my words or pretend not to know what I meant.

Said POE. Not a read.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:45 am Explain your reads on Maid and me, you are swinging back and forth wildly and it doesn't make any sense to me.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:43 am

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:35 am

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:34 am

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:17 am

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:16 am I really don't understand this exchange between Maid and Martin so I'm just going to write them down as not wolves together :P

[VOTE: Quokka] aubergine

Read me.

You are taking a very bold stance in this game with your one word posts and confrontational attitude. You are in the POE for me because you haven't done anything that allows me to hard townclear you, and I believe your taking three random posts and refusing to explain them but calling them mafia to be salad like you accused Akemi of doing. I townread you early on but it is very difficult to understand your reasoning right now. I think you could be W/W with nutellaphant as well with them attacking you as hard as possible to distance. Counterbalanced against that is the fact that on D1 you tied the vote of nutellaphant and Boringboi when you could have forced Boringboi to be chopped, which is what elevates you above PSP in my POE.

Many words.

No read.