DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:57 pm
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:48 pm
If the Chelsea shot was on N1, then we can confirm 4 KP because of the 3 flips + mechanical info about Chelsea having been shot via flipped-townie Wind (leaving a kill unaccounted for as of now). Otherwise, we can confirm 3 KP because 3 players flipped without any role-related shenaniganery in their descriptions
If the Chelsea shot was on N2, then we can confirm 3 KP because of the Nutella/Floyd deaths + mechanical info about Chelsea having been via flipped-townie Wind. Otherwise, we can confirm at least 2 KP on N2 by flips given Cape could've killed himself via his role from it's description
We can confirm at least 2 KP on N3 by flips given Sabi was a lover and died with one of DZ/Wind
That's about where we're at as far as kills go and I don't think there's anymore that can be gleaned from it except that if the 4 KP happened on N1, then Petit's kidnapper and one of those KP are probably coming from the same role (a JOAT), and that role probably is mafia. The kidnapper still exists regardless and is more than likely mafia
Kidnapper would likely have to be mafia, I don't see how its helpful for 3p or town
yep, and again, that puts us with a confirm second kill that's more than likely from a serial killer 3P but is non-town regardless, and then a kidnapper/day silencer that is more than likely mafia but is non-town regardless. If there's an extra kill, it's either a third unaccounted role OR it fits into a JOAT with the kidnapper
Right now, we have claims from every except three players - Schia, Snow, and myself. That's 2-3 roles for 3 players, assuming nobody is hiding extra abilities. But I don't anybody can be - IBA has a day ability, doesn't make sense to have night JOAT actions and also day JOAT actions mixed in. Quas is motivator and that's confirmed, but is also a day action and runs into the same problems. Chelsea potentially isn't cleared until you think about it, because either Chelsea both BP'd a shot and vig-shot someone else N1 (unlikely to be able to do both, but given it's a 1x BP not out of the realm of possibility but still insanely-unlikely she willingly chooses to use a BP on N1 on the off-chance she dies) OR Chelsea BP'd a shot and silenced Petit on N2. In both cases, Chelsea has to have been two doing actions at once, and that doesn't track given the number of unaccounted-for actions we know occurred
Which means that either all three of us are the remaining 2 mafia + the SK, or (from my worldstate), 2/3 of us are and the last player is hiding amongst the other clears
Petit and pyxxy both being proxy cop is something that I want to take note of, because pyxxy flipped as what should be Petit's role given it's description, but DZ and Wind both respectively saw Petit and a Proxy cop visit Nutella on the same night, and Petit and the Proxy Cop are the only player and role not accounted for from their results, which means that they have to be one and the same. So tell me how that makes sense