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bruhhhhhhhhWindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:13 pm I feel like IAWY isn't partnered with Mung but I also believe he's not out of his wolf range
Idk, if you want speculation then he fits the profile of an SK pretty damn well, because he's not clear but he's probably also not partnered with Mung
Not in this game, for sure. I can make no such guarantees for any future game because I do not know what my rand will beSchiavetto wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:33 pm but i know you'd never put me through that again, iawy
right?
I don't know if you did it on purpose, but likeWindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:38 pmNgl I was waiting for you to comment on thatInawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:36 pmbruhhhhhhhhWindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:13 pm I feel like IAWY isn't partnered with Mung but I also believe he's not out of his wolf range
Idk, if you want speculation then he fits the profile of an SK pretty damn well, because he's not clear but he's probably also not partnered with Mung
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Time Zone Shmime Shmone, I'm always correct and know everything so that I can perfectly accuse people of thinks they're clearly capable of :PSabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:45 pmShe lives in Asia. Time zonesInawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:39 pm Anyways, Snow is still voting me and never returned to the thread and ngl that kinda sketches me out
As was extremely obvious, she was propped up as the designated chop D1 to push instead of Guillo to protect him before he got piled on
EBWOPInawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:19 pm Alright, so according to the OP, we started as a 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1
As of now, we're in F10, 2 Mafia dead, Colin is known-3P, Creature's 3P rolestealer is still out there, which leaves 2 mafia + another 3P unaccounted for entirely
so 5-2-1-1-1 if I'm getting it correct. If Creature was mafia, then it's 5-3-1-1 6-2-1-1
I have absolutely no intentions of killing you today yet. I stress that with italics only because I should be content-cleared myself, but we both reside in the PoE all the sameDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:27 pm Like two people have talked about killing me already
INAW is a good player. No way he doesn't realize Im mech cleared
, I'm not trying to be agreeable, I'm trying to winMungbean wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:32 am Working on the premise that a wolf likely hopped on the end of the Guillo wagon, these votes merit inspection:
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:11 pm @hollowkatt Sorry pal, I had doubts for a hot minute. RIP. GOAT.
Meanwhile,
[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergineCreature also voted for Guillo after it became clear that they were virtually beyond saving, but as we don't know what happened to that role it's not much use to speculate on that.
I'm going to ISO Le petit as I barely remember any of their posts.
Mungbean wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:44 amI don't like the timing of this unexplained vote. Things could very well have switched up in the directed of hollowkatt around this time, and dropping an unexplained vote here isn't a good look.
Also not particularly sold on this explanation. Maybe it was a "bait vote" but if so it was a very late-game attempt. The last line with the "lol" is totally something I could see a wolf saying when they realise their late-game actions look wolfy.Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:57 pmI just saw the wagon growth, like Nut and Sabi, and tryed a bait vote on HK to see what I could get out of it. Then HK posted some bad posts in reply to nut (didn't like the "how about no") and then he died. I liked Valentine's replies to my inquiries so didn't feel to start yet another wagon. Just sheep on Guillo.
TBH good job as a wolf to be so visible if some wolf pal is about to die lol.
Mung pushed Petit yesterday while he was commuted and couldn't defend himself, as well as continuing on the Val train. Val is conf now but obv a good look for Petit too
yes, but also Quas is correct and I didn't correct that mistakeIBA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:18 pmIf there’s 4 scum and then 2 dead scum then there’s 2 living scum no matter what Creature was, right?LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:15 pmif creature was town its 6-2-1-1Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:19 pm Alright, so according to the OP, we started as a 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1
As of now, we're in F10, 2 Mafia dead, Colin is known-3P, Creature's 3P rolestealer is still out there, which leaves 2 mafia + another 3P unaccounted for entirely
so 5-2-1-1-1 if I'm getting it correct. If Creature was mafia, then it's 5-3-1-1
Who were the two you shot DoOm?DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:21 pmYOU DO REALIZE I AM MECH CONF NOT SK OR MAFIA
DO PEOPLE READ
Val is confirmed town assuming we trust Colin not to be screwing with us, so it would just be Risii/Schia
Alright, that tracks, RIP pyxxy who was obvious town but also understandableDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:23 pmPyxxy and FloydInawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:22 pmWho were the two you shot DoOm?DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:21 pmYOU DO REALIZE I AM MECH CONF NOT SK OR MAFIA
DO PEOPLE READ
Is it a confirmed town vig?DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:25 pm Again.
There were 4 confirmed murder attempts day one.
Mafia Factional
Serial Killer
Town vig
Fourth kill. I am claiming this.
Unless someone else wants to claim this kill, I am confirmed to not be SK or mafia. lol
the second NK that's been going on every night alongside the mafia NK. There have been 3 deaths every single night but this past night only because Sabi was a D0 lover and so either she got shot and dragged one of DZ/Wind with her, or she got dragged along with one of them when they got shotLordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:26 pmwhat was the confirmed SK kill that you werent a part ofDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:25 pm Again.
There were 4 confirmed murder attempts day one.
Mafia Factional
Serial Killer
Town vig
Fourth kill. I am claiming this.
Unless someone else wants to claim this kill, I am confirmed to not be SK or mafia. lol
... IBA, actually listen to what DoOm is sayingIBA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:30 pmWe literally know there was a fourth shot happening somehow, what are you talking aboutDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:27 pmThree deaths n1. Also one save.LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:26 pmwhat was the confirmed SK kill that you werent a part ofDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:25 pm Again.
There were 4 confirmed murder attempts day one.
Mafia Factional
Serial Killer
Town vig
Fourth kill. I am claiming this.
Unless someone else wants to claim this kill, I am confirmed to not be SK or mafia. lol
So four total shots.
I am claiming the fourth shot. Unless you think I am the SK and the fourth shot is somehow happening elsewhere, explain that to me.
It does, I don't disagree, but also mechanically, just based on the fact that his role exists as it does, it's still an option even if the logic doesn't make sense to use it under the circumstances. Baseline of what is an objective fact, everything else above that is opinion and subjective. And you know as well as I do that everybody can do anything at any given time in a game and without being that player, we don't know their thought process and why they choose to do or not do something. So discounting it because you think Cape wouldn't do it, doesn't mean that he didn't - and that's super unfortunate for usDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:38 pmFor this you'd have to believe that Cape not only used this ability after the day was skipped (which I don't think so, for me it'd be weird to use the ability when no day happened) and that Cape chose three town killing themselves.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:34 pm If Cape killed himself N2 from his role, then theoretically we are only dealing with an odd-night vig and Cape didn't actually get killed by anyone else
To me I just don't see them choosing to use the ability once the day was skipped, feels like an awkward choice.
yep, and again, that puts us with a confirm second kill that's more than likely from a serial killer 3P but is non-town regardless, and then a kidnapper/day silencer that is more than likely mafia but is non-town regardless. If there's an extra kill, it's either a third unaccounted role OR it fits into a JOAT with the kidnapperDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:57 pmKidnapper would likely have to be mafia, I don't see how its helpful for 3p or townInawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:48 pm If the Chelsea shot was on N1, then we can confirm 4 KP because of the 3 flips + mechanical info about Chelsea having been shot via flipped-townie Wind (leaving a kill unaccounted for as of now). Otherwise, we can confirm 3 KP because 3 players flipped without any role-related shenaniganery in their descriptions
If the Chelsea shot was on N2, then we can confirm 3 KP because of the Nutella/Floyd deaths + mechanical info about Chelsea having been via flipped-townie Wind. Otherwise, we can confirm at least 2 KP on N2 by flips given Cape could've killed himself via his role from it's description
We can confirm at least 2 KP on N3 by flips given Sabi was a lover and died with one of DZ/Wind
That's about where we're at as far as kills go and I don't think there's anymore that can be gleaned from it except that if the 4 KP happened on N1, then Petit's kidnapper and one of those KP are probably coming from the same role (a JOAT), and that role probably is mafia. The kidnapper still exists regardless and is more than likely mafia
yeah, I don't doubt he is one given he and the role were both mechanically seen by two flipped townies at the same time, but pyxxy also flipped the same:DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:16 pmThis is very yikesInawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:15 pm Chelsea also received a proxy result N2 and pyxxy died N1, so
yeah, I want to point that out because that could potentially be a knock against Petit given I don't see how we have two town proxy cops. Pyxxy's is not an odd/even thing either, it's every night, so it can't be "pyxxy is odd proxy cop, Petit is even proxy cop"
I'd like to see how Petit feels
So it's a tricky situation and I'm going insane watching the thread and throwing out my thoughts and basically nobody being here
Very possible, but until he says something we don't know. That actually wouldn't surprise me now that I think about itDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:27 pmis it possible he backed up pyxxy's role?Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:25 pmyeah, I don't doubt he is one given he and the role were both mechanically seen by two flipped townies at the same time, but pyxxy also flipped the same:DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:16 pmThis is very yikesInawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:15 pm Chelsea also received a proxy result N2 and pyxxy died N1, so
yeah, I want to point that out because that could potentially be a knock against Petit given I don't see how we have two town proxy cops. Pyxxy's is not an odd/even thing either, it's every night, so it can't be "pyxxy is odd proxy cop, Petit is even proxy cop"
I'd like to see how Petit feels
So it's a tricky situation and I'm going insane watching the thread and throwing out my thoughts and basically nobody being here
huh
so the Chelsea show was on N1, meaning the 4 KP theory holdsWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:41 pmI didn't want you to claim your roleDeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:35 pmno you didnt. fuck it, might be stupid im always bad at mech playing and im confused blame me if this goes wrong just seems right to out this now?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:31 pmBecause I got redirected off nutella last night??
I watched who visited nut.
it was you, Nutella, Colin, and two more. One of you killed her. I think Nutella targetted herself, so all actions targetted her(?) seems weird can't work out why she'd do that.
I think the holes in Colin's story are:
- If Colin is telling truth, Nutella targetted Chelsea n1, meaning she chose to target a player who she lightly scum read for what I assume are town friendly actions; e.g. the heal we anticipate went on Nutella, any watchers who might watch Nutella etc. I can't see why Nut would do this. seems stupid for many reasons and creates confusion
I think you are town Windy. I dunno on the other two and gunna keep it to myself
I have information that fills in all the gaps in your knowledge and I didn't want to claim either, but now I have to because its better to give info
Last night, I saw a watcher (you), a neighborizer (probably Colin which is why I believe him), a vote-silencer (so I think Chelsea? cannot vote today), a nexus (this was nutella), a voyeur (myself), and a role I will not name because it is 100% town.
I saw NO KILL. I saw a kill action on N1 but none on N2 so I know I would've seen the kill if I had targeted nutella as planned. So I think she redirected all of us off herself and onto Chelsea, and the mafia kill went through on her.
Are you not a Motivator?LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:35 pmi'm taking it you said my name on accidentInawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:13 pmyep, and again, that puts us with a confirm second kill that's more than likely from a serial killer 3P but is non-town regardless, and then a kidnapper/day silencer that is more than likely mafia but is non-town regardless. If there's an extra kill, it's either a third unaccounted role OR it fits into a JOAT with the kidnapperDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:57 pmKidnapper would likely have to be mafia, I don't see how its helpful for 3p or townInawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:48 pm If the Chelsea shot was on N1, then we can confirm 4 KP because of the 3 flips + mechanical info about Chelsea having been shot via flipped-townie Wind (leaving a kill unaccounted for as of now). Otherwise, we can confirm 3 KP because 3 players flipped without any role-related shenaniganery in their descriptions
If the Chelsea shot was on N2, then we can confirm 3 KP because of the Nutella/Floyd deaths + mechanical info about Chelsea having been via flipped-townie Wind. Otherwise, we can confirm at least 2 KP on N2 by flips given Cape could've killed himself via his role from it's description
We can confirm at least 2 KP on N3 by flips given Sabi was a lover and died with one of DZ/Wind
That's about where we're at as far as kills go and I don't think there's anymore that can be gleaned from it except that if the 4 KP happened on N1, then Petit's kidnapper and one of those KP are probably coming from the same role (a JOAT), and that role probably is mafia. The kidnapper still exists regardless and is more than likely mafia
Right now, we have claims from every except three players - Schia, Snow, and myself. That's 2-3 roles for 3 players, assuming nobody is hiding extra abilities. But I don't anybody can be - IBA has a day ability, doesn't make sense to have night JOAT actions and also day JOAT actions mixed in. Quas is motivator and that's confirmed, but is also a day action and runs into the same problems. Chelsea potentially isn't cleared until you think about it, because either Chelsea both BP'd a shot and vig-shot someone else N1 (unlikely to be able to do both, but given it's a 1x BP not out of the realm of possibility but still insanely-unlikely she willingly chooses to use a BP on N1 on the off-chance she dies) OR Chelsea BP'd a shot and silenced Petit on N2. In both cases, Chelsea has to have been two doing actions at once, and that doesn't track given the number of unaccounted-for actions we know occurred
Which means that either all three of us are the remaining 2 mafia + the SK, or (from my worldstate), 2/3 of us are and the last player is hiding amongst the other clears
Petit and pyxxy both being proxy cop is something that I want to take note of, because pyxxy flipped as what should be Petit's role given it's description, but DZ and Wind both respectively saw Petit and a Proxy cop visit Nutella on the same night, and Petit and the Proxy Cop are the only player and role not accounted for from their results, which means that they have to be one and the same. So tell me how that makes sense
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhLordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:32 pmi'm not a proxy cop?Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:30 pm wait, pyxxy flipped proxy cop:
"Each night you may send two names to the host marked as player 1 and player 2. Player 1 will receive the alignment of player 2."
How are both pyxxy and Quas proxy cops?
Also Cape could easily have been killed by his own action reading it back:
"Once per game during the night you may name three players. If you name three town you die. You must use this ability before the end of night 3."
