The Syndicate

Thank you for taking the time to make such a detailed analysis of Kylemii Sloonei.

Can you please explain a potential Mafia motivation in this post?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:20 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:39 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:24 pm If I may make an observation, regarding the setup:

Tevye can get BTSC with his daughters. In doing so, he can confirm them town to himself. So that's neat.

However, if he doesn't search for them, the town gains a cop in the match-maker. Match-maker can search for BTSC, which would (if Tevye doesn't submit actions) only be held by the mafia.

We trade off a BTSC-finder and a town searcher/btsc/lover thing for a cop. Does anyone think this is a good idea?
I... don't agree. Civvie btsc can be an incredibly powerful tool when both players are active, and to enact your plan would mean purposefully not using a doctor, which comes with it's own problems. the matchmakers results should already be helpful so long as that player takes their results with a grain of salt and considers contextual information. it's not worth losing two powerful resources to increase the power of one.

I find it hard to imagine that a Mafia player would even chime in on a subject that is so sensitive, especially with such a perspective... Town points for Kyle.

Group 1 - Give the most credence to these reads.

Speed
Sloonei
Epi
Kylemii
JJJ

Group 2 - Give some credence to these reads.

FZ
Dyslexicon
Nutella

Group 3 - Pay no mind sunshine.

LC
Lorab
Novaselinenever
Dave
Daisy
Wilgy
Marmot

Updated to upgrade Kylemii. I admit I never really had much of a read on him to begin with I was just prodding. Having sat down and read his posts I can't really see much scum motivation.

I think it's time to consider that there are quite a lot of scum in group 3.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:39 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:24 pm If I may make an observation, regarding the setup:

Tevye can get BTSC with his daughters. In doing so, he can confirm them town to himself. So that's neat.

However, if he doesn't search for them, the town gains a cop in the match-maker. Match-maker can search for BTSC, which would (if Tevye doesn't submit actions) only be held by the mafia.

We trade off a BTSC-finder and a town searcher/btsc/lover thing for a cop. Does anyone think this is a good idea?
I... don't agree. Civvie btsc can be an incredibly powerful tool when both players are active, and to enact your plan would mean purposefully not using a doctor, which comes with it's own problems. the matchmakers results should already be helpful so long as that player takes their results with a grain of salt and considers contextual information. it's not worth losing two powerful resources to increase the power of one.

I find it hard to imagine that a Mafia player would even chime in on a subject that is so sensitive, especially with such a perspective... Town points for Kyle.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:15 pm I agree with your green reads Mac, save perhaps LC. I don't have much of a read there. What's your inspiration?

I said pay no mind sunshine. They are more or less all gut reads.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:21 pm New tactic.

I am going to divide the player list into 3. Group 1 are the players who have provided me with ample opportunity to formulate a read. Group 2 have given some. Group 3 might as well be absent for the amount of insight I am able to glean. I will do a rainbow list per group.

Group 1 - Give the most credence to these reads.

Speed
Sloonei
Epi
JJJ

Kylemii

Group 2 - Give some credence to these reads.

FZ
Dyslexicon
Nutella

Group 3 - Pay no mind sunshine.

LC
Lorab
Novaselinenever
Dave
Daisy
Wilgy
Marmot
Updated, I have moved Dizzy to green because Dizzy is everything. Don't lynch Dizzy.

I have changed my mind on Sloonei. He seems civ.

Not seeing Sloonei's barrage of one word posts as Mafia either.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:58 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:34 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:24 pm If I may make an observation, regarding the setup:

Tevye can get BTSC with his daughters. In doing so, he can confirm them town to himself. So that's neat.

However, if he doesn't search for them, the town gains a cop in the match-maker. Match-maker can search for BTSC, which would (if Tevye doesn't submit actions) only be held by the mafia.

We trade off a BTSC-finder and a town searcher/btsc/lover thing for a cop. Does anyone think this is a good idea?

Game with infodumping and role-claiming: cop > probabilistic/interval civilian BTSC inclusive of four

Game without infordumping and role-claiming (like this one):

I'm going to say the cop is slightly weaker in this case. Without reveals, civilian BTSC becomes one of the strongest available roles, because it is easier to read -- it involves two people simultaneously vouching for each other. A cop can only promote reads him or herself, and it might not be as easy for others to figure out that there is an information basis behind those reads.

It's debatable though. speedchuck is a civilian for discovering that this question is worth asking.
He could have conceived of the question pre-game. Null read for me.

I'd probably prefer civ BTSC to an unclaimable cop thing.

First major post scores civ points for disagreeing with Jimmy to simply bring down a civ read to null.

Potential scum motivation - Speedchuck is teammate and it places distance. Speedchuck is civ and it benefits scum Sloonei to keep doubt on speedchuck's alignment in the general consensus.

Reads far more like he is just trying to be a voice of reason.

Not seeing this as a mafia post.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:00 pm I'm going to lodge a veto request of the Epignosis lynch on the following grounds;

a) The primary case against him as been made by JJJ who is the most followable player in the game
b) I don't agree with his arguments
c) If JJJ is Mafia then losing Epignosis's tendency to keep him accountable by revelling in being contrarian feels tantamount to just losing the game
I am considering alternatives. I don't care for many of them. I'm not lynching Kyle. What do you recommend?

Well my rainbow list suggests that aside from Nutella and Kyle the next most viable candidates are you and Sloonei. I would be okay with lynching a group 3 candidate but none of them are even red through ping or gut.

Shall we analyse Sloonei for a change?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:43 pm I have a fairly compelling reason for thinking she is town but it's probably one of those things that is only compelling to me. I don't want to target paint on her if I am wrong and it is genuinely compelling though...

Note: I did say this.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:54 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:33 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:23 pm Mac, why are you so trusting of Epig?

That's better.
I forgot how helpful you could be
This is the word that makes FZ town.
Huh. I... I guess I'll take your word for it.

To me, the comment she made proves that she was actually looking for help. I don't feel like she would have used that word if she was fabricating her play.

I'm going to lodge a veto request of the Epignosis lynch on the following grounds;

a) The primary case against him as been made by JJJ who is the most followable player in the game
b) I don't agree with his arguments
c) If JJJ is Mafia then losing Epignosis's tendency to keep him accountable by revelling in being contrarian feels tantamount to just losing the game

FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:33 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:23 pm Mac, why are you so trusting of Epig?

That's better.
I forgot how helpful you could be

This is the word that makes FZ town.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:34 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:13 pm

ok "green is not a creative color" was just a silly reference to a youtube video. I felt the same way about the list having that much green regardless of who made it, and I must have glossed over it when speed posted it originally.
Does this mean then that your suspicion on this matter is for speedchuck and not for MacDougall?
Sure, but I have already discussed this with speedchuck and more or less resolved the matter. Meanwhile my question about Mac copying the list still stands.

I am not sure how I feel about either of them at the moment.
So when I asked the question the reply is "are you even reading the thread" but when he asks it you provide this level of insight? Interesting.
It was phrased differently. Your question came right after I had realized it was speed's list and I literally said the words "my point still stands" and asked speed about it. After that discussion, Jay asked whether that meant I suspected speed and not you, and I responded that the original point applied to speedchuck but I might also suspect you for another reason.
Fair enough but you came at me relatively gung-ho and you are not coming at him with anything that looks like force to me. That to me looks like you weren't genuine about being suspect of me for the list but just trying to frame a case against me for the purpose of looking like you're trying.

If that's the case though, the question would be why you didn't flip your suspicion to speedchuck with the same level of enthusiasm.
I don't really understand why you're reading a single emoticon as "coming at you gung-ho" or "enthusiasm." I think maybe you are disproportionately reading into it. It's barely a "suspicion" at all -- yes, I used the suspish emoticon, but.. well I don't want to get into an extended discussion of the contextual implications of emoji semantics, but I'm not sure how you're figuring that I was "coming at you gung-ho" based on a single use of an emoticon and no other basis. I posed the original question to speedchuck, and meanwhile was left to wonder why you copied his list.

Please show me where I demonstrated an enthusiastic suspicion of you.

I feel like solitary suspish emoji's are quite strong statements. I use them as such and I react to them as such. Not tantamount to a vote or a wall or something but certainly stronger than what you've demonstrated to speedchuck.

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:20 pm I'm not seeing baddie LA. I also feel like there was quite the bandwagon going on earlier against her, although it seems to have moved off.

I'm going to vote Epi for now. I'm not feeling great and may fall asleep on the keyboard, so want to be sure to not forget to vote. He's really the only one I'm noticing who is playing their baddie game.

I hope you are still awake because I'd really enjoy some elaboration on the first sentence here. The second sentence is a rather mundane observation that doesn't really elaborate on the comment. If you are not seeing baddie nutella, then I imagine you would be able to describe what baddie nutella is to us and then show us in what way she is different now, and would appreciate that.

I have a fairly compelling reason for thinking she is town but it's probably one of those things that is only compelling to me. I don't want to target paint on her if I am wrong and it is genuinely compelling though...

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:40 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:06 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:56 pm Daisy, Dave, Dizzy, FZ, NVN, I have almost no impression at all of any of these players yet
I'm here, I'm trying to catch up but it's not working for me very well.
I'm on page 8 so things can change. At the moment, I find myself agreeing with JJJ on Epi. Something there feels not genuine. I haven't played for a while, but I think civ Epi is more careful, and what he's doing now, is acting like he's going full force after what he believes. Sloonei said he wouldn't be this blunt on day 1, but if people are going to say that, then Epi has no problem acting just like that.

Kyle is really defending himself and making sense, so I do feel better about him. That being said, I like to trust my initial instincts, and even though no one seemed to agree with me, the post I talked about did feel to me like a frustrated baddie who doesn't like the civvies' powers.
This post is the main source of my bad FZ vibes. Not sure if I can really put my finger on it but her catch-up summary/thoughts on Epi and Kyle sound less than genuine. To be fair I haven't played with her in a while so I don't have a good meta reference. Regardless, I'm curious why Mac seems to be near 100% confident that she's town.

This is the type of post that FZ catches heat for in every single game.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:38 pmThanks for the answer. It's WIFOM in the way that if we were to lynch him and then try to analyse that post it's WIFOM.
Only if he flips scum though? Do you happen to know anything about that? This is not a rethorical question, so please answer truthfully.

Well yeah, I was speaking from the perspective of him being scum because I have a scum read on him hence where my vote is.

Dizzy I consider FZ one of my stronger town reads and Nutella is quite a mafia read. You seem to have the inverse perspective. Given I have a town read on you I'd like to try to debate these two players with one another if you don't mind.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:34 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:02 pmLet's lynch Kyle and then be overwhelmed by the wifom of his most recent post for the rest of the game.
What in it is WIFOM to you and why?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:36 pm Had you started that post before or after my gth
I don't know. Didn't read longer than through page 6 before posting. I would make a contribution to the game because I signed up for it though, not because you or anyone else has a gun to your head, if that was what you were thinking. Usually I'm more of a high poster, but time doesn't allow me that this game it seems.

Thanks for the answer. It's WIFOM in the way that if we were to lynch him and then try to analyse that post it's WIFOM.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:10 pm

Are you even reading the thread my dude
That's rich coming from someone who didn't notice that my rainbow was copied from the previous page.

By the way yes. You went from suspish emoji at me when you thought it was my list to questioning his creativity when it's his.
ok "green is not a creative color" was just a silly reference to a youtube video. I felt the same way about the list having that much green regardless of who made it, and I must have glossed over it when speed posted it originally.
Does this mean then that your suspicion on this matter is for speedchuck and not for MacDougall?
Sure, but I have already discussed this with speedchuck and more or less resolved the matter. Meanwhile my question about Mac copying the list still stands.

I am not sure how I feel about either of them at the moment.
So when I asked the question the reply is "are you even reading the thread" but when he asks it you provide this level of insight? Interesting.
It was phrased differently. Your question came right after I had realized it was speed's list and I literally said the words "my point still stands" and asked speed about it. After that discussion, Jay asked whether that meant I suspected speed and not you, and I responded that the original point applied to speedchuck but I might also suspect you for another reason.

Fair enough but you came at me relatively gung-ho and you are not coming at him with anything that looks like force to me. That to me looks like you weren't genuine about being suspect of me for the list but just trying to frame a case against me for the purpose of looking like you're trying.

If that's the case though, the question would be why you didn't flip your suspicion to speedchuck with the same level of enthusiasm.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:12 pmThat's rich coming from someone who didn't notice that my rainbow was copied from the previous page.
"wow, i can't believe you actually really believed i was telling the truth while i was obviously being purposefully deceptive for a weird joke"

I didn't post the rainbow list to make a joke. I posted the rainbow list to determine the level to which people were paying attention to see if I could analyse any level of collusion.

So is it genuinely in Epignosis's MO as Mafia to go after Jimmy on day 1 and put himself at risk like this?

He is now leading the votes. I don't like it. It looks like a potential mislynch to me. I am getting nam flashbacks to MK.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:21 pm New tactic.

I am going to divide the player list into 3. Group 1 are the players who have provided me with ample opportunity to formulate a read. Group 2 have given some. Group 3 might as well be absent for the amount of insight I am able to glean. I will do a rainbow list per group.

Group 1 - Give the most credence to these reads.

Speed
Epi
JJJ
Sloonei
Kylemii

Group 2 - Give some credence to these reads.

FZ
Dyslexicon
Nutella

Group 3 - Pay no mind sunshine.

LC
Lorab
Novaselinenever
Dave
Daisy
Wilgy
Marmot

Outcomes - For me personally, a Kylemii lynch is most suitable for a variety of reasons. As far as the players that I am reading negatively he has given me the most the work with, which should lend credibility to the read. Furthermore the removal of a player from group 1 would offer more impact on the overall picture of my reads than someone from either group 2 or group 3.

I would also would be reasonably happy with a Nutella lynch. I wouldn't be upset by the lynch of anybody else aside from FZ and Speedchuck.
I like this method of organization.

Several of my reads are pretty much opposite from yours. I'm most curious as to why you are so confident about FZ. I got bad vibes from her.

I'd rather not defend her unless she is at risk.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:21 pm New tactic.

I am going to divide the player list into 3. Group 1 are the players who have provided me with ample opportunity to formulate a read. Group 2 have given some. Group 3 might as well be absent for the amount of insight I am able to glean. I will do a rainbow list per group.

Group 1 - Give the most credence to these reads.

Speed
Epi
JJJ
Sloonei
Kylemii

Group 2 - Give some credence to these reads.

FZ
Dyslexicon
Nutella

Group 3 - Pay no mind sunshine.

LC
Lorab
Novaselinenever
Dave
Daisy
Wilgy
Marmot

Updated, I have moved Dizzy to green because Dizzy is everything. Don't lynch Dizzy.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:08 pm Hey nutella is it still suspicious now that you know it's speedchuck's list or were you just pretending you found it suspicious so you can post an emoji at me?
Are you even reading the thread my dude
That's rich coming from someone who didn't notice that my rainbow was copied from the previous page.

By the way yes. You went from suspish emoji at me when you thought it was my list to questioning his creativity when it's his.
ok "green is not a creative color" was just a silly reference to a youtube video. I felt the same way about the list having that much green regardless of who made it, and I must have glossed over it when speed posted it originally.
Does this mean then that your suspicion on this matter is for speedchuck and not for MacDougall?
Sure, but I have already discussed this with speedchuck and more or less resolved the matter. Meanwhile my question about Mac copying the list still stands.

I am not sure how I feel about either of them at the moment.

So when I asked the question the reply is "are you even reading the thread" but when he asks it you provide this level of insight? Interesting.

New tactic.

I am going to divide the player list into 3. Group 1 are the players who have provided me with ample opportunity to formulate a read. Group 2 have given some. Group 3 might as well be absent for the amount of insight I am able to glean. I will do a rainbow list per group.

Group 1 - Give the most credence to these reads.

Speed
Epi
JJJ
Sloonei
Kylemii

Group 2 - Give some credence to these reads.

FZ
Dyslexicon
Nutella

Group 3 - Pay no mind sunshine.

LC
Lorab
Novaselinenever
Dave
Daisy
Wilgy
Marmot

Outcomes - For me personally, a Kylemii lynch is most suitable for a variety of reasons. As far as the players that I am reading negatively he has given me the most the work with, which should lend credibility to the read. Furthermore the removal of a player from group 1 would offer more impact on the overall picture of my reads than someone from either group 2 or group 3.

I would also would be reasonably happy with a Nutella lynch. I wouldn't be upset by the lynch of anybody else aside from FZ and Speedchuck.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:11 pm But also why did you copy speed's rainbow I don't get the joke

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:08 pm Hey nutella is it still suspicious now that you know it's speedchuck's list or were you just pretending you found it suspicious so you can post an emoji at me?
Are you even reading the thread my dude

That's rich coming from someone who didn't notice that my rainbow was copied from the previous page.

By the way yes. You went from suspish emoji at me when you thought it was my list to questioning his creativity when it's his.

Hey nutella is it still suspicious now that you know it's speedchuck's list or were you just pretending you found it suspicious so you can post an emoji at me?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:20 pm Speed
Mac
Wilgy
Epi
JJJ
Marmot
Sloonei
Dyslexicon
LC
Kylemii
FZ
Novaselinenever
Dave
Daisy
Lorab
Nutella

My rainbow
This is very green-heavy.

Cool.

FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:39 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:33 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:23 pm Mac, why are you so trusting of Epig?

That's better.
I forgot how helpful you could be
I don't trust him.
So why did you put him in green in your rainbow?

FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:33 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:23 pm Mac, why are you so trusting of Epig?

That's better.
I forgot how helpful you could be

I don't trust him.

Had you started that post before or after my gth

FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:23 pm Mac, why are you so trusting of Epig?

That's better.

Oops wrong emoji

FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:23 pm Mac, why are you so trusting of Epig?

I vote anyone but Dave and speedy.

Speed
Mac
Wilgy
Epi
JJJ
Marmot
Sloonei
Dyslexicon
LC
Kylemii
FZ
Novaselinenever
Dave
Daisy
Lorab
Nutella

My rainbow

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:15 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:11 pm We should lynch Kyle everybody. Definitely. He is a mafia.
Why?
You appear to not need convincing to vote for him so weird question there Sloonster. Tell me why you're voting for him and I will agree.
You'll agree with anything I say? I think Kyle is a crab person here to corrupt all our lives through mafia games. The sooner we're rid of him, the sooner we can propser.

I asked you why because I wanted to know what motivated your comment.

Compelling case. I agree.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:16 pm Jimmy is scum plz

So civ.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:13 pm I can't iso so you'll just have to trust me.
Maybe describe it in a sentence. I don't need no stinkin' references.

Hot cake moonlight pilgrim yoho diablo.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:04 pm Speedchuck in the interest of developing a read on you could you opine on the strangeways the Jay and Epi situation unfolded from the perspective of either being Mafia? It'll be fun.
I'm not around that much right now, so no. I could not.

Besides, I'm not on the poll, so you don't have to worry about me today.

linki: in Macdougall we trust
@DrWilgy if I followed Mac onto Kylemii would you follow me

linkilinkilinki I don't have time for this crap

Can you make a post that says Jimmy is scum plz?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:11 pm We should lynch Kyle everybody. Definitely. He is a mafia.
Why?

You appear to not need convincing to vote for him so weird question there Sloonster. Tell me why you're voting for him and I will agree.

I can't iso so you'll just have to trust me.

We should lynch Kyle everybody. Definitely. He is a mafia.

FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:08 pm Why did Nutella get 2 votes?

Did wilgy actually post something with content?

Nutella made a post siding with Jay and Epi made a snap decision to vote for her which led to others following the ringleader including ironically for a time Jay but as they are want to do they have found another shiny object to chase meow.

Wilgy asked if we would like him to be scum.

FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:06 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:56 pm Daisy, Dave, Dizzy, FZ, NVN, I have almost no impression at all of any of these players yet
I'm here, I'm trying to catch up but it's not working for me very well.
I'm on page 8 so things can change. At the moment, I find myself agreeing with JJJ on Epi. Something there feels not genuine. I haven't played for a while, but I think civ Epi is more careful, and what he's doing now, is acting like he's going full force after what he believes. Sloonei said he wouldn't be this blunt on day 1, but if people are going to say that, then Epi has no problem acting just like that.

Kyle is really defending himself and making sense, so I do feel better about him. That being said, I like to trust my initial instincts, and even though no one seemed to agree with me, the post I talked about did feel to me like a frustrated baddie who doesn't like the civvies' powers.

No don't stop now. Kyle is bad and we should lynch him.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:59 pm Gth Daisy and Dizzy are scum.
Why those two and not the other low-content folks?

Because I can't think of a single post from those other low content folks to even have a gut read.

Insert Matt Berry screaming "father" mp4 but change father to Long Con.

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