Meh, I can see your perspective, but I think scum!Rico town!Lime is more likely. Minimally though, Rico/Lime not w/w since Lime kinda sheeping me and not independently pushing Rico will give me more towncred than Lime for a Rico-flip, so it doesn't really make sense as a bus.
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Alright so here's how we do this.
Town:
Tutuu
Jayjayy
WhopWhoop (Porscha)
Sean...Seanzie
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Part of me wants to try to culminate and try to sponge townreads from part of my towncore, so hopefully I can get those from certain people?
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I don't really understand why people think I'm polarized. Sometimes if I am very busy I don't have good wolf games, but I have also crushed it quite a few times and have the win record to prove it.tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:19 pmSean claimed godread. Thats enoughJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:12 pm I'm mostly on board with tutuu's reads. I am less confident in Porscha, but I'll see how I feel on review.
Hed never been wrong on a godread on porscha look at his confidence
Does wolf sean have the balls to do it on a wolf buddy? No he doesn't. Wolf sean is scared to post lmao
Porscha easy town
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Belbeel what is your total viewpoint of the game so far? Like reads that you're most confident on and could provide explanations for if you can.
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Porscha ISO
Porscha's entry to the game seemed a bit off to me, primarily for her exchange with me. "I voted you btw" followed by chummy joking when I asked about it felt awkward.
This is slightly better. It's not much, but at least it presents a capacity for moving the game.
I forgot about this. If true, it might render some of my previous thoughts meaningless. Porscha could you please indicate about where you started posting with knowledge of your role?
Porscha went after tutuu with some fervor. The spirit of the accusations looks okay even if I don't agree with the premise. This is probably the first sliver of the energized Porscha sass I expect to see from her as town.
I had noted earlier that Porscha's non-tutuu reads were still limited, and I asked her to give some. She responded with "Scotty was kinda towny", which provides a backdrop for the above declination of the Scotty wagon. Consistency is simple, but at least there's some kind of path leading here.
This is a significant reversal, and I don't really know what brought it on. I think I like it anyway, as it is difficult to assign a "mafia agenda" to Porscha swapping her strongest read in this fashion. Folks are allowed to reconsider their reads. It'd still be ideal for Porscha to expand on what she found towny in this moment.
Separate note: it appears Porscha ended Day 1 without a vote in the poll. That's weird.
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It's a mixed bag overall. My mental impression of Porscha was of someone just kind of existing in the game, and I think she is at least better than that. There are some good things in here. I'd be more comfortable with greater clarity on the tutuu reversal and why no Day 1 vote.
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Porscha's entry to the game seemed a bit off to me, primarily for her exchange with me. "I voted you btw" followed by chummy joking when I asked about it felt awkward.
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This is slightly better. It's not much, but at least it presents a capacity for moving the game.
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I forgot about this. If true, it might render some of my previous thoughts meaningless. Porscha could you please indicate about where you started posting with knowledge of your role?
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Porscha went after tutuu with some fervor. The spirit of the accusations looks okay even if I don't agree with the premise. This is probably the first sliver of the energized Porscha sass I expect to see from her as town.
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I had noted earlier that Porscha's non-tutuu reads were still limited, and I asked her to give some. She responded with "Scotty was kinda towny", which provides a backdrop for the above declination of the Scotty wagon. Consistency is simple, but at least there's some kind of path leading here.
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This is a significant reversal, and I don't really know what brought it on. I think I like it anyway, as it is difficult to assign a "mafia agenda" to Porscha swapping her strongest read in this fashion. Folks are allowed to reconsider their reads. It'd still be ideal for Porscha to expand on what she found towny in this moment.
Separate note: it appears Porscha ended Day 1 without a vote in the poll. That's weird.
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It's a mixed bag overall. My mental impression of Porscha was of someone just kind of existing in the game, and I think she is at least better than that. There are some good things in here. I'd be more comfortable with greater clarity on the tutuu reversal and why no Day 1 vote.
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Does JJJ do ISOs as town?
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[VOTE: Creatur] aubergineJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 4:09 pm falcon45ca ISO
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In isolation this read is friovolous, though I might credit falcon a bit when I extend it to more recent history when he expressed some vague misgivings about me. That'd suggest an active process exists.
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Not super thrilled with this, as the "Creature zero posts as mafia" trope is pretty dated and untrue. Technically this can apply to tutuu as well, though the tagalong vote is what pings me.
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I said before that I don't associate falcon with easy town reads, so this is a bit jarring. "I town read you, because you also didn't know about the game/your role card" is hard to take seriously.
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First mention of Scotty is a vote, other than [sort of] this irrelevant thing. This was a few hours prior to EOD, and falcon's last post of Day 1. It came immediately after Wilgy sussed Scotty, and it represents the second-such moment (paralleling his vote for Creature after tutuu griped). It'd be a brazen form of wave-riding, but I don't town read it.
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I don't think falcon looks awful as I kind of thought he might. Nonetheless I have gripes, primarily about the frivolity of his reads/votes, and he remains in my POE pool.
If this is true that creature hates playing mafia it obvious that he don't want to write here so much.
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Why did you decide to do them this game?
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LMAOOO U GUYS
belzy has to be town for this right?
but im wary coz too many townreads
belzy has to be town for this right?
but im wary coz too many townreads
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probably not towny for belzy. maybe i was just so amused that i associated the positive feeling of amusement with the positive feeling of finding a townread
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I was kidding. I am well-known for wallposting, ISOing, interactive analysing, and all the other ings.
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Okay then.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:57 pmI was kidding. I am well-known for wallposting, ISOing, interactive analysing, and all the other ings.
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See, now he's trying to fool you. Do not listen to the JJJ'S words.
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[VOTE:
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Its 1 am. Goodnight and stuff.
Its 1 am. Goodnight and stuff.
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I think people were just kidding, not really trying to be dishonest.
In the Cindy Kate/ Percy crossover game you were in, Jay was town in it and did big ISOs like this. I know you died early in that game so might not remember, but that's an example.
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belzy looking towny to me i cant shake it off
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Porscha
tutuu
JaggedJimmyJay
falcon45ca
Lime Coke
die_meatbaby
MartinGG99
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DrWilgy
RondoDimBuckle
motobot
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Rondo, Moto and Creature have all been pretty meh today. Meatbaby has as well, but I felt good enough about them D1 that they're still north of null.
I should probably ISO Zenon. I know Belzy was scumreading them, so doing so might help me sort both of them. However... that will have to wait until later because I have plans tonight.
tutuu
JaggedJimmyJay
falcon45ca
Lime Coke
die_meatbaby
MartinGG99
Zenon
Belzy
DrWilgy
RondoDimBuckle
motobot
Creature
Ricochet
Rondo, Moto and Creature have all been pretty meh today. Meatbaby has as well, but I felt good enough about them D1 that they're still north of null.
I should probably ISO Zenon. I know Belzy was scumreading them, so doing so might help me sort both of them. However... that will have to wait until later because I have plans tonight.
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I've been playing (or "interacting" with) some stuff on the Neal.Fun website, as a few days ago it had its ridiculous password creation game go apparently viral which I learned about today. One of the other games it has is the Absurd Trolly Problems, and I got through it with 58 people killed (yay?). The site has some other interesting stuff too that aren't necessarily games.
Aside from that, it seems Rondo is unable to post. Guy has not appeared today at all. In case someone hasn't noticed already.
I'm thinking about doing a re-evaluation / in-depth reads list of (almost) everyone individually because 15 players is feeling smaller than it should be. Something to re-orient my head with and maybe figure something of a world-build (most likely saying X wolves among XYZ or something of the sort, I don't have specific ideas in mind yet).
Aside from that, it seems Rondo is unable to post. Guy has not appeared today at all. In case someone hasn't noticed already.
I'm thinking about doing a re-evaluation / in-depth reads list of (almost) everyone individually because 15 players is feeling smaller than it should be. Something to re-orient my head with and maybe figure something of a world-build (most likely saying X wolves among XYZ or something of the sort, I don't have specific ideas in mind yet).
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If that's the case, I retract what I said about Rondo being meh. I'm not sure what to think if they were both removed from the poll and can't post, so they can stay purple.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:17 pm I've been playing (or "interacting" with) some stuff on the Neal.Fun website, as a few days ago it had its ridiculous password creation game go apparently viral which I learned about today. One of the other games it has is the Absurd Trolly Problems, and I got through it with 58 people killed (yay?). The site has some other interesting stuff too that aren't necessarily games.
Aside from that, it seems Rondo is unable to post. Guy has not appeared today at all. In case someone hasn't noticed already.
I'm thinking about doing a re-evaluation / in-depth reads list of (almost) everyone individually because 15 players is feeling smaller than it should be. Something to re-orient my head with and maybe figure something of a world-build (most likely saying X wolves among XYZ or something of the sort, I don't have specific ideas in mind yet).
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It seems I also struggle with my town games on this sitedie_meatbaby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:28 pm[VOTE: Creatur] aubergineJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 4:09 pm falcon45ca ISO
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In isolation this read is friovolous, though I might credit falcon a bit when I extend it to more recent history when he expressed some vague misgivings about me. That'd suggest an active process exists.
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Not super thrilled with this, as the "Creature zero posts as mafia" trope is pretty dated and untrue. Technically this can apply to tutuu as well, though the tagalong vote is what pings me.
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I said before that I don't associate falcon with easy town reads, so this is a bit jarring. "I town read you, because you also didn't know about the game/your role card" is hard to take seriously.
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First mention of Scotty is a vote, other than [sort of] this irrelevant thing. This was a few hours prior to EOD, and falcon's last post of Day 1. It came immediately after Wilgy sussed Scotty, and it represents the second-such moment (paralleling his vote for Creature after tutuu griped). It'd be a brazen form of wave-riding, but I don't town read it.
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I don't think falcon looks awful as I kind of thought he might. Nonetheless I have gripes, primarily about the frivolity of his reads/votes, and he remains in my POE pool.
If this is true that creature hates playing mafia it obvious that he don't want to write here so much.
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I just realized how badly I choose colors here. The group with Zenon/Belzy/Wilgy/Rondo is null. Groups above are supposed to be bluer.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:14 pm Porscha
tutuu
JaggedJimmyJay
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Lime Coke
die_meatbaby
MartinGG99
Zenon
Belzy
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RondoDimBuckle
motobot
Creature
Ricochet
Rondo, Moto and Creature have all been pretty meh today. Meatbaby has as well, but I felt good enough about them D1 that they're still north of null.
I should probably ISO Zenon. I know Belzy was scumreading them, so doing so might help me sort both of them. However... that will have to wait until later because I have plans tonight.
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Pretty hard to find the motivation
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Come to think of it, he hasn't voted in the poll either.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:48 pmIf that's the case, I retract what I said about Rondo being meh. I'm not sure what to think if they were both removed from the poll and can't post, so they can stay purple.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:17 pm I've been playing (or "interacting" with) some stuff on the Neal.Fun website, as a few days ago it had its ridiculous password creation game go apparently viral which I learned about today. One of the other games it has is the Absurd Trolly Problems, and I got through it with 58 people killed (yay?). The site has some other interesting stuff too that aren't necessarily games.
Aside from that, it seems Rondo is unable to post. Guy has not appeared today at all. In case someone hasn't noticed already.
I'm thinking about doing a re-evaluation / in-depth reads list of (almost) everyone individually because 15 players is feeling smaller than it should be. Something to re-orient my head with and maybe figure something of a world-build (most likely saying X wolves among XYZ or something of the sort, I don't have specific ideas in mind yet).
Could possibly be an extreme case of IRL shenanigans or whatever, as that is quite the combo of mechanics to exist in (I'm presuming combo since I haven't been banned from posting yet have been removed from pool), but on my impression of Rondo and who he is I don't think he would be one to forget about the game for more than 24 hours or whatever.
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I was trying to find a specific "let me google that for you" website where Google does the barrel roll and then pretend that's a back-flip by Google.
But it seems those sites have changed?
Sidenote I've gone through about three ISOs so far. Had to stop a bit already because I totally and absolutely did not forget that I had something to do at 8pm earlier that I just did.
But it seems those sites have changed?
Sidenote I've gone through about three ISOs so far. Had to stop a bit already because I totally and absolutely did not forget that I had something to do at 8pm earlier that I just did.
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(8 pm in my time would be almost exactly an hour ago)
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Who did you ISO? Any cliffnotes? (I assume we'll hear more after you do the thing you have to do)MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:02 pm I was trying to find a specific "let me google that for you" website where Google does the barrel roll and then pretend that's a back-flip by Google.
But it seems those sites have changed?
Sidenote I've gone through about three ISOs so far. Had to stop a bit already because I totally and absolutely did not forget that I had something to do at 8pm earlier that I just did.
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Oh no I've already done the thing I needed to do. It was the really simple (but very important) task of panicking and then the less-important task of opening a thread. Host stuff, which was in the works before I even signed up for this game. I won't discuss it in the future though as then there'll be stuff I have to process as a host and so in theory by even talking about it I would be risking or breaching some sort of integrity.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:06 pmWho did you ISO? Any cliffnotes? (I assume we'll hear more after you do the thing you have to do)MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:02 pm I was trying to find a specific "let me google that for you" website where Google does the barrel roll and then pretend that's a back-flip by Google.
But it seems those sites have changed?
Sidenote I've gone through about three ISOs so far. Had to stop a bit already because I totally and absolutely did not forget that I had something to do at 8pm earlier that I just did.
But w.r.t my mass iso/re-eval of just about everyone I decided to go alphabetical and so that means I'm largely done with Belzy, Creature, DrWilgy and am starting on JJJ now. First one has a bit of a jank tone at times but objectively I don't find any issue with their gameplay. Second I'm holding to a lower level but I found something to ask them about. Third I don't really approve of because of their behavior (or more specifically presence) in the hours prior to EoD and their handling of me at that time. That's what the cliffnotes are.
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Come to think of it I guess I could ask it now. I was just being weirdly stubborn about getting all those ISOs done and then asking it.
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Why would Seanzie fake this? What about it looks good to you that a wolf Seanzie might reasonably fake it for? Give specifics instead of broad answers please.Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:51 pmIs this worth townreading Seanzie for? Or can he fake that as wolf?Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:28 pmYou're going to have to elaborate on this. Creature's ISO looks like they've just been complaining about being suspected for not being in the game early, and then naked voting people and pushing me for not being in the game early, and then dipping for the entire second half of the day.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:55 pm Seanzie’s arrival to the game kind of mirrors Creature’s, and I like it in both cases.
How does this mirror me at all?
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It looked like genuine indignation. I asked if this is an alright reason to townread Seanzie or it's something he can easily fake as wolf.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:19 pm Come to think of it I guess I could ask it now. I was just being weirdly stubborn about getting all those ISOs done and then asking it.
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Why would Seanzie fake this? What about it looks good to you that a wolf Seanzie might reasonably fake it for? Give specifics instead of broad answers please.Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:51 pmIs this worth townreading Seanzie for? Or can he fake that as wolf?Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:28 pmYou're going to have to elaborate on this. Creature's ISO looks like they've just been complaining about being suspected for not being in the game early, and then naked voting people and pushing me for not being in the game early, and then dipping for the entire second half of the day.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:55 pm Seanzie’s arrival to the game kind of mirrors Creature’s, and I like it in both cases.
How does this mirror me at all?
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I'm in the middle of the JJJ iso talking about how he handles Rondo, but its going into a bit of depth and I need to take a 1 hour break to do some minor IRL things (eat food and other stuff). I think when I'm done writing it I'll have a fairly good opinion of JJJ, but its rather nuanced because I don't think less-nuanced reads are something you can be safely confident in when JJJ is one of the most respected and skilled players known (and I don't really know his wolf game). So I may have a slightly different opinion when I've written out all my arguments about it.
I'll be back at it soon.
I'll be back at it soon.
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 2]
I can see that, although given the circumstances that may have been too easy to fake.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:00 pmIt looked like genuine indignation. I asked if this is an alright reason to townread Seanzie or it's something he can easily fake as wolf.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:19 pm Come to think of it I guess I could ask it now. I was just being weirdly stubborn about getting all those ISOs done and then asking it.
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Why would Seanzie fake this? What about it looks good to you that a wolf Seanzie might reasonably fake it for? Give specifics instead of broad answers please.Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:51 pmIs this worth townreading Seanzie for? Or can he fake that as wolf?Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:28 pmYou're going to have to elaborate on this. Creature's ISO looks like they've just been complaining about being suspected for not being in the game early, and then naked voting people and pushing me for not being in the game early, and then dipping for the entire second half of the day.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:55 pm Seanzie’s arrival to the game kind of mirrors Creature’s, and I like it in both cases.
How does this mirror me at all?
That isn't to say I think seanzie is wolf, or that I find his post wolfy. I haven't gotten to him in my re-eval yet (and probably won't be for a few hours since I'm doing my ISO thingies alphabetically). But I do think a wolf seanzie could identify the discrepancy and act or appear indignified.
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 1]
well that all depends on if I think rico would flip mafia and you wouldn't, doesnt itLime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:56 pmDoes it really matter though if this is right and Rico ends up flipping mafia? Especially when I was voting there most of Day 1, annnnd the rest of town decided to build Vivax vs Scotty wagons?Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:54 pmLMAO OKAY SOOO my point stands!Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:53 pmNah Seanzie said it first but I was voting Rico after all of that.Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:50 pmSo... did you say it first?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:48 pmNah I had this read myself but Seanzie kind of explained it a bit better than I can.Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:42 pmYou wouldn't sheep sean on a rico read for your own benefit would youLime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:28 pm@JaggedJimmyJaySpoiler: show
My reasoning for voting Ricochet when it got later on Day 1, was because of this post.
Felt like it was scummy just because it was basically like what Seanzie said. Too much commentary on random things, not really applying reads on most of the slots in the game after the "analysis"?
You wouldnt download a car, would you
like it's just a hypothetical world, I don't know what will happen
this just feels like a weird deflection to get me off your back. Like I wouldn't stop you from trying to solve by suggesting your entire line of thinking is pointless if rico flips town, and now that i'm thinking about it, it sort of just reeks of tmi that you are suggesting that to me with no suspicion of me too
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 2]
I’m going to be away this evening, but I should be around tomorrow.
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 2]
I think it's a really easy way for a wolf to sponge a read and then start claiming it as their own, just like lc tried to doSeanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:03 pmMeh, I can see your perspective, but I think scum!Rico town!Lime is more likely. Minimally though, Rico/Lime not w/w since Lime kinda sheeping me and not independently pushing Rico will give me more towncred than Lime for a Rico-flip, so it doesn't really make sense as a bus.
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