The Syndicate

And Vulgard looks okay on reread too, putting Falcon below Nacho but above Tim.

Fucking probably.

I mostly like what Radishes was doing yesterday upon reread.

His main poe was Falcon/Tim/Nacho/Marmot but he mostly spends time on the first two and wasn’t around for eod.

Protip: Be around at EOD

I mean kinda, yeah.

Vulgard’s iso is pretty freaking negative on Falcon.

Never votes there that I can tell. Ended up on Tim.

I have this gut feeling that LC is town but my gut has mostly steered me wrong.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:11 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:59 pm Radishes, Vulgard, Monkey, LC.

If I pretend my reads are actually really good all of the sudden, that’s all the non townies.

(Though 3P could honestly be just about anywhere.)
I am hard pressed to see Vulgard and Radishes as both wolves. Remember me mirroring Orange? This smells like that. I just can't figure out who is the innocent Orange and who is the mirroring wolf with any degree of comfort. Either way you need a fourth, so your reads still suck.

Not if we don’t care about finding the 3P.

Falcon’s iso is worthless and we should have killed him earlier.

He scumreads everyone and never votes for anybody or at least, he doesn’t call it in the thread.

I’m mad that I should just know if Radishes or LC is a wolf and I don’t.

If I was gonna bet the whole game on someone there being town I would say

Spoiler: show

Radishes, Vulgard, Monkey, LC.

If I pretend my reads are actually really good all of the sudden, that’s all the non townies.

(Though 3P could honestly be just about anywhere.)

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 3:20 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:29 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:24 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:22 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:21 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:20 pm Falcon outing himself as Mafia for us, very kind
You're welcome
You know Daisy's vote ended on Seanzie still, right? How is that distancing?
No, I did not know that. Is there egg on my face?

What's her rationale behind her EOD posts then?
I'm gonna guess she thought Seanzie claimed but then saw he didn't and put her vote back

you know like, exactly what she said?
Actually I think he did claim...in a vague way and way too late. When he flipped it was understandable why he did not full claim in a good timely fashion. I didn't like that Daisy slipped her vote off silently, but her reasoning seemed okay when she explained it so...meh.
Would her vote being there or not being there made a difference to the lynch? I feel daisy had been very townie before this and I don't think as scum she needed to this at all. I think falcon is reaching here on this.

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 3:42 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 3:34 pm Falcon reaching is typically NAI, it's just part of how he hunts
Will keep that in mind.

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:38 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:24 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:23 pm I wanna vote falcon because I thought he was scum on D2 but people in the thread repeatedly said he was town so i stopped going in that direction but now 2 my town reads are voting tim so i am confused on who to vote.
Read on marmot? Read on Tim?
Tim can be scum and town, i am on the fence about it. He has providing info which was useful for town but he been having a bad game or good game with the lynches based on how we see it. I felt that Mac was trying to get people to lynch marmot and would done that today if he was alive. Marmot is town for now for me.

Quoting relevant things abd coming to no conclusions ho!

I have to do isos but I don’t wanna do isos.

Marmot is the only player being discussed for yeet that I’ll throw a big obnoxious fit to save.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:47 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:46 pm Pretend I’m not really bad at math.
Every time I think you are not bad at math you offer up a proof.

I got perfect math LSDs.

Pretend I’m not really bad at math.

PS I hate this game

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 3:16 pm Heeeey @Jackofhearts2005 i know you said it unironically but can you walk me through what a no-lynch does to benefit town in this position?

Nothing.

I mean if you knew you had a vanilla 3 vs 1 and you have no freaking clue who the wolf is and you yeet randomly, 3 vs 1 is a 25% chance to get the wolf (33% chance to vote right from a given townie’s perspective) and 2 vs 1 is a 33% chance to yeet the wolf (50% chance to vote right from a given townie’s perspective).

But like half of power roles change the math. The wolf having potential to get a razor kill changes the math. And even if no powers are in play, what’s the chance of a 3 vs 1 where there isn’t a towniest player that the wolf is gonna default to killing?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:20 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 3:47 am Oh, about Gavial's action. I jailkept him last night. Partly because I expected him to get killed at night if he's town, given his role. Partly because I wanted to verify if he had KP. If he were groupscum, he seemed like a decent factional kill performer. If he were 3p SK, I would've reduced KP.

Since none of that happened, mechanics point to Gavial being town unless he's a 3p with no KP.
Expected...Gavail to be killed? The mayor of jesterville who wolves would love to take to endgame?

Uh...that’s wishful thinking there Vulgard.

Yeah, that’s a bit of a questionable line of reasoning.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:06 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 3:54 am If people are scumreading me because I didn't pay attention to the OP, I'm disappointed. I expected better. What, can town not ignore the OP or not pay attention, especially if they subbed in? Don't be ridiculous.

My PoE is similar to Radishes' PoE. The problem is that it's too small. Which is why I'm looking at people I'm not 100% sold on being town.

The scumreads on me feel like wolves scrambling because the reasoning is so terrible. "Vulgard didn't realize how many nontown there are, must be mafia."
It's not about you skipping the OP, or missing something in it. It's about the number of people who matter of factly stated at various points that there were five wolves according to the setup. You ISOed those people and never noticed? In more than a couple cases there was back and forth "how many wolves you think?" "five wolves" "you seem really sure <suss>" "well it's in the OP so..." "oh" type exchanges.

It could be that you are the hero the town really needed to step into the idle slot and you have worked your ass off, did all these ISOs while missing those conversations, and blasted out a bunch of 'solid' reads even if they are kinda "feelies" more than facts.

But it also could be that you are the power wolf the wolves needed to step in for dead Mac. That would explain how you did all the ISOs missing certain key points but coming up with very Mac like "feelie" reads...you could get them in wolf chat and they could conveniently fit the agenda rather than the reality.

Like, Master Radishes is not the least bit townish, but he's at the top of your list. Why is that? Daisy you have swung wildly around on, mostly without any reason beyond "need to widen the POE here." You've taken up dead Mac's torch of "Tim is pushing insane reads" when mine have been actually as good or better than yours.

All in all you could be either way here and have done nothing AI...but now you drop in the "oh BTW I'm the Jailkeeper that blocked Gavial who was going to provide a track." Now that is alignment indicative. Gavial, for all his daffy reads, is at least probably town, and with his tracker/watcher claim is a prime target for killing or blocking by wolves.

You have all these "suspects" in your POE, wtf would you JK the claimed tracker for as town? It wasn't protective...the wolves needed to kill Made. It wasn't to clear him. Maybe a tracker result would have, but you kept him from that. Might have cleared someone else too. And yeah since we are down in the short strokes that would be very bad...for the wolves.

So here's the deal @Master Radishes @Scotty @Jackofhearts2005

I set out this game to play nice. Work with the townies. Do my part. I put up with Mac gaslighting how I was bad my reads were bad my concern about letting the wolves get Bo's artifact was bad blah blah fucking blah. And you lot have blundered right along with the wolf. Jack with his "oh well sure maybe you did something towny but that could just be wifom" mindless fucking tunneling. Radishes with "gosh, serious, must be wolfing." Scotty with "gosh talks about his worthless "power of merchant" like he doesn't care if he dies. I don't have to worry about getting NKed because you towns with your halfbaked Timfoil are like a constant promise to just mischop me and not even need any help from the wolves.

Now here is a guy who has done something blatantly fucking wolfy. And not a fucking doubt in my mind you lot are gonna say "but gosh, feels towny, and y'know townies do wolfy things sometimes" and blithely continue chopping people who do towny things because of your daft fucking feelie reads and giving passes to people who do wolfy things because of your daft fucking feelie reads. At least Scotty has at least one excuse, he's out of practice. Everybody else needs to just get gud here. Or fucking lose. I honestly am beyond caring at this point.

By the way, I have used my role like a fucking master....Jack, by fucking lying my ass off, and here's the key to a good lie...keep it close to the truth. I am exactly the Imperial merchant. If somebody checked my race with your shriney powers you'd not be able to dispute it. I have never lied about what shrine I was at, so again no one can dispute it. I do collect money, and everything I have said about what I can do with it before today was made up whole fucking cloth but could never be checked...it was whatever I needed to keep the wolves off my back and my fellow townies who are apparently dumb as a box of hammers from killing me.

Because outing the one thing I could actually buy makes me a target...so I kept it hidden until today. Now you clowns have convinced me (along with my complete inability to guess what shrine you lot are gonna go to, and that's my bad) that I will never get enough to buy a second writ...but here's a news flash...the Morag Tong killed Mac because I FUCKING PAID THEM TO. I am the "charging up" vig. I'm the only towny that has done fucking thing one right until we blundered onto Falcon yesterday despite you baboons wanting to kill me instead. Piss on the lot of ye. Gavial's reads are fucking better.

I misread this post where Tim keeps talking about the town this and you townies that as basically claiming 3P.

And then Tim is like “my fellow townies.”

Bleeeeeeeeeh

A vig claim is not nearly as convincing as a 3P claim but I still kinda believe it short of a CC.

Gavil is a better name than Gavial.

One rhymes with Genry Cavil. The other sounds like a CW angel or demon.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 12:35 am why people go to the chaos shrine completely escapes me...but I haven't caught swamp fever from a mudcrab...maybe if I had this town would make more sense

My brain is very smooth.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 12:27 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 10:31 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:05 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:59 pm Team us Vulgard, Gavial, and Kyle. They don't know who the 3p is. I can see it all in Vulgard's posts today. Read them with that in mind... who he talks about, how he mentions them, etc. Side mentions with other players only, and focus on the other guy.
Sub Radishes for Vulgard and consider Vulgard a dupe...how does it look then?

I was hoping you at least would pick up on meeting me at Mehrunes Fagon's shrine so I hope you got something interesting from the night.
Tim not all that attached to his suspect list tho lol
Jack, the real question here is how, when LC can spit out a potential team and you can't really clear a single one of them, and I can spit out a potential team off the top of my head and you can't really clear a single one of them either, you "can't find a team without Tim on it."

I mean, I’m fully clearing one person from each and at the time at least townreading everyone LC threw out. Obviously, some shit has changed.

Gavil correctly iding Tim as 3P is tilting ngl

I started doing a trustfall but it was long and the important bits are like

Tony, Kyle, Daisy, Marmot - Strong reason to believe they’re town
Vulgard, Scotty, Gavil - Not as strong of reasons as I thought to say these players are town
LC, Monkey, Radishes - I don’t have much reason to townread these slots at all. Or suspect them. Yeesh.
Tim - Special case. Solve through CC or lack thereof

Man, I need to do a lotta back reading with essentially 3 flips (Tim, Nacho, Falcon) on people near the bottom of my readlist.

[VOTE: remove vote] aubergine

(Cause it’s super serious and I ain’t even joking about going no yeet)

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:54 am I’m having a crisis right now.
My tinfoil bells that I have currently hanging around my neck are going off (they’re converted cowbells don’t judge)
And it’s pulling me in this QAnon conspiracy that jack/Vulgard/Daisy are all bad.

Jack turned it up d3 and put a town hat on. That’s burley based on solving and tone.

Daisy has been mostly tone read as good. I feel like she put on her solvey boots like d4 tbh. Something a little different in her posts, less defensive. Dunno what that means. Could be more conviction? She mentioned in her scum games she’s never and could never vote for a teammate. Which...sounds like a poorly conceived meta to stand by. If falcon were to ask to he bussed in chat, why not just assuage the dying horse? And get towny credit for it?
Same goes for jack, who is the polar opposite of LC in that Tim is his ride or die to kill, where LC will defend Tim to the ends of middle earth.

Keep in mind that this is my current tinfoil.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen Daisy wolf so take this with a grain of salt.

Her salt felt real.

When Vulgard cased her, she immediately shot back with a huge pushback. I agree with what Vulgard said. A wolf flat isn’t ready with that answer for everything and raw emotion. That response comes from a townie.

Now, that is fakable if Vulgard is a wolf and they planned it out. Vulgard seems to be a very on point kinda player who could make that up and get Daisy to do it with him but in general, I still think Daisy’s response rings super true, down to bitching that people get tiwncred for casing her and then backing off immediately. I thought her tunnel on me felt really townie before Vulgard subbed in, too.

Also, I suspected Daisy in part because of her w/w looking interactions with Marmot (who I think is town) and Nacho (who flipped town). So those bits of my initial suspicion are entirely out the window.

Idk about Vulgard. With Tim being idk 80% likely the 3P at this point, I need to expand my POE. Like I said, I have a hard time making a 3 player wolf team without him. I have reasons to believe V is town. We’ll see how well they hold up on reeval.

The Miz is my spirit animal. Not supremely good at what he’s supposed to be doing but supremely good at what he does.

Also, my read on Tim was good because he isn’t town. I’m super good atg.

Also, the accusation that Vulgard is wolfy for attempting to fake a derpclear by not knowing how many wolves there are in spite of having done several isos and people saying it a lot is #fair.

I didn’t read the number of wolves in the setup. It was just said in thread a lot.

I want Tim to be telling the truth rather badly for a number of obvious reasons. It would fit in with several narratives. It would be funny. But especially it would allow me to start working with instead of against Tim.

Also, it’s really easy to verify if he’s telling the truth or not.

Everyone should explicitly CC or not CC Tim. If nobody CCs 3P, Tim is confirmed 3P and we can put all this to bed. If someone CCs, then we yeet Tim and if he flips 3P, we yeet the CCer tomorrow.

The only downside to this is if Tim is a wolf and the real 3P doesn’t CC. I think this is unlikely because with the current gamestate, claiming 3P and being believed probably means you probably coast to victory whereas a real unclaimed 3P is at risk of being nked or yeeted. It’s more the super corner case of a 3P being flat forbidden from claiming in his rolecard. Super corner case. Very unlikely. I’m okay losing in that scenario.

I am town, not 3P.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 10:53 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 10:49 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:41 pm
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:23 pm One thing concerns me. It's a 24er, so I expect six or seven nontown. We have two flipped nontown and 12 people alive, if my math isn't terrible.

In that case, we have four or five nontown alive with seven or eight town alive. My PoE is too small for this. Which is why I'm moving people out of my clear zone. People like Gavial and Marmot.

I don't know what to do with Tim at this point, plain and simple.
Really? It’s minor but I find it hard to believe you’re posting this, what with the very first line of the description of this game as 18 v 5 v 1.

This whole post reads like TMI
How is it tmi to get the setup wrong?

Isn’t that a (real or fake) derpclear, literally the opposite of tmi?
Honestly I would be willing to vote Vulgard here considering he had me as hard town when he entered and now wants to take it out of his list because others are growing suspicious of me despite my interaction with Mac should have been a clear TVS indication.
I also think Vulgard has good scum equity with Jack.

Like in insane world where I’m a wolf and Tim is a sk, this is a good read, too.

I’ve barely touched Enrique and been very high on Vulgard since their sub, just like a wolf who had one slank partner in a sea of slank townies and then a ringer sub comes in. There’s even a part where I was annoyed SSFlanders got a sub before Enrique (or Nacho? Whoever was low poster at the time. Doesn’t really matter).

Like...I think you’re town AND you’re capable of making sane reads.

I just need to figure out who to get you out of insane world where you can’t see that I’m just town from, well, everything but especially my EOD yesterday. I came in with this objective. Yeet Tim if possible. If not possible, prevent the yeet of suspected townreads (Marmot, Daisy, and to a lesser extent, Kyle, Vulgard, Tony, Gavil in about that order). So you can see where I came in with iirc about an hour to go and wagons are like Marmot (4), Tim (3), Falcon (3) and I throw a big fit and ping everybody on the Marmot wagon and everybody off wagon because I want Tim dead AND I want Marmot alive. The former fits into your insane world theory but the later does not because it meant that when I couldn’t get my way, I was always going to (and did) swap to Falcon and get everyone who had followed me to Tim to follow me to Falcon. Then you can see me being genuinely frustrated pre and post deadline but preflip because I was worried that I had just read Tony and Kyle wrong because I didn’t feel like they had given my Tim case a fair shake or that they’d just messed up. That all matches the perspective of a town Jack who does not know Falcon’s alignment, not wolf Jack who does know and is on a team with Falcon.

Sk roles are something I miss from HCRealms but they’re so hard to balance.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:21 pm Jack voting Tim again isn’t surprising considering Mafia had a Consig check on SK!Tim.

Tbf, if I was a wolf and there was a sk in the game and it was Tim and I knew it was Tim, I would absolutely be trying to yeet him.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:41 pm
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:23 pm One thing concerns me. It's a 24er, so I expect six or seven nontown. We have two flipped nontown and 12 people alive, if my math isn't terrible.

In that case, we have four or five nontown alive with seven or eight town alive. My PoE is too small for this. Which is why I'm moving people out of my clear zone. People like Gavial and Marmot.

I don't know what to do with Tim at this point, plain and simple.
Really? It’s minor but I find it hard to believe you’re posting this, what with the very first line of the description of this game as 18 v 5 v 1.

This whole post reads like TMI

How is it tmi to get the setup wrong?

Isn’t that a (real or fake) derpclear, literally the opposite of tmi?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:16 pm I was on Falcon because I did not want Tim to be yeeted. I switched it to Marmot because it looked like things were going that way, then I had to go and do dinner with the family and I'm glad that the falcon thing went through.

Can you summarize your reasoning for suspecting both Falcon and Marmot and for townreading Tim?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:13 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:09 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:07 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:03 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:51 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:49 pm

idk if it's cool or not but I found out some stuffs. idk what it means or not means tho.
Yeah, cool cool. Me too

You know what would be nice? Figuring out how learning someone’s race means anything.
Catch them in a lie? Like after all my claims to being the merchant if you found out I was not an Imperial you'd have a genuine reason to vote me instead of whatever conf bias nonsense you are feeding on currently.

I'm gonna say this one more time because it is so damn frustrating. When the wagons were me and Falcon and I was already well ahead WTF makes you think I, as a wolf, would pile on Falcon and fight my ass off instead of just laying down and eating the chop there? Ask Jack...in what fucking world am I that bad of a wolf?
You didn’t need to pile on falcon. When you switched to marmot it was a 3-3-3 tie, was it not? Then when falcon took the lead by 2, you didn’t need to move. I mean, you could have, and my opinion might have swung either way saying “well he bussed him” or “he’s town”.

You didn’t bus him, because he was a good mafia role.
I switched to Marmot FROM Falcon. I piled on Falcon behind Vulgard and MADE HIM A WAGON. Why, as a wolf do I do that?
Tit for tat- why leave falcon?
Because I thought when Vulgard and Radishes abandoned their cases on Falcon and voted me instead that I was being set up. I never made a case on Falcon, I just sheeped theirs. "Yeah I am sheeping these guys on Falcon and oh yeah both of them are voting me" is a stupid position, so I got out of it. I could at least push Marmot with my own case.

I still think there were two wolf wagons there and i wasn't one of them, by the way.

This is a fair perspective for a townie in general.

This is not a fair perspective for someone who wants credit for having yeeted a wolf he wasn’t voting for when he was only sheeping someone else’s case anyhow.

Tim’s just a wolf, ya’ll.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:09 pm Enter Jack saying "for the WIFOM...sure anyone but Tim I buy that, but always chop Tim no matter what."

I would buy the aforementioned argument from literally nobody.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:07 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:03 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:51 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:49 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:45 pm Anyone do anything cool last night? I’m beginning to think that my temples are pretty awful and useless
idk if it's cool or not but I found out some stuffs. idk what it means or not means tho.
Yeah, cool cool. Me too

You know what would be nice? Figuring out how learning someone’s race means anything.
Catch them in a lie? Like after all my claims to being the merchant if you found out I was not an Imperial you'd have a genuine reason to vote me instead of whatever conf bias nonsense you are feeding on currently.

I'm gonna say this one more time because it is so damn frustrating. When the wagons were me and Falcon and I was already well ahead WTF makes you think I, as a wolf, would pile on Falcon and fight my ass off instead of just laying down and eating the chop there? Ask Jack...in what fucking world am I that bad of a wolf?
You didn’t need to pile on falcon. When you switched to marmot it was a 3-3-3 tie, was it not? Then when falcon took the lead by 2, you didn’t need to move. I mean, you could have, and my opinion might have swung either way saying “well he bussed him” or “he’s town”.

You didn’t bus him, because he was a good mafia role.
I switched to Marmot FROM Falcon. I piled on Falcon behind Vulgard and MADE HIM A WAGON. Why, as a wolf do I do that?

Distancing?

Also like here’s a thing. As a wolf, I do things just to make people say “why did Jack do X if he’s a wolf?”

So the statement that moves me is never “Player doesn’t need to do X if they’re a wolf” or “there’s no motivation for Player to do X as a wolf” but rather “here’s the reason Player would not do X as a wolf.”

Wolves are allowed to place second votes on a partner and then abandon the wagon nearer to EOD. Like that is a thing that wolves are perfectly capable of doing and you know it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:07 pm Me leading town has gotten nowhere. I feel exasperatingly rusty from my multi year hiatus and hate where we are right now

patpat

We’re not in a terrible place.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:05 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:59 pm Team us Vulgard, Gavial, and Kyle. They don't know who the 3p is. I can see it all in Vulgard's posts today. Read them with that in mind... who he talks about, how he mentions them, etc. Side mentions with other players only, and focus on the other guy.
Sub Radishes for Vulgard and consider Vulgard a dupe...how does it look then?

I was hoping you at least would pick up on meeting me at Mehrunes Fagon's shrine so I hope you got something interesting from the night.

Tim not all that attached to his suspect list tho lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:59 pm Team us Vulgard, Gavial, and Kyle. They don't know who the 3p is. I can see it all in Vulgard's posts today. Read them with that in mind... who he talks about, how he mentions them, etc. Side mentions with other players only, and focus on the other guy.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:02 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:55 pm I have a very hard time making a 3 player wolfteam without Tim even if I had no reason to suspect him and I feel like I have a fair bit.

Same goes for LC only I don’t have a lot of specific reason to suspect LC.
Radish, Marmot, Lost Monkey...from my POV an easy possibility that you should be able to immediately think "hmmm, could be" about...without even having to dismiss obvious facts with "well, wolf Tim could do just anything so I never clear him ever."

No overlap and they don’t suspect each other.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:45 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:37 pm Like I didn’t see a Tim fighting his ass off to get Falcon chopped. Not even close. I saw a Tim hoping Tim would run out and a Marmot yeet would go through.
Stick a lens in your belly button and look again.

Spoiler: show
I know that was rude but I think it was hilarious and you're tough enough to take it as humor not personal

There’s a sex joke in there somewhere about be putting a lens in my belly button to find your ass.

I got nothin.

For a min, I thought I had bought tortilla chips without there being any salsa in the house. Phew.

Like I didn’t see a Tim fighting his ass off to get Falcon chopped. Not even close. I saw a Tim hoping Tim would run out and a Marmot yeet would go through.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:51 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:49 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:45 pm Anyone do anything cool last night? I’m beginning to think that my temples are pretty awful and useless
idk if it's cool or not but I found out some stuffs. idk what it means or not means tho.
Yeah, cool cool. Me too

You know what would be nice? Figuring out how learning someone’s race means anything.
Catch them in a lie? Like after all my claims to being the merchant if you found out I was not an Imperial you'd have a genuine reason to vote me instead of whatever conf bias nonsense you are feeding on currently.

I'm gonna say this one more time because it is so damn frustrating. When the wagons were me and Falcon and I was already well ahead WTF makes you think I, as a wolf, would pile on Falcon and fight my ass off instead of just laying down and eating the chop there? Ask Jack...in what fucking world am I that bad of a wolf?

You didn’t pile on Falcon and even if you had, bussing is a thing.

I’m super unconvinced.

I have a very hard time making a 3 player wolfteam without Tim even if I had no reason to suspect him and I feel like I have a fair bit.

Same goes for LC only I don’t have a lot of specific reason to suspect LC.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:26 pm My priorities for today are to:

- resolve DaisyCloud. I don't want to rely on one post to clear her.
- verify Gavial.
- discuss.

Kylemii and Marmot exist in that strange limbo where I townread some of their play. Sometimes across many days. But when I compare that to people like Scotty, Jack and MR, they don't hold up.

And yes, I do trust Radishes at this point, still. I'm keeping it in mind that he didn't contribute that much yesterday. He wanted to kill Tim, but unless Tim's a wolf, I can't give him credit for it - even though I pushed Tim too.

I’m like 90% sure Kyle is town.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:33 pm Btw, there was a wolf at Hircine's shrine.

Useless info to me but maybe that translates to a cop for someone else.
Man, I wished you had done the LC thing and asked where everyone went first.

Meh. Wolves could just lie. Plus maybe wolves used a similar power and I don’t want to just give them a razor kill by accidentally having a townie claim their artifact.

[VOTE: Tim] aubergine

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