Ancient Greece Mafia [CONQUEST]

[Long Con]

... Choutas, I think your original idea was better, the "Go through Mac's stuff" thing. That last post was a little weak for my taste.

[Long Con]

I don't at this point see dunya as bad but I have previously noted she is also Lunalee compatible so if she is bad, at that point I'd feel very secure that Luna was between her and Colin's conduct.

A Luna vote is still very much on the cards for me.

When I realized that the Oracle was something written by a player, I thought Luna's comment after it might indicate that she is the Oracle role.

The rules very expressly prohibit any kind of role-hinting so now that you point it out I think the opposite is true.

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We have received word of a prophecy of the pythia from the Oracle at Delphi.

Choutas is clouding his eyes with a focus on principles only
Dougall looks great and he should be a beacon for rational thinkers
Listen to words from the gods who say Golden and Empee are townies
Speedchuck is trustworthy, Luna and Kyle we can safely rely on
Persians amongst us, but sloonei was lynched and we cheered to the heavens

I can't believe my luck, guys. I was literally just town confirmed by an oracle.

That's not a claim or a hint though, that's an innocent comment. Or is it...? This would not break any rules if she were indeed the Oracle.

[Golden]

If there's any role hint in that poem, I thought it could have been the picture which pointed at a high Kyle, assuming the oracle could choose the picture.

I do not think Luna is the oracle and I do think that would have broken Jay's 'role-hinting' rule, although I admit it seems difficult to enforce in general.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I like a nova, dunya, or Choutas vote based on these recaps. Lunalee also looked like she might be a teammate, but I also have a Civ role in mind for her.

Ditto.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Except for having a role in mind for Luna.

[Golden]

Except for having a role in mind for Luna.

I think LC would be poorly off relying on having that role in mind over his own gut instinct.

But I tend to think maybe it looks a little not LC/Luna team which is a good thing for LC because I think one of the reasons he most looks bad is by association with Luna's actions.

[Golden]

I'm seeing a lot of town-like LC today actually.

[Golden]

Choutas taking four votes that fast is a very bad look to me. In contrast to LC looking good today, TH in particular has looked bad.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Diggin the Choutas wagon. Let’s do that.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Golden, you worry too much.

(Not a hint. Just judging.)

[Golden]

Golden, you worry too much.

(Not a hint. Just judging.)

I don't really worry at all. Being right in mafia is not something I lose any sleep over.

Choutas isn't bad. Not a hint, just judging a sudden four vote wagon virtually out of the blue based on not much at all.

OK, Choutas could be bad. I didn't like his approach to me on day one at all. But I still don't like the ease with which that group of four came together. Too easy.

[Dom]

Theory of the game! Baddie team remaining:

dunya
speedchuck
Golden

Confused where your Dom/MP suspicion went.

You don't like my playstyle. I get it. It's not my baddie playstyle, it's just my playstyle. I really don't know how to make you see that, you want it to be true that I'm bad, so you're going to convince yourself it's true.

That's me treating you as a Civ. If you're bad, then keep going at it, I'm always a low-hanging fruit.

You're a low hanging fruit!?

Dom & Colin:
A big long post that I'm not gonna quote. Dom calls out Colin for his shady Day 1 vote, but then also calls Golden out for calling Colin out first. It seems that he disapproved of Golden's vote for sig in response to Colin's vote, and a big long discussion immediately followed between the two. That is not the object of my analysis right now, so I won't comment too much, but the line of inquiry looks very genuine from Dom. He saw something from Golden that he didn't like and he picked the hell out of it. Good look.

I am very bad at doing these and I am not a huge fan, but I am starting to like them, idk I'll try it.

Dom
MacDougall
M Plus 7
Scotty
Choutas
Epignosis
novaselinenever
Spacedaisy
speedchuck
Turnip Head
wolbre04
Golden
Jackofhearts2005
Kites
Long Con
lapluie
dunya
Kylemii
Lunalee
Marmot
ColinIsCool
Sloonei

Colin is second from the bottom on Dom's rainbow, only ahead of yours truly. Thanks Dom.

This post doesn't need to be long. Dom spends the rest of Day 2 holding Colin's feet to the fire. If this is a bus job, Dom was very aggressive about it. Given the climate in the thread at the time, it's not impossible, but I'm not going indulge in that much tinfoil on Day 3 when things seem to be going relatively well. Dom is a town read and was one of Colin's most vocal opponents.

just as an fyi-- it's alphabetical within colors.

[Golden]

LC, I did a quick check.

The rest of the views in the oracle are very blatantly and clearly not Luna's views as at the point in time she would have had to write this. Go look for yourself.

[Long Con]

I'm seeing a lot of town-like LC today actually.

You know, my favourite thing about you is how well you can read me.

[Long Con]

LC, I did a quick check.

The rest of the views in the oracle are very blatantly and clearly not Luna's views as at the point in time she would have had to write this. Go look for yourself.

Good thinking... I'm going out grocery shopping right now, but I'll try to remember to check out Luna's views later. Shouldn't take too long. I recall one view being her suspicion of me, and I would expect my name to show up. Actually, I think she has flip-flopped on me. Either way, A Luna Oracle would probably include my name.

[Long Con]

Hi Dom... ttyl, sorry.

[Golden]

I'm seeing a lot of town-like LC today actually.

You know, my favourite thing about you is how well you can read me.

That's not me giving you a town read btw. It's just that I don't tunnel. I still think there's a tonne you've done that looks bad.

But your 'Luna is oracle' thing in particular oozes town LC.

[Turnip Head]

Golden, you worry too much.

(Not a hint. Just judging.)

I don't really worry at all. Being right in mafia is not something I lose any sleep over.

Choutas isn't bad. Not a hint, just judging a sudden four vote wagon virtually out of the blue based on not much at all.

OK, Choutas could be bad. I didn't like his approach to me on day one at all. But I still don't like the ease with which that group of four came together. Too easy.

At least things are happening. The worst thing to happen right meow is we hit that midgame lull when top town players get killed and the quiet ones lose interest.

Just keeping the energy up

[Kylemii]

when did choutas become such a center of attention

[Kylemii]

when did choutas vote for me? and why. did I skip a bunch of pages or something

[Kylemii]

hey, [mention]Choutas[/mention]? what's the deal man

[Kylemii]

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]

same question.

[Sloonei]

Sloonei

same question.

By the looks of it mafia are killing civilians while civilians try to hunt mafia.

[wolbre04]

Wolbre please do not mafia and drive.

Thanks, I was just in a parking lot because someone from work needed me to text them some information, so I checked mafia while at it

[speedchuck]

Why Choutas?

[speedchuck]

[VOTE: Turnip head] aubergine

[Long Con]

You're going after Team IDGAF now?

[speedchuck]

You're going after Team IDGAF now?

I've been after them for a while.

[speedchuck]

You're going after Team IDGAF now?

You're on Choutas as well. Why?

[Turnip Head]

Choutas is sounding a little phony to me lately, that's all I've got tho

[speedchuck]

Choutas is sounding a little phony to me lately, that's all I've got tho

He has 19 posts. Can you quote two of them that make you feel that way?

Please?

[Turnip Head]

Choutas is sounding a little phony to me lately, that's all I've got tho

He has 19 posts. Can you quote two of them that make you feel that way?

Please?

Maybe I will in the morning speedcheeks

[Long Con]

You're going after Team IDGAF now?

You're on Choutas as well. Why?

Sloonei did some Colin-Choutas cross-referencing, and I thought Choutas came out of that looking like a likely teammate.

[Sloonei]

You're going after Team IDGAF now?

I've been after them for a while.

why?

[speedchuck]

You're going after Team IDGAF now?

I've been after them for a while.

why?

Because they can do better. Because it's easy to hide when you're just barfing posts for the lolz.

Ask Rico how I feel about Poppy and youtube video posts, for example. I've lynched him twice for making IDGAF posts, and he was scum one of those times.

[Sloonei]

You're going after Team IDGAF now?

I've been after them for a while.

why?

Because they can do better. Because it's easy to hide when you're just barfing posts for the lolz.

Ask Rico how I feel about Poppy and youtube video posts, for example. I've lynched him twice for making IDGAF posts, and he was scum one of those times.

Who comprises Team DGAF and how would you rank them in terms of suspicion?

[Dom]

yo lc you gotta ttml or nah

[Long Con]

Theory of the game! Baddie team remaining:

dunya
speedchuck
Golden

Confused where your Dom/MP suspicion went.

It's waning.

You don't like my playstyle. I get it. It's not my baddie playstyle, it's just my playstyle. I really don't know how to make you see that, you want it to be true that I'm bad, so you're going to convince yourself it's true.

That's me treating you as a Civ. If you're bad, then keep going at it, I'm always a low-hanging fruit.

You're a low hanging fruit!?

Absolutely. Very easy to accuse and suspect. Always.

[Long Con]

yo lc you gotta ttml or nah

LOL you linki'd me.

[Jackofhearts2005]

You're going after Team IDGAF now?

I've been after them for a while.

Cause you need fall guys cause you so bad.

[Dom]

literally why tho

[Jackofhearts2005]

Speedchuck so bad, Michael Jackson gave him the rights to that song.

Speedchuck so evil, Thanos thinks his plans are a bit much.

Speedchuck so corrupt, Republicans are going to nominate him to run for president in 2024.

[speedchuck]

Speedchuck so bad, Michael Jackson gave him the rights to that song.

Speedchuck so evil, Thanos thinks his plans are a bit much.

Speedchuck so corrupt, Republicans are going to nominate him to run for president in 2024.

I'm honored by... well, two of these comparisons. Infinity War was great.

Who comprises Team DGAF and how would you rank them in terms of suspicion?

JoH and Turnip Head. TH I suspect more, because Jack has done things at some point that GAF.

I think my biggest problem right now is that Mac stopped talking, half the game stopped playing, and the biggest wagon right now is on a low poster. AND that wagon consists of the two "most suspected people" of the last 48 hours and team IDGAF.

I'm not comfortable with any of this, and it's making me not want to lynch Choutas.

[speedchuck]

Look at that wagon and tell me it's pretty.

[Quin]

Kites never mentioned Colin.

I looked at both of Sloonei's votes (in ISO, mind so idk about timing) and have no idea what "out of context" means. Day 1, he puts down a pressure vote on Colin and moves it later. I wouldn't expect him to leave it. Nothing out of the ordinary there. Day 3 he voted Colin after a criticism of his vote. What am I missing?

Quin (holy shit it feels good to be able to actually type his name again, no more Kwin for me) doesn't suspect me for my Day 1 vote of Colin. Thank you quin.

im voting colin because i still don't have an answer to as why sloonei's colin vote look bad (it doesn't)

He joins the Colin bandwagon, though it seems more in defense of me than out of suspicion against Colin. I appreciate that, and given that Quin is a newcomer with a blank slate I like this look. If he's bad there's enough ammunition for him to pin a vote on me, and Quin has a history of suspecting me hard in games so it wouldn't even be particularly alarming. Townie point for Quin, absolutely no favoritism due to him being my only supporter in the thread.

im voting colin because i still don't have an answer to as why sloonei's colin vote look bad (it doesn't)

Sorry I must have missed where that was questionable?

i wasn't around when it went down to have the same sense of whatevertermyouwouldusetodescribeaneventofsignificanceinthiscontext as everyone else. i'm calling things as i see them and i'm calling that sloonei's vote isn't suspicious and people acting like colin and sloonei are sure things is making me flip out.

Wrapped up in a larger point here is that Quin does not think Colin is a sure thing. But he voted for him on a day when there were really only 2 options. Still, I'm not actually seeing a stance on Colin from Quin. Somewhat understandable given his late arrival to this game, and I appreciate that Quin was not afraid to involve himself in the action right away. But his vote, again, was more of a defense of me than a suspicion of Colin. @Quin what were your thoughts on Colin as Day 2 unfolded?

Lean town on Quin.

I didn't have a stance on Colin. That's not what my vote was about though. I'd read into you re: Colin and didn't see any indication of a scum Sloonei so i voted in your favour. Very half-assed if you ask me.

also i retied it between you and him so i want extra town points for that please

[speedchuck]

Who comprises Team DGAF and how would you rank them in terms of suspicion?

JoH and Turnip Head. TH I suspect more, because Jack has done things at some point that GAF.

Oh, and Quin. And maybe some others? It's growing now that Mac is dead.

[Long Con]

Is Marmot on Team IDGAF?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Infinity War was great.

Ikr?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Is Marmot on Team IDGAF?

He's just taking awhile to vote is all.

[colonialbob]

What's the case on Choutas? I'ma be honest and say I haven't read Sloonbeard's Colin interaction posts yet. Is there anything besides that?