The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:12 pm Just gonna throw this out there as I'm still reading up from 15 pages ago, the fact that Sloonei and I are still both alive at the same time would indicate to me that one of us was saved during the blamberfuckfest day 1.

I basically stopped talking after this post because it was completely on the money and any point I tried to raise against it would just look silly.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:03 pm I hate this game

The curse is real and I wish I knew why.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:15 pm If someone who is here, if that is the case, could talk to me about things that would be great.

I think “case” against me is that I’m still alive and nothing else is going on. Today has been a stagnant phase. I have contributed to that stagnation.

I didn’t love a couple points in soneji’s big catch up post, but now I’m voting primarily out of self-preservation. His arguments against me and for scirrus were the points I did not like, if you want to check it out.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:54 pm @Sloonei you got a role or something? claims can happen right

No

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:42 pm sloonei you here? wanna... talk ;______;

Kinda. Whatcha got for me?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:39 pm ... well... ok i guess sloonei's okay. but dadv? like what's happening here

Dadv?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:49 pm will chopping sloonei bring joy?

Not really, no.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:22 pm where is everyone though

Trump Tower, by the looks of it.

Soneji wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:19 pm Scirrus had great threadflow throughout d1, a consistent presence in discussion that didn't seem to have any wolfy motives at all. Uncertain about things at times, but never hedgy/fence sitting. Has solid reads/progressions throughout.

Soneji places Wilgy in Scirrus in his top tier of town reads. I appreciate the work he put into showing his reads, for the most part. But scirrus, a popular suspect and new player, got only these three sentences as a summary. This read feels like it's just slapped in there for the sake of existing, relative to all the others. [mention]Soneji[/mention] if you are around and able to, please talk some more about this read came to exist. Because right now I'm skeptical.

Day 3 is brought to you by the letter S.

[VOTE: soneji] aubergine

#omgus

My response(s) to Epi were specifically and exactly responses to Epi. We’ve been playing mafia together consistently for several years and he has one of the most distinct playstyles I’ve come across. I treat him accordingly. That means I generally don’t assess his early reads on the basis of how much I believe he believes in them. Instead I try to see what his angle is in pushing those reads. I believed that he was exaggerating his stance on me Day 1 to help advance his overall view of the game.

You’re also completely mischaracterizing my Day 1. I made a couple of jokes early on, then played the game for a while, then needed to take action to avoid being killed on Day 1. I didn’t perk up at the sight of a viable alternative. That is bullshit.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm I do not have any reason to to suspect MP at this time.
Naww Sloonei reverted to his usual self when Mac started Maccing. I like this. You can be town.
Sloonbot activated
Also wtf dude you literally agreed you (at least briefly) were playing like your normal self, but when I say I TR you for doing sloonei things it’s wrong?

Fuck outta here
Maybe I just have low self-esteem. But I don't feel like I'm doing Sloonei things right now. Or maybe I am. Maybe giving shit to somebody for town-reading me when I'm the leading wagon on Day 3 is a Sloonei thing to do. I dunno. Would nanook bother faking a town read on me at this stage if he was bad?
Sure, why not, especially if you are getting lynched anyway?

Because it's not a foregone conclusion by any stretch, and nanook's style lends itself to votes that don't always require justification. If he wanted to throw a vote on my pile to nudge things closer, he could. Instead he's coming out early in my defense.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm I do not have any reason to to suspect MP at this time.
Naww Sloonei reverted to his usual self when Mac started Maccing. I like this. You can be town.
Sloonbot activated
Also wtf dude you literally agreed you (at least briefly) were playing like your normal self, but when I say I TR you for doing sloonei things it’s wrong?

Fuck outta here

Maybe I just have low self-esteem. But I don't feel like I'm doing Sloonei things right now. Or maybe I am. Maybe giving shit to somebody for town-reading me when I'm the leading wagon on Day 3 is a Sloonei thing to do. I dunno. Would nanook bother faking a town read on me at this stage if he was bad?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:49 pm scirrus is legit caught guys. of sloonei and mp, i'd say sloonei has more reason to be afraid of epi tbh. so yeah maybe sloonei's scum too. i wanna see how sloonei tries this phase tbh and i'll see if i wanna vote there

but.

scirrus.

is scum.

scirrus ALWAYS nks epi there. not that that's strong evidence-- moreso supplemental-- but look at that EOD.

I have nothing to say about Epi's death. Maybe he was killed to frame me or somebody else. Maybe he was killed because he's Epi. Idk. Night kill analysis is not my thing.

I'm also curious to see how much I'll try this phase. I'll probably continue to do what I've been doing, if I had to guess. Why is scirrus bad? Gimme the bullet points if you have to.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:43 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:38 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine
I don't really have a handle on where I stand in this game, so I'll sheep you today.

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine
That’s a weird thing to do. Why are you doing it?
I feel a little disengaged and I don't know who I want to vote for, just some people I don't want to vote for.
I take it that means I’m on the “don’t want to vote for” list. Why?
You're not on that list.

Then why am I your shepherd, my child?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:43 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:38 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine
I don't really have a handle on where I stand in this game, so I'll sheep you today.

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine
That’s a weird thing to do. Why are you doing it?
I feel a little disengaged and I don't know who I want to vote for, just some people I don't want to vote for.

I take it that means I’m on the “don’t want to vote for” list. Why?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:38 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine
I don't really have a handle on where I stand in this game, so I'll sheep you today.

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

That’s a weird thing to do. Why are you doing it?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:32 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:02 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:46 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:24 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:21 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:23 pm MP is here to make civilian lynches happen.

Sloonei is here to make civilian lynches happen.

Keep that in mind.
Let's just do what he says for a change.
Agreed. It wasn't time for a wifom kill.
We have pages of content to base reads on, and you want to use NKA?
Sorta.
Do you want to talk to me about anything? I feel like I don't really know where your head is at much.

Do you have any specific questions for 112?

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:53 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:08 pm Sloonei is likely just town guys
Explain.
He’s doing sloonei things

No I’m not.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:46 pm Scirrus is a problem for another day imo

Expand on this

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:47 pm [VOTE: SPRITYO] aubergine

Ditto

I will move to sprityo to ensure no shenanigans occur if necessary

Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:41 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:36 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:34 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:12 pm

Why are you voting there then?

Who is red for you?
You’ll get there eventually
Do you think it will be harder for you going forward to read me than others? Is that why you decided to park your vote on me?
No. And my vote is not parked. My vote is never parked.

I see you’ve voted for soneji. Walk me through that decision, if you could.
They have posted nothing at all and are a hinderence to town for doing so? I don't think they're a bad lynch at all. If they have a penchant for posting more as scum then feel free to tell me
I don’t have any such meta read on my name neighbor. But we did just lynch him in FTL, in part because he was similarly silent. He is just absent, I believe.

Why wilgy?
Because I had him in my POE and MPlus suggested Wilgy/sprityo wagons and I thought it wasn't a bad idea? like it was 10 minutes ago? Why are you asking me these questions? Do you have any thoughts on literally anyone else?

I an asking these questions so I can develop my read on you.

This answer doesn’t tell me what wilgy has done that makes him suspicious to you.

But we’re also closing in on the deadline so I’m not sure how productive this is right now

Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:36 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:34 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:55 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:47 pm Sloonei do you suspect me or not? I don't think you've given a clear stance on me yet

Who would you most like to lynch right now?
I do not have a town read on you. If I were to make a rainbow list you’d be a light shade of orange. To be clear, this is closer to an absence of a town read than a direct scum read.

This is our first game together and I’m not putting in nearly the amount of work I normally would to developing my reads, so I don’t have a firm stance. Likewise I do not have a clear lynch priority at this point. There are several town reads and a handful of players who are distinctly not town reads.
Why are you voting there then?

Who is red for you?
You’ll get there eventually
Do you think it will be harder for you going forward to read me than others? Is that why you decided to park your vote on me?
No. And my vote is not parked. My vote is never parked.

I see you’ve voted for soneji. Walk me through that decision, if you could.
They have posted nothing at all and are a hinderence to town for doing so? I don't think they're a bad lynch at all. If they have a penchant for posting more as scum then feel free to tell me

I don’t have any such meta read on my name neighbor. But we did just lynch him in FTL, in part because he was similarly silent. He is just absent, I believe.

Why wilgy?

Never mind, scirrus is on wilgy now. What’s that about as well?

Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:55 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:47 pm Sloonei do you suspect me or not? I don't think you've given a clear stance on me yet

Who would you most like to lynch right now?
I do not have a town read on you. If I were to make a rainbow list you’d be a light shade of orange. To be clear, this is closer to an absence of a town read than a direct scum read.

This is our first game together and I’m not putting in nearly the amount of work I normally would to developing my reads, so I don’t have a firm stance. Likewise I do not have a clear lynch priority at this point. There are several town reads and a handful of players who are distinctly not town reads.
Why are you voting there then?

Who is red for you?
You’ll get there eventually
Do you think it will be harder for you going forward to read me than others? Is that why you decided to park your vote on me?

No. And my vote is not parked. My vote is never parked.

I see you’ve voted for soneji. Walk me through that decision, if you could.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:55 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:47 pm Sloonei do you suspect me or not? I don't think you've given a clear stance on me yet

Who would you most like to lynch right now?
I do not have a town read on you. If I were to make a rainbow list you’d be a light shade of orange. To be clear, this is closer to an absence of a town read than a direct scum read.

This is our first game together and I’m not putting in nearly the amount of work I normally would to developing my reads, so I don’t have a firm stance. Likewise I do not have a clear lynch priority at this point. There are several town reads and a handful of players who are distinctly not town reads.
Why are you voting there then?

Who is red for you?

You’ll get there eventually

Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:22 pm This wagon is bad you should all feel bad

Convince me. Vote for someone.

I voted for scirrus. I’ll probably be around for the deadline, but i’m gonna be in and out for a while.

Scirrus and sprityo/juliets are the closest thing i’ve got to tangible suspects at this point, and three of my strongest town reads are voting for scirrus at the moment.

What has happened to wilgy?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:05 pm My biggest hangup when it comes to @Scirrus is that a lot of his posts in this game so far seem to be a little complacent. That may not be the best word for what I’m feeling. There seems to be a direction in his posts, but that direction isn’t really moving the needle as much as I would like it to, as though he’s holding something back, trying to maintain the status quo or whatever.

This could be an unfair observation. He’s in a new environment and we (I) in turn don’t know anything about him besides what he’s putting into this thread. It’s not easy to plow through a thread full of noisy players who you’ve never met before. But at any rate, I cannot comfortably call him a town read at the moment. He is certainly putting in effort, and I want that to continue.
i feel this too but at the same time they haven't done anything blatantly anti-town, you know?

Yes, precisely. I guess maybe I feel like Scirrus is playing mafia-by-the-numbers.

But again, I have not read everything in this thread.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:51 pm I honestly don't know why I feel so good about Mac but I do

I’ve been playing mafia with mac for 100 years and still don’t know how to read him.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:39 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:36 pm Maybe i am barking up the wrong tree

BUT THEN WHO
Who’s the person you feel the most uncertain about in this game, or have paid the least attention to?
Let me think

I have no opinion on spirityo and honestly I should ISO them bc I don't remember any of their posts lol. Juilets I had as town but a lot of that was people's meta on her. Bad, I know.
Soneji it's hard to be certain as well. Honestly could lynch him on principle of not being useful

112 I feel null and need to pay more attention too. I think the reasons people were pushing her were weak tho

Wilgy is up in the air, had it in my mind that he could be a likely wolf if MP is town, but honestly? I don't think they are wolf/wolf if that means anything

TSP's posts I find hard to read into, i'm not sure about them being scummy anymore tho

Spirit/Soneji/112/TSP/Wilgy in that order maybe?

I feel good about: Epi, LC, Mac, Funnygurl seems alright? I feel good about you now too. Same with Nanook although I think we're pretty different in mafia style/philosophy lol

MPlus i've paid a lot of attention to

Dizzy idc about

Of the people you just named, are there any posts or points about them that stand out to you as suspicious? Or could you identify anything worthy of suspicion?

Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:36 pm Maybe i am barking up the wrong tree

BUT THEN WHO

Who’s the person you feel the most uncertain about in this game, or have paid the least attention to?

Civilians, especially the vocal leader-types, should have agendas and they should be opportunistic. When you assume that role, you need to make things happen. You do that by responding to things and making people react and explain their reactions.

My biggest hangup when it comes to [mention]Scirrus[/mention] is that a lot of his posts in this game so far seem to be a little complacent. That may not be the best word for what I’m feeling. There seems to be a direction in his posts, but that direction isn’t really moving the needle as much as I would like it to, as though he’s holding something back, trying to maintain the status quo or whatever.

This could be an unfair observation. He’s in a new environment and we (I) in turn don’t know anything about him besides what he’s putting into this thread. It’s not easy to plow through a thread full of noisy players who you’ve never met before. But at any rate, I cannot comfortably call him a town read at the moment. He is certainly putting in effort, and I want that to continue.

Funnygurl is my strongest town read after MP.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:47 pm Sloonei do you suspect me or not? I don't think you've given a clear stance on me yet

Who would you most like to lynch right now?

I do not have a town read on you. If I were to make a rainbow list you’d be a light shade of orange. To be clear, this is closer to an absence of a town read than a direct scum read.

This is our first game together and I’m not putting in nearly the amount of work I normally would to developing my reads, so I don’t have a firm stance. Likewise I do not have a clear lynch priority at this point. There are several town reads and a handful of players who are distinctly not town reads.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:42 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:21 pm Except for Jules I think her slot may actually be scum lol

Sorry sprit maybe you can turn that around
talk to me about juliets, what made you change you mind on her, was it because her lack of inolvement in EOD or something else?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:27 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:22 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:24 pm Are we seriously killing sloonei today? What is this nonsense?
Speak as to why we shouldn't.
He’s sloonei and it’s stupid to kill sloonei D1. Nuff said.
Are No lynches better?
I made it clear I wasn't switching fairly early. I take zero responsibility for the no-kill.

(Also I've already said that sloonei dying would've been better, idk why you're presenting this as if it's some kind of gotcha moment?)
I still think you're town but I just wanna say I don't like this. You have just as much responsibility as the rest of us. You saying "i'm not going switch" doesnt make you any less complicit in what happened, for the record

Am I complicit in the No Lynch?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:34 pm I vote we form a sloonei/MP/Nanook Committee to Kill Someone

Is there a specific Someone you have in mind?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:30 pm Instead it's just, you don't believe a thing I said? Great, I've said almost 300 more, what do you think of THOSE?

Who should be lynched today? There’s no clear direction in the poll right now. Things are wide open and you’ve got a voice here.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:21 pmMP is town.
Why?

#relatable

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:24 pm Anyone who is voting for me I dare you to actually hop into my ENTIRE ISO and then actually explain how you think this play comes from a wolf. Not a "I don't believe you" based on a post or two.

I feel this post in my bones. I’ve wanted to shout these words out at least a dozen times in past games.

Apologetic for what? at scirrus

MP is town.

Funnygurl has the distinct idgaf attitude that I town-read her for in Assassin’s Creed.

Boo is done fixing the problem that caused the display settings to change. If you’re still stuck on the prosilver display, you can go back to black by following these instructions:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:55 amYou should hopefully be able to change it back to Black by going to the User control panel -> Board preferences -> Edit global settings -> My board style, select Black from the drop down menu.

bah. The game stipulates that I can't edit posts but that's just me making an administrative announcement, but i gotsta follow them rules. G-man outranks me here, as we've already seen.

Update: Boo is just working to fix another issue that popped up today, and the prosilver background is less of technical headache for that. So it's under control, I suppose. Apologies for the inconvenience/blinding white light.

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