The Syndicate

I blame Marmot

This was a great game befitting champs.

That was a very very strong mafia rand and the mod squad was pretty scary on paper too.

Town were amazing here. I'm happy with that.

Dizzy ... unreal.

SVS you're still goated.

Alison ya snowed the fuck out of me and if not for sig killing you due to being a town threat (you'll never convince me otherwise nerd) I'd probably have ended up just your puppet.

Golden it was great to town it up with ye.

Tutuu it's lovely to have you back.

Thank you to everyone who tolerated my overbearing up and down game. I had a lot of fun.

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:37 am Oops

your secret still safe with me lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:06 am Mafia chat: https://discord.gg/RP6tNes2SV
Mod Squad chat: https://discord.gg/RP6tNes2SV
Party crashers chat: https://discord.gg/nsBSwefqVj
DnD chat: https://discord.gg/ehYhfKvPC9

The rest of the hoods and spec chats are in the hub server https://discord.gg/fHWwqhRnX6

ms links to soup mafia

Anyway I dwelled on it and have decided not to weathervane. Lily is a good choice.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:33 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:32 pm That's exactly the kind of convo I engage in with teamies to make it seem like we aren't paired.
Lilypetal isn't you.
I don't think I'm talking about some unique golden behaviour here, I think it's a universal approach to appearing town as wolf.

It is more of a comment on that I wouldn't apply that read to you. So you saying you'd do it doesn't persuade me because while you might I'm not sure Lily would. She initiated the dance so to speak on shading Sabi in the interaction.

Maybe we just kill Sloonei here.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:48 pm I shot Sabi. No regrets.

@Neon why would you say No regrets here?

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:32 pm That's exactly the kind of convo I engage in with teamies to make it seem like we aren't paired.

Lilypetal isn't you.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm i used my once a game night action on sabi but they were shot by someone else

so so so so so sad

Once a game night action she proceeded to then use on Wilgy tho.

Hmmm.

I guess this could just be lying to the wolves.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:21 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:19 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:17 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:48 am Porscha could be 3p.

She feels like she doesn't have a team or tmi but she is just struggling to post like she does when she's not town.
this is rly mehhh

Why would Porscha struggling to post be 3p indicative? Like she struggles to post as a wolf due to TMI. Why would 3p!porscha struggle?

kinda makes me think u have TMI on her alignment
Because Porscha feels alone in the thread. Her posting doesn't have agenda but it's still struggle posting. Before her current pop in it was pretty stiff.
My point is that 3p porscha wouldn't struggle to post. This is a read that makes no sense to me and is either TMI'ing her not a wolf for her flip from whatever neon did to her or sorta game related fluff to throw out there to seem towny

But then again this interaction feels like it maked Lily never with Sabi lol. @Porscha

I guess there's nothing really stopping sig from being mod squad with KP. The Alison shot really felt like it came from non town to me and I doubt I'm ever going to shake that feeling. Sig's posts in claiming it also felt kinda awkward and not really townie.

MR's tone before dying was virtually identical to Lilypetal's and he flipped mafia.

HK was an easy choice. Flipped 3p.

Townies are doing well. The Alison vig shot is probably back breaking.

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:20 pm teamwork sucks. i'm more of a lone wolf, so to speak.

lolll

it would be too fatalist except

a) Lily hates wolfing anyway and cannot match her town wim or tone as mafia
b) Wolves having no wim makes sense so

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:48 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:46 pm @falcon45ca what about my case on you is laughable
Not that you asked me but I found it very unreasonable and confbiased. You pulled heaps of things that I read in Falcon's favour and either called them scummy or dismissed their validity entirely just so you could maintain your read lol.

Fwiw I'm doing the same cuz I'm confbiasing you as wrong cuz of my townread but hey we're all hoomanz.

Vote Lily like a true pro.
I pulled all his interactions with confirmed mafia and posted them in the spoiler, and read them all in order as I sorted for progression.

Sounds like you’re confbiasing your town read of him.
But I’ll admit I’m known to confbias with my cases. I just want to know if anyone else sees what I’m seeing

Yes... I literally said that.

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:49 pm Lily is scummy but her votes are good and I doubt the soup mafia has *another* KP on top of Seanzie (if Lily's claim is true, anyway).

Day 1 voted Iawy
Day 2 voted Seanzie who had other mafia voting him

Don't think her votes are remotely clearing. If you read her iso she voted heaps of town throughout the game.

She also shielded mafia.

She also has no wim.

Shes mafia. Probably soup mafia.

@Lilypetal you really don't like to play mafia when you rand mafia do you lol

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:42 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:21 am So not voting toDay

Dennis
Kate
Golden
Zeus
Lucy
Ender

Not a fan of
Lily
Alison
Rondo
Honestly this is quite likely to be clearing for Michelle. @Golden
Who is Zeus

But yeah that's a really good look actually. Or TMI. I have been coming around on Michelle, and you know she has done towny things throughout the game and if she gets a foothold maybe I'll fully realise I'm tinfoiling.

One of the PC heads.

Michelle doesn't bus btw. Like ever. It's not in her wolf playstyle to a completely lock reliable degree.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:46 pm @falcon45ca what about my case on you is laughable

Not that you asked me but I found it very unreasonable and confbiased. You pulled heaps of things that I read in Falcon's favour and either called them scummy or dismissed their validity entirely just so you could maintain your read lol.

Fwiw I'm doing the same cuz I'm confbiasing you as wrong cuz of my townread but hey we're all hoomanz.

Vote Lily like a true pro.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:39 pm rip lucy

one of her best day 1s i've quite literally ever seen lol

[VOTE: pxxy] aubergine

vote her legacy

Scummy af

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:31 pm i kinda tr sabi after seeing their scum game again

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:33 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:32 am Somebody tell me who to vote for.
me

"I really hate wolfing"

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:36 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:21 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:34 am You are a hydra, in the game of champions, comprised of a group of players that didn't win a game in 2022, which is the prerequisite to entry into the game, with the name Party Crasher, and you have a bulletproof vest and you're town?

This is your story, and at least some part of it is a lie. I refuse to believe the above to be a truthful statement.
So basically either we're not town or we don't have a bulletproof vest?

well.
Does your role PM actually use the word bulletproof vest in it?
we have a one time protection from all death including chop

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:54 pm @Scotty @Michelle @Party Crasher don't vote me find wolves.

Don't worry about voting me today let's just try to win the game.
it sounds suboptimal to not use your ability as extra kp every day. it's like we have 2 chops. why not make use of it for no reason? if the pool of people voting you is small then it can be bad. but why not force (gently ask) consensus poe to vote you? for instance if we can convince 112 to vote you - why not shoot her?

-t

Because as demonstrated already when push comes to shove people will just vote elsewhere on a whim and I'll get left choosing with townie to kill. And we are winning anyway. It's a pointless distraction at this point that's most likely only going to end up with the townier POE members not making reads or voting where they want to be.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:21 am So not voting toDay

Dennis
Kate
Golden
Zeus
Lucy
Ender

Not a fan of
Lily
Alison
Rondo

Honestly this is quite likely to be clearing for Michelle. @Golden

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:18 am Alison's reaction is what I expect of v!her, but I'm also kind of biased because I'm already town reading her from her prior content

This is bad.

Townreading a wolf but hedging it by saying she was already townreading said wolf is pretty funny.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:54 pm @Scotty @Michelle @Party Crasher don't vote me find wolves.

Don't worry about voting me today let's just try to win the game.
On the flip side you said you’re compulsive, right?

So it’s actually worst case scenario if only townreads are left on you at end of day.

I’m only voting you because I’m a part of several people’s POE of whom I trust. I can certainly move if that changes tho

Thats not the flipside it's the a-side. With this strategy I will only ever end up shooting townies. So I'd rather not have any votes.

I have decided it's time for lilypetal to depart the game.

Sorry dear. All love.

[VOTE: Lilypetal] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:49 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:08 pm Also I just realized- maybe the mod squad IS the lost wolf faction and they aren’t knowingly teamed with anyone
Strong doubt bro. The flips literally say third party.
Right, but it’s the same 3rd party as ilario. Sounds like they are on the same ‘team’, even if they’re 3rd party.

But eh. Maybe not lost wolf. That would have a Mafia next to it I guess. I think it’s just bizarre to have identical 3rd parties in a game

Bro they are a faction... a team... they aren't identical 3rd parties. They are a team with the faction name mod squad whose roles were not revealed.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:18 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:10 am
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:03 am I have so much difficulty with the perspective going on here (and just in Alison’s posts generally)

What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?

What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?

You’re calling out things you can objectively claim are weird. But why is it bad? Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.

When someone comes in the thread pointing out weird shit and calling it all suspicious without analysis of why they think it’s wolf-leaning, that bothers me.

Alison, why do you think your above description of my behaviour towards Kate is wolf-leaning?
> What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?

You have TMI on Kate/want to look good if she flips town but don't actually want to talk the town out of voting her out.

You're pushing an agenda that involves Kate being town but struggle to back it up with real reasons because it's not a genuine read.

> What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?

Lots of people claim their roles early when they feel under pressure which Kate clearly did. Vanilla is a role that is not easily disproven in the way that a role with a more active component might be. But beyond that it's just an unlikely role to exist in the game, as previous GOCs have been role madness and nanook is not a host that is likely to make a game more mountainous.

> Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.

No I don't. Whenever people act weird I just kill them.
towniest post in the game lol

interdasting

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:37 pm Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus
seems more sabi indicative than wolf indicative

interesting

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:12 pm @Golden can you reiterate how Sig might have killed teammate Alison by mistake again please?
It's not hard. Just by shooting me, and looking at the list and realising that I wasn't on the list. Because a shot on me would kill Alison.

I mean a full one. I don't fully understand the mech.

The point in Lily's favour is she's consistently voted wolves and she tried to get people to stop pushing onto me. Obviously the latter can be pocketing but your list reads like specifically looking for town reasoning so there it is. She's had very clean votes and pushes when she could have just not

Evidence Ender is town.

He didn't just silently give guns to his teammates to use to shoot townies.

Pretty strong evidence if you ask me.

Good case bruh

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I am starting to feel like resolving Rondo now is optimal even though I think he's town because his play is making me nervous that he's trying to buy time to achieve a wincon like a full soup or something. Which may explain why I'm still alive as I've claimed already and they can just soup me at any point.

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:12 pm @Golden can you reiterate how Sig might have killed teammate Alison by mistake again please?
Golden is saying that he redirected actions from himself to Alison.
Seems unlikely that sig would know right away to claim the kill on Alison thoughhh

Hmmm well given Alison and Golden were in a hood the mafia would have known that also so if he shot Golden and Alison died it's perhaps not a difficult conclusion to draw.

But yes I guess it's risky in case it turns out you just got blocked or Golden protected and someone else killed Alison.

Also why didn't you colour yourself green lol.

@Urist so you're saying you have PC and Scotty as different basically?

@Golden can you reiterate how Sig might have killed teammate Alison by mistake again please?

Find the mafia and vote them out. Don't worry about voting me it's needless wifom at this point. We are winning without it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:06 pm [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

We're gonna make sure we get more votes on the real wagon (whoever that is) today, right?

Please stop voting for me when I keep telling people not to. I am sick of writing posts that simply do not get read.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:25 pm I am the true champion for my horse img

So 112 popped in to say this and nothing else.

I don't love it.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:46 pm Oh fuck never mind. Everything I said about Guillo is wrong. Creature flipped with my other role. Guillo can die fuck it.
His reaction to your claim still sounds like town w/ the role. I mean, how risky a play is that for Maf to make to try and push you?

True. Also if he 0 posts well... he's just getting replaced or mod killed right?

Part of me just wants to like... clean out the game if slots who've had wagons and not died. It gives us better data points. Flipping the likes of Scotty, Rondo, SVS, Marmot... Even though I have townreads in here feels +ev for town given the gamestate.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:46 pm Oh fuck never mind. Everything I said about Guillo is wrong. Creature flipped with my other role. Guillo can die fuck it.
He still claimed and his reaction is still the same. So, tell me, where's your head currently at on that.

Hmm maybe there's another kiwi townie still in the game too?

I dunno it feels like there would be the same number of Kiwi and American townies ... maybe that's arbitrary tho.

@Scotty @Michelle @Party Crasher don't vote me find wolves.

Don't worry about voting me today let's just try to win the game.

Anyway I repeat that Guillo most likely doesn't actually have my role now that I've seen Creature did.

Or maybe he still does but it's less likely.

Bye.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:52 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:31 pm Noted how Party and Sloonei are affraid to vote Mac

I don't think i buy that Sloonei don't understand Mac's claim
@MacDougall explain it again
I am not afraid. I am just uncertain about the current state of things. And I also have not seen a direct explanation of what Mac’s ability is. I have only seen it referenced indirectly.

Read Creature's flip I have the same role.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:03 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:02 pm why do my other heads keep claiming smh
Vote Mac pls

If you persuade half the game to vote me we won't vote out a wolf. I don't want voting me to become the central theme. Find a mafia to vote. I don't even want you to vote me and have already said this.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:08 pm Also I just realized- maybe the mod squad IS the lost wolf faction and they aren’t knowingly teamed with anyone

Strong doubt bro. The flips literally say third party.

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