Inception [END]

[Michelle]

@ Michelle are you French?

nope i am romanian. i can talk french but to write is too much of an effort

Ahhh kk I'm Canadian and a lot of French people I know write their English in a similar way to you

Texas Cloverleaf is Canadian.

Next thing you know I’ll be demoted to 8 of hearts.

Jack 8-stone-hearts. Sounds cool. cold. freezing.

btw are you scum ?

Nope. Are you?

nah.. i don't have this luck twice in a row in a site ^^

[Texas Cloverleaf]

[VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine

@112 can you please explain to me your first two posts of the game

oh. i wanted to get into the mindfuck theme with the first one- was gonna be all mysterious the whole game and do some x-cult shit. maybe i am doing it and you guys just don't realize.

the 'i wasn't' was supposed to be some sort of meta/self-referential joke; an illusionist would be someone who interfere's with another's perception or makes their senses manifest to them falsely. and since juliet interpreted my first post one way, i asked the question in a way that would presumably make her doubt herself if taken literally. not sure if i'm talking nonsense, but it was funny to me, so i posted it.

Thank you but wrong posts sorry :/

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh wow look at thay as soon as her (?) “easy mis-kill” shows some teeth there’s someone else on deck. Such a surprise.

[vanity.]

Hardclaik the abstract subconscious concept of liking big butts and not being able to lie about it.

[Michelle]

@ Michelle are you French?

nope i am romanian. i can talk french but to write is too much of an effort

Ahhh kk I'm Canadian and a lot of French people I know write their English in a similar way to you

both french and romanian are latin based languages. Maybe this is an explanation.

We should colour these posts in green as being OGI ^^

I see you are voting like me for Eve did you play with her previously?

Yeah my second guess was Spanish so the Roman thing is likely, it's the grammar that tipped me off, reversed subject-object relationship

I played with Eva (and Mac, vanity, 112, and hyena) in the mafiauniverse championship wild cards game 1, if you were so interested

my bad, english grammar is my biggest problem

i see . I played in game 11 with Pawn.

And i remember, Eve was town that WC game. So you see her like opposite alignament from that game?

[112]

[VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine

@112 can you please explain to me your first two posts of the game

kk, gonna have to iso myself to check what they were, brb

The following two please, clearly the only ones I remembered

viewtopic.php?f=260&t=1812&p=557933#p557933

viewtopic.php?f=260&t=1812&p=557960#p557960

the creature thing was part 'compassion' role-play and part wanting me to make sure he got enough sleep. bcuz i care about u guys. and i wanted to get across that establishing towncircles is important and how we win games. if we're using all of our psychic energies to astral project ourselves as genuine to others through our dreams, we're not doing all we can to win. simple as that.

epinosis was teasing me with questions he knew i couldn't answer, so i told him i couldn't answer him but said i'd do my best to project town. i feel bad that i haven't been able to do that again, but whatever. and i thought i was going to have a better game than i'm having- was coming off a very moving psychedelic experience and was feeling in a good headspace for the game, but i've had a lot going on and have been pretty tired, which has distracted from how much i can read and participate. i've skipped so many posts. :/

[112]

[VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine

@112 can you please explain to me your first two posts of the game

oh. i wanted to get into the mindfuck theme with the first one- was gonna be all mysterious the whole game and do some x-cult shit. maybe i am doing it and you guys just don't realize.

the 'i wasn't' was supposed to be some sort of meta/self-referential joke; an illusionist would be someone who interfere's with another's perception or makes their senses manifest to them falsely. and since juliet interpreted my first post one way, i asked the question in a way that would presumably make her doubt herself if taken literally. not sure if i'm talking nonsense, but it was funny to me, so i posted it.

Thank you but wrong posts sorry :/

it's cool lol

[112]

i don't have full energy for the game, haven't said much, understand why i'm being wagoned and w/e but still just gotta tell u all flat to your faces that you're wrong

make me believe in another wagon and I'll save you

ok. i'll widdle down a poe in the next two hours or so and will try to give a couple of good options with details/analysis.

i'm going to take a bit of a break first.

[Elephant]

Elephant, how plays town Eve? Do you recognise her in this game?

I am unable to see Evenstar's alignment because she thinks quite unconventionally as either alignment. Even if I had read the many pages of game when she was active and I was asleep, I doubt I could tell the difference. I would like to say that you can recognize Evenstar by the influence she has on the game, but her style can be confusing even when she is town-aligned. If [mention]Pawn Lelouch[/mention] or [mention]Lady LambdaDelta[/mention] are not confident of Evenstar's alignment, then nobody else should be.

To give you a clear answer: Town Evenstar can play like this (but I have not seen all of her posts); Mafia Evenstar can play like this, too.

[112]

elephant is so agenda-y

[Pawn Lelouch]

Elephant, how plays town Eve? Do you recognise her in this game?

I am unable to see Evenstar's alignment because she thinks quite unconventionally as either alignment. Even if I had read the many pages of game when she was active and I was asleep, I doubt I could tell the difference. I would like to say that you can recognize Evenstar by the influence she has on the game, but her style can be confusing even when she is town-aligned. If @Pawn Lelouch or @Lady LambdaDelta are not confident of Evenstar's alignment, then nobody else should be.

To give you a clear answer: Town Evenstar can play like this (but I have not seen all of her posts); Mafia Evenstar can play like this, too.

At this point I've got her as a town lean btw. I am not sure as to how LLD has her.

[Benson]

elephant is so agenda-y

I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.

[Michelle]

elephant is so agenda-y

what makes you say this?

[Elephant]

Elephant, how plays town Eve? Do you recognise her in this game?

I am unable to see Evenstar's alignment because she thinks quite unconventionally as either alignment. Even if I had read the many pages of game when she was active and I was asleep, I doubt I could tell the difference. I would like to say that you can recognize Evenstar by the influence she has on the game, but her style can be confusing even when she is town-aligned. If @Pawn Lelouch or @Lady LambdaDelta are not confident of Evenstar's alignment, then nobody else should be.

To give you a clear answer: Town Evenstar can play like this (but I have not seen all of her posts); Mafia Evenstar can play like this, too.

I should add that Evenstar is a very good mafia player. If she is town, I do not want her to die.

[Pawn Lelouch]

elephant is so agenda-y

I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.

Slowly? He's been kinda rapid firing it today honestly.

[VOTE: Elephant] aubergine

[Elephant]

elephant is so agenda-y

I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.

I don't remember planting any seeds.

[nutella]

I'm not going to stand in the way of a 112 lynch, but I'm putting their play more under 'heart not in it' than scum at the moment.

yeah- i think i'm going to get better as the game goes on if i survive the round

honestly, guys, i have had a very profound few days/week and there was never really a chance that i was going to do more early on.

i am actually town and am getting pretty angry over how often i'm being mislynched lately.

please show compassion some compassion here and swallow my AtE pills. they're good for you.

Ok but who should I vote for instead

[vanity.]

honestly since i'm not really that invested in the game and most people think i'm a villa i'm just gonna lay low and sheep others

[VOTE: elephant] aubergine

[Benson]

[VOTE: Elephant] aubergine

Quick wagons

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Oh wow look at thay as soon as her (?) “easy mis-kill” shows some teeth there’s someone else on deck. Such a surprise.

Are you always this bitchy about a little pressure?

[112]

I'm not going to stand in the way of a 112 lynch, but I'm putting their play more under 'heart not in it' than scum at the moment.

yeah- i think i'm going to get better as the game goes on if i survive the round

honestly, guys, i have had a very profound few days/week and there was never really a chance that i was going to do more early on.

i am actually town and am getting pretty angry over how often i'm being mislynched lately.

please show compassion some compassion here and swallow my AtE pills. they're good for you.

Ok but who should I vote for instead

i gave like 5 potential names a page or two back

[Texas Cloverleaf]

@ Michelle are you French?

nope i am romanian. i can talk french but to write is too much of an effort

Ahhh kk I'm Canadian and a lot of French people I know write their English in a similar way to you

both french and romanian are latin based languages. Maybe this is an explanation.

We should colour these posts in green as being OGI ^^

I see you are voting like me for Eve did you play with her previously?

Yeah my second guess was Spanish so the Roman thing is likely, it's the grammar that tipped me off, reversed subject-object relationship

I played with Eva (and Mac, vanity, 112, and hyena) in the mafiauniverse championship wild cards game 1, if you were so interested

my bad, english grammar is my biggest problem

i see . I played in game 11 with Pawn.

And i remember, Eve was town that WC game. So you see her like opposite alignament from that game?

You're thinking of the wrong game, Eva was scum in the game I played with her, I picked up on her sooner than most

But I'm not basing anything about her on meta, the way she played the last game makes it clear she can play fluidly. I'm voting her because she manufactured a negative read on me which she didn't need to do using reasons that didn't actually exist but sound good to anyone not fact checking them.

[nutella]

elephant is so agenda-y

Spicy take. How so?

[nutella]

elephant is so agenda-y

I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.

I can see that I guess at least in his interaction with juliets about Tony, that was pretty weird imo.

[Elephant]

elephant is so agenda-y

I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.

Slowly? He's been kinda rapid firing it today honestly.

[VOTE: Elephant] aubergine

This was my game plan for today: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 65#p559565
I have not committed on iaafr, I am still investigating Epignosis, and I am happy with a 112 lynch.
I have been investigating Juliets because she is in my group, and found my read of her confirmed.
I do not think I have "planted seeds" on Jack.
Do you think I am planting mislynch seds on Evenstar by explaining how her odd behaviour is NAI?
Have I talked about anyone else today?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh wow look at thay as soon as her (?) “easy mis-kill” shows some teeth there’s someone else on deck. Such a surprise.

Are you always this bitchy about a little pressure?

Only when it’s dumb and goes away for no apparent reason

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Benson is town

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Oh wow look at thay as soon as her (?) “easy mis-kill” shows some teeth there’s someone else on deck. Such a surprise.

Are you always this bitchy about a little pressure?

Only when it’s dumb and goes away for no apparent reason

Why do my reasons need to be apparent

[Elephant]

elephant is so agenda-y

I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.

Slowly? He's been kinda rapid firing it today honestly.

[VOTE: Elephant] aubergine

This was my game plan for today: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 65#p559565
I have not committed on iaafr, I am still investigating Epignosis, and I am happy with a 112 lynch.
I have been investigating Juliets because she is in my group, and found my read of her confirmed.
I do not think I have "planted seeds" on Jack.
Do you think I am planting mislynch seds on Evenstar by explaining how her odd behaviour is NAI?
Have I talked about anyone else today?

EBWOP Tony, not Jack; actually, either, I think? They seem similar in my mind.

[nutella]

I don't feel great about any of these wagons. I'm going back to [VOTE: pawn lelouch] aubergine he has pretty consistently given me the heebie jeebies.

[Texas Cloverleaf]

I got what I wanted, pressure no longer served a purpose

[Michelle]

honestly since i'm not really that invested in the game and most people think i'm a villa i'm just gonna lay low and sheep others

[VOTE: elephant] aubergine

they are in a wrong way thinking you are villager?
Sounds like an excuse to park a vote in a new wagon

[Benson]

elephant is so agenda-y

I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.

I can see that I guess at least in his interaction with juliets about Tony, that was pretty weird imo.

Yeah. I've seen that with many of his interactions. It's like he's subtly chipping away at their credibility and laying the foundation for a mislynch. At least that's what my overly anxious and paranoid subconscious is telling me.

[Elephant]

elephant is so agenda-y

I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.

I can see that I guess at least in his interaction with juliets about Tony, that was pretty weird imo.

What have I written that I could use to mislynch Tony or Juliets? How would I go about it?

[Texas Cloverleaf]

elephant is so agenda-y

I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.

I can see that I guess at least in his interaction with juliets about Tony, that was pretty weird imo.

Yeah. I've seen that with many of his interactions. It's like he's subtly chipping away at their credibility and laying the foundation for a mislynch. At least that's what my overly anxious and paranoid subconscious is telling me.

I don't think you're being paranoid

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh wow look at thay as soon as her (?) “easy mis-kill” shows some teeth there’s someone else on deck. Such a surprise.

Are you always this bitchy about a little pressure?

Only when it’s dumb and goes away for no apparent reason

Why do my reasons need to be apparent

Oh the irony of bitching at me for not being transparent...then questioning why you need to be transparent.

[Benson]

Oh wow look at thay as soon as her (?) “easy mis-kill” shows some teeth there’s someone else on deck. Such a surprise.

Are you always this bitchy about a little pressure?

Only when it’s dumb and goes away for no apparent reason

If you spent as much time reading the thread as you do pointlessly arguing your detractors, you'd be caught up by now.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh wow look at thay as soon as her (?) “easy mis-kill” shows some teeth there’s someone else on deck. Such a surprise.

Are you always this bitchy about a little pressure?

Only when it’s dumb and goes away for no apparent reason

If you spent as much time reading the thread as you do pointlessly arguing your detractors, you'd be caught up by now.

Arguing is much much much faster than reading back, and much easier to do in quick bursts.

[vanity.]

honestly since i'm not really that invested in the game and most people think i'm a villa i'm just gonna lay low and sheep others

[VOTE: elephant] aubergine

they are in a wrong way thinking you are villager?
Sounds like an excuse to park a vote in a new wagon

what? i legit don't know what you're trying to say

if people think i'm a villager, then i don't want to get in the way of solving. i'm not going to be a cook this game. that's just how i'm going to play.

[Jackofhearts2005]

elephant is so agenda-y

I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.

Slowly? He's been kinda rapid firing it today honestly.

[VOTE: Elephant] aubergine

This was my game plan for today: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 65#p559565
I have not committed on iaafr, I am still investigating Epignosis, and I am happy with a 112 lynch.
I have been investigating Juliets because she is in my group, and found my read of her confirmed.
I do not think I have "planted seeds" on Jack.
Do you think I am planting mislynch seds on Evenstar by explaining how her odd behaviour is NAI?
Have I talked about anyone else today?

EBWOP Tony, not Jack; actually, either, I think? They seem similar in my mind.

Probably the hair.

[Michelle]

Meta provided for Eve doesn't help. I agree she may be an useful villager but i need to trust my reads and i will unvote if i will find a reason in her Iso. Going to read rn.

[Benson]

honestly since i'm not really that invested in the game and most people think i'm a villa i'm just gonna lay low and sheep others

[VOTE: elephant] aubergine

they are in a wrong way thinking you are villager?
Sounds like an excuse to park a vote in a new wagon

It's almost twtbw for him to say that as an actual wolf, lol.

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Oh wow look at thay as soon as her (?) “easy mis-kill” shows some teeth there’s someone else on deck. Such a surprise.

Are you always this bitchy about a little pressure?

Only when it’s dumb and goes away for no apparent reason

Why do my reasons need to be apparent

Oh the irony of bitching at me for not being transparent...then questioning why you need to be transparent.

On the contrary I've been very transparent about where I stand towards people, something you've done very little of

[Elephant]

elephant is so agenda-y

I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.

I can see that I guess at least in his interaction with juliets about Tony, that was pretty weird imo.

Yeah. I've seen that with many of his interactions. It's like he's subtly chipping away at their credibility and laying the foundation for a mislynch. At least that's what my overly anxious and paranoid subconscious is telling me.

I do question the credibility of other players. Don't you?

[Michelle]

honestly since i'm not really that invested in the game and most people think i'm a villa i'm just gonna lay low and sheep others

[VOTE: elephant] aubergine

they are in a wrong way thinking you are villager?
Sounds like an excuse to park a vote in a new wagon

what? i legit don't know what you're trying to say

if people think i'm a villager, then i don't want to get in the way of solving. i'm not going to be a cook this game. that's just how i'm going to play.

i don't want you to be a cook i want you to be villagery if you are villager. Sheeping others is not always villagery.

[Texas Cloverleaf]

honestly since i'm not really that invested in the game and most people think i'm a villa i'm just gonna lay low and sheep others

[VOTE: elephant] aubergine

they are in a wrong way thinking you are villager?
Sounds like an excuse to park a vote in a new wagon

what? i legit don't know what you're trying to say

if people think i'm a villager, then i don't want to get in the way of solving. i'm not going to be a cook this game. that's just how i'm going to play.

Hi vanity, you've been ignoring me

[Benson]

elephant is so agenda-y

I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.

I can see that I guess at least in his interaction with juliets about Tony, that was pretty weird imo.

Yeah. I've seen that with many of his interactions. It's like he's subtly chipping away at their credibility and laying the foundation for a mislynch. At least that's what my overly anxious and paranoid subconscious is telling me.

I do question the credibility of other players. Don't you?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is what I'm talking about.

[Michelle]

honestly since i'm not really that invested in the game and most people think i'm a villa i'm just gonna lay low and sheep others

[VOTE: elephant] aubergine

they are in a wrong way thinking you are villager?
Sounds like an excuse to park a vote in a new wagon

It's almost twtbw for him to say that as an actual wolf, lol.

i will not give town cred for twtbaw

[vanity.]

honestly since i'm not really that invested in the game and most people think i'm a villa i'm just gonna lay low and sheep others

[VOTE: elephant] aubergine

they are in a wrong way thinking you are villager?
Sounds like an excuse to park a vote in a new wagon

what? i legit don't know what you're trying to say

if people think i'm a villager, then i don't want to get in the way of solving. i'm not going to be a cook this game. that's just how i'm going to play.

Hi vanity, you've been ignoring me

hi

i agree with you that benson is probably a v fwiw

none of your posts have really stuck out to me so far though

[Elephant]

elephant is so agenda-y

I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.

I can see that I guess at least in his interaction with juliets about Tony, that was pretty weird imo.

Yeah. I've seen that with many of his interactions. It's like he's subtly chipping away at their credibility and laying the foundation for a mislynch. At least that's what my overly anxious and paranoid subconscious is telling me.

I do question the credibility of other players. Don't you?

But I disagree: I don't believe that I am doing it subtly; it's quite overtly.