World Flags Mafia GAME OVER - TOWN WINS

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mac is bad. He screwed off until his life was in danger, and then opened up his own Aussie butthole durin theg legitimate mafia-can-hunt period to get out of trouble. Since the demise of the Dictators, he really hasn't done much. He's guilty of the very thing he tried to pin on me yesterday.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

wtaf is going on

This post is pure trash. Kill him.

[DFaraday]

Also, is it night? Why is the poll still going?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also, is it night? Why is the poll still going?

Unique deadline forced the poll to be wack. It's night.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

MacDougall and speedchuck

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I am the cop and I got a red peek on Epi

You keep saying that

But the only way you got a red peek on epi is if he's on your team.
#fact

No.

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Looking at the poll, I have no idea what the case on Mac is. Can someone on that train summarize?

Hey who can tell me why Mac has votes? I have seen nothing on him.

Implied defense via ignorance.

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For the record, I'm voting DDL because I don't see town in his posts, I don't see much engagement in his posts, and he wouldn't even be fun to shoot. That's my ideal D1 lynch.

Mac would be fun to shoot. Dunya too, as well as, Jack, Nutella, Pou, Sloon, Jay, and maybe Quin. (This is not a salad, as these are not scumreads. They are just people that have been discussed and might be fun to point a gun at.)

'Course I still have to get a gun, and not get shot first. But if everything falls into place, I can wave it around like a madman and THEN get shot.

"Hey we could shoot Mac! Or, if you prefer, one of these other literally seven people." nudge nudge wink wink

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I will in fact vote Mac to save Pou, though.

I don't know where speedchuck's vote actually ended up. [mention]sprityo[/mention], do we have polls? I don't care about this very much anyway.

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What happened to speedchuck voting me to save poutanko?

I have like 3 hours to do that.

Should I not? I've only seen like 2 of your posts.

I'm a fine lynch candidate if you are Mafia. If you are a civilian not so.

I am in fact a civilian. It follows that you are not a fine lynch candidate.

That presents a problem.

This is nothing banter disguised as relevance.

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NOBODY GAVE ME A GUN!

You sounded like a granny

I told everyone I wasn't the granny though!

speedchuck did not sound like a granny. Bullshit. Why is the granny trying so hard to look bad? That draws civilian visits. This is fake and they talked about it in BTSC.

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Points Against:

Nearly got lynched yesterday (generally suspicious to most).
Epi AND DDL interactions are on the nose.
Has motive as Dunya killer.

NiGhTkIlL aNaLySiS iS wOrThLeSs

Seriously though, as a proponent of nightkill analysis, I still don't see Scum Pou. Her nearly getting lynched yesterday was stupid, as you yourself (I think) pointed out. Plenty of people had motive to kill Dunya, she's a prolific town player.

And DDL didn't interact much with anyone, and Epi townread a lot of people.

Neutral chatter about night kill shit. Meh.

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What happened to speedchuck voting me to save poutanko?

First thing Mac actually says about speed. Token gentle distancing. No meaningful pressure applied. Garbo. Indeed, I'm now through page three of Mac's posts and this is fucking it until that granny nonsense. Gross.

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Civilians: dunya, Jack
Mafia: speedchuck, leetic, nova

I scanned his history and otherwise only found three actual "suspicions" apart from this little list: Sloonei, Long Con, MacDougall (and LC hardly counts).

I never want to hear about this dude's tone again. He did nothing and probably ended up night killed for his civilian credit.

I thought his suspicion of Nova was fairly genuine.

Mac cares about Epi's old suspicion of nova, but not his old suspicion of speedchuck.

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The only thing I like about Jay right now is that his vote is on speedchuck who I definitely can see as Mafia.

The authenticity of this post can be scored as a negative number. Hell no.

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I am realizing right now that I cannot be playing Mafia. I just scheduled my thesis proposal, and every moment I exist in this game is a detriment to my future. I am going to shoot my gun now. It might kill me.

Give me names immediately.

Nutella, Colin, Speedchuck

When I ask for names to shoot, Mac gives me a garden salad only featuring a dollop of speedchuck dressing.

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Die! [VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine!

"Die!" looks fake, and the vote is worth nothing to me. The game is being solved around claims, of which Mac has not control or inclusion, and bussing is the only way.

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Bad looks galore.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I want responses to this immediately.

[nutella]

I dig it. Do you think Luna is compatible with him? At this point I'd be very surprised if she was town but this is really compelling too

[novaselinenever]

Compelling stuff. I liked the bit with him caring about Epi's suspicion of me (that was based on me refusing to talk to him like he was a 5 y.o lol), but not Speedchuck. I think he ended up going back to it though when Speedchuck became a consensus target. It should be somewhere there.

[novaselinenever]

Who's the third though? I'm not sold on Audrey being Mac-dependent.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Who's the third though? I'm not sold on Audrey being Mac-dependent.

It doesn't have to be her. A number of candidates arise. My cursory look told me the only poor compatibility prospect for Mac was Luna (which itself demands reassessment).

[JaggedJimmyJay]

All game long Mac be like "lynch Quins! Shoot the Quins! The Quins are bad!"

Then we do that, he flips civilian, and Mac says "wtaf is going on"

Burn

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Epi and Jack also killed dunya I think.

The question becomes who killed epi.

Points For Poutanko:

Points Against:

Nearly got lynched yesterday (generally suspicious to most).
Epi AND DDL interactions are on the nose.
Has motive as Dunya killer.

Dunya's ISO is the smoking gun btw.

Mac is really interested in the dunya kill.

Click this fucking spoiler.

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[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

I didn't like that Mac post where he tells nutella he's "clearly" joking. Not in line with day 0 day 1 soul reads of man. Would shoot him over that rn probs.

The Mafia are Epi, JJJ, Dunya, Jack, Sloonei and Nutella.

Gameset.

Has there ever been a game where all of the mafia were the top posters? I don't think so. This is exposure bias. You are forgetting that there are several low-lying players in this game who could easily have scum role cards and have not had occasion to bare themselves in the open yet. The day 1 thread environment so far has funneled attention onto a few select people, making it a piece of cake for others to slide by unscrutinized.

... do I need to point out that I was only joking? Really?

this, i didn't like this.

you do these gut reads every game. you correctly guessed the 2 scum and 1 indie in GG on day 0. why were we to think you were joking this time?

novaselinenever - poop
Dragon D. Luffy - not poop
nutella - not poop
sabie12 - not poop
dunya - 24k gold
speedchuck - poop
Long Con - poop
Jackofhearts2005 - big poop
Sloonei - poopish
Lunalee - poop
MacDougall - poopish
Matahari - poop
DFaraday - not poop
leetic - not poop
Quin - poop
AudreyTheTattletail - not poop
ColinIsCool - poopish
Epignosis - not poop, gold plated
ts account - not poop
JaggedJimmyJay - not poop, bronzish

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The Mafia are Epi, JJJ, Dunya, Jack, Sloonei and Nutella.

Gameset.

Has there ever been a game where all of the mafia were the top posters? I don't think so. This is exposure bias. You are forgetting that there are several low-lying players in this game who could easily have scum role cards and have not had occasion to bare themselves in the open yet. The day 1 thread environment so far has funneled attention onto a few select people, making it a piece of cake for others to slide by unscrutinized.

... do I need to point out that I was only joking? Really?

this, i didn't like this.

you do these gut reads every game. you correctly guessed the 2 scum and 1 indie in GG on day 0. why were we to think you were joking this time?

Are you serious?

oh, you thought i was joking? ok let me put my serious face on for you.

Gth read

Mac
Audrey

bad
bad

ohh i lingered on audrey, maybe it's the too many "plz" she used.

i could see mac and audrey on the same baddie team. mac addressing her itt as though it's their first mafia game together but it isn't.

and then there's mac who isn't making an effort and could be sidelining it.

Hey who can tell me why Mac has votes? I have seen nothing on him.

because he's pooping around. people are shaking in their boots.

if anything, that post made me feel like civ lunalee is feeling sorry for someone who's actively trying to defend herself and falling on deaf ears. macdougall isn't even trying to defend. i like her rationale very much.

This argument is horse poop.

Mac is sleeping.

mac wasn't sleeping. mac has had ample reason to start playing and defending himself properly and he hasn't. why are you defending mac?

Get your votes off Poutanko and myself and actually try you shits.

i don't trust your judgement reading any female player.

i don't trust your judgement at all because there's no way you read why we have our voted on her either.

I haven't. I don't have to. Even if she is Mafia her lynch is a fluke and based on nothing.

but you didn't read why i have my vote on her. how do you know it's a fluke based on nothing?

Why does Luna have three votes? Why does DDL have four votes?

Lunalee has made some skewiff defences of Dunya and she also got her vote onto me in a post in which she said I looked good but she wanted to save Pout and we were tied. This was about 12 hours before the deadline.

DDL I can't really explain. I did ISO him and find him a bit scummy at first but then the way that he progressed from suspecting me to diving on Lunalee for something that involved me didn't make sense for a scum.

Who cares if it was 12 hours before deadline? Maybe she was busy? She has a life y'know.

I feel worse about Mac and Jay this round.

Aubergine Mac

I think Mac did busywork this afternoon by setting people on tasks. I think Mac is bad.

I'm not voting DDL to save myself.

Play a violin in the background pls.

MacDougall - something very ungenuine about him. he's saying all the "right" things to the point where they don't feel like macdougall. except for the part where he told me to sit on a banana.

in case i die, my 2 strongest suspects today are leetic and sabie, followed by poutanko.

then in order:
MacD
Jackofhearts2005
ts account
Quin
AudreyTheTattleTail
Long Con

if i had to be wrong about one of my town reads i'd pick nutella, because the player salad is a real concern and she has documented priors.

Gee, I wonder why Mac was interested in the dunya kill. Coward.

[novaselinenever]

Who's the third though? I'm not sold on Audrey being Mac-dependent.

It doesn't have to be her. A number of candidates arise. My cursory look told me the only poor compatibility prospect for Mac was Luna (which itself demands reassessment).

What do you think about his compatibility with our very own Nutella? He was prodding my case on her, and kind of highjacked using the angled of her response to it or lack thereof.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Who's the third though? I'm not sold on Audrey being Mac-dependent.

It doesn't have to be her. A number of candidates arise. My cursory look told me the only poor compatibility prospect for Mac was Luna (which itself demands reassessment).

What do you think about his compatibility with our very own Nutella? He was prodding my case on her, and kind of highjacked using the angled of her response to it or lack thereof.

I called it yellow. It's conceivable. When time permits I need to review these interactions more closely.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Get in here and hunt right this instant.

[ColinIsCool]

Outed gunsmiths like myself: if we give our guns to the same person, the extras get wasted, right? We have enough "confirmed Civs" to give each a gun and get this thing done with a mass execution. Is that just a crazy idea with a huge flaw? Maybe. Just deciding who's getting my gun tonight, and the thought came to me. So... DFaraday and Colin? Is that right?

No, not a gunsmith.

[ColinIsCool]

I like that Mac case.

[sabie12]

Outed gunsmiths like myself: if we give our guns to the same person, the extras get wasted, right? We have enough "confirmed Civs" to give each a gun and get this thing done with a mass execution. Is that just a crazy idea with a huge flaw? Maybe. Just deciding who's getting my gun tonight, and the thought came to me. So... DFaraday and Colin? Is that right?

No, not a gunsmith.

Santas have a gun to give out as well if they haven't done so already.


I'm still thinking Luna could be bad and I was suspicious of mac in the beginning and he has been pretty adamant about quin. Then when quin flipped town he was just like idk what's going on, but as I said it seems like no one really cares that quin got mislynched. Not even quin himself. The case against mac is plausible though and I could see him potentially being bad as well.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Quin’s lynch is a bummer, but it opens the game. We were getting too comfortable and complacent. His flip allows us to reorient and find the discrepancies in our prior mindsets (like Mac).

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I want to be clear. I am not saying “maybe Mac needs a new look”. I’m not saying “I’m tinfoiling on Mac”.

Mac is my top suspect.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Those who like the Mac case -- find me the third mafioso.

[Sloonei]

I want to be clear. I am not saying “maybe Mac needs a new look”. I’m not saying “I’m tinfoiling on Mac”.

Mac is my top suspect.

What about his end of day 1 behavior?

I’ve never been able to confidently identify scum mac, but i’ve correctly identified town mac a few times. I felt like this was one of them, but I can’t say I have an entirely comprehensive view of things. Some of those speedchuck interactions aren’t pretty, especially considering Mac is usually one of the most aggressive poo-flingers in town.

I’d like to see him respond to your case.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I want to be clear. I am not saying “maybe Mac needs a new look”. I’m not saying “I’m tinfoiling on Mac”.

Mac is my top suspect.

What about his end of day 1 behavior?

I’ve never been able to confidently identify scum mac, but i’ve correctly identified town mac a few times. I felt like this was one of them, but I can’t say I have an entirely comprehensive view of things. Some of those speedchuck interactions aren’t pretty, especially considering Mac is usually one of the most aggressive poo-flingers in town.

I’d like to see him respond to your case.

I thought he looked good then too. It easier to look good when you don't know all of the mafia. His strategic perspectives about how to hunt just parroted mine, and that shift he made on sabie that you and I talked about hasn't really amounted to anything in the long run.

His refusal to vote to save himself was irrelevant too, because he knew that you and/or I would do it for him. We were eager to lynch either Luna or DDL and we were eager to prevent a Mac lynch.

[Sloonei]

This is true. We really telegraphed our intentions to not lynch mac, which would have made it easy for him to play the virtue card.

[MacDougall]

Mac is bad. He screwed off until his life was in danger, and then opened up his own Aussie butthole durin theg legitimate mafia-can-hunt period to get out of trouble. Since the demise of the Dictators, he really hasn't done much. He's guilty of the very thing he tried to pin on me yesterday.

I spent all day in the sun handing out how to vote cards and then went to sleep

[MacDougall]

All game long Mac be like "lynch Quins! Shoot the Quins! The Quins are bad!"

Then we do that, he flips civilian, and Mac says "wtaf is going on"

Burn

The wtaf is going on comment was because I didn't understand why the poll was open.

I am not bad. You are incorrect el capitan.

[MacDougall]

I want to be clear. I am not saying “maybe Mac needs a new look”. I’m not saying “I’m tinfoiling on Mac”.

Mac is my top suspect.

What about his end of day 1 behavior?

I’ve never been able to confidently identify scum mac, but i’ve correctly identified town mac a few times. I felt like this was one of them, but I can’t say I have an entirely comprehensive view of things. Some of those speedchuck interactions aren’t pretty, especially considering Mac is usually one of the most aggressive poo-flingers in town.

I’d like to see him respond to your case.

I thought he looked good then too. It easier to look good when you don't know all of the mafia. His strategic perspectives about how to hunt just parroted mine, and that shift he made on sabie that you and I talked about hasn't really amounted to anything in the long run.

His refusal to vote to save himself was irrelevant too, because he knew that you and/or I would do it for him. We were eager to lynch either Luna or DDL and we were eager to prevent a Mac lynch.

No

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Emotionless.

[MacDougall]

MacDougall and speedchuck

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I am the cop and I got a red peek on Epi

You keep saying that

But the only way you got a red peek on epi is if he's on your team.
#fact

No.

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Looking at the poll, I have no idea what the case on Mac is. Can someone on that train summarize?

Hey who can tell me why Mac has votes? I have seen nothing on him.

Implied defense via ignorance.

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For the record, I'm voting DDL because I don't see town in his posts, I don't see much engagement in his posts, and he wouldn't even be fun to shoot. That's my ideal D1 lynch.

Mac would be fun to shoot. Dunya too, as well as, Jack, Nutella, Pou, Sloon, Jay, and maybe Quin. (This is not a salad, as these are not scumreads. They are just people that have been discussed and might be fun to point a gun at.)

'Course I still have to get a gun, and not get shot first. But if everything falls into place, I can wave it around like a madman and THEN get shot.

"Hey we could shoot Mac! Or, if you prefer, one of these other literally seven people." nudge nudge wink wink

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I will in fact vote Mac to save Pou, though.

I don't know where speedchuck's vote actually ended up. @sprityo, do we have polls? I don't care about this very much anyway.

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What happened to speedchuck voting me to save poutanko?

I have like 3 hours to do that.

Should I not? I've only seen like 2 of your posts.

I'm a fine lynch candidate if you are Mafia. If you are a civilian not so.

I am in fact a civilian. It follows that you are not a fine lynch candidate.

That presents a problem.

This is nothing banter disguised as relevance.

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NOBODY GAVE ME A GUN!

You sounded like a granny

I told everyone I wasn't the granny though!

speedchuck did not sound like a granny. Bullshit. Why is the granny trying so hard to look bad? That draws civilian visits. This is fake and they talked about it in BTSC.

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Points Against:

Nearly got lynched yesterday (generally suspicious to most).
Epi AND DDL interactions are on the nose.
Has motive as Dunya killer.

NiGhTkIlL aNaLySiS iS wOrThLeSs

Seriously though, as a proponent of nightkill analysis, I still don't see Scum Pou. Her nearly getting lynched yesterday was stupid, as you yourself (I think) pointed out. Plenty of people had motive to kill Dunya, she's a prolific town player.

And DDL didn't interact much with anyone, and Epi townread a lot of people.

Neutral chatter about night kill shit. Meh.

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What happened to speedchuck voting me to save poutanko?

First thing Mac actually says about speed. Token gentle distancing. No meaningful pressure applied. Garbo. Indeed, I'm now through page three of Mac's posts and this is fucking it until that granny nonsense. Gross.

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Civilians: dunya, Jack
Mafia: speedchuck, leetic, nova

I scanned his history and otherwise only found three actual "suspicions" apart from this little list: Sloonei, Long Con, MacDougall (and LC hardly counts).

I never want to hear about this dude's tone again. He did nothing and probably ended up night killed for his civilian credit.

I thought his suspicion of Nova was fairly genuine.

Mac cares about Epi's old suspicion of nova, but not his old suspicion of speedchuck.

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The only thing I like about Jay right now is that his vote is on speedchuck who I definitely can see as Mafia.

The authenticity of this post can be scored as a negative number. Hell no.

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I am realizing right now that I cannot be playing Mafia. I just scheduled my thesis proposal, and every moment I exist in this game is a detriment to my future. I am going to shoot my gun now. It might kill me.

Give me names immediately.

Nutella, Colin, Speedchuck

When I ask for names to shoot, Mac gives me a garden salad only featuring a dollop of speedchuck dressing.

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Die! [VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine!

"Die!" looks fake, and the vote is worth nothing to me. The game is being solved around claims, of which Mac has not control or inclusion, and bussing is the only way.

~~~

Bad looks galore.

I don't understand any of this case. You are forcing what should be good looks for me into a world view you want to exist.

I wanted speedchuck's head. I was happy to see him die.

I have been playing an excellent civilian game.

[MacDougall]

Emotionless.

So?

Why don't you use the orb I gave you on me dickface

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't understand any of this case. You are forcing what should be good looks for me into a world view you want to exist.

Why do I "want" you to be bad? I don't give a shit who's bad as long as they are lynched. Nobody else seems to be struggling to understand. Why are any of those things good looks?

I wanted speedchuck's head. I was happy to see him die.

There is no evidence of that.

I have been playing an excellent civilian game.

I don't care about this sentence.

[MacDougall]

Cool job Jay

[MacDougall]

Jay wants me to be bad because Jay likes being right. Jay decided I was bad in a skim and then went back to confirm his ping. Good for Jay.

[MacDougall]

All you Jay sheep that just followed this trash case need to quit hero worshipping. Especially you sloonei you coward.

[MacDougall]

Outed gunsmiths like myself: if we give our guns to the same person, the extras get wasted, right? We have enough "confirmed Civs" to give each a gun and get this thing done with a mass execution. Is that just a crazy idea with a huge flaw? Maybe. Just deciding who's getting my gun tonight, and the thought came to me. So... DFaraday and Colin? Is that right?

No, not a gunsmith.

Santas have a gun to give out as well if they haven't done so already.


I'm still thinking Luna could be bad and I was suspicious of mac in the beginning and he has been pretty adamant about quin. Then when quin flipped town he was just like idk what's going on, but as I said it seems like no one really cares that quin got mislynched. Not even quin himself. The case against mac is plausible though and I could see him potentially being bad as well.

[MacDougall]

Where u at Jay?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Emotionless.

So?

Why don't you use the orb I gave you on me dickface

Barring a counterclaim, Mac is a nearly-confirmed civilian.

On Night 1, I received the following:

2 Vests (1 claimed by poutanko), 1 gun (fake, had to be speedchuck), and 1 orb.

The dictators couldn't have given me anything. Their fabricator died Day 1. The communists did give me a fake gun. They couldn't have given me a fake gun and a fake orb simultaneously.

Cool beans.

[MacDougall]

I dig it. Do you think Luna is compatible with him? At this point I'd be very surprised if she was town but this is really compelling too

Die

[MacDougall]

Emotionless.

So?

Why don't you use the orb I gave you on me dickface

Barring a counterclaim, Mac is a nearly-confirmed civilian.

On Night 1, I received the following:

2 Vests (1 claimed by poutanko), 1 gun (fake, had to be speedchuck), and 1 orb.

The dictators couldn't have given me anything. Their fabricator died Day 1. The communists did give me a fake gun. They couldn't have given me a fake gun and a fake orb simultaneously.

Cool beans.

Oh yay. I hope you can win without me.

[MacDougall]

What day is it. Why is the poll open?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What day is it. Why is the poll open?

It's Night 2. The poll is expired, ignore it.

[MacDougall]

Why is nutella a civilian?

[novaselinenever]

I dig it. Do you think Luna is compatible with him? At this point I'd be very surprised if she was town but this is really compelling too

Die

Preach.

Linki - she ain't

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The world where Mac is not a civilian:

He didn't give me the orb and someone else did. He correctly guessed that someone would give me one and took a shot at it. The true santa in such a world would then have to be a living counterclaim or ts account.

[MacDougall]

Why is the fact that nutella has ignored Nova's advances been blown away. Does nobody else find that completely incompatible with what is known about town nutella?

Town nutella in my mind would be furious at Nova and coming for his head no?

Her response to this accusation before Gun Fever took over looked pretty timid.

Timid = what?

Bad

Did Sloonei go anywhere with this?

Linki: Just drop it Jay. You ruined my Santa fun.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why is nutella a civilian?

She isn't. Nobody is left.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Linki: Just drop it Jay. You ruined my Santa fun.

don't care

[MacDougall]

Linki: Just drop it Jay. You ruined my Santa fun.

don't care

You shouldn't

[MacDougall]

@Lunalee what’s the strongest piece of evidence for or against Quin?

I suspect Quin because his under-the-radar play style this game doesn't give me much to go off of, and he did not mention or interact with speedchuck at all (looks like teammate distancing).

Why does Quin have your vote instead of nova and everybody else?

Sloonei knew Quin was flipping civ?

Why is Sloonei a civ?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Lunalee
novaselinenever
nutella ----------------> Long Con / DFaraday
sabie12
Sloonei