The "less chaos column" is just a beige sweatervest
My column is a dragon
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At this point we all agree that Quin looks the fishiest so maybe you could look into that for us.
but what aboutTurnip Head wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 8:16 pmThe "less chaos column" is just a beige sweatervest
My column is a dragon
I'd tap that
Right?????
Should I keep susoecting you or like what's the cool thing to do here?
Whatever you want, pal.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 9:44 pmShould I keep susoecting you or like what's the cool thing to do here?
this post looks very town imoTurnip Head wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 9:20 pmAt this point we all agree that Quin looks the fishiest so maybe you could look into that for us.
Nah, I’m more a cleanup hitter, but thanks
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:06 pm @speedchuck you made a read list yesterday with town reads, and about 5 other various pings you had on people, with the promise that you would sus people out by tomorrow (today). The rest of your posts since have been condemnations on Epi’s meta being different, picking apart some of his flighty voting patterns and parking your vote on him, though he wasn’t a player highlighted on your ping list yesterday. What happened to those pings?
Or was that just a semblance of appearing town for a bit while flying under the radar hmm?
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:16 am How coincidental of Jack to start laying out reads now.
And how nice of cbob to butter him up and inflate his standing. He a teammate?
I think jack is distancing from nova and maybe speed. Can’t determine yet. I’m now convinced jack is only choosing to be “straight” because he has pressure.
Why me ? I'd think Speed's flip shows that we are not teammates and that the wagon on me was a counter-wagon to Speed's in order to save him. You and Scotty are good ones for D6.
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 10:44 pmWhy me ? I'd think Speed's flip shows that we are not teammates and that the wagon on me was a counter-wagon to Speed's in order to save him. You and Scotty are good ones for D6.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 10:10 pm Scotty doesn’t the first portion of the game distancing from Colin, ultimately voting Sloonei to leave open a “counterwagon” while insisting Colin was his top suspect.
You'll see a trend from me often in games where I don't feel like just adding to the prevailing wagon unless I've got no other options. What's wrong with a counterwagon? You never know if there are lynch switching abilities out there, so why operate in a linear fashion? What good is my vote on a 13 (or however many) person wagon?
That’s ping number 1.
He then spends quite some time going after people who aren’t mafia for supposedly being Colin’s teammates: Luna, Choutas, Daisy, LC and Dunya. He also talks a lot of crap about Nova but doesn’t vote for him until someone calls him out for distancing. He immediately votes Nova in response but moves his vote later.
Do you know Choutas, Daisy and dunya aren't mafia? You didn't just scumslip, did you?![]()
Anyway, yes, I looked at some people I had doubts about and looked through their ISOs in relation to Colin, a confirmed scum. And nova's looked glaringly bad out of all them, but cbob brought up that Colin could have voted to save nova on D1, but didn't, so I backed off based on that good point. Then Golden brought up a counterpoint that Colin could have just as easily done it so that later on, he wouldn't be linked. Which is a take that I was having trouble connecting to unless you take into account some teammates would be bussing. So I don't find it all that positive for nova in the long run anymore.
Nova has about 5 posts saying Speed is suspicious and agrees with me Speed is probably bad.
Then comes yesterday. Speed and Scotty both decide to lynch team idgaf. I decide to get serious and Scotty keeps after me anyway, saying I’m only doing anything cause of his pressure.
I was following the Oracle's lead. Plus, I was following my own conscience. Having 3 straight mislynches with a bunch of court jesters running around was pissing me off, tbh. Also, I didn't end with my vote on you, did I? As I just explained, I've found a better alternative for your alignment and the reasoning why you've been doin what you've been doing![]()
That’s ping number 2.
You see, his arguement for voting for me is that he’d never know if I was bad so he has to get rid of me now.
I stand by that. Says the man that so boldly boasts that he doesn't get lynched in games.
So if I was only posting due to his pressure....what’s the problem? I’m posting. Now Scotty can figure Jack out. But like Speedchuck, Scotty wasn’t looking for a baddie. He was looking for low hanging 3P fruit and got a nasty surprise when the only thing he found was supatown Jack.
I'm confused by this statement. When was I looking for 3P?
Then comes ping number 3.
Scotty has expressed mild suspicion of Speedchuck all game but when push came to shove, he wasn’t interested. He went after Nova instead. Totally ignored my case and Daisy’s. Like with the Colin train, Scotty eventually comes around to the idea that Speed is bad once his lynch is all but inevitable but chooses to leave his vote on the counterwagon he was pushing.
Wasn't interested? That's a misrepresentation. I was interested, I just couldn't build a case of my own to place why I felt that way. His relationship to Colin when I did my initial perusal of people came back with me scratching my head. He looked good to me on paper, but in reality he was distancing himself.
As for the yellow'd: Yes, you see my pattern now, eh?
Not sure if he’s distancing from Nova or setting him up. I lean towards the later. We’ll see. Either way, Scotty needs to go.
Scotty notably tries to tie me, CBob, Speed and Nova. When Scotty flips bad, I think that townfirms CBob.
What happens when I flip good?
What happens when nova flips bad?
All I see here is that I initially viewed speed as bad and still had suspicion. Other people made cases better than mine. Then I put some together as well today and was satisfied with the lynches. That I didn't vote for someone I [almost] equally suspected makes me suspicious is a load of crockpot.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 10:21 pmScotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:06 pm @speedchuck you made a read list yesterday with town reads, and about 5 other various pings you had on people, with the promise that you would sus people out by tomorrow (today). The rest of your posts since have been condemnations on Epi’s meta being different, picking apart some of his flighty voting patterns and parking your vote on him, though he wasn’t a player highlighted on your ping list yesterday. What happened to those pings?
Or was that just a semblance of appearing town for a bit while flying under the radar hmm?Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:16 am How coincidental of Jack to start laying out reads now.
And how nice of cbob to butter him up and inflate his standing. He a teammate?
I think jack is distancing from nova and maybe speed. Can’t determine yet. I’m now convinced jack is only choosing to be “straight” because he has pressure.
Wtf happened to all this Speedchuck suspicion, Scotty? Why did it dry up just when other players started making serious cases against him?
I notice you get a bit of it back but it’s all in the form of “Yeah, Speed is bad...with a player I will now vote for instead.”
Can I pick the next victim once you've moved on past me? Again, I like this new jack. You can stay.
I think you're going over my head. Should I "know" your alignment? I don't know what you're actually implying.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 11:39 pm Haha. You’re joking calling me scum, right?
If you “don’t know” my alignment yet, that just makes me more certain about yours.
Show me the post where you’re interested in lynching Speedchuck yesterday or weighed in on my case or Daisy’s case. I’ve ISOed you. Those posts don’t exist.
If you didn't buy my panic, you don't know my game at all. I tend to panic when I feel town is losing.jack wrote:Scotty is a possible scum player. As MP said, he’s going after low hanging fruit. Nova and Speedchuck are juicy targets if you want to lynch scum. Team idgaf is actually full of townies if you pay them half an ounce of attention. Scotty faulters sometimes as town but this is a particularly weak method of solving and I don’t buy his panic at all or his complaints about the Luna lynch.
You should. I just put forth a case that (along with Daisy’s case) got a baddie lynched. You think you and TH prodded me a bit so I just decided to make a massive case on my scumbuddy?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 11:50 pmI think you're going over my head. Should I "know" your alignment? I don't know what you're actually implying.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 11:39 pm Haha. You’re joking calling me scum, right?
If you “don’t know” my alignment yet, that just makes me more certain about yours.
Show me the post where you’re interested in lynching Speedchuck yesterday or weighed in on my case or Daisy’s case. I’ve ISOed you. Those posts don’t exist.
Here's one I looked at in relation to nova:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ed#p439216
Here's some examples of where I said nova and speed should be lynched:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ed#p439221
and
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ed#p439239
I don't even remember what cases you or Daisy made on speed atm. Maybe I didn't weigh in. why does that matter?
OK big player, if you (and daisy) wanna take credit for the heavy lifting, that's fine. I tend to post cases on people, sometimes people skim them, sometimes they read them, often no one responds and I'm sitting there twiddling my thumbs. I brought up that speedchuck looked sus as fuck when he did GTH reads way back when, but had 2 people coming to his defense and no one really backing me up. So, yeah, I sat on my hands. Sometimes my cases aren't easily accessible or succinct enough for your average joe bloe to go, "hey, I can relate to that!"Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 11:54 pmYou should. I just put forth a case that (along with Daisy’s case) got a baddie lynched. You think you and TH prodded me a bit so I just decided to make a massive case on my scumbuddy?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 11:50 pmI think you're going over my head. Should I "know" your alignment? I don't know what you're actually implying.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 11:39 pm Haha. You’re joking calling me scum, right?
If you “don’t know” my alignment yet, that just makes me more certain about yours.
Show me the post where you’re interested in lynching Speedchuck yesterday or weighed in on my case or Daisy’s case. I’ve ISOed you. Those posts don’t exist.
Here's one I looked at in relation to nova:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ed#p439216
Here's some examples of where I said nova and speed should be lynched:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ed#p439221
and
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ed#p439239
I don't even remember what cases you or Daisy made on speed atm. Maybe I didn't weigh in. why does that matter?
Yeah, there are some links where you said Nova and Speed are bad together and voted Nova. I’m unconvinced. Show me the posts where you wanted Speedchuck lynched, not the posts where you wanted Nova lynched instead of Speedchuck.
Cause those were convincing cases that got a baddie lynched. You didn’t disagree with them. You just voted elsewhere.
With what, jack being that 2nd? I agree
huh? no. well... i guess maybe? that's not really what i meant, and also that doesn't really seem important
flfc = haven't seen it. you tell me plz
Strong defence for Colin here. That's it's own thing, I care more about Sloonei here. There's nothing abnormal with the vote Sloonei put on Colin Day 1. It was a pressure vote justified by Colin's presence in the thread with no contribution. It's different to the 10 other people for that very reason. dunya isn't so simple-minded as to ignore that. Hate this.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:19 pm Sloonei - I've heard the word sloppy being thrown around, and tbh, I think it applies to Sloonei most. The Colin vote reasoning was bad. He voted for him because he offered no thoughts? Yeah, Colin and about 10 other people at least. Apart from a nod to MP as town, and voting for Colin, I have no idea where Sloonei's head is at and that worries me. I get he's 5 pages behind, but even so, I'd say he has a good 7 pages of content and I would expect more. I do feel like he went back on the right track of Sloonei-like prodding right before he had to leave for work again, but I'd like to see more.
Tried to save Colin by putting Sloonei in the lead when it was tied. Have Marmot check his technicolour thingy - there was a lot of votes on these two names at the time. Not a lot of wiggle room left there. Friendly reminder that I restored equilibrium.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:48 am I am semi caught up but stuck in meetings with managers all day. I have some thoughts I'll share before end of day I promise.
I have broken the Colin and Sloonei tie. I had day 1 concerns about Sloonei and his ColinIsCool vote. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if it was early distancing masked as a pressure vote on day 1 after everyone questioned him about it.
I have more thoughts about Sloonei I'll share before eod. But for now, I have a bigger scum read on sloonei than Colin.
I have some questions for some Colin votes I'll ask later too.
Would be interesting to know whether the Colin lynch was already set in stone at this point. This vote means nothing if so.
I have no problems with this.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:19 pm speedchuck - I'd like to see more activity from speed, I'm wary of him in every game as a general rule. Heck, in FE I suggested we kill off rabbit8 an inactive just so speedchuck didn't replace him because I didn't want to face him. I know he's slick, but I also know people never give him much of a chance when he's town. I didn't like how he hadn't provided any reads or comments until his Town and Remainder list, but at least he was one of the first to offer that, so that's something. I hope I see more directed attention from speed on anyone (some people).
This is not an accusation.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 5:38 pmI feel like you want to read TH as town, either because he's your teammate or because his playstyle doesn't make sense to you as scum. That's why you keep excusing your unaquaintance with the playstyle.
But granting TH points for "paying attention to the thread" stood out to me.
Like
linki: yeah sorta ok
It was never meant to be.
This change of heart needs to be addressed.
Timing is important here. If he was among the first votes on Sloonei I can interpret it as Scotty wanting to encourage multiple wagons (not a bad look). If it was later on he's just contradicting himself.
Says this, doesn't mention speedchuck again until Day 5.