Admittedly, in almost no universe. I would give you similar reasons tbh. And while I appreciate your passion, I'm perhaps influenced by the fact that I think you believe it, but I'm not sure what you've found is that alignment indicative.
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I don't get it. Am I OMGUSing you, or not? Am I not allowed to call something bullshit when I see it now? Are my opinions not valid without a vote?

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Guys I cannot possibly define how much I think Juliets is scum
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Ok Sloonei thanks for your honesty. I won't waste my time then.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:37 pmshockheaded peter comes to mind. There was another one that i was so detached from that I don't even remember the name.
I don't think any of this is really alignment indicative though. This game right now is unique in that I'm not too busy to play the game, I'm just mentally exhausted from life circumstances in recent weeks. I'm here, I just don't have the energy to be myself.
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I'm not necessarily saying there's anything wrong with the end result, but the methods therein. I just felt the game getting super static, and I'm trying to apply pressure. If Sloonei is the only main player receiving pressure on Day 1, we are far from maximizing our chances of winning.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:53 pmWhat the hell is wrong with a static lynch if it's the right one?M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:16 pm I absolutely hate that 4-person wagon on Sloonei. It's static. It's not pushing the game forward in any way. If there's one reason to ever lynch Mac here, that'd be one. I understand Epi's vote being there, but I'd encourage those voters to at least more actively consider other options.
If Sloonei is scum and I'm actively now arguing to avoid his lynch d1, then lol, but if he is scum I'm confident we can catch him with strong town play.
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I don't understand the question.

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Where did I say I supported info lynching?Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:54 pmFuck lynching for information.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:21 pmAh, yeah, that's the last game I've played with him and it'd be nice to actually play with him here.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:19 pmI’ve also played games with him since, tbfM Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:18 pmYou have a more logical mafia brain than I do then, and I commend you.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:17 pmI thought he was clearly town that game too IIRC, doesn’t affect my desire to kill or not kill him hereM Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:14 pm Oh, also Nanook, Mac got lynched Day 1 when he was IMO clear town in Banjo. He's obviously not clear town here, but I would feel like ass lynching him d1 again here. So *shrug*, that's another reason I'd put him in the let's give him another day category I suppose.![]()
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I'm just asking why you are not voting for me, primarily. If you think I'm bullshitting, then aren't you effectively saying I'm scum? I haven't seen you call anything else bullshit.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:48 pmI don't understand the question.
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No, if we lynch Sloonei and he's town, that's a now problem.
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Epi's complacency with just casing Sloonei and doing fuck all anywhere else strikes me as townie, but I disagree with it vehemently.
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No I haven't because this is the way you always play. Sloonei has been showing me something I haven't seen even though I've played with him a lot. I am satisfied for now though with his recent explanation.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:46 pmHave you done that with me? Your focus seems a bit narrow.
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Damn near seems mechanical.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:46 pm Guys I cannot possibly define how much I think Juliets is scum
And he’s not voting Juliets either.
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This is more shade.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:00 pmThis MP quote reminded me of this MP quote:
Wilgy was pretty clear in what he was saying, and MP tries to deflect it... it's straw-mannish. "If you can't define my *scum strategy* in a way that I accept, your accusation isn't valid." Dislike.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:03 pmI don't understand, what's the scum strategy I'm employing exactly?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:48 pm MP, I'm starting to dislike your lines here.
I feel that you are drawing and encouraging lines of agreement and suspicion that aren't necessarily your own, but more so assist a narrative that is in your favor. I.e. you leave me in the null stating you don't know how you feel but at the same time leaving me at would lynch.
Your LC vote also piggy backing off Nanook.
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I'll vote when I decide who I want to vote for. It might be you. You are acting suspiciously.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:49 pmI'm just asking why you are not voting for me, primarily. If you think I'm bullshitting, then aren't you effectively saying I'm scum? I haven't seen you call anything else bullshit.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:48 pmI don't understand the question.

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Yes, that's right, that is another time I found something you did suspicious.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:50 pmThis is more shade.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:00 pmThis MP quote reminded me of this MP quote:
Wilgy was pretty clear in what he was saying, and MP tries to deflect it... it's straw-mannish. "If you can't define my *scum strategy* in a way that I accept, your accusation isn't valid." Dislike.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:03 pmI don't understand, what's the scum strategy I'm employing exactly?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:48 pm MP, I'm starting to dislike your lines here.
I feel that you are drawing and encouraging lines of agreement and suspicion that aren't necessarily your own, but more so assist a narrative that is in your favor. I.e. you leave me in the null stating you don't know how you feel but at the same time leaving me at would lynch.
Your LC vote also piggy backing off Nanook.

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Tony, can you please explain your read?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:46 pm Guys I cannot possibly define how much I think Juliets is scum
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Expand please?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:20 pmA deep feeling in my soul has told me thusSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:20 pmwhy not?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:19 pm I have gotten the impression that Epi is super town. Have I been fooled? Please tell me.
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Who else do you suspect?Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:51 pmI'll vote when I decide who I want to vote for. It might be you. You are acting suspiciously.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:49 pmI'm just asking why you are not voting for me, primarily. If you think I'm bullshitting, then aren't you effectively saying I'm scum? I haven't seen you call anything else bullshit.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:48 pmI don't understand the question.
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LC, why are you being cagey with me?
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I don't know what you're talking about. You're being weirdly aggressive against my suspicion of you.

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I mean, I thought what 112 said about Wilgy was mildly compelling, and I thought the way Wilgy behaved around Sloonei was like trying to have his cake and eat it too, in an insincere way.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:29 pm Anyone have an actual case that is probably not gas?
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I am? I'm not trying to be. I'm just trying to get inside your head, that's all.
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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:52 pmWho else do you suspect?Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:51 pmI'll vote when I decide who I want to vote for. It might be you. You are acting suspiciously.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:49 pmI'm just asking why you are not voting for me, primarily. If you think I'm bullshitting, then aren't you effectively saying I'm scum? I haven't seen you call anything else bullshit.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:48 pmI don't understand the question.


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How many times can juliets say the word Sloonei: THE GAMEjuliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:41 pm I thought Epi's case on Sloonei was good, especially for Day 1. I really would like to look at another Day 1 mafia Sloonei so I think I'll do that. I also understand what it's like to be tired and distracted and playing mafia so I would like to believe Sloonei. I'm going to eat dinner, take a look at Sloonei's day 1 in The Wire and think about changing my vote.
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It's frikkin' weird to have someone bring you up in a suspicion, and immediately jump to "THEN WHY AREN'T YOU VOTING ME HMMMMMMMM?" Chill out.

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juliets, I think there's more to consider than meta.juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:30 pmWait, what? I'm trying to determine if Sloonei ever plays like this. Epi says "no". I don't remember. I would like to see for myself. Why would I send Sloonei on a wild goose chase? And why would I go on one? If you are making an accusation just come out with it instead of sliding around it.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:26 pmSending Sloonei and yourself on a wild goose chase is very much scum energy.
Also, what did you think of Epi's case?
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lolM Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:55 pmHow many times can juliets say the word Sloonei: THE GAMEjuliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:41 pm I thought Epi's case on Sloonei was good, especially for Day 1. I really would like to look at another Day 1 mafia Sloonei so I think I'll do that. I also understand what it's like to be tired and distracted and playing mafia so I would like to believe Sloonei. I'm going to eat dinner, take a look at Sloonei's day 1 in The Wire and think about changing my vote.
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You must be reading into my tone, because there is nothing like that in what I've said.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:55 pmIt's frikkin' weird to have someone bring you up in a suspicion, and immediately jump to "THEN WHY AREN'T YOU VOTING ME HMMMMMMMM?" Chill out.
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This is aggressive. I've not said anything like this to LC?
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Go on.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:46 pm Guys I cannot possibly define how much I think Juliets is scum
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So just so I understand correctly, LC, you have one town read which is Wilgy, and one scum read which is me?
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Yes I agree. I just like to look at all sides of people when I'm unsure about people's alignment. In this case what I'm asking for is not available so I have made a decision based on the thread information and Sloonei's value as a town. player.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:56 pmjuliets, I think there's more to consider than meta.juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:30 pmWait, what? I'm trying to determine if Sloonei ever plays like this. Epi says "no". I don't remember. I would like to see for myself. Why would I send Sloonei on a wild goose chase? And why would I go on one? If you are making an accusation just come out with it instead of sliding around it.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:26 pmSending Sloonei and yourself on a wild goose chase is very much scum energy.
Also, what did you think of Epi's case?
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juliets, why exactly are you voting for Soneji?
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Slightly related, but it's entirely possible I become motivated again in a couple of days. I'm just trying to be transparent about my energy levels. More a response to MP than juliets here.juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:43 pmOk I get that. And yeah, thats why I'm having a problem moving my vote to Sloonei. Epi makes a good case but I keep thinking we should give Sloonei another day because he IS on of our best game solvers.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:35 pmIt's not exactly +EV to let him live necessarily, but it could be argued that it's -EV to kill one of your potentially best game solvers and self-resolving town players on Day 1, yes.juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:10 pm I just read through Sloonei's posts. He posted exactly 4 times yesterday (Tuesday) and hasn't posted at all today. That's not looking good. I understand he's playing another game but he's got no time at all to post in this one on the day we have EOD? I don't like it, the only question for me is whether MP7 is right and we should give him another day because his value if he's town is high. (Is that +EV? Still not 100% sure on how that term is used)
Other than Sloonei, I'm looking toward LC or Soneji for a vote. Since LC and Sloonei already have some heat I'm going to throw a vote Soneji's way.
linki and the email about his thesis just adds more to me thinking we should give him more time
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I wish I knew more of what Scirrus was thinking. Hope he comes back soon.
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I understand. Just remember that the best defense is a good offense, etc. etc. I'm here to cheerlead you.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:00 pmSlightly related, but it's entirely possible I become motivated again in a couple of days. I'm just trying to be transparent about my energy levels. More a response to MP than juliets here.juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:43 pmOk I get that. And yeah, thats why I'm having a problem moving my vote to Sloonei. Epi makes a good case but I keep thinking we should give Sloonei another day because he IS on of our best game solvers.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:35 pmIt's not exactly +EV to let him live necessarily, but it could be argued that it's -EV to kill one of your potentially best game solvers and self-resolving town players on Day 1, yes.juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:10 pm I just read through Sloonei's posts. He posted exactly 4 times yesterday (Tuesday) and hasn't posted at all today. That's not looking good. I understand he's playing another game but he's got no time at all to post in this one on the day we have EOD? I don't like it, the only question for me is whether MP7 is right and we should give him another day because his value if he's town is high. (Is that +EV? Still not 100% sure on how that term is used)
Other than Sloonei, I'm looking toward LC or Soneji for a vote. Since LC and Sloonei already have some heat I'm going to throw a vote Soneji's way.
linki and the email about his thesis just adds more to me thinking we should give him more time
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Am I the only one here who throws a fit so I don’t get lynched.
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Why are you lynching LC or Sloonei? Just genuinely curious.
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Something has come up. I’ll be back ASAP.
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Because I can't point to anything to say he is town and he's not participating. I could move my vote if there is a good reason to not vote him, but not to Sloonei.
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Hey guys.
4 votes on Sloonei 4 on LC. Much wow. Very Spice.
How do people feel about the wagons atm? Good? Bad? I wanna CFD Scirrus instead?
I'm not sure how caught up I can get before deadline but I'll try. it's in an hour and half or so right?
4 votes on Sloonei 4 on LC. Much wow. Very Spice.
How do people feel about the wagons atm? Good? Bad? I wanna CFD Scirrus instead?
I'm not sure how caught up I can get before deadline but I'll try. it's in an hour and half or so right?
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Yes Scirrus another hour and a half or so.
I'm not feeling great about either wagon but it could be because I just don't understand the LC one yet.
No, don't want to cfd you.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]
GAHHHH. A tie means no lynch in this game.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:10 pmTies are fun.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]
Like I’m very conscious of the fact that I’m tunneling and I’ve expressed a long standing position of “can’t read Juliets” so I’m a little wary. I’ll pull up some posts in ten minutes.