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Oh wait I mean maybe I was blocked
No i'm not, false narrative pushed by dumb joke D0.Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:20 pm I gotta work now.
Let’s kill Sig, he’s been outed scum since day 1.
Agreed especially re Marmot, wanted to throw the Dolby thing out, but they've been a low level town read of mine for awhile so I'd not wanna vote them unless people agree it's a likely move for them meta wise.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:30 pm I'm honestly not a fan of just assuming Dolby and Marmot are scum who bussed using their role.
If they live a long time, OK maybe, but for now I want to steer clear of them.
Also we've got two medics, two role redirectors, and as he said another watcher.Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:29 pmjack was also a town watcher...Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:58 pm If Marmot survives another night then we'll have to chop him because it is strange that the confirmed townie is not getting killed, a "confirmed" townie who happens to be the bloody town watcher. That never happens
So my only thought here is night actions either totally green clears dolby or probably makes him solid mafia.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:21 pmSig - Medic (Doctor)MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:16 pm What are the living claims? We force mass claim today and kill everything bogus.
Dolby - Demoman (Roleblocker) - blocked Nanook N2
TSP - Sniper (Vig)
LC - Demoman (Roleblocker)
Marmot - Soldier (Watcher) - Saw Mafia Kill N1
Wiggly - Pyro (Redirector)
Martin - Engineer (JOAT)
Mac - Heavy (Vote Manipulator)
NNA at one point fake claimed Spy (Vig)
Falcon at one point fake claimed Medic (Doctor)
Non claimers are me, Guillotine, NAA, Falcon.
Of those there are a Pyro, Medic, Heavy, and Spy.
I'd say no, but if he bothers me i'mma call him mafia again just out of spite.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:23 pm@sig so isMac still mafia or nah?sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:00 pmOkay I'm not sure I see it, buuuuuuut not really being series yet.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:47 pmLinearpoint's first post is the sort of first post that I like to make as scum (I always find the first post the hardest, after getting the first post out of the way, it is much easier to continue. Sometimes I even specifically try to "first" specifically to get the first post out of the way), and while this is not scum-indicative necessarily, it is scum-compatible. Then as others have mentioned, sometimes scum likes to mech-talk to hide, and their posts in regards to my team-claim suggestion feel the most likely to be coming from scum trying to look helpful in a mech discussion.
As for Mac, he called me mafia, so he must be mafia.
Mac i'll be able to tell if he's mafia by like day 2/3. Though if i get NK'd before then he 100% should be lynched since always kills me when he's mafia.
I mean I'd disagree since it's me and really i'd stand by my D1 thoughts there. Obviously at this point with multiple flips and some meat I don't have an issue with a town core, but day 1/0 is way to earlyGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:28 pmThis could also be a reason why Dyslexicon died. Scum being afraid of a townie forming town cores. So far Dyslexicon had been right on me and Seanzie.sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:38 pmDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:34 pmI’m not planning to be very active at the start of this.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:07 pmThe fuck is this? Why do you post like you shouldnt be in the towncore of those you townread?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
Thread is quiet and I want the game to have a good start though.
Also, think I’ll exchange my Falcon for Guillo right now.
Sean is town. I know him, this be town.
Tony is town cause I can tell.
Guillo is probably town and Sean thinks so too so that’s good. Work together \o/
Lime is town because he’s cute and also real reasons.
^I think this is a nice town core to start with.
(Dis)agreements?
Does sean usually come out so aggressive in setting out reads? Ik i've played with him before but can't recall much.
Can"t agree on Lime, need some pics first or are we saying like the vibe/profile pic is cute? I could see vibe, but not profile pic. i mean don't get me wrong it isn't bad just not cute ya feel me?
Also as i just previously mentioned disagree re town core this soon, but as long as ppl don't blindly sheep and will move players out of town core, it isn't the end of the world to have one.
Sig showing reluctance to people forming towncore looks like scum being afraid of a leader forming towncore.
Ugh, this is why I hate role madness didn"t even think of thatLinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:12 pm I guess we're also assuming both were not Sniper and Spy kills respectively.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:46 pmNanook yoloing onto his teammate's counterwagon d1 is entirely on brand.
[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine
I wouldn't call you engaging other people with an open question of why doesn't sig have votes really worthy of a mature response.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:38 pmHow is it a lazy approach to push someone with 0 votes when there are 5-3 wagons? The work has yet to start.sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:36 pm1. I mean it's a pretty good argument to make.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:29 pmEvery time I suspect you regardless of your alignment you always make this argument which is always incorrect as I've pushed you as town many times, and been correct many times...sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:19 pmI mean see whenever I do omgus you it's because you're mafia that goes for me, very rarely does town mac try to dumbly vote me off. Now usually it doesn't matter buuuuuut I take great joy at end game/in dead chat, being able to whine and feel vindicated that I was once again right.
I think you are sus. Not being pushed since d1 given your performance here is strongly indicative that you are mafia or the mafia would have tried to push you.
What about pushing you of all people makes me dumb? Where do you get off calling me dumb for daring to push a tepid, omgussy Sig that has been coasting?
2. I wouldn't say I'm being tepid what so ever, I'm making reads when I see them and asking questions. Not my fault more people aren't engaging in my reads and that the thread keeps getting derailed by dumb arguments.
3. On this whole tepid/not doing enough point we are only on D3, and D2 was a total wash, even with that I've still done more than alot of other players so kinda weak to see I'm not doing anything and being tepid.
4. Back to point 3, I don't think I'm coasting at all, I'm posting, giving my thoughts, and staying caught up which is more than some people. So don't really see where this whole coasting thing is coming from.
5. It's dumb since it"s wrong and is a lazy approach. Not really doing any work into it just asking why other people haven't voted for me and helping to set up mafia for an easy vote/mislynch.
Dumb since it's wrong hey. Okay well I'm just gonna go ahead and call everyone sussing me dumb, that is surely a mature way to engage people.
You were on the.... oh wait already said it. I will take credit for having giant brain tyvm.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:35 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine
We should quit these asinine arguments based on NAI/mech fuckery and just kill everyone from the Seanzie wagon day 1 until we hit a wolf. If town saved mafia Sabie over town Seanzie I'll gladly just laugh and move on the next game. This game needs better direction.
Before some giant brain points out I was on that wagon, yes I know, feel free to flip me idc.
OH and alsosig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:36 pm1. I mean it's a pretty good argument to make.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:29 pmEvery time I suspect you regardless of your alignment you always make this argument which is always incorrect as I've pushed you as town many times, and been correct many times...sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:19 pmI mean see whenever I do omgus you it's because you're mafia that goes for me, very rarely does town mac try to dumbly vote me off. Now usually it doesn't matter buuuuuut I take great joy at end game/in dead chat, being able to whine and feel vindicated that I was once again right.
I think you are sus. Not being pushed since d1 given your performance here is strongly indicative that you are mafia or the mafia would have tried to push you.
What about pushing you of all people makes me dumb? Where do you get off calling me dumb for daring to push a tepid, omgussy Sig that has been coasting?
2. I wouldn't say I'm being tepid what so ever, I'm making reads when I see them and asking questions. Not my fault more people aren't engaging in my reads and that the thread keeps getting derailed by dumb arguments.
3. On this whole tepid/not doing enough point we are only on D3, and D2 was a total wash, even with that I've still done more than alot of other players so kinda weak to see I'm not doing anything and being tepid.
4. Back to point 3, I don't think I'm coasting at all, I'm posting, giving my thoughts, and staying caught up which is more than some people. So don't really see where this whole coasting thing is coming from.
5. It's dumb since it"s wrong and is a lazy approach. Not really doing any work into it just asking why other people haven't voted for me and helping to set up mafia for an easy vote/mislynch.
1. I mean it's a pretty good argument to make.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:29 pmEvery time I suspect you regardless of your alignment you always make this argument which is always incorrect as I've pushed you as town many times, and been correct many times...sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:19 pmI mean see whenever I do omgus you it's because you're mafia that goes for me, very rarely does town mac try to dumbly vote me off. Now usually it doesn't matter buuuuuut I take great joy at end game/in dead chat, being able to whine and feel vindicated that I was once again right.
I think you are sus. Not being pushed since d1 given your performance here is strongly indicative that you are mafia or the mafia would have tried to push you.
What about pushing you of all people makes me dumb? Where do you get off calling me dumb for daring to push a tepid, omgussy Sig that has been coasting?
Though pretty sure your town, however If you're not I still want one "I told you so" to everyone.sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:19 pmI mean see whenever I do omgus you it's because you're mafia that goes for me, very rarely does town mac try to dumbly vote me off. Now usually it doesn't matter buuuuuut I take great joy at end game/in dead chat, being able to whine and feel vindicated that I was once again right.
Tin foil theory here, but what if jack is mafia with a mercenary and got their roles confused? Since in theory he could be submitting the roles for the entire team.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:15 pm “Mafia Buffs
Mercenaries who work for the mafia have more advanced equipment that grant them the following bonuses:
- Soldier: Will also learn the target’s class/color when he watches them.”
Well like….whatever. I’m still town.
I mean see whenever I do omgus you it's because you're mafia that goes for me, very rarely does town mac try to dumbly vote me off. Now usually it doesn't matter buuuuuut I take great joy at end game/in dead chat, being able to whine and feel vindicated that I was once again right.
Wait why would you be unblockable?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:03 pmYou’re not letting me off the hook because I post well in a spurt. You’re letting me off the hook because the only reason to suspect me is because you blocked me but if I was a wolf, I’d be unblockable anyway so there’s no reason to suspect me in the first place.
Town
Marmot
Lime
Mac
LP
Guillo
Dolby
Tony
Martin
Wilgy
Sig
Gav
Falcon
Nanook
Wolf
Well, I'll break this down a few ways.Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:45 pmIm gonna pretend i dont scum read you to engage with you. Boom! That read is gone, the tunnel is vanished.sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:41 pmWell I know i'm civ and your reasoning for tunneling on me is god awful. Which imo is usually something mafia are more prone to do D0/1 since it lets them latch onto something, tunnel, do less gameplay wise, and then when someone misflips it's a meh.Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:38 pmSo im townie because i tunneled Sabie but not for low tunneling you? So i cant be scum for hellbussing Sabie for example?sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:31 pm So my biggest issue right now is I don't have any super solid mafia reads.
I'm back and forth on Gullio, his low tunneling on me is a bit scummy and he's not doing much content wise just volume also there's this weird thing with naa which doesn't seem V/V unless I"m missing something? But, he was also pushing sabie for awhile if i recall correctly and Last phase I pegged him as tunneling towny which seems more right.
I think the LC read on jack has some merit, but with the amount of blocks, protects, eCt out there it isn't solid.
I think most likely mafia are laying low, maybe we've got one who voted to save sabie, but doubt it's more than that, and probably one on her wagon? I need to go backk and look at that lay out.
Also beginning to suspect Falcon given his under the radar playstyle and D1 flipflopping vote then avoidance of wagons.
So in theory you could be scum for bussing sabie, but given that it was Day 1, Sabie wasn't outted at that point, and there are only four mafia members hard bussins seems a bit less likely. That isn't to say no mafia members voted for her D1, but voting vs hard pushing is very different.
So I guess you'd be a slight town read? but probably my least confident one.
Sig, why do you think Sabie chose to chop Seanzie instead of chopping Gavial and you who were available wagons at the time?
Since there's literally no reason for sig to have any.
damn should've saidsig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:43 pmfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:42 pmI'm under the radar? You've got fewer than 80 posts, kettle meet pot?sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:31 pm So my biggest issue right now is I don't have any super solid mafia reads.
I'm back and forth on Gullio, his low tunneling on me is a bit scummy and he's not doing much content wise just volume also there's this weird thing with naa which doesn't seem V/V unless I"m missing something? But, he was also pushing sabie for awhile if i recall correctly and Last phase I pegged him as tunneling towny which seems more right.
I think the LC read on jack has some merit, but with the amount of blocks, protects, eCt out there it isn't solid.
I think most likely mafia are laying low, maybe we've got one who voted to save sabie, but doubt it's more than that, and probably one on her wagon? I need to go backk and look at that lay out.
Also beginning to suspect Falcon given his under the radar playstyle and D1 flipflopping vote then avoidance of wagons.
Maybe we're both mafia.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:42 pmI'm under the radar? You've got fewer than 80 posts, kettle meet pot?sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:31 pm So my biggest issue right now is I don't have any super solid mafia reads.
I'm back and forth on Gullio, his low tunneling on me is a bit scummy and he's not doing much content wise just volume also there's this weird thing with naa which doesn't seem V/V unless I"m missing something? But, he was also pushing sabie for awhile if i recall correctly and Last phase I pegged him as tunneling towny which seems more right.
I think the LC read on jack has some merit, but with the amount of blocks, protects, eCt out there it isn't solid.
I think most likely mafia are laying low, maybe we've got one who voted to save sabie, but doubt it's more than that, and probably one on her wagon? I need to go backk and look at that lay out.
Also beginning to suspect Falcon given his under the radar playstyle and D1 flipflopping vote then avoidance of wagons.
Well I know i'm civ and your reasoning for tunneling on me is god awful. Which imo is usually something mafia are more prone to do D0/1 since it lets them latch onto something, tunnel, do less gameplay wise, and then when someone misflips it's a meh.Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:38 pmSo im townie because i tunneled Sabie but not for low tunneling you? So i cant be scum for hellbussing Sabie for example?sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:31 pm So my biggest issue right now is I don't have any super solid mafia reads.
I'm back and forth on Gullio, his low tunneling on me is a bit scummy and he's not doing much content wise just volume also there's this weird thing with naa which doesn't seem V/V unless I"m missing something? But, he was also pushing sabie for awhile if i recall correctly and Last phase I pegged him as tunneling towny which seems more right.
I think the LC read on jack has some merit, but with the amount of blocks, protects, eCt out there it isn't solid.
I think most likely mafia are laying low, maybe we've got one who voted to save sabie, but doubt it's more than that, and probably one on her wagon? I need to go backk and look at that lay out.
Also beginning to suspect Falcon given his under the radar playstyle and D1 flipflopping vote then avoidance of wagons.
You always think this and are wrong, bad mac, bad go to the corner and don't mention sig again unless it's "I've repented and realize sig is 100% town and i'm sorry for vigging him when he's mafia and making mafia kill him whenever he's town"MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:42 am @DrWilgy is probably always mafia here too fwiw.
Also think sig is pretty likely mafia.
Don't like Falcon either.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:55 amNo he isn't. I'm red heavy and used my self save last night. Not to say he's not a wolf but he's not mechanically outed.
smhMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:59 am Fwiw I figured I should use my self save last night because even though I'm getting pushed it's by nobody whose opinion matters and the mafia would know they're not gonna be able to miskill me so I figured I'd be a likely maf kill to attempt to medic dodge. Goes triple if Gavial is mafia.
See, he seems to have the same playstyle I used to have, and still kinda do, as town which is weird tin foil theories. I'm not seeing anything that bad in terms of alignment, just maybe wrong in terms of gameplay.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:52 amDude he's mafia... this is what he does as mafia. He's playing identically to the very last game. Don't be fooled by his postcount. He's just hard-core pro wolf and talking absolute nonsense.
But, realistically in terms of no deaths, it would still equal out at four right?Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:51 am4 if I count medicsGuillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:50 am Sighs* I've never been so useless mechanically wise in a game in my life.
Easy question for mechanic heads. How many roleblockers are supposed to be in a game? because so far I've counted two claims and a retracted roleblocker claim too.
2 assuming optimal play and medics are town
NopeNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:30 pmDid you roleblock me N1?
I think so?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:28 pm So does sniper have to shoot if they aimed the previous night?
Because if so that would mean TSP did aim at Sabie unless they got blocked N2 otherwise TSP would have killed.
Yea agreed, it seems easy to mischop today then waste D3 on them and have no real solving done.
Well Dizzy is dead so pretty sure he's town.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:07 pmSo are they both town? Which one is Maf?sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:40 pmOkay he did vote for me based only really off the fact I civ read Gavial and how i civ read him. Which seems like a bizzare reason to vote someone, but it was day 1 so whatever.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:27 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine
Because he said something I haven't heard town say yet about Gavial's play.
Totally a false narrative to say Dizzy was heavily scum reading me, if anything it was typical probing and searching meaning Gullio is just continuing his bizarre tunneling and now using Dizzy to do so.
Okay he did vote for me based only really off the fact I civ read Gavial and how i civ read him. Which seems like a bizzare reason to vote someone, but it was day 1 so whatever.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:27 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine
Because he said something I haven't heard town say yet about Gavial's play.
This literally, Dizzy may have been pushing a bit (don't even rememebr if he was since that low key) BUT, this entire obsession and low key lying from Guillo is all based off 1 joking post I made Day 0 with Dizzy.Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:48 pmEh.Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:00 pmDisagreed. We honor Dyslexicon legacy read and kill off Sig instead.
Sig isn’t that great of a choice as I feel they have a good amount of town equity.
Plus was it even Dizzy that made that read? Are you absolutely sure you aren’t mixing Dizzy up with Sean?
Willing to enagag any posts I've made or just gonna keep throwing my name out without any reasons?Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:09 amYah, but Sabie and Sig first tbhfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:48 pmI feel I've outlined my feelings on Gav's slot pretty clearly. Do you have a specific question in mind?
I'd put Gav at 72% scum
Also more falsehood I only ever had like what 2 votes? Was never a leading wagon. This is an extreme reachGuillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:10 amShe could have self preserve to Gavial or Sig. Why didnt she?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:50 pm I do want to hear from Tony, Nanook, and Mac at some point as to why the fuck they even voted that.
Dolby was the only one, I think already on Seanzie, Sabie pretty much gets a pass for self preservation interests, and really doubt NAA will ever come in to explain why he did it other than for the lols.
Nope pretty sure the crush is on me tyvm.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:43 pm Does Guillo have a crush on me? Every other post of his seems to be about me and my ability to live in mafia games.
