Assassins in the Palace [END]

[Thunal33]

I feel a bit bad now hahah but this is part of game, don't take any bad feelings. Btw, what was that avylon game you guys talked about? I never heard of it

No hard feelings, this isn’t the first time people have disagreed with the way I play and it’s not the first time people have scumread me for it. In response to one of your questions no, I’m not mafia.

And I’m actually trying to figure out the answers to some of your earlier questions because while my strategy is a good idea for 6 player AITP I kind of want to see how it translates to 13 player AITP and if it’s any different.

Just to check in, you don't feel uncomfortable with me engaging in this discussion more as I sure do have questions to ask?

I don’t think this discussion is too bad because it kind of continues what’s already there so idt we’re giving the assassins much new info. Giving lots of reads is what we have to be most careful of.

It looks like about a 70% chance town is able to kill both assassins before they reach parity if we eliminate by random (because I’m a nerd and felt like making a script for it). We can use the info we already have and any new info to increase that chance, but we’re already in a pretty good spot for eliminating both assassins. The assassins aren’t in such a good spot from the start, they have to get more info to be able to make good shots.

And Avalon does have a ranking system and sometimes tournaments but I’ve never played one.

0. I was asking if I was personally making you feel uncomfy hahah as you didn't seem engaging at the start. Glad that's not the case.
1. What makes you believe that eliminations will be random?
2. Can you show me the process behind the calculations?
3. Oh nice, I might check out the game.

No you're fine, I just had to think through if I wanted to engage.

1. I don't but it can be an okay baseline to get an idea of town's chances.

2. Open up Python and ask ChatGPT to write some code. My understanding is that it recursively computes probabilities until all the mafia are eliminated or mafia reach parity. Kind of similar to these calculations but not the same since this game has no night kills. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... EV_Project

Trust me, I tried using chatgpt for school and projects. It's math is equal to a 5 year old kid's at times. Worst part is, it does well in disguising it but it in fact usually calculates wrong

I plugged some different numbers for town and mafia into it and the outputs seemed reasonable but yeah it is wrong sometimes. I've found it's better at coding than at math.

[Thunal33]

I'll also add that being an outed guard isn't that much better than being dead in this setup. If the assassins know not to shoot you, that's one person they can eliminate from their pool for the rest of the game. I think it's a little better than being dead because you can still help town with your vote and the assassins can still tinfoil you, but it sure isn't good.

Have you heard of POE?

Yeah and it's like the assassins are making a PoE of who's the king. They start with everyone and narrow it down based on how people interact with each other.

[Thunal33]

How many Maf have you caught w/ this question?



I appreciate a direct approach, this technique could be a game changer

Glad that someone here appreciates it. What about you, are you scum?

Did you not read my first post?

Sir, I want an answer not a question. I did read it.

Then at the risk of redundancy, for which folks are often downsized, I AM TOWN!

I started entering my MU turbos with I AM TOWN! because of you.

Okay, this is interesting, elaborate

I get miskilled a lot in them and wanted to sound towny.

[Foxy]

I'll also add that being an outed guard isn't that much better than being dead in this setup. If the assassins know not to shoot you, that's one person they can eliminate from their pool for the rest of the game. I think it's a little better than being dead because you can still help town with your vote and the assassins can still tinfoil you, but it sure isn't good.

Have you heard of POE?

Yeah and it's like the assassins are making a PoE of who's the king. They start with everyone and narrow it down based on how people interact with each other.

Miss, everyone has a different read list. Is my read list so precious that assassins will take note only of it? I can be wrong and I am likely wrong in some of my reads.

[Foxy]

Glad that someone here appreciates it. What about you, are you scum?

Did you not read my first post?

Sir, I want an answer not a question. I did read it.

Then at the risk of redundancy, for which folks are often downsized, I AM TOWN!

I started entering my MU turbos with I AM TOWN! because of you.

Okay, this is interesting, elaborate

I get miskilled a lot in them and wanted to sound towny.

Are you saying that you have a trust tell? That kinda uhh, uncomfortable to deal with as either alignment as it just breaks the spirit of the game. And what does that have to do with the other person?

[Thunal33]

Did you not read my first post?

Sir, I want an answer not a question. I did read it.

Then at the risk of redundancy, for which folks are often downsized, I AM TOWN!

I started entering my MU turbos with I AM TOWN! because of you.

Okay, this is interesting, elaborate

I get miskilled a lot in them and wanted to sound towny.

Are you saying that you have a trust tell? That kinda uhh, uncomfortable to deal with as either alignment as it just breaks the spirit of the game. And what does that have to do with the other person?

No, I can do it as mafia too. Falcon is known for saying I AM TOWN every game so I took his idea.

[Foxy]

Sir, I want an answer not a question. I did read it.

Then at the risk of redundancy, for which folks are often downsized, I AM TOWN!

I started entering my MU turbos with I AM TOWN! because of you.

Okay, this is interesting, elaborate

I get miskilled a lot in them and wanted to sound towny.

Are you saying that you have a trust tell? That kinda uhh, uncomfortable to deal with as either alignment as it just breaks the spirit of the game. And what does that have to do with the other person?

No, I can do it as mafia too. Falcon is known for saying I AM TOWN every game so I took his idea.

Oh, IC. Why didn't you mention that before but only now?

[Thunal33]

Then at the risk of redundancy, for which folks are often downsized, I AM TOWN!

I started entering my MU turbos with I AM TOWN! because of you.

Okay, this is interesting, elaborate

I get miskilled a lot in them and wanted to sound towny.

Are you saying that you have a trust tell? That kinda uhh, uncomfortable to deal with as either alignment as it just breaks the spirit of the game. And what does that have to do with the other person?

No, I can do it as mafia too. Falcon is known for saying I AM TOWN every game so I took his idea.

Oh, IC. Why didn't you mention that before but only now?

He's entered with I AM TOWN! every game (regardless of alignment) for a long time so I forgot not everyone knew he did.

[Foxy]

I started entering my MU turbos with I AM TOWN! because of you.

Okay, this is interesting, elaborate

I get miskilled a lot in them and wanted to sound towny.

Are you saying that you have a trust tell? That kinda uhh, uncomfortable to deal with as either alignment as it just breaks the spirit of the game. And what does that have to do with the other person?

No, I can do it as mafia too. Falcon is known for saying I AM TOWN every game so I took his idea.

Oh, IC. Why didn't you mention that before but only now?

He's entered with I AM TOWN! every game (regardless of alignment) for a long time so I forgot not everyone knew he did.

I am plenty sure that Dai and me indicated multiple times that this is our first encounter with this forum. Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

[Thunal33]

Okay, this is interesting, elaborate

I get miskilled a lot in them and wanted to sound towny.

Are you saying that you have a trust tell? That kinda uhh, uncomfortable to deal with as either alignment as it just breaks the spirit of the game. And what does that have to do with the other person?

No, I can do it as mafia too. Falcon is known for saying I AM TOWN every game so I took his idea.

Oh, IC. Why didn't you mention that before but only now?

He's entered with I AM TOWN! every game (regardless of alignment) for a long time so I forgot not everyone knew he did.

I am plenty sure that Dai and me indicated multiple times that this is our first encounter with this forum. Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

It's not something I have to warn people about.

[Foxy]

I get miskilled a lot in them and wanted to sound towny.

Are you saying that you have a trust tell? That kinda uhh, uncomfortable to deal with as either alignment as it just breaks the spirit of the game. And what does that have to do with the other person?

No, I can do it as mafia too. Falcon is known for saying I AM TOWN every game so I took his idea.

Oh, IC. Why didn't you mention that before but only now?

He's entered with I AM TOWN! every game (regardless of alignment) for a long time so I forgot not everyone knew he did.

I am plenty sure that Dai and me indicated multiple times that this is our first encounter with this forum. Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

It's not something I have to warn people about.

Can you give me your best read on that player right now then? As you have meta, I'd love to see you giving that read. Also, feel free to mention any other players you can give a read on.

I know, this contradicts your "I don't want to talk tactic" but you should be aware that thread consensus is against it anyway so might as well cooperate. It's just a focus on one person, be it town or king.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Folks watching the game: in case anyone is interested, we have a spec chat on Discord. Send me a message there or in the forum if you want to join. It has both spoiled and no spoiler channels.

[falcon45ca]

Hi Miss, may I kindly ask, are you mafia?

How many Maf have you caught w/ this question?



I appreciate a direct approach, this technique could be a game changer

Glad that someone here appreciates it. What about you, are you scum?

Did you not read my first post?

Sir, I want an answer not a question. I did read it.

Then at the risk of redundancy, for which folks are often downsized, I AM TOWN!

I started entering my MU turbos with I AM TOWN! because of you.

I am quite flattered, tho I'll only accept responsibility for the positive outcomes...



Nah' fuck it, I'll take the neg as well. Any publicity is good publicity, mi'right?



Got any hawt takes from D1? Gut reads are more than welcome at this stage

[falcon45ca]

Okay, this is interesting, elaborate

I get miskilled a lot in them and wanted to sound towny.

Are you saying that you have a trust tell? That kinda uhh, uncomfortable to deal with as either alignment as it just breaks the spirit of the game. And what does that have to do with the other person?

No, I can do it as mafia too. Falcon is known for saying I AM TOWN every game so I took his idea.

Oh, IC. Why didn't you mention that before but only now?

He's entered with I AM TOWN! every game (regardless of alignment) for a long time so I forgot not everyone knew he did.

I am plenty sure that Dai and me indicated multiple times that this is our first encounter with this forum. Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

Is it alignment indicative meta if it is something that is done every time?

[Foxy]

I get miskilled a lot in them and wanted to sound towny.

Are you saying that you have a trust tell? That kinda uhh, uncomfortable to deal with as either alignment as it just breaks the spirit of the game. And what does that have to do with the other person?

No, I can do it as mafia too. Falcon is known for saying I AM TOWN every game so I took his idea.

Oh, IC. Why didn't you mention that before but only now?

He's entered with I AM TOWN! every game (regardless of alignment) for a long time so I forgot not everyone knew he did.

I am plenty sure that Dai and me indicated multiple times that this is our first encounter with this forum. Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

Is it alignment indicative meta if it is something that is done every time?

no, then it's NAI unless there's minor changes. Why?

[falcon45ca]

Are you saying that you have a trust tell? That kinda uhh, uncomfortable to deal with as either alignment as it just breaks the spirit of the game. And what does that have to do with the other person?

No, I can do it as mafia too. Falcon is known for saying I AM TOWN every game so I took his idea.

Oh, IC. Why didn't you mention that before but only now?[/b]

He's entered with I AM TOWN! every game (regardless of alignment) for a long time so I forgot not everyone knew he did.

I am plenty sure that Dai and me indicated multiple times that this is our first encounter with this forum. Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

Is it alignment indicative meta if it is something that is done every time?

no, then it's NAI unless there's minor changes. Why?

This is why

[Foxy]

No, I can do it as mafia too. Falcon is known for saying I AM TOWN every game so I took his idea.

Oh, IC. Why didn't you mention that before but only now?[/b]

He's entered with I AM TOWN! every game (regardless of alignment) for a long time so I forgot not everyone knew he did.

I am plenty sure that Dai and me indicated multiple times that this is our first encounter with this forum. Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

Is it alignment indicative meta if it is something that is done every time?

no, then it's NAI unless there's minor changes. Why?

This is why

I don't seem to understand. I questioned her and you joined explaining how it was obvious meta. It was, alright, but that question had nothing to do with determining your alignment so why did you reply as if I was trying to read you based on that when, from what I believe, I hadn't made a read based on that.

[falcon45ca]

That's not my point...my point is that Thunal clearly says I do my intro post every time, regardless of alignment



Then you question her as to why she would not warn you of a potential enemies meta...but it's not meta, as I do it every time, and Thunal told you that already



It feels like you're tunneling her. You've said she's Scum, would you mind giving me a few short points as to why?

[falcon45ca]

Very concerned about how Foxy keeps mentioning me. ToT Feels like he is buddying. And I don't understand his fixation on Thunal. So, I am voting him as my most sussed person atm. [VOTE: Foxy] aubergine

Scotty seems the most towny to me.

Made it a tie to try and save His Majesty Long Con.

Interesting

These posts of @daisukenowaifuke are just...buggin' me

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: daisuke] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

Oh yeah, Foxy & Thunal prolly both Town right now

[Foxy]

That's not my point...my point is that Thunal clearly says I do my intro post every time, regardless of alignment



Then you question her as to why she would not warn you of a potential enemies meta...but it's not meta, as I do it every time, and Thunal told you that already



It feels like you're tunneling her. You've said she's Scum, would you mind giving me a few short points as to why?

I'll explain to you after the game if I remember and you remember to ask. But yeah, I am indeed questioning her more than others. I will give a small case soon.

[Foxy]

Very concerned about how Foxy keeps mentioning me. ToT Feels like he is buddying. And I don't understand his fixation on Thunal. So, I am voting him as my most sussed person atm. [VOTE: Foxy] aubergine

Scotty seems the most towny to me.

Made it a tie to try and save His Majesty Long Con.

Interesting

These posts of @daisukenowaifuke are just...buggin' me

I say you are probably town.

[daisukenowaifuke]

Very concerned about how Foxy keeps mentioning me. ToT Feels like he is buddying. And I don't understand his fixation on Thunal. So, I am voting him as my most sussed person atm. [VOTE: Foxy] aubergine

Scotty seems the most towny to me.

Made it a tie to try and save His Majesty Long Con.

Interesting

These posts of @daisukenowaifuke are just...buggin' me

His Majesty Long Con and I are scum buddies, how did you know?

[daisukenowaifuke]

Voting me puts Foxy in the lead, and I don't want that. Yet, he tunnels Thunal too much, I just think Thunal has innocent intentions.

[falcon45ca]

Very concerned about how Foxy keeps mentioning me. ToT Feels like he is buddying. And I don't understand his fixation on Thunal. So, I am voting him as my most sussed person atm. [VOTE: Foxy] aubergine

Scotty seems the most towny to me.

Made it a tie to try and save His Majesty Long Con.

Interesting

These posts of @daisukenowaifuke are just...buggin' me

His Majesty Long Con and I are scum buddies, how did you know?

I don't



I don't often solve the game D1, it's pretty rare in fact

[daisukenowaifuke]

Very concerned about how Foxy keeps mentioning me. ToT Feels like he is buddying. And I don't understand his fixation on Thunal. So, I am voting him as my most sussed person atm. [VOTE: Foxy] aubergine

Scotty seems the most towny to me.

Made it a tie to try and save His Majesty Long Con.

Interesting

These posts of @daisukenowaifuke are just...buggin' me

His Majesty Long Con and I are scum buddies, how did you know?

I don't



I don't often solve the game D1, it's pretty rare in fact

Same.

I only played one town game well. SKSKKS.

[Foxy]

Voting me puts Foxy in the lead, and I don't want that. Yet, he tunnels Thunal too much, I just think Thunal has innocent intentions.

wdym

[Thunal33]

Very concerned about how Foxy keeps mentioning me. ToT Feels like he is buddying. And I don't understand his fixation on Thunal. So, I am voting him as my most sussed person atm. [VOTE: Foxy] aubergine

Scotty seems the most towny to me.

Made it a tie to try and save His Majesty Long Con.

Interesting

These posts of @daisukenowaifuke are just...buggin' me

His Majesty Long Con and I are scum buddies, how did you know?

I don't



I don't often solve the game D1, it's pretty rare in fact

Same.

I only played one town game well. SKSKKS.

Would I know you or Foxy from anywhere?

[Thunal33]

Are you saying that you have a trust tell? That kinda uhh, uncomfortable to deal with as either alignment as it just breaks the spirit of the game. And what does that have to do with the other person?

No, I can do it as mafia too. Falcon is known for saying I AM TOWN every game so I took his idea.

Oh, IC. Why didn't you mention that before but only now?

He's entered with I AM TOWN! every game (regardless of alignment) for a long time so I forgot not everyone knew he did.

I am plenty sure that Dai and me indicated multiple times that this is our first encounter with this forum. Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

It's not something I have to warn people about.

Can you give me your best read on that player right now then? As you have meta, I'd love to see you giving that read. Also, feel free to mention any other players you can give a read on.

I know, this contradicts your "I don't want to talk tactic" but you should be aware that thread consensus is against it anyway so might as well cooperate. It's just a focus on one person, be it town or king.

Falcon feels ~fine to me now, don't want to vote there today. I'll probably wait until later in the day to decide my vote or voice any suspicions.

[Foxy]

Very concerned about how Foxy keeps mentioning me. ToT Feels like he is buddying. And I don't understand his fixation on Thunal. So, I am voting him as my most sussed person atm. [VOTE: Foxy] aubergine

Scotty seems the most towny to me.

Made it a tie to try and save His Majesty Long Con.

Interesting

These posts of @daisukenowaifuke are just...buggin' me

His Majesty Long Con and I are scum buddies, how did you know?

I don't



I don't often solve the game D1, it's pretty rare in fact

Same.

I only played one town game well. SKSKKS.

Would I know you or Foxy from anywhere?

Depends for me. Is Krr1ss familiar to you? If not, you don't know me. I have no idea about your other IDs as well

[Foxy]

No, I can do it as mafia too. Falcon is known for saying I AM TOWN every game so I took his idea.

Oh, IC. Why didn't you mention that before but only now?

He's entered with I AM TOWN! every game (regardless of alignment) for a long time so I forgot not everyone knew he did.

I am plenty sure that Dai and me indicated multiple times that this is our first encounter with this forum. Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

It's not something I have to warn people about.

Can you give me your best read on that player right now then? As you have meta, I'd love to see you giving that read. Also, feel free to mention any other players you can give a read on.

I know, this contradicts your "I don't want to talk tactic" but you should be aware that thread consensus is against it anyway so might as well cooperate. It's just a focus on one person, be it town or king.

Falcon feels ~fine to me now, don't want to vote there today. I'll probably wait until later in the day to decide my vote or voice any suspicions.

Any particular reason why he is fine?

[Thunal33]

Oh, IC. Why didn't you mention that before but only now?

He's entered with I AM TOWN! every game (regardless of alignment) for a long time so I forgot not everyone knew he did.

I am plenty sure that Dai and me indicated multiple times that this is our first encounter with this forum. Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

It's not something I have to warn people about.

Can you give me your best read on that player right now then? As you have meta, I'd love to see you giving that read. Also, feel free to mention any other players you can give a read on.

I know, this contradicts your "I don't want to talk tactic" but you should be aware that thread consensus is against it anyway so might as well cooperate. It's just a focus on one person, be it town or king.

Falcon feels ~fine to me now, don't want to vote there today. I'll probably wait until later in the day to decide my vote or voice any suspicions.

Any particular reason why he is fine?

I like that he's prodding and seems interested in solving the game.

Also no, I'm not familiar with Kr1ss. I play mostly here and on MU.

[daisukenowaifuke]

Voting me puts Foxy in the lead, and I don't want that. Yet, he tunnels Thunal too much, I just think Thunal has innocent intentions.

wdym

I just felt like you are fixated on smth Thunal said that doesn't seem quite scummy to me. You see, it has been going on for 1 and a half phases now.

Mhmm~ I went to ISO you to point out your posts and I found this:

And that means if you are voted, just accept it instead of trying to defend yourself or convincing anyone not to vote you. Don't try to start a counterwagon for self pres either.

That doesn't sound like a good idea.

The Assassins only have 2 shots, so I am assuming they don't get the regular factional kill like in normal mafia? Which means, the Assassins best bet is to vote out everyone except themselves and their partner to maximum their chances of victory.

But, what is mafia if not nitpicking on something so small, aye?

I will be down to voting: anyone who is not Scotty, Falcon, Thunal, atm.

I had a vague memory of getting sussy vibes from jackofhearts, but when I went to ISO them, I found nothing.

;(( maybe if you all just talked more...

[daisukenowaifuke]

Very concerned about how Foxy keeps mentioning me. ToT Feels like he is buddying. And I don't understand his fixation on Thunal. So, I am voting him as my most sussed person atm. [VOTE: Foxy] aubergine

Scotty seems the most towny to me.

Made it a tie to try and save His Majesty Long Con.

Interesting

These posts of @daisukenowaifuke are just...buggin' me

His Majesty Long Con and I are scum buddies, how did you know?

I don't



I don't often solve the game D1, it's pretty rare in fact

Same.

I only played one town game well. SKSKKS.

Would I know you or Foxy from anywhere?

If you have heard of a daisukenowaifu(ke), maybe. But I haven't heard of a Thunal before.

[Foxy]

He's entered with I AM TOWN! every game (regardless of alignment) for a long time so I forgot not everyone knew he did.

I am plenty sure that Dai and me indicated multiple times that this is our first encounter with this forum. Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

It's not something I have to warn people about.

Can you give me your best read on that player right now then? As you have meta, I'd love to see you giving that read. Also, feel free to mention any other players you can give a read on.

I know, this contradicts your "I don't want to talk tactic" but you should be aware that thread consensus is against it anyway so might as well cooperate. It's just a focus on one person, be it town or king.

Falcon feels ~fine to me now, don't want to vote there today. I'll probably wait until later in the day to decide my vote or voice any suspicions.

Any particular reason why he is fine?

I like that he's prodding and seems interested in solving the game.

Also no, I'm not familiar with Kr1ss. I play mostly here and on MU.

what is your MU id?

[Foxy]

Voting me puts Foxy in the lead, and I don't want that. Yet, he tunnels Thunal too much, I just think Thunal has innocent intentions.

wdym

I just felt like you are fixated on smth Thunal said that doesn't seem quite scummy to me. You see, it has been going on for 1 and a half phases now.

Mhmm~ I went to ISO you to point out your posts and I found this:

And that means if you are voted, just accept it instead of trying to defend yourself or convincing anyone not to vote you. Don't try to start a counterwagon for self pres either.

That doesn't sound like a good idea.

The Assassins only have 2 shots, so I am assuming they don't get the regular factional kill like in normal mafia? Which means, the Assassins best bet is to vote out everyone except themselves and their partner to maximum their chances of victory.

But, what is mafia if not nitpicking on something so small, aye?

I will be down to voting: anyone who is not Scotty, Falcon, Thunal, atm.

I had a vague memory of getting sussy vibes from jackofhearts, but when I went to ISO them, I found nothing.

;(( maybe if you all just talked more...

Okay so you went to ISO me and found something that you replied with? I am confused.

[daisukenowaifuke]

Voting me puts Foxy in the lead, and I don't want that. Yet, he tunnels Thunal too much, I just think Thunal has innocent intentions.

wdym

I just felt like you are fixated on smth Thunal said that doesn't seem quite scummy to me. You see, it has been going on for 1 and a half phases now.

Mhmm~ I went to ISO you to point out your posts and I found this:

And that means if you are voted, just accept it instead of trying to defend yourself or convincing anyone not to vote you. Don't try to start a counterwagon for self pres either.

That doesn't sound like a good idea.

The Assassins only have 2 shots, so I am assuming they don't get the regular factional kill like in normal mafia? Which means, the Assassins best bet is to vote out everyone except themselves and their partner to maximum their chances of victory.

But, what is mafia if not nitpicking on something so small, aye?

I will be down to voting: anyone who is not Scotty, Falcon, Thunal, atm.

I had a vague memory of getting sussy vibes from jackofhearts, but when I went to ISO them, I found nothing.

;(( maybe if you all just talked more...

Okay so you went to ISO me and found something that you replied with? I am confused.

Yes! It reminded me of why I didn't wanna follow that plan initially, and I can understand your POV more. Maybe you are town after all (despite, how much you sound like you are trying to pocket me).

[daisukenowaifuke]

Can we get your case on Thunal already?

[daisukenowaifuke]

Reaching the top of this page I fell asleep with the phone in hand.
So basically if I am not voting the king town is safe or at least that's what my sleepy brain thinks.
If I can't make reads until d0 ends, I will azap, aduring D1

The reverse is perhaps a bit more true here. But don't make it obvious.

Just play a normal mafia game

Basically, we don't want the king to be the only person to not receive votes or stated suspicion. But don't overcompensate either.

I find these ppl towny because of these posts from them. So, for D1, I won't be voting them.

[Thunal33]

I am plenty sure that Dai and me indicated multiple times that this is our first encounter with this forum. Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

It's not something I have to warn people about.

Can you give me your best read on that player right now then? As you have meta, I'd love to see you giving that read. Also, feel free to mention any other players you can give a read on.

I know, this contradicts your "I don't want to talk tactic" but you should be aware that thread consensus is against it anyway so might as well cooperate. It's just a focus on one person, be it town or king.

Falcon feels ~fine to me now, don't want to vote there today. I'll probably wait until later in the day to decide my vote or voice any suspicions.

Any particular reason why he is fine?

I like that he's prodding and seems interested in solving the game.

Also no, I'm not familiar with Kr1ss. I play mostly here and on MU.

what is your MU id?

I have a few accounts, I used to just be known as Thunal33 there but I've played more as Spellblade recently. I mostly play turbos now.

[daisukenowaifuke]

Moving my vote from pocketing Foxy to [VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine, because I am gonna trust the universal sources that speak directly to me.

[nutella]

Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

this is really funny

[Scotty]

God this vote count is sexy.

[Foxy]

Voting me puts Foxy in the lead, and I don't want that. Yet, he tunnels Thunal too much, I just think Thunal has innocent intentions.

wdym

I just felt like you are fixated on smth Thunal said that doesn't seem quite scummy to me. You see, it has been going on for 1 and a half phases now.

Mhmm~ I went to ISO you to point out your posts and I found this:

And that means if you are voted, just accept it instead of trying to defend yourself or convincing anyone not to vote you. Don't try to start a counterwagon for self pres either.

That doesn't sound like a good idea.

The Assassins only have 2 shots, so I am assuming they don't get the regular factional kill like in normal mafia? Which means, the Assassins best bet is to vote out everyone except themselves and their partner to maximum their chances of victory.

But, what is mafia if not nitpicking on something so small, aye?

I will be down to voting: anyone who is not Scotty, Falcon, Thunal, atm.

I had a vague memory of getting sussy vibes from jackofhearts, but when I went to ISO them, I found nothing.

;(( maybe if you all just talked more...

Okay so you went to ISO me and found something that you replied with? I am confused.

Yes! It reminded me of why I didn't wanna follow that plan initially, and I can understand your POV more. Maybe you are town after all (despite, how much you sound like you are trying to pocket me).

Can we get your case on Thunal already?

Reaching the top of this page I fell asleep with the phone in hand.
So basically if I am not voting the king town is safe or at least that's what my sleepy brain thinks.
If I can't make reads until d0 ends, I will azap, aduring D1

The reverse is perhaps a bit more true here. But don't make it obvious.

Just play a normal mafia game

Basically, we don't want the king to be the only person to not receive votes or stated suspicion. But don't overcompensate either.

I find these ppl towny because of these posts from them. So, for D1, I won't be voting them.

Okay, you are town. I am going to write that thing later as I am in a train now.

[Foxy]

Moving my vote from pocketing Foxy to [VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine, because I am gonna trust the universal sources that speak directly to me.

elaborate?

[Foxy]

Did it never cross your mind to warn the newbies of an obvious meta from potential enemy?

this is really funny

It is!

[Foxy]

God this vote count is sexy.

Sir, do you want me to make a change?

[Scotty]

I’m probably gonna end up playing this game like Avalon.

I had a realization this morning that the basis for initially placing random votes and/or giving as little information as possible is a level 0 hedge against those guards that would have a hard time keeping a secret, like my sister-in-law, who announced loudly at dinner one night with the in laws that my wife and I got a dog. We told you that in CONFIDENCE, Bridget. She ruined the surprise and we’ve never forgotten that because *someone* wanted the attention.

Well, I’m not a Bumbling Burton and am confident I can keep a secret and muddy the waters if need be.

Information is power, but if the court jester has information, what can you trust, really?

[Scotty]

God this vote count is sexy.

Sir, do you want me to make a change?

What are you, the Sexy Spanish Inquisition?