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by MacDougall
Sun Apr 20, 2025 7:38 am
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Master Radishes wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:22 am Jack hiding to avoid spew perhaps
Hmm. I dont feel like that makes much sense. His survival wasn't exactly out of the question to start the day and there's nobody left alive who he should be confident enough in carrying through f3 to justify that. I'd say it's more likely he's the last mafia and decided he can't win or he just lost interest (after a wolf flip he was part of...). Latter doesn't really vibe either.
by MacDougall
Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:52 am
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Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

It's kind of wild that Jack hasn't posted at all today...
by MacDougall
Sat Apr 19, 2025 7:13 pm
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Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Master Radishes wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:41 pm To use an old reference from MU,

Falcon's iso was a plinko board. Gims' iso is a waterfall.
How's LCs?
by MacDougall
Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:41 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:40 am
gims wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:10 am LC, who else is scum? you think its three, and one of them is mac. but other than the mac push, I don't see who you think the other one might be. I'm gonna have to have a proper worldview from you, or its hard to understand your posting as coming from an actual solvey mindset.

also it seems to me like your entire mac case revolves around bussing and not his actual posting. not sure what to make of that.
We just have different solving styles and you have no experience with Mac, while I have played many games with him. He's perfectly capable of posting like Town when he's Wolf, so I don't focus on that as much.

I think it's Mac and Jack. Neither were around for the falcon elimination, therefore none of the arguments about what would be optimal play from two experienced players are strong.
So your case is that I not only bussed Falcon but then to follow it up now decided to bury my other partner too?
by MacDougall
Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:55 am
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:15 am
MacDougall wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:08 am
Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:01 am Why does that post make me a Wolf? I'm disappointed in your response.
I didn't say that post made you a wolf. I already had that opinion.
Ok but I'm disappointed because you treated the post like a presentation piece to the rest of the thread and not a conversation with Long Con. I asked a question at the end that is kind of important to the understanding of where we stand in this game and I want to know if I analyzed the situation correctly because I'm drunk and I may be way off-base, but you treated it like I was making a statement at my trial and you're addressing the jury. :suspish:
bruh imma be so fr

I was busy af and couldn't be fucked giving a more comprehensive answer.
by MacDougall
Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:54 am
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Master Radishes wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:49 am I won't yet dismiss the idea of Mac being mafia. And I don't think falcon's iso spews him as clear as he thinks it does or wants it to.

But he's not wrong that it'd be illogical for him to bus falcon there. He had all the room in the world to stick with voting me and at the very least create a tie. He could've just done his Mac thing of loudly and repeatedly flooding the thread with anti MR content and keeping momentum on me.
Okay then dismiss the idea.
by MacDougall
Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:08 am
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:01 am Why does that post make me a Wolf? I'm disappointed in your response.
I didn't say that post made you a wolf. I already had that opinion.
by MacDougall
Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:57 am
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:55 am
MacDougall wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:44 am It's not Trumpian. You have to ignore that I simply had no need to do it. I am if nothing else an efficient player. Especially as mafia. It is simply far far easier to win this game not doing what you-re accusing me of.
Tell me about the future of a Mac-Wolf 3-man team if Radishes were yeeted instead of falcon. Assume Radishes is Town for this exercise. Is it a slam dunk for a three-person Mafia team had we eliminated Town instead?

It depends somewhat on how the fallout of that MR lynch comes around. But there'd be three voices in the thread to direct opinion, which would probably be pretty strong.

Wait, no. I just looked. There are six players left. That would have been the final elimination of the game; Mafia would have reached parity after the nightkill. Or it's a 2-person Mafia team and falcon's teammate would a) not be so disposed to bus and b) be scrambling to get a handle on several future yeets as a solo baddie.

If it's a three-Wolf team then everyone who voted falcon must be Town, because a Town yeet would have resulted in Mafia victory.

If it's a two-Wolf team then bussing is possible but a harder road to travel, albeit with an advantage.

Again, I have had a few drinks. Is my assessment accurate or did I miss some key factors?
Yes i think we are either in LC + Jack or just Jack.
by MacDougall
Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:44 am
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

It's not Trumpian. You have to ignore that I simply had no need to do it. I am if nothing else an efficient player. Especially as mafia. It is simply far far easier to win this game not doing what you-re accusing me of.
by MacDougall
Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:40 am
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 3 (8/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Long Con wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:03 pm Think past level 1 and imagine a world where Falcon and I are mafia IN THIS GAME.

How does both of our day 3 play make sense? Knowing what you know about how both of us play?

First and foremost I have zero need to bus him. And to do so in a blunt way where I've established no credibility decreases my wincon versus just continuing to vote MR. I can easily get MR over, maybe even Roxy if I want to flip to hard siding with MR. I could probably even get you over. But instead of any of those options I lazily vote out my wolf teammate? Cmon.

And then Falcon, the passive team member... decides to jump on me after ostensibly town LC votes me, putting me in danger of elimination too?

This makes zero sense as mafia agenda for me and you'd have to wilfully ignore everything you know about me to make argument to the contrary.
IN THIS GAME you already have gims absolutely convinced that you are Town, as soon as falcon flipped, Mac and Jack are just not even conceivable as possible baddies.

See, the scenario I'm seeing is that you bussed your teammate at an opportune time, in an optimal way, and have achieved the standard desired credibility results one receives for this sacrifice... and yet, you're saying to my face that it makes zero sense.

This is some absolute Trumpian-level 1984 crap and I almost feel insulted that you would try to present it as terrible, inconceivable play to make while you literally are publicly reaping the rewards.

[VOTE: mac] aubergine
All I can say is it's nonsense. You're essentially saying i made my game harder by orders of magnitude just to explain the unlikely. That is quite literally your argument. "Mac could have done this so he did."
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:06 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

gims wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:48 pm if its three, it can maybe be jack AND lc. hence lc pushing mac, instead of someone who could be scum.
yup we are aligned
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:21 pm
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Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Fwiw I was comfortable with just voting out MR yesterday and the only reason MR is even alive right now is because I decided to vote out Falcon instead.

If I was a wolf MR is not alive right now. The table was absolutely set for his miselim in Mac wolf worlds and I threw it away to not only save him but also kill my teammate. Not happening.

Argue that fact all you want but if I come back at the time I switched to Falcon and instead just insisted we had to resolve MR... MR is dead regardless of his remonstrations.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:18 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Master Radishes wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:17 pm
gims wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:15 pm roxy still just hardcore tunneled on radishes is somewhat earnestly towny
Probably
Spoiler: show
but in a 3 wolf world I think she still fits
Does anything particularly rule out the 3 wolf world?

And/or in that world does LC/Jack not make sense either?
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:18 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

gims wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:16 pm I understand the jack posts look bad. I'm not fighting this flip. but imo its really just LC.
@Long Con I think your interest would make more sense to be in debating your alignment with gims than mine with me.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:03 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Think past level 1 and imagine a world where Falcon and I are mafia IN THIS GAME.

How does both of our day 3 play make sense? Knowing what you know about how both of us play?

First and foremost I have zero need to bus him. And to do so in a blunt way where I've established no credibility decreases my wincon versus just continuing to vote MR. I can easily get MR over, maybe even Roxy if I want to flip to hard siding with MR. I could probably even get you over. But instead of any of those options I lazily vote out my wolf teammate? Cmon.

And then Falcon, the passive team member... decides to jump on me after ostensibly town LC votes me, putting me in danger of elimination too?

This makes zero sense as mafia agenda for me and you'd have to wilfully ignore everything you know about me to make argument to the contrary.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:57 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Long Con wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:53 pm Part of me feels like LCs sus of me is somewhat genuine too. I can see a world in which he's sort of detached in a way where my still being alive and now suddenly posting a lot is just adding to suspicion he'd already vocalised and hasn't quite recognised yet that wolf Falcon sort of spewed me town by jumping on his suspicion.

That would be more likely to me than wolf Long Con doing this.
There's no falcon post that spews you Town, every example you gave look like regular distancing.
Falcon voted me after you and left it there all day. His and your vote put me in a situation where if the town were so compelled I'd be dead. Falcon didn't distance if I'm Mafia he bussed. And bussing me the way he did there is game losing. Why would Falcon my wolf teammate think the objective wolf wincon there is to bus me and try to carry himself?

Nonsense.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:55 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 3 (8/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Long Con wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:52 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:00 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:39 am
Roxy wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:13 am I could/will vote for:

gims
Radish
Mac

I think 3 baddies max bc of the 3P role and the town had a f'n stump that is the most useless town role ever written. Whoever dreamed that up had zero imagination.
I feel like Mac/Radishes are almost a....what do you call it? Difference check? One is scum and the other is town.

Gims is wolfy with Radishes, seeming very unwilling to vote there. That was the main reason I voted Radishes, because of Gims super not wanting Radishes dead, not because of anything Radishes actually did or said beyond the quadcomboposts.
@Master Radishes Jack trying to put us in a difference check here is mafia agenda to try to keep miselims in front of Falcon who was being too passive.
Difference check is the most overused and misused term in contemporary Mafia so for that alone I'm happy to kill him.

I don't really get why you and I are a different check anyway. We've not interacted much.

As I say I'll look tomorrow.
The difference check thing is the only compelling evidence here. Articles 1 thru 3 look like standard distancing.

Following a rando vote on you, on a go-nowhere non-wagon, on the day he gets voted out as Mafia, is actually the literal example they give in the Distancing Textbook.
You voting me and the mafia taking a queue to vote me at the opportune moment when the momentum towards my death is at its apex is not how to distance. It's how to kill. Do you think wolf Falcon genuinely wants wolf Mac dead?
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:53 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Part of me feels like LCs sus of me is somewhat genuine too. I can see a world in which he's sort of detached in a way where my still being alive and now suddenly posting a lot is just adding to suspicion he'd already vocalised and hasn't quite recognised yet that wolf Falcon sort of spewed me town by jumping on his suspicion.

That would be more likely to me than wolf Long Con doing this.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:50 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Master Radishes wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:46 pm Or maybe I'll look now. Baby awake.

I've learned to play Mafia one handed on my phone whilst rocking a baby to sleep.
How cute. Grats on the bubba.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:50 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Long Con is like ... a boring but objectively impossible to argue with conclusion. For LC to be mafia both mafia decided to try to bumrush me yesterday and ended the day somehow with a pure town coalescing against them which like how good. Not a normal tactical choice for mafia to make but Falcon is not a level 1 thinker. He's a passive wolf but he doesn't play to a predictable playbook. So I can't really object to LC sus. Outside of that LC hasn't been towny in many places either.

I just think the Jack sus feels more ... I dunno ... standard operating procedure final wolf for a mafia game? There's effort to wolfside.. people who've been successfully pocketed. Distancing. It carries traits.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:44 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 3 (8/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:54 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:51 am Sigh.

I see where LC is coming from but I also think we need to chop MR cuz I think the Wilgy c/w only rly makes sense if MR is mafia?
I don't even see "where I was coming from" there. The KJQ suspicion? The "we need more activity" gripe?

I don't think I said anything deep enough to warrant anyone trying sympathize my point if view, and I think you are suspicious fir it, you're working the room. Don't like it.

[VOTE: mac] aubergine
Leading the charge, eh?



Let's see what this does [VOTE: mac] aubergine



@MacDougall Let's go on a canoe ride
Article 4
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:44 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 2 (10/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:29 am
Master Radishes wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:12 am
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:28 am
Master Radishes wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:49 am When I pop into the thread I think 'who is that in the corner of my eye'.

Maybe it's falcon instead.
Maybe it's Maybelline



What's your take on Mac? He's been pushing you, and it feels like you kinda enjoy the locker he's trying to stuff you in



I don't know that I've seen you say much, if anything, about him. Why is that?
I tend to wait a bit to read Mac. He becomes clearer by D3 ish imo. His push on me felt too confident at first and he's a bit one track mind, but I think I'd expect scum Mac to bounce around more by now to imitate his town game, leaving me to consider he might believe it.
Holy waffle take Bat-Man!



Zounds!
Article 3
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:43 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 2 (10/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:28 am
Master Radishes wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:49 am When I pop into the thread I think 'who is that in the corner of my eye'.

Maybe it's falcon instead.
Maybe it's Maybelline



What's your take on Mac? He's been pushing you, and it feels like you kinda enjoy the locker he's trying to stuff you in



I don't know that I've seen you say much, if anything, about him. Why is that?
Article 2 with bonus MR spew
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:42 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 1 (13/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

falcon45ca wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:04 am
gims wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:54 am mac on fire here imo

mac, I'll vote whoever you want to vote
Oh mah gawsh, Mac I wuuuuv you



[VOTE: gims] aubergine



Hey, did you ghost vote me? Pourquoi
Article 1 of Falcon spewing me town.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:41 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Long Con wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:12 pm Nice timing LC... If you're mafia and your gameplan here is to go after me I'd advise you to consider an easier path to victory like pocketing me and helping me miselim Jack.
What if I'm Town and my gameplan is to go after you here? It's a hard path to victory, no doubt, but if I think you're Mafia then whatcha gonna do, right?
I'm not mafia and I would hope that becomes apparent as we engage.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:40 pm
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Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

gims wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:22 pm I also don't understand what about my play was antitown, but that doesnt matter, I suppose.
Oh like the results of it... wasnt implying you were being antitown in a toxic way.

You've been lovely. You've been trying.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:17 pm
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Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

I can't really find any reason to townread LC. Which in an of itself probably spews him town tbh.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:12 pm
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Nice timing LC... If you're mafia and your gameplan here is to go after me I'd advise you to consider an easier path to victory like pocketing me and helping me miselim Jack.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:10 pm
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Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Long Con wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:51 pm
gims wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:41 pmAma.
well I think one of us is skill issuing with jack cause I read his ISO and its very clearly town fmpov. I don't understand the associative you're throwing with falcon. yesterday, jack votes falcon, 'not married to it', but never returns to do anything else with that. I think bussing and then doing nothing with it, while *fine*, isn't how scum strategizes more often than not. the vote would come with *reasons* or whatever. the 'not married with it' would come with alternatives. you see what im saying?

why can't it just be LC?
No gims. A mafia voting a mafia and hedging like that isn't townie. That's standard operating procedure.

The mentality behind it is to put his vote there but also give town no confidence in following it.
Like this?
MacDougall wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:54 am fine let's kill falcon
No LC not at all like that.

Jack literally said words to the effect of "I have no confidence in it". I quite visibly did not.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:09 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

You're going to have to highlight all the others in his iso gims cuz that one isn't enough.

It should be clear why he would vote Falcon there as mafia. Falcon's own passivity had made him default poe member. MR and Roxy's fire mean they're no longer viable. You are his huckleberry. Voting me is fraught with danger and he knows this about me. If he tried to get me over and failed (especially if Falcon goes over) it's practically game losing. He had dabbled with that danger on previous days but his positioning on me throughout the game has tended towards pocketing except for opportunistic stuff like "flash wagon to mac" which he can pass off as a joke but if it actually takes off he absolutely commits to but gets to share in blame.

His only paths as mafia there are to vote Falcon or LC... LC can be the default boring option I suppose. I'll review LC to see if I can rule it out.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:03 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 3 (8/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

gims wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:52 pm Feel free to continue to highlight the "obviously town" things in his iso but the spectre of your Jack townread being the reason you've survived the game thus far looms large also.
I didn't understand the latter part of this post

oh, I think our styles clash very hard. I think you're really just town, which helps both of us solve our PoEs. but I disagree with how youre solving now on a fundamental level and I'm unsure if I can communicate with you effectively.

check the progression jack has before voting falcon. its about people in the POE he had in his mind that he was striking as probtown based off night actions. that comes after the post you highlighted about not knowing what scum team would make the kills they made (fmpov, I think reading into it should be absolutely secundary to reading the slots atm). he then concludes, correctly as it turns out, that falcon is a good place to put your vote. that whole thing feels like genuinely coming to a conclusion, and not something fake. im highlighting one of them but I think there are plenty of those moments in jack's ISO.
That's very much a you problem because I'm very good at mafia so you should probably adapt not dismiss.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:02 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

You can see the mafia agenda in a lot of Jack's play after you recognise Falcon is mafia tbh.

Gims, Roxy, MR all have anti town content but the way they articulate it has a strong tone of town entitlement to it. They have their reads. Jack lacks town entitlement to his pushes. He's just trying to find miselims instead. His positions shift subtly around what's best for business. With an absence of focusing on Falcon that can't be explained away given his role as "the voice of reason" in this game.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:00 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Re: Day 3 (8/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:39 am
Roxy wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:13 am I could/will vote for:

gims
Radish
Mac

I think 3 baddies max bc of the 3P role and the town had a f'n stump that is the most useless town role ever written. Whoever dreamed that up had zero imagination.
I feel like Mac/Radishes are almost a....what do you call it? Difference check? One is scum and the other is town.

Gims is wolfy with Radishes, seeming very unwilling to vote there. That was the main reason I voted Radishes, because of Gims super not wanting Radishes dead, not because of anything Radishes actually did or said beyond the quadcomboposts.
@Master Radishes Jack trying to put us in a difference check here is mafia agenda to try to keep miselims in front of Falcon who was being too passive.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:58 pm
Forum: The Job
Topic: TOWN WINS Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia
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Views: 67171

Re: Day 3 (8/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:47 am
Roxy wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:41 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:35 am
Roxy wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:05 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:51 am Sigh.

I see where LC is coming from but I also think we need to chop MR cuz I think the Wilgy c/w only rly makes sense if MR is mafia?

Who else is bad? Who is your top suspect? Why so quiet this game?

Someone once said if Mac is alive D3 he is bad.
I quite agree with this train of thought.

I could vote for you v easily.
My initial reaction is to reject this. Mac seems town to me. MR seems scummy to me.

But if that's true....why is TSP dead?

Like LC said, we're in position to sleepwalk to a MR yeet. If I'm wolves with MR, I call his survival a lost cause and shoot someone who voted him. Mac's a great option because if he's right about other suspicions, it shuts him up and if he's wrong, you can use his death to point at the townies he suspected.

So why is TSP dead?
I got the feeling reading his posts he had a great role.

Radish is baddie to me too, it's just the Porscha kill that makes me think ---Mac. Could be wrong--sure but it is just a gut thing.
Yeah wtf is Porscha dead for that matter?

No shade. I like Porscha a lot. But Porscha kinda tends to get mischopped and rarely bulldog wrestles a wolf to the ground.
Here he's trying to steer Roxy towards me. But Jack unfortunately doesn't have stones large enough to commit to killing me. He could have cuz I wasn't coming back.

Jack you could have won if you just voted me out instead of bussing lol.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:55 pm
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Re: Day 3 (8/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:08 am No team I can imagine kills Porcha (or Pyxxy) and then Tony.
Jack's NKA here comes from a place of hoping he can find a slam dunk false positive case on town but when he can't he simply takes refuge in the truth.
by MacDougall
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Feel free to continue to highlight the "obviously town" things in his iso but the spectre of your Jack townread being the reason you've survived the game thus far looms large also.
by MacDougall
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

gims wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:41 pmAma.
well I think one of us is skill issuing with jack cause I read his ISO and its very clearly town fmpov. I don't understand the associative you're throwing with falcon. yesterday, jack votes falcon, 'not married to it', but never returns to do anything else with that. I think bussing and then doing nothing with it, while *fine*, isn't how scum strategizes more often than not. the vote would come with *reasons* or whatever. the 'not married with it' would come with alternatives. you see what im saying?

why can't it just be LC?
No gims. A mafia voting a mafia and hedging like that isn't townie. That's standard operating procedure.

The mentality behind it is to put his vote there but also give town no confidence in following it.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:49 pm
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

My accusation goes..

Jack/Falcon killing Porscha n1 does make sense. Jack himself couldn't even find a reasonable explanation for why Porscha died n1 (cuz pointing out he's the only likely killer isn't the smartest thing to do).

But why? Well I had a PoE with Jack in my town and Falcon not in my POE which meant I had a bad solve. Porscha was subtly the most problematic slot for exactly Jack on d1 after I stopped sussing him. Even though I TR TSP something about Jack's push on him made my detatched former self town read him which Porscha rightly criticised and tried to get me to review. This is why she died.

Falcon also opened with an unexplained Jack vote that went nowhere and Jack ignored. Jack's treatment of Falcon throughout the game is an absence of interest in solving him until at the end when he made a decision to just hard distance but even when he did Falcon's demise was hardly a foregone conclusion.

Falcon defended Jack from Pyxxy which triggered a troll response in Jack.

Jack's iso is sort of packed with manipulative stuff particularly around MR/Roxy. You can see how he's subtly fanned the flames of the deterioration of comms between them tbh. Let me demonstrate.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:41 pm
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

I am now 100% certain Jack is mafia fwiw. Ama.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:40 pm
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Re: Day 1 (13/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:10 am
pyxxy wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:50 pm vote: jack
while I don't have an alignment read on Jack, I get the feeling that pressuring him on D1 is not going to be fruitful

I have no explanation for this besides my gut
pyxxy's Maf
I mean he's objectively correct. :grin: Idk what you want, man.
damn that Falcon post is pretty wild

yeah fuck it

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:39 pm
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Re: Day 1 (13/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:01 pm
Porscha wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:05 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 6:39 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
ok 1 is a coincidence but 2 is naughty lol
Image
hmmm
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:37 pm
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Re: Day 1 (13/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Porscha wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:44 am
MacDougall wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:08 am My POE

Falcon
Wilgy
MR
Jack
hi mac

why do you tr tsp and you sr jack when you made this post, ? and havent really said what or why has changed your reads on the 2 players:
MacDougall wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:36 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:37 pm did scotty get really good while I was out or should I assume he's town (non-derogatory)
I don't love this though tbh
jack is town
Hmmm.
by MacDougall
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Re: Day 1 (13/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

MacDougall wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:00 am Town

Jack
Kay
Porscha
Pyxxy
TSP

Shrug

MR
Roxy
Falcon

Sus

Gims
Wilgy
LC
Scotty

find me the town in my sus pile
Maybe it's Jack tbh. Otherwise I'm not sure why I dodged the n1 and n2 kills.
by MacDougall
Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:33 pm
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Re: Day 4 (6/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Eh don't overreact to roxy's ate gims... she goes over next for certain.

I largely agree with your first solve. After reading the eod yesterday I think Roxy/LC are the most likely. Falcon spewed MR town imo. Jack was critical to Falcon going over and did not need to townside.

@Roxy can you talk to me about why you townread Falcon so much please?

@Master Radishes can you explain why you tried so hard to push Roxy over Falcon?
by MacDougall
Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:54 am
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Re: Day 3 (8/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

fine let's kill falcon
by MacDougall
Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:03 am
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Re: Day 1 (13/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

gims wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:51 am
MacDougall wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:01 am
gims wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:54 am mac on fire here imo

mac, I'll vote whoever you want to vote
Based on your stated positions my recent posts making you feel this way doesn't make much sense to me. What do you like about them?
youre just clearly town imo

I think youre wrong abt LC and scotty doing theatre, it looked pretty genuine from both sides, but thinking its theatre also seems to come from a town POV from where im sitting

I know, I know, everything I write here is looking informed and kinda wonky
Yet no comment on my alignment when you enter with a wagon on me... right.
by MacDougall
Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:02 am
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Re: Day 3 (8/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:56 pm My reason for voting Wilgy was mainly that the poll was sitting at 6 votes Radishes, and no votes anywhere else. It just felt unhealthy for the game, so I put a vote on someone else that I had felt slight suspicion of, just to see if some motion would happen for future reference. Sucks that he was Town of course, maybe if Radishes is bad then gims is his teammate? :shrug2:

So yeah, that didn't turn out well. But Mac made me suspicious so I put a vote there, because that's how we do. Follow at your own risk, I'm not feeling especially keen or confident so far this game.
How did Mac make you suspicious?
by MacDougall
Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:01 am
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Re: Day 3 (8/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:16 pm
Roxy wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:08 am If anybody is willing to do GTH top 3 reads it would be appreciated.

Mine for baddies:

radish
gims
Mac? Not really feeling this as strong as the others
I'm your huckleberry,



GTH Maf: MR, Mac, Jack



GTH Town: Roxy, KJ, LC



Talk to me about gims, what's behind your read?
I could easily kill Falcon too. Throw Gims and MR and him together and call it my solve. Falcon doesn't arbitrarily throw my name in his solve like this. He's also not making a read on Gims which makes me think he's only got one mafia in his maf solve.
by MacDougall
Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:59 am
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Re: Day 3 (8/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:23 am
Long Con wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:53 pm I just don't see how the Wolves don't simply walk away with the game with this activity level. I worked into the evening today, got home late, had dinner. I'm going to bed now, but if we're going to sleepwalk into an MR yeet today, I am not going to argue because I cast a vote last time and it ended up bad.

Maybe KJQ is the Wolf, look at their content today... WAIT ha ha, it's almost the only content today, making KJQ simultaneously the most and least suspicious with nonposters set aside. Ahhhh ok bedtime.
KJQ seems super townie to me. :shrug2:
I agree.

I also haven't been wolfsiding at all so sus of me is really based on paranoia and me not posting much which isn't a good enough reason.
by MacDougall
Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:58 am
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Re: Day 3 (8/13) Danganronpa 3: Future Mafia

Roxy wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:13 am I could/will vote for:

gims
Radish
Mac

I think 3 baddies max bc of the 3P role and the town had a f'n stump that is the most useless town role ever written. Whoever dreamed that up had zero imagination.
Well I agree with your other two suses.

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