MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:57 pmAnswer = both.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:42 am The only question I have is whether JPIC or Sprityo is more scummy
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MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:57 pmAnswer = both.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:42 am The only question I have is whether JPIC or Sprityo is more scummy
If i feel like i'm really in danger, I will. But there's still 30 something hours left in the day. so i'll get back to you on it
just because you say it a bunch doesnt make it less false and bad on youOddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:13 amVote wherever you want, say whatever you want. You are lockscum and all votes and insights coming from you are from a scum perspectivesprityo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:07 amMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:16 am I can't for the life of me understand how Sprityo is voting outside Nook/JPIC given he has two votes to use and from his perspective it's at minimum guaranteed to hit at least one mafia. At least Nook is voting Sprityo.
I also don't understand why the mafia aren't pushing on Nanook for similar reasons.
It feels like Nook/Sprityo is a difference check and JPIC is just outed to me.
Going to bed now.I certainly could. But I'll get there when i get there. When the town is full of "everyone is towncleared" what's the point of following the easy route? I have my method to my madness and i'll vote there if and when i want to.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:16 am I can't for the life of me understand how Sprityo is voting outside Nook/JPIC given he has two votes to use and from his perspective it's at minimum guaranteed to hit at least one mafia. At least Nook is voting Sprityo.
I also don't understand why the mafia aren't pushing on Nanook for similar reasons.
It feels like Nook/Sprityo is a difference check and JPIC is just outed to me.
Going to bed now.
This is....actually not a bad point. I am saving voting for JPIC only because I'm waiting on the host to confirm that he told mac what he did. But if JPIC isn't dead tomorrow or the next day there's no way we don't lynch him. We can focus energy elsewhereTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:12 am JPIC isn't going anywhere if he is a fake claiming wolf. He's not going to get skipped for the NK a couple times and have the town just forget to kill him. I really think it is just an obvious mistake to rush into chopping him when there is plenty of POE and plenty of wolves.
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:12 amBecause I'm scumreading him pretty hardMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:11 amWhy not?Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:00 amAre you sure you locktown this guy? Might be a bit early for thatMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:51 amTim is lock town because he said "claims" instead of "is". Not pandering to me when he very easily could = lock town. Tim, you have been elevated. You are now Simeon, the Incredible Talking Half Banana Half Orangutan. Your job is to try not to get night killed or misyeeted while I townshield you and drag you to endgame somehow.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:40 pm Mac claims to be a master of "first post reads." His first post is crafted specifically to meet his own first post townie standards and therefore is probably just NAI.
Stinky. The guy who avoided suspicion all day one has two posts a relative content. There are some questions to other players mixed in but nothing that put's forward town solving. Oddmerta suspected Tim all day, then decided he wanted to join the majority and suspect nutella. This stinks. Now for him to suddenly be all up in my business looks even worse for him. He's taking the current situation and running with it. This looks worse than any of the other two player's ive ISOd so far.Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:02 pm This is why nutella is scum, they never challemged any of the votes against them. Always going for people not on their wagon.
At 1 vote is where you start challenging but they let it get all the way up to 11 votes. As town surely you would do something about the people voting for you, 3 votes, 5 votes, 8 votes, 10 votes. It's not a runaway wagon at all, it's an unchallenged one
hey smart guy
I don't mean to get you down mac.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:42 am Sprityo why do you take the way I suspect you so personally? You're just one random person in a POE of 7 and you're only there because I saw no Nutella spew. It was Hally that further narrowed the POE to you, Nook and JPIC. I am not scumreading you because you're you. It's actually become draining to ever have to suspect you because of how personal you take it and how much you insult my character when I do.
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:41 amYou shouldn't be - as sprityo pointed out, 35 posts out of 25000000 are the actual game solving posts and the reads look pretty bad.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:41 pm If this is tutu’s scum game I’m super impressed tbh
It’s also hilarious
not gonna go over her today, obviously.
I'm sorry to inform you that no I did not. Mac is still a town read for me. No matter how flip floppy, tin foily, and wild his reads and reasonings get sometimes....Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:28 am Mac got post capped by Sprit, and that isn't necessarily w!Sprit. That's my guess.
this is great and all. How do we know youre not lying? [mention]Sloonei[/mention] ?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:44 am I have a role
I am banned from claiming anything about it
Sloonei does not want town PR investigatives infodumping in this game
JPIC is outed mafia
Honestly I would love to see itHally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:15 am jpic and sprit if you refuse to claim i will just yeet you both with no reservations at which point your roles will be public knowledge upon your flips, so it’s probably advisable to just claim them now if you’re town
we yeeted scum D1 and nobody died over night. we can very likely yeet another scum today from within my pool of three. there’s no reason to be coy because you’ll just die if you don’t claim
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:32 ami take this back - nutella did mention sprit a number of times, i was just reading his name as "spirit" lolstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:30 am just iso'd spirit and he had zero direct interactions with nutella, lol. i also could not find a single post where nutella mentioned spirit's name
this post would be notable if spirit actually took a stance on any of the possibilities instead of shrugging his shoulderssprityo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:00 pmSo this whole interaction Tutuu has with JPIC, Nutella, and SPF really rubs me the wrong way.Spoiler: show
Why is JPIC suddenly not mafia and suddenly town? He wasn't ever in trouble of getting lynched either as far as i can tell. then we have the transition of them trying to make Tim a counter wagon????
1. I dont think that wouldve ever happened.
2. Why suddenly do we need a counter wagon?
There has to be something alignment indicative within these posts. The way I see it is:
-JPIC is Town and trying to be pocketed by Tutuu for whatever reason
-SPF is Town or Mafia and just happens to be the target for that switch
-Nutella is Mafia with Tutuu and she does a halfhearted Counterwagon but doesnt want to try and get all of the people off of the huge wagon now formed. If it failed it would of course look bad. So she resign to "you should totally legacy read, sucks to be you"
-Nutella is Town and Tutuu is Mafia. Tutuu of course knows this and is trying to buy credit with the counter wagon attempt. "Aw man, I knew she was town" type of situation.
I dont think the last one is likely but I won't discount it.
that's the exact reason mac claimed wilgy is super town.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:30 am just iso'd spirit and he had zero direct interactions with nutella, lol. i also could not find a single post where nutella mentioned spirit's name
this post would be notable if spirit actually took a stance on any of the possibilities instead of shrugging his shoulderssprityo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:00 pmSo this whole interaction Tutuu has with JPIC, Nutella, and SPF really rubs me the wrong way.Spoiler: show
Why is JPIC suddenly not mafia and suddenly town? He wasn't ever in trouble of getting lynched either as far as i can tell. then we have the transition of them trying to make Tim a counter wagon????
1. I dont think that wouldve ever happened.
2. Why suddenly do we need a counter wagon?
There has to be something alignment indicative within these posts. The way I see it is:
-JPIC is Town and trying to be pocketed by Tutuu for whatever reason
-SPF is Town or Mafia and just happens to be the target for that switch
-Nutella is Mafia with Tutuu and she does a halfhearted Counterwagon but doesnt want to try and get all of the people off of the huge wagon now formed. If it failed it would of course look bad. So she resign to "you should totally legacy read, sucks to be you"
-Nutella is Town and Tutuu is Mafia. Tutuu of course knows this and is trying to buy credit with the counter wagon attempt. "Aw man, I knew she was town" type of situation.
I dont think the last one is likely but I won't discount it.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:54 pm Bloc 1
Alison
Colin
Dyachei
Juliets
Long Con
Tim
Master Radishes
Bloc 2
Hally
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
Oddmerta
Samu
Herm
Sprityo
Bloc 3
SPF
Mac
Tedxtr
Tutuu
JPIC
Nook
Poison Chan
I did visit mac, but he'll be upset to know that I i couldn't kill him if i wanted toMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:17 pmIf it helps pre-empt you. I townshielded JPIC a bit and townread him and I probably tilted Sprityo into putting a kill on me.
Like if you are doing what I think you are doing, it's Sprityo lol.
Mac, sometimes how shortsighted you are gives me a chuckleMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:41 pm Like this was a terrible result for mafia. So many town coalesced onto Nutella and have cleared themselves off the way they did it. Wilgy is among them.
Coming out to bat right as I go to sleep mac? I had better not wake up to 5 votes and 10 pages of being blasted. I’d love to not be set off so early in the morning.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:12 pm The following players are compatible with Nutella. Everyone else is incompatible. They are in order of compatibility from least to most. The bolded are also independently scummy. The bolded red are independently scummy and also scumread by me.
JPIC
Poison Chan
Radishes
Nook
Herm
Sprityo
Tim
perhaps, but the way you answer means you believe me somewhat. right? the possibility is there for you?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:35 pm spirit i appreciate the effort but i feel like a lot of your points against tutuu are just personality tells and not alignment tells
excellent, that means im right and tutuu is mafiaNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:31 pm Sprit you literally just described tutu’s play style
You guys sure about this? you want to give me some evidence before i get finished?
Paranoia tells me that it might have something to do with:
Sloonei wrote:Roleclaiming and infodumping may be legal for some, illegal for others.
Mechanics exist which make roleclaiming and infodumping potentially dangerous. Proceed with caution.
Paranoia tells me that it might have something to do with:
Sloonei wrote:Roleclaiming and infodumping may be legal for some, illegal for others.
Mechanics exist which make roleclaiming and infodumping potentially dangerous. Proceed with caution.
This looks like a list of:
No, being voted for a tunneled relentlessly made me mad enough to check if there is a legit reasoning for doing so. Had there been something to go off of then I wouldn’t be so heated about this. If someone is going to come after me they had better be prepared.Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:41 pmWas this "you are scum for scum reading me"? sprityosprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:48 pmAaaaaand That's all I really have. Let's wrap it up outside the spoiler:Spoiler: show
Alison has been making a lot of posts about past games, mechanics kind of? and of course pushing me and really only me. I saw something about Odd and ted here and there but really nothing to support her town reads or her two scum reads. I think Alison is trying to be a deepwolf with minimal effort to be honest. As for who could be her partners I could definitely but down JPIC, Mac, Tutuu, and Hally as potential partners.
-JPIC for how she suddenly scum read them, then didnt, then tried to help them not be scumread
-Mac couldve just been sheeped but there's also the possibility of "lol watch me get sprit mislynched, i've done it before. Just follow my lead"
-Tutuu and Hally are similar to mac, could just be buddy buddy with them and not actually partners.
really? I was gonna say it was another reach tbh. Then again I haven't paid much attention to samu either so maybe i should go see these "bad reads" alison is talking aboutstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:53 pmi actually like this read because it's incredibly common for mafia/3p to project their roles onto other players without realizing itAlison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:42 pmI actually agree! It was why I was townreading him at first!
But, like, his reads are so bad and disagreeable, and then there was that really, really weird accusation that came totally out of the blue of Mac being Rogue.
Has anyone else even mentioned Rogue besides that joke claim at the very start of the game? No, we've all forgotten that the 3P exists. We're focused on the town vs mafia aspect of the game. Not Samu though! He remembers Rogue exists. Rogue is on his mind, to the point where he rejects much more natural conclusions ("Mac is a mixed bag" "Mac is null" "I can't sort Mac") in favor of a real reach to call Mac 3P. I genuinely believe that this is a >>rand 3P tell, and I can show you a game where 3P outed their alignment exactly like this.
It would explain all the stuff I found confusing about him. He seems so agenda-less and his tone is so pure because he really doesn't have an agenda (or at least not the kind of agenda we expect from scum), and he really isn't trying to manipulate anyone. He's doing something completely different from the war between town and scum. He's giving reads like they're obligatory, because he isn't really invested in solving. They're bad reads because he doesn't put thought into them and he doesn't follow up on them, but they aren't constructed to feed a certain narrative or undermine certain players because he genuinely doesn't care.
To me this read makes a lot of sense and it ties all the threads of Samu's behavior together neatly. I'd really like to sit on this wagon and see how far I can ride it.
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:46 pmCome sheep my wagon on Samu! I have actual reasons!Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:45 pm Well, heck.
I have played the mow intensity goof off game I wanted to play, but now it is three hours to the midpoint of the day, where I post my day one reads, and I got nothin' in particular and haven't taken any notes from which to come up with anything.
Low intensity goofing off turns out to just be procrastination and now I have to make up for it.
Not amused.
I think thats just nanook though? At least that's how i felt about him in Upick2MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:29 pm Nanook feels like he's floundering amongst the overt towniness of the game.