JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:39 pm
Why I am a civilian:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:32 pm
Choutas wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:48 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:14 pm
Choutas wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:01 pm
I use chrome maybe its a settings issue.
Anyhow lets get to business.
Cool. What do you think of rabbits?
Also, the game
Theyre cute but they make terrible meat so a no for me.
The game has started in a mild manner we need to stir things up. Force people to read others.
As for Day one Mac i think hes right into the role.
I agree. Few people have taken less advantage of the stirring up of thing that has happened since.
I don't know what this is.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:14 pm
In Ancient Greece, Choutas got off to a slow start. He didn't hesitate to make game-relevant comments though, and he was incisive.
Ancient Greece Choutas ISO
This time he has given much less in the way of reads, and doesn't seem oriented toward getting to a place where he can have reads.
Easter Choutas ISO
Choutas hails from RYM, the same place I came from originally. He hasn't played much Mafia in recent memory after RYM:OT's demise. This is only his third game or so on The Syndicate, and to my knowledge it's his first time aligned with a mafia faction. This is his opportunity to show what he can do, to make a mark, and to impress.
He and I go way back. So how do I treat him in this opportunity of his?
I sure as hell don't bus him out of nowhere, with numerous other names in discussion as candidates (some of whom i.e. Elohcin I actively resisted in favor of Choutas). I brought him into the dialogue. I provided the meat of the case against him. I motivated the bandwagon. I turned away the other candidates.
I didn't do that for fucking town credit. That's so lame. If I had been a mafioso with Choutas AND Colin in this game, both old RYM mates, I would have loved the chance to dig deep with them and show what we can do. I don't throw Choutas in the damned dumpster right away. Nobody can tell me he asked for it either, because he has been watching this thing ever since he died. Even now five cycles later he has voted in the dead option to monitor events. He's been available to play, and absolutely did not deny him that privilege. It would have been shitty, boring, and strategically foolish. No.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 7:54 pm
I hate bussing my teammates and have never done it on Day 1 in my Mafia career. It “can” work, but on balance it’s a net negative. I don’t engage in foolery and tricks when there is no need. I lynch civilians and I win.
I cannot hunt without an opportunity to comb ISOs and discuss topics live. Ideally I’ll have my chance later, but if I do end up lynched I have a fucking demand.
If you’re a civilian and you lynched me, especially if your name is M Plus 7, you will follow these instructions:
1. You will not wallow in misery and frustration.
2. You will not lament your mistake.
3. You will not allow yourself to give anything away to the mafia team.
4. You will transform your bad feelings about murdering me into increased intensity and will to win.
5. You will hunt without mercy, and without regard for having been wrong about me.
6. You will lynch those who give you no inspiration.
7. You will not lynch those who do unless you have truly uncovered a sound and plausible case.
8. You will do this in my memory, for you will have ripped my control over ending my losing streak from my grasp and shouldered it yourself.
9. You will not let me down.
I'm not going to tell you that this post on its own power makes me a civilian. There's a lot of WIFOM in that and I won't ask you to contend with that. Instead, I am just going to explain to you exactly where my head was at when I made it and allow you to judge for yourself.
At this point in the game, MP was hounding me with considerable suspicion, and I wasn't available often enough to contend with it as much as I would have liked. Given that, and given that his suspicion did catch on at least with some players, I thought there was a reasonable chance I'd be lynched. That possibility really bothered me, but not merely because I would be a mislynch. Rather, it was the specific circumstances which spelled serious long-term problems for the civilian faction.
I am a loud and effortful contributor. I'm gone.
The primary voice driving that lynch is another loud and effortful contributor. I had a feeling that if I got lynched, my civilian flip would have really bad ramifications -- MP would immediately lose his confidence, become rattled, and settle back into a less active game state as a result. That'd amount to the two most dedicated solvers both being removed from the equation, at least in part, in one move. That can lose the game by itself.
So I tried to intervene, not just to "defend myself", but to resist that eventuality. I wanted to take the opportunity to give MP the proper infusion of motivation, something he could return to after my destruction to help him maintain course. If I had been lynched, the civilians would have needed him more than ever at his best. I wanted him at his best.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 9:12 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 1:02 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:54 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:54 pm
I’m not frustrated. I’m confident that I’ve got your number here.
I've an exercise for you.
~ If Marmot is a lying mafioso, who is his teammate?
~ If Marmot is being truthful, who are the two mafia?
I am not a “cart-before-horse” style player
so I don’t hunt for teammates until I have one confirmed. And I don’t have time right now for a complete ISO but I did see interactions between he and Dizzy that felt strange on his end. I would have to do an analysis on Dizzy’s posts to guarantee that.
I don’t think Marmot is being truthful, but my bad feeling about lap persists (especially because the night and day difference I saw was actually a game where she was civ.)
If you're Keith Shover, you had one confirmed.
If I don't make this post, I think Marmot gets lynched. He had a 5-0 tally lead. If I am mafia and I know Colin is the bullshitter, I
love that. There is no way in hell that I turn this around if I don't have to. This is a specific-ass observation that probably doesn't exist in anyone else's post histories if I don't put it here. It's not some mastermind bus technique. It's stupidity.