Fallout New Vegas: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [LEGION CONQUEST]

[Dunnstral]

Because they can possess the role "citizen" of which only 1 player has flipped with so far. Falcon can't be a citizen because they were caught visiting.

[Scotty]

(Coming from the guy that comes out today making accusations and leading the thread)

Oh, are you leading the thread?

I’m sure throwing a lot of shit at the wall in a short period of time, aren’t I?

I know, I know, leadings a tough job, but someone has to do it

If you think I’m teammates with Long Con, you haven’t been paying attention.

Really? This is the direction you’re going today?

Is that what that meant? Hard bussing from the get-go for us this time, I guess.

That’s how I interpret it. The unfortunate aspect of Epi cosplaying as an inanimate object is I can interpret anything and all he can do is be a surly sign.

[Long Con]

He needs to be putting more concise and specific information on his signs. His language skills are strong and he can figure out efficient ways to convey more complex thoughts about the game. Also, let's see more signs, more interactively

[Scotty]

Because they can possess the role "citizen" of which only 1 player has flipped with so far. Falcon can't be a citizen because they were caught visiting.

Sorry, I really feel like I’m missing something here and need clarification or at least for you to break down something.

What is a citizen? How is that different from civilian?

[Long Con]

Vanilla

[Scotty]

He needs to be putting more concise and specific information on his signs. His language skills are strong and he can figure out efficient ways to convey more complex thoughts about the game. Also, let's see more signs, more interactively

^Blink and you’ll miss Epi

[Epignosis]

(Coming from the guy that comes out today making accusations and leading the thread)

Oh, are you leading the thread?

I’m sure throwing a lot of shit at the wall in a short period of time, aren’t I?

I know, I know, leadings a tough job, but someone has to do it

If you think I’m teammates with Long Con, you haven’t been paying attention.

Really? This is the direction you’re going today?

Is that what that meant? Hard bussing from the get-go for us this time, I guess.

That’s how I interpret it. The unfortunate aspect of Epi cosplaying as an inanimate object is I can interpret anything and all he can do is be a surly sign.

[Dunnstral]

Because they can possess the role "citizen" of which only 1 player has flipped with so far. Falcon can't be a citizen because they were caught visiting.

Sorry, I really feel like I’m missing something here and need clarification or at least for you to break down something.

What is a citizen? How is that different from civilian?

I mean the Vanilla town role

[Scotty]

Vanilla

Ah ok, I understand!

That does all point to falcon/manny being more likely to not be civ. And if they ARENT, then we’re most likely working with 4 mafia to compensate for all these PRs

[Epignosis]

He needs to be putting more concise and specific information on his signs. His language skills are strong and he can figure out efficient ways to convey more complex thoughts about the game. Also, let's see more signs, more interactively

[Scotty]

Oh, are you leading the thread?

I’m sure throwing a lot of shit at the wall in a short period of time, aren’t I?

I know, I know, leadings a tough job, but someone has to do it

If you think I’m teammates with Long Con, you haven’t been paying attention.

Really? This is the direction you’re going today?

Is that what that meant? Hard bussing from the get-go for us this time, I guess.

That’s how I interpret it. The unfortunate aspect of Epi cosplaying as an inanimate object is I can interpret anything and all he can do is be a surly sign.

See, here he’s saying he got a booboo on his finger and he needs me to kiss it to make it better.

Not today, Billbo

[Long Con]

Looks kind of like a middle finger on my phone screen.

[Long Con]

Wait it is a middle finger

[Scotty]

Ok, will check back later, gotta go.

Glad I could have helped absolutely no one since I’ve been here :/

[Long Con]

Epi, If we are Wolf together, then my case against Scotty was fake. Maybe have another look, because I don't feel like it looks fake at all.

[Epignosis]

[MacDougall]

My thoughts are that I want to burn Chelsea/Brad/Manny with authority.

Scotty's 3p obsession just makes me think he is one.

I'm alive. Yay. Who cares. I've lived to d3 as town in more games than I haven't.

Brad/Chelsea are a pseudo masonry and the mafia do not seem to care. The only people that have been opposed to them are me and the dead.

Manny would not have claimed as town under no pressure for fear of anticlaim. No fear of anticlaim equals mafia.

Falcon actually is just rand and not actually wolfy really. No self pres.

Dunnstral and Lanmisa are billboard townies.

Everyone else is like lean town but with no confidence.

[MacDougall]

Epi is obviously town imo.

Just like Nanook was.

They are not players in this game with mafia wincons. This game has wolves controlling things. No wolves dead d3.

Follow the dead towns reads.

[Long Con]

Manny would not have claimed as town under no pressure for fear of anticlaim. No fear of anticlaim equals mafia.

What do you mean by 'anticlaim'?

[MacDougall]

Manny would not have claimed as town under no pressure for fear of anticlaim. No fear of anticlaim equals mafia.

What do you mean by 'anticlaim'?

Mafia will be able to kill people who claim. It's standard fare for role madness. Surely you've seen anticlaim?

[Long Con]

But the Mafia doesn't have any secret parts, do they?

[MacDougall]

But the Mafia doesn't have any secret parts, do they?

There is nowhere it speaks to factional kills either so going by your logic they don't have factionals.

[Long Con]

But the Mafia doesn't have any secret parts, do they?

There is nowhere it speaks to factional kills either so going by your logic they don't have factionals.

Let's go more with "by my logic, town!Manny would not have made decisions based on fear of anticlaim", and not get too into the weeds about important game factors the host might have made black box secret.

[MacDougall]

But the Mafia doesn't have any secret parts, do they?

There is nowhere it speaks to factional kills either so going by your logic they don't have factionals.

Let's go more with "by my logic, town!Manny would not have made decisions based on fear of anticlaim", and not get too into the weeds about important game factors the host might have made black box secret.

Nobody hard claims their very important town PR role under zero pressure in a game with plausible anti claim or even really at all. Manny as a supposed town watcher even with 1 allocation exhausted of his PR is still a major threat to mafia that they saw fit to allow to target again.

Watch as he claims to have been roleblocked and survives.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Apologies, I forgot to post this at day start. Your post caps for Day 3 are this number plus 100, with the exception of the following players (who've already posted today, so I have counted myself). Their caps are as follows:

@Dunnstral - cap 180
@Long Con - cap 202
@Scotty - cap 255
@TonyStarkPrime - cap 127
@Epignosis - cap 126
@MacDougall - cap 257

[Scotty]

Mac with a lot of good points. I just want to townread that.

Also enlightening that at this point, we *should* be looking at the top posters and besides my spam ass, I’m surprised to see Lime Coke there.

I mean, pull my leg [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

[TonyStarkPrime]

I mean a factional is implicitly granted by rule 4

[TonyStarkPrime]

Damn there’s no reason to think there’s anti-spew and Mac is saying everything I ought to be thinking and it’s just so scary to me

[TonyStarkPrime]

Like is it all an elaborate hoax? Is that in Mac’s range?

[Lime Coke]

Mac with a lot of good points. I just want to townread that.

Also enlightening that at this point, we *should* be looking at the top posters and besides my spam ass, I’m surprised to see Lime Coke there.

I mean, pull my leg [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Me being top poster is a towntell for me. I couldn't do that shit on my best day as a wolf.

[Scotty]

Mac with a lot of good points. I just want to townread that.

Also enlightening that at this point, we *should* be looking at the top posters and besides my spam ass, I’m surprised to see Lime Coke there.

I mean, pull my leg [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Me being top poster is a towntell for me. I couldn't do that shit on my best day as a wolf.

My feeling is if you know of your meta, you can make strides to change your meta.

So I’ll throw it back to you then- who’s bad?

[Lime Coke]

Mac with a lot of good points. I just want to townread that.

Also enlightening that at this point, we *should* be looking at the top posters and besides my spam ass, I’m surprised to see Lime Coke there.

I mean, pull my leg [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Me being top poster is a towntell for me. I couldn't do that shit on my best day as a wolf.

My feeling is if you know of your meta, you can make strides to change your meta.

So I’ll throw it back to you then- who’s bad?

I mean if I spam like hell as mafia I feel like my posts would be significantly worse.

One sec.

[MacDougall]

Lime Coke why do you think Chelsea is town still? She's not out of her wolfrange and I've felt she's been off all game but you've had a locked in townread on her and doing your usual shtick in that regard. Can you actually articulate why you think she's town in a way you think I can comprehend.

I can see a world where the 3 of us are town being the reason I'm not dead but I'm not sure that any mafia team would be content with a high posting Lime Coke with a Chelsea shaped shield and doing nothing about it.

[MacDougall]

Like is it all an elaborate hoax? Is that in Mac’s range?

What are you even talking about? You sound deranged. Who are you talking to? Why are you acting like you care about the game all of a sudden when you've hardly done anything lol.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Manny] aubergine

[Lime Coke]

Town Core

Mac
Lan
Chelsea
Scotty

Yeppers

Thread needs to be less dead

I mean, it's early morning in Europe, the Americans are asleep and we have quite a few low-posters, including a non-poster.

Any thoughts on the game that differ a lot from your earlier reads list? Something you want to discuss? Or do you have something to help me figure out the players I am unsure of as of now?

Imagine sleeping

I'm an American but I work 3rds so I'm lonely lol

Uh my reads haven't changed much except I'd probably town core Long Con now

Also my top town are Lan and Long Con

That means that despite my mistrust in Scotty I should follow Lan's read on him because he sees something I don't see.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine
Mainly because now I don't want Sean chopped

Manny still feels like a low motivated wolf and his wagon doesn't grow which is concerning.
But maybe it's because people are not active?
Hard to tell.

Good forrrr...

Lan, Long Con, Scotty a bit since that was a sheep.

Bad for Man.

[MacDougall]

I will reiterate that Manny hard claiming under the pressure he was (ie. none) is very likely just a wolf given the town roles area mix of provided fake claims and real ones, he is still alive and showed no fear of anticlaim in the process.

[MacDougall]

Town Core

Mac
Lan
Chelsea
Scotty

Yeppers

Thread needs to be less dead

I mean, it's early morning in Europe, the Americans are asleep and we have quite a few low-posters, including a non-poster.

Any thoughts on the game that differ a lot from your earlier reads list? Something you want to discuss? Or do you have something to help me figure out the players I am unsure of as of now?

Imagine sleeping

I'm an American but I work 3rds so I'm lonely lol

Uh my reads haven't changed much except I'd probably town core Long Con now

Also my top town are Lan and Long Con

That means that despite my mistrust in Scotty I should follow Lan's read on him because he sees something I don't see.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine
Mainly because now I don't want Sean chopped

Manny still feels like a low motivated wolf and his wagon doesn't grow which is concerning.
But maybe it's because people are not active?
Hard to tell.

Good forrrr...

Lan, Long Con, Scotty a bit since that was a sheep.

Bad for Man.

Not good for me or Chelsea though? Why pull that first quote if you aren't referencing the list?

[MacDougall]

Seanzie would you be against killing Mac? Dude is doing nothing but going after my townreads and I and if I'm right on who I'm shielding then he's just wolfsiding.

I got very strong town vibes from Mac earlier, and the things I've seen people point out about him as reasons to scumread him I think are NAI at worst for him. So yes, I would be against killing Mac.

My reads are also pretty opposed to yours I think, so him voting some of your townreads isn't a convincing argument to me. If you think something he did earlier was scummy, I'll hear you out, but as of right now, I don't see much of an issue with his votes.

[Dunnstral]

One kill. Hmm. That points to a not SK or poisoner, as there aren’t a lot of protects in this game. Mr house is probably an arsonist. That’s an annoying role who can hide anywhere so I guess it’s gonna be hard pressed to 3p hunt this game. :suspish:

Ok, I see manny claims to have watched falcon visit Seanzie. The weirdest part to me is how only falcon seemed to have visited Seanzie, the counter wagon. Literally blows my mind. But I believe Manny’s claim, and falcon could literally be any of the roles. He could be the mafia poisoner, which would explain Seanzie’s death. Except mafia also get a factional kill so that doesn’t seem likely.

I feel like this is a set up to get Lime Coke yeeted. I don’t feel like falling on those obvious spikes

[VOTE: dunnstral] aubergine let’s start here again.

One kill. Hmm. That points to a not SK or poisoner, as there aren’t a lot of protects in this game. Mr house is probably an arsonist. That’s an annoying role who can hide anywhere so I guess it’s gonna be hard pressed to 3p hunt this game. :suspish:

Ok, I see manny claims to have watched falcon visit Seanzie. The weirdest part to me is how only falcon seemed to have visited Seanzie, the counter wagon. Literally blows my mind. But I believe Manny’s claim, and falcon could literally be any of the roles. He could be the mafia poisoner, which would explain Seanzie’s death. Except mafia also get a factional kill so that doesn’t seem likely.

I feel like this is a set up to get Lime Coke yeeted. I don’t feel like falling on those obvious spikes

[VOTE: dunnstral] aubergine let’s start here again.

Third sentence about Lime Coke makes no sense. And voting me after makes no sense either.

Lime and Seanzie had a spat, Lime Coke still had him as a suspect, and Seanzie had Lime as a top suspect for almost the whole game. How does that not make sense?

Voting you is exclusive of the rest of my post, I’ll give you that

Mac with a lot of good points. I just want to townread that.

Also enlightening that at this point, we *should* be looking at the top posters and besides my spam ass, I’m surprised to see Lime Coke there.

I mean, pull my leg [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Eyebrow raising progression

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Chelsea] aubergine

Come on dude please go with Nanook.

I just... really hope this isn't another town LC shielding a lady friend wolf again. That tune is so overplayed.

[Lime Coke]

Lime Coke why do you think Chelsea is town still? She's not out of her wolfrange and I've felt she's been off all game but you've had a locked in townread on her and doing your usual shtick in that regard. Can you actually articulate why you think she's town in a way you think I can comprehend.

I can see a world where the 3 of us are town being the reason I'm not dead but I'm not sure that any mafia team would be content with a high posting Lime Coke with a Chelsea shaped shield and doing nothing about it.

We don't have the same respect as say Alexa and I or Anne and I together.

Not to be disrespectful but Chelsea is a possible misyeet for mafia since people are more willing to vote her.

Plus most games were T/T we usually end game.

So I could use that as a reason why we'd still be alive together still.

In terms of why I don't scumread her I fell like I'd know how she would play around me specifically as mafia.
Which kinda again don't wanna out for future games.

Her solving has kinda been fine from what I've seen in the game. I may re-iso to check myself.

But yeah.

[MacDougall]

I just know that town Lime Coke when he shields a TOWN usually becomes a frustrating priority wolf kill so both he and his shield being alive is really telling. But he sounds like the town Brad so...

I remember asking Manny why he townread Chelsea for bad reasons back on d1 and he said something like "she doesn't sound like she's pocketing Brad" which ... is hilarious given where we now are.

[Lime Coke]

Town Core

Mac
Lan
Chelsea
Scotty

Yeppers

Thread needs to be less dead

I mean, it's early morning in Europe, the Americans are asleep and we have quite a few low-posters, including a non-poster.

Any thoughts on the game that differ a lot from your earlier reads list? Something you want to discuss? Or do you have something to help me figure out the players I am unsure of as of now?

Imagine sleeping

I'm an American but I work 3rds so I'm lonely lol

Uh my reads haven't changed much except I'd probably town core Long Con now

Also my top town are Lan and Long Con

That means that despite my mistrust in Scotty I should follow Lan's read on him because he sees something I don't see.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine
Mainly because now I don't want Sean chopped

Manny still feels like a low motivated wolf and his wagon doesn't grow which is concerning.
But maybe it's because people are not active?
Hard to tell.

Good forrrr...

Lan, Long Con, Scotty a bit since that was a sheep.

Bad for Man.

Not good for me or Chelsea though? Why pull that first quote if you aren't referencing the list?

Shared reads.

[Lime Coke]

Michelle I don't see talking about Chelsea in terms of like what read she has on her.

She did flip flop on you so sure.

Abigail had a moment positive to you but wasn't sure how solid that was.

[MacDougall]

okay now do Seanzie

[Manny]

Mac is an outted wolf, Falcon is prolly one too by virtue of not having died although less confident on that.
Dont got a result for n2 figure i was roleblocked.

[MacDougall]

Michelle I don't see talking about Chelsea in terms of like what read she has on her.

She did flip flop on you so sure.

Abigail had a moment positive to you but wasn't sure how solid that was.

You didn't read their isos very hard lol.

[Manny]

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Figure i prolly lose this thunderdome but i dunno if game is over with my miss-yeet or not.

[MacDougall]

Mac is an outted wolf, Falcon is prolly one too by virtue of not having died although less confident on that.
Dont got a result for n2 figure i was roleblocked.

Why am I an outed wolf? Use actual arguments please not omgus and halfway rule.