Arrowverse Mafia - Day 8

[Sloonei]

Good hurl, Jacky boy.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[Sloonei]

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] and [mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] are the players we seem to be hinging on the most. We collectively seem unsure of what to do with each of them, and some elucidation on reads and things from them could potentially open things up a lot.

I have no specific questions for these two, but any amount of reads they can supply would be extremely helpful. This day needs more content.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Lol so I looked it up and Creature was town when he got himself modkilled.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Trolling another site's discord for gossip to help me read a replaced out player.

"Hunting."

[Jackofhearts2005]

*trawling*

[Sloonei]

Lol so I looked it up and Creature was town when he got himself modkilled.

lol.

this doesn't change much about my read of the player slot.

[Epignosis]

I'm tired, but I'm going to have a nightcap and cogitate. I'm hoping I can offer something of substance today.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm going to have a nightcap and cogitate.

Gross.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention]
Your avatar looks like a MTG card.

[VOTE: Lux] aubergine

[Epignosis]

ColinisCool is not my preferred lynch today. I found Dragomir to be a civilian, and I stand by that as of now. I can't find a solid reason to believe any of his voters are civilians either outside of perhaps DDL. Colin may be one of the independents, but that's a damn dart throw, and I'm not throwing darts at this point.

I gave reasons for a positive opinion regarding DDL. That said, I do not have the best track record with him, so take my view with a grain of salt or the whole Morton company. It isn't a strong opinion, but I find him to be a low-priority lynch option today.

DrWilgy I have a good feeling about. Nothing solid, but I don't feel the need to go there either.

I get the sense that Dys subbed into a shitty situation and making lemonade out of moldy lemons is the order of the day. This is a good default lynch if nothing better arises.

I have no interest in lynching a dedicated Funnygirl at this time.

I have no interest in lynching Jack.

Long Con is someone I have moderate interest in lynching. I've been thinking about the Deathstroke kill. Would Long Con have been keen on a juliets kill? I suspect so. At any rate, I have him penciled in as one of the independents regardless.

Lux I would lynch. There's so much in those posts I don't regard as genuine.

MacDougall is a fart in the wind. You can't lynch farts though, so I wouldn't try at this point unless he turned into a turd. You can lynch a turd.

I would lynch nutella again. And again. And again.

Sloonei needs a job.

sprityo is someone I need to think about more.

I cannot ever recall Spacedaisy phoning it in like this. If she's bad, I believe she would not accept the win if her team won. I don't think there's any meat on this bone.

I had high hopes and lofty opinions of Ultra, but they have dwindled. I am not ready to hang yet, but the rope is being looked at in the Sears and Roebuck catalogue.

[Long Con]

@DrWilgy
Your avatar looks like a MTG card.

[VOTE: Lux] aubergine

It's the new Ashiok.

[Epignosis]

Regarding Dragomir, Long Con cited a "TMI defense of nutella."

Okay?

We know that's silly, notwithstanding that with two teams in play, there is no such thing as "TMI."

This was a bullshit accusation.

What part do you not buy? I don’t need you to agree with my case, but it seems like you’re disagreeing with it by virtue of flat out misunderstanding, and I compulsively need to bridge that gap.

Sometimes mafia make mistakes. Sometimes they are not authentic. I try to catch them being not authentic. That is what I accused nutella of.

Don't buy her subconsciously slipping like that. Sounds like a stretch.

This is suspicious stuff from Dragomir. First of all, just because Sloon said that a phony tone could "slip into her posts", that's a far cry from her actually slipping in some way. It's a tone read, not a slip. Is this a cultural misunderstanding of the ways to use the word "slip"? Comes off as hamfisted deliberate misunderstanding, and, coupled with a possible TMI defense of nutella, it's suspicious.

I thought he was saying that she actually slipped there, wasn't thinking tone read but thanks for the clear up.

TMI? Where?

Enh, your recent Civ-read of her to Sloon, which is pretty unsupported... that opinion was bolstered by your part in Slipgate, but if you truly misunderstood Sloonei's post then I can back-burner it for now.

Day Zero, surface-level... that is legit enough to me. We all need our Day Zero warmup suspicions though, so I'm your #1 fan right now.

LC, I'm trying to understand the scum read on Drago. In the post above he asks you what the TMI on nutella means. I think your response is the "Day Zero, surface level...that is legit enough to me" sentence. Can you be more specific? I don't understand what you means by "surface level" - are you referring to a post he made?

Actually, the answer to Drac was "your recent Civ-read of her to Sloon, which is pretty unsupported... that opinion was bolstered by your part in Slipgate".

"Day Zero, surface level...that is legit enough to me" - that's more talking about my suspicion of Draco - it's legit enough for me to want to keep an eye on him and not put him in my hypothetical green column.

juliets questioned Long Con about his accusation. She died.

I believe Long Con is Deathstroke.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@DrWilgy
Your avatar looks like a MTG card.

[VOTE: Lux] aubergine

It's the new Ashiok.

I guessed right.

My favorite MTG character is Standard Blue Mage Jace.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Colin] aubergine

I'm going to follow Luffy's lead and vote for Colin. [VOTE: Colin] aubergine

[Epignosis]

Cfd DDL anyone?


He's missing his spark.

I'm game, I don't really like any of the vote leaders right now.

Agreed, Mac!

That "Checked Cooler's games on NF and he seems to be more active as both alignments although I'd venture to say inactivity here is slightly more scum telling" is wish-to-the-wash in all the wrong ways.

What about DDL and his "Save Cooler" campaign? It worked on me if I weren't so irresponsible.

DDL was a perfectly fine suspect when nutella was pushing him.

Now DDL is the leader LC wants to follow when Colin is up for lynching.

Nah.

[Long Con]

Long Con is someone I have moderate interest in lynching. I've been thinking about the Deathstroke kill. Would Long Con have been keen on a juliets kill? I suspect so. At any rate, I have him penciled in as one of the independents regardless.

I would not have been keen on a juliets kill at all. Call me sentimental, but juliets is one of the most special people here, and I would really feel like a jerk.

I don't know if there's a redirector in play, but if there is then any juliets-related Deathstroke theories could be dubious. It might be that only Prometheus has a potential redirect, but I doubt his power set includes that, because I doubt it progresses his Indy win con.

[Epignosis]

My scotch glass is empty, so I'll let you all discuss things while I slumber.

Good night all.

[Long Con]

Regarding Dragomir, Long Con cited a "TMI defense of nutella."

Okay?

We know that's silly, notwithstanding that with two teams in play, there is no such thing as "TMI."

This was a bullshit accusation.

Don't buy her subconsciously slipping like that. Sounds like a stretch.

This is suspicious stuff from Dragomir. First of all, just because Sloon said that a phony tone could "slip into her posts", that's a far cry from her actually slipping in some way. It's a tone read, not a slip. Is this a cultural misunderstanding of the ways to use the word "slip"? Comes off as hamfisted deliberate misunderstanding, and, coupled with a possible TMI defense of nutella, it's suspicious.

I thought he was saying that she actually slipped there, wasn't thinking tone read but thanks for the clear up.

TMI? Where?

Enh, your recent Civ-read of her to Sloon, which is pretty unsupported... that opinion was bolstered by your part in Slipgate, but if you truly misunderstood Sloonei's post then I can back-burner it for now.

Day Zero, surface-level... that is legit enough to me. We all need our Day Zero warmup suspicions though, so I'm your #1 fan right now.

LC, I'm trying to understand the scum read on Drago. In the post above he asks you what the TMI on nutella means. I think your response is the "Day Zero, surface level...that is legit enough to me" sentence. Can you be more specific? I don't understand what you means by "surface level" - are you referring to a post he made?

Actually, the answer to Drac was "your recent Civ-read of her to Sloon, which is pretty unsupported... that opinion was bolstered by your part in Slipgate".

"Day Zero, surface level...that is legit enough to me" - that's more talking about my suspicion of Draco - it's legit enough for me to want to keep an eye on him and not put him in my hypothetical green column.

juliets questioned Long Con about his accusation. She died.

I believe Long Con is Deathstroke.

The TMI correction was legit, and I own the fact that my logic was flawed. I think nutella also was questioning the TMI-flawed logic... I didn't really feel threatened by those pointing it out. I am not Deathstroke.

[Long Con]

My scotch glass is empty, so I'll let you all discuss things while I slumber.

Good night all.

Good night. I'm going for one more refill before bed.

[Spacedaisy]

Alright guys, life has slowed down for me a bit now so someone catch me up, what's happening in here?

[Sloonei]

Alright guys, life has slowed down for me a bit now so someone catch me up, what's happening in here?

We lynched Team 1 but Team 2 could still be at full strength for all we know, so you can basically treat this as Day 1 if you want.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Alright guys, life has slowed down for me a bit now so someone catch me up, what's happening in here?

We caught Dizzy up a few pages back so you can iso her and start at their first post to run into several thread summaries.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Switching pronouns mid post and it’s 1 am = time to go to bed.

[MacDougall]

@Dragon D. Luffy and @ColinIsCool are the players we seem to be hinging on the most. We collectively seem unsure of what to do with each of them, and some elucidation on reads and things from them could potentially open things up a lot.

I have no specific questions for these two, but any amount of reads they can supply would be extremely helpful. This day needs more content.

I thought the way Duffy handled the Nutella lynch was pretty indicative of a panicking scum, then a jubilant one. He was just throwing his vote around everywhere and flailing.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[VOTE: Ultra] aubergine

Let's see what happens here.

I know he's probably not posting because of GoC but I really don't wanna give the pass to someone because of that.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I dunno I haven't felt great about him since Day 0.

[ColinIsCool]

@Dragon D. Luffy and @ColinIsCool are the players we seem to be hinging on the most. We collectively seem unsure of what to do with each of them, and some elucidation on reads and things from them could potentially open things up a lot.

I have no specific questions for these two, but any amount of reads they can supply would be extremely helpful. This day needs more content.

AMA

[Dyslexicon]

Day is ending in 12+ hours right?

[Dyslexicon]

It's bothering me that DDL has written off Dizzy as unlynchable. Reeks of reverse TMI like DDL is Ra's and Dizzy is the one he needs to not be lynched. But generally I townread DDL. DDL being "weird" could mean "DDL is the sker." He just seems oddly confident of things but at least one of those things (town Nutella) turned out to be false. He's also softing...something. Should I just townread him for that? That's lazy but shit Syndicaters rarely even falseclaim or falsehint.

I don't like this stuff. I don't get it either really. Can you soft stuff in this game. I can be soft. =P

Does anyone follow this?

[Dyslexicon]

LC feels like LC feels when LC is town, to me.

These two are the strongest outtakes from what I read.

[Jackofhearts2005]

It's bothering me that DDL has written off Dizzy as unlynchable. Reeks of reverse TMI like DDL is Ra's and Dizzy is the one he needs to not be lynched. But generally I townread DDL. DDL being "weird" could mean "DDL is the sker." He just seems oddly confident of things but at least one of those things (town Nutella) turned out to be false. He's also softing...something. Should I just townread him for that? That's lazy but shit Syndicaters rarely even falseclaim or falsehint.

I don't like this stuff. I don't get it either really. Can you soft stuff in this game. I can be soft. =P

Does anyone follow this?

Yes and no.

See, I personally don’t like the “no claiming” rule that this game is using because it is very open ended.

Sprityo seems like an info gatherer and we get that from his posts. Is that “claiming”? What about DDL saying something like “You should have figured out who I am by now”? Is that “claiming?” (No, they’re not but I could certainly argue they are.)

I prefer fake claims with extra roles or multiple players being given the same role so everyone can claim without being confirmed or else some antitown mechanic that punishes townies for claiming. That way individual players don’t get to determine what is or isn’t over the line and the host never has to decide what is or isn’t a modkill.

[Sloonei]

Dragon D. Luffy and @ColinIsCool are the players we seem to be hinging on the most. We collectively seem unsure of what to do with each of them, and some elucidation on reads and things from them could potentially open things up a lot.

I have no specific questions for these two, but any amount of reads they can supply would be extremely helpful. This day needs more content.

AMA

What are your thoughts on each of the players voting for you?
What about all the other players?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I checked Creature's ISOs for suspicious interactions, and the ones with Jack pinged me the most.

Lol hi, Creature.

Hello, are you still randing scum?

This is why I prefer anticlaim to just no claiming rules.

Modkillable claims?

Hi I'm new how do I play?

idk, how do you play?

Only one forward for pawn; any horizontally or vertically for rook; L shape for knight; any diagonally for bishop; any horizontally, vertically or diagonally for queen; and one horizontally, vertically or diagonally for king.

I dig this cat.

Ya’ll are going to get along great.

Two of the most frustrating players.

What?

Also idk about my playstyle, it may change according to the game pace. Though I'm known for making 20+ posts in a row when I'm inspired enough.

Creature’s meta is that if he’s town, he’ll post a lot and I will probably try to lynch him anyhow.

What is your level of experience with this creature?

He's good at reading me




when he's mafia on a town v one mafia setup

This is why I prefer anticlaim to just no claiming rules.

Modkillable claims?

No, like if the scum figured out you were Ollie, they could just kill you.

That still wouldn't stop someone from claiming when in danger of being lynched.

Hi Jack

Hi Creature. How’re you?

Fine. How about the game?

I've called Ultra town pretty early, but still am fine to call him town.

I have you as town too.

Mac I can see the townreads on.

was mostly sadie I didn't know about on juliets' list.

What are your thoughts on Jack and Epignosis?

My experience with Jack makes me townlean him, but that's for doing absolutely nothing.

Epignosis idk. I don't remember liking his latest posts either.

Ultra town
Jackearts town
nutella town
Sloonei go town for now
Epignosis town

Friendly banter, game mechanics discussion, then more friendly banter. Then "I townlean him but thats for doing nothing". Then a salad. I'm betting one of the 5 in the salad is Creature's teammate, and right now I'm thinking it could be Jack.

You could say most of it is Day 0 but meanwhile Creature is calling Mac civ and attacking Epi and MafiaMenace. Actual reads. Not friendly distancing which is what these posts look like.

I should probably ISO Jack too. Later.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine before I forget

[Sloonei]

I have thoughts about that but I want Jack to respond first.

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy
Your avatar looks like a MTG card.

[VOTE: Lux] aubergine

It's the new Ashiok.

I guessed right.

My favorite MTG character is Standard Blue Mage Jace.

The new book ruined multiple characters for me. Jace included. RIP.

I think Liliana is still my favorite character in spite of her whole "My magic and lust for power are evil but I'm still good deep down" cliche.

Nahiri is a close 2nd.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine before I forget

Lol you must be joking.

[MacDougall]

Why are you voting on teammate basis when Dizzy hasn't even flipped?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Why are you voting on teammate basis when Dizzy hasn't even flipped?

Is it because he’s scum or not?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hurr durr Creature shoots the shit with the only player he knows. Maybe they’re scum together.

[Jackofhearts2005]

What if I [VOTE: DDL] aubergine? What will he do?

[Sloonei]

Hurr durr Creature shoots the shit with the only player he knows. Maybe they’re scum together.

This is the point I would make too. You’re the only person Creature knew coming in. I don’t read much into the two of you having some casual exchanges.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hurr durr Creature shoots the shit with the only player he knows. Maybe they’re scum together.

This is the point I would make too. You’re the only person Creature knew coming in. I don’t read much into the two of you having some casual exchanges.

What does it make you think of DDL though?

I’m pretty torn.

[Sloonei]

Hurr durr Creature shoots the shit with the only player he knows. Maybe they’re scum together.

This is the point I would make too. You’re the only person Creature knew coming in. I don’t read much into the two of you having some casual exchanges.

What does it make you think of DDL though?

I’m pretty torn.

His whole play the last two phases is weird, but weird doesn't always equal suspicious.

He pushed hard for Creature yesterday while saying that it wasn't going to happen. Then Creature was tied for the lead and he jumped to nutella, then back to Creature. Now today he's saying we shouldn't lynch Creaturecon because they're Ra's Al Ghul. I've never seen someone resist lynching their top candidate so hard.

[Sloonei]

which is to say i don't know what to do with him. Dyslexicon feels like the correct lynch today, both in terms of suspicion and figuring out what to do next. I don't know if any of DDL's behavior indicates a teammate pairing, or if he's hinting at information or what.

[sprityo]

i like ties

[Jackofhearts2005]

It’s possible Juliets was out super dee super one shot cop.

[Sloonei]

Players I absolutely will not vote for today:
Mac
Jack
sprit
Long Con
Epi

Players I doubt very strongly I could vote for today:
Colin
DDL

Players I am iffy about, but not directly considering voting for:
Ultra
Spacedaisy
wilgy

Players I feel I could vote for:
Lux
Funnygurl
Dyslexicon

[Sloonei]

i like ties

Do you have reads on players yet?