Pyre Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Marcher Jovian]

@Marcher Jovian what are your thoughts on nutella, Turnip Head, Sloonei and Soneji?

nutella—her pushes have felt kinda sketch, like opportunistic and ill-founded. but pushing on the maybe they’re masons thing shows like that extra degree of thinking and uncertainty about the game. Need to think whether it’s good enough to give her space and not vote her today
Turnip Head—I remember not enough about this person. They confidently pushed MR yesterday based on meta reads. People with meta on TH, how confident/brazen are they as a wolf? A bit of a wagon earlier today, tedxtr liked the iso. I ought to check this iso
Sloonei—this post summed up my thoughts, http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ya#p620996 . Wagon comp looks kinda weird. Probably falls under “player good enough they ought to get another day to give them a chance to clear themselves”
Soneji—Posted very little. The few posts they’ve made have been underwhelming. [insert thoughts that are illegal in MU but I don’t know the exact etiquette about on Syndicate]

Adding this on: nutella cleared out the KZA wagon. Not voting her today

[Marcher Jovian]

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] walk me through your case on nutella, esp. what you think of her play today

[Carotenoid]

I think KZA wagon was just a bad early wagon and that it would have dissolved sooner or later

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei walk me through your case on nutella, esp. what you think of her play today

she's bad. i'm beginning to explode. stand by

[Sloonei]

Last night carot brought up an excellent point about nutella that hasn't received much attention at all.

[Carotenoid]

Hmmn I think I see where this is going
Nice nice nice

[Carotenoid]

Waiting for motobot is like waiting for Beggbow all over again lol

[dunya]

I'm with you until I die [mention]motobot[/mention] ! Drwilgy gotta go

[dunya]

Last night carot brought up an excellent point about nutella that hasn't received much attention at all.

What was it

[nutella]

Hey gang, questions for everyone, answer what you feel like answering it would be nice.

—> What’s your general impression of the game? What are your « big picture reads » of the game right now?

—> How do you feel about the threadstate? Who’s benefitting from it? Who’s maintaining it and who’s trying to change it?

I can understand that some people don’t have the time/energy/motivation to move heaven and earth right now but hey, we signed up to play together so let’s town it up and play together. <3

wolfy post

[nutella]

Another + sign for Turnip is that, if he were a wolf with Wilgy, he already had the Jovian set-up to push at that time, so pulling a Radishes read made no sense whatsoever. If he wanted to save a wolf, he would've done so by coming back to his Jovian read, imo.

I know this is taking pre-flip into account but I feel like having that dissonance in my head w/r/t Wilgy wolf and TH taking those actions might heavily interfere with my read on him, for no reason, even if Wilgy were to flip town. My brain works in many mysterious ways.

I think with the gamestate of yesterday wolves try to push Master Radishes so he doesn't have the time to become townier and keep Marcher Jovian as futur mislims
Same for DrWilgy if he's town

zero consideration as to if any wolves preferred you as the elim?

also seconding this from moth


seems like a potential perspective slip from carot

[Carotenoid]

nutella doing some tunnella things hmmn hmmmn hmmmn

[nutella]

@Sloonei walk me through your case on nutella, esp. what you think of her play today

she's bad. i'm beginning to explode. stand by

Last night carot brought up an excellent point about nutella that hasn't received much attention at all.

:doubt:

[nutella]

nutella doing some tunnella things hmmn hmmmn hmmmn

I was really back to mostly townreading you until that lol

[nutella]

Sloonei can't possibly think I'm scum here if he's town

therefore he's scum

[Carotenoid]

Another + sign for Turnip is that, if he were a wolf with Wilgy, he already had the Jovian set-up to push at that time, so pulling a Radishes read made no sense whatsoever. If he wanted to save a wolf, he would've done so by coming back to his Jovian read, imo.

I know this is taking pre-flip into account but I feel like having that dissonance in my head w/r/t Wilgy wolf and TH taking those actions might heavily interfere with my read on him, for no reason, even if Wilgy were to flip town. My brain works in many mysterious ways.

I think with the gamestate of yesterday wolves try to push Master Radishes so he doesn't have the time to become townier and keep Marcher Jovian as futur mislims

Same for DrWilgy if he's town

zero consideration as to if any wolves preferred you as the elim?

also seconding this from moth


seems like a potential perspective slip from carot

Oh I get what moth meant now lol
I meant "Marcher Jovian and me as futur mislims"

[moth]

id like carot to talk more in depth about what turnip did that looked like shading on his townread of nutella.

what specifically did turnip shade nutella on? where? when?

[nutella]

looking forward to what the "thing" is though because most of carot's points on me were extremely weak and forced and could apply more to herself

[moth]

Another + sign for Turnip is that, if he were a wolf with Wilgy, he already had the Jovian set-up to push at that time, so pulling a Radishes read made no sense whatsoever. If he wanted to save a wolf, he would've done so by coming back to his Jovian read, imo.

I know this is taking pre-flip into account but I feel like having that dissonance in my head w/r/t Wilgy wolf and TH taking those actions might heavily interfere with my read on him, for no reason, even if Wilgy were to flip town. My brain works in many mysterious ways.

I think with the gamestate of yesterday wolves try to push Master Radishes so he doesn't have the time to become townier and keep Marcher Jovian as futur mislims

Same for DrWilgy if he's town

zero consideration as to if any wolves preferred you as the elim?

also seconding this from moth


seems like a potential perspective slip from carot

Oh I get what moth meant now lol
I meant "Marcher Jovian and me as futur mislims"

No. wrong. Im asking why youve not mentioned day 1 being v/v if thats actually true. and its implications. your reads dont seem based on the idea scum were on radish and you. or how many. or why. or anything actually

[Carotenoid]

id like carot to talk more in depth about what turnip did that looked like shading on his townread of nutella.

what specifically did turnip shade nutella on? where? when?

? Tell me what posts you're referring to because I don't get it

[Carotenoid]

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Another + sign for Turnip is that, if he were a wolf with Wilgy, he already had the Jovian set-up to push at that time, so pulling a Radishes read made no sense whatsoever. If he wanted to save a wolf, he would've done so by coming back to his Jovian read, imo.

I know this is taking pre-flip into account but I feel like having that dissonance in my head w/r/t Wilgy wolf and TH taking those actions might heavily interfere with my read on him, for no reason, even if Wilgy were to flip town. My brain works in many mysterious ways.

I think with the gamestate of yesterday wolves try to push Master Radishes so he doesn't have the time to become townier and keep Marcher Jovian as futur mislims

Same for DrWilgy if he's town

zero consideration as to if any wolves preferred you as the elim?

also seconding this from moth


seems like a potential perspective slip from carot

Oh I get what moth meant now lol
I meant "Marcher Jovian and me as futur mislims"

No. wrong. Im asking why youve not mentioned day 1 being v/v if thats actually true. and its implications. your reads dont seem based on the idea scum were on radish and you. or how many. or why. or anything actually

Who are you talking about when you say v/v?
Did you see my readlist? I don't understand what you're not understanding

[moth]

2 nights ago you claimed turnip was shading nutellA

[moth]

and turnip had a v read on nutella but was shading her

[Sloonei]

First thing I want to do is address my Marcher read in more depth. They've been a popular suspect but I've maintained a firm town read on them for a while. I wanted to re-examine that read to see if it still holds up on closer inspection. So let us begin.

One of the first things that stands out, which has been negatively received by others, is that Marcher is asking questions but not doing anything with them. I hate that accusation because it's one I face regularly. But I asked myself if I could agree with it in this case. I don't think I do. Marcher asks plenty of questions early n:

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@bronana - Must post heaps
@Carotenoid - Must post heaps
@DrWilgy - Can have a potato pass
@dunya - Never gets a potato pass
@KZA - Must post heaps
@Lissa - Must post heaps
@Long Con - Can have a potato pass
@MacDougall - I am potato
@Marcher Jovian - Must post heaps
@Master Radishes - Can have a potato pass
@moth - No potato pass as per company policy
@motobot - Will potato with or without pass
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Yeah you can have a potato pass
@nutella - You can potato
@outed wolf - ... no potato pass for you
@Sloonei - I insist you potato til at least d3
@Soneji - You potato too much, no potato pass for you
@tedxtr - No potato pass
@TonyStarkPrime - You are worthy of a potato pass
@Turnip Head - No potato pass for you and you must humour me
@tutuu - Must post heaps

Failure to adhere to aforementioned requests will result in me tasing you.

Why are you letting some people slank? How are you supposed to solve people if they’re not posting?

Hey Lissa and moth can I get y'alls takes on the nutella/sloonei thing?

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bronana townlean
Carotenoid null
DrWilgy null
dunya null
KZA town lean
Lissa scum
Long Con scum
MacDougall townlean
Marcher Jovian null
Master Radishes town
moth scum for sure
motobot null
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME null
nutella scum
outed wolf town
Sloonei town
Soneji null
tedxtr null
TonyStarkPrime scum
Turnip Head null
tutuu town

Why do you read outed wolf town?

@TonyStarkPrime why are you sussing nutella/sloonei while voting nanook?

This is a non-exhaustive list. I think these are all good questions, and whether or not Marcher goes anywhere immediately with them is of secondary concern at best here. I like the inquisitiveness and think the mindset that is indicated in several of their early questions is one that is more likely to belong to a civilian. Their early progression on Tony is one that I like in particular; Marcher challenges outed wolf's read on Tony, and then later comes up with a wholly independent challenge of Tony:

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[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine
That Nanook vote weirded me out

You don't accept his reasoning? I find Tony's overall vibe scummy to this point but I don't take issue with him prodding someone that was barely noticeable. You'll notice that Nanook showed up too, and his posts didn't exactly impress me. Since you like asking questions I'll ask you one; any thoughts on Nanook himself?

Oh and I think you asked me about Moth earlier but I got distracted; he is still town.

It’s because Tony was happy to suspect people and cast shade on them, but wasn’t willing to actually back it up with a vote. Like from reputation I know sloonei and nutella are fairly experienced players, so it’d probably be hard to get either banished d1. Nanook is a really easy, random, low-commitment vote. Who’s gonna defend someone with low thread presence that hasn’t really gotten “serious” about solving yet? Like in a vacuum I don’t think someone voting Nanook is necessarily scummie, but it doesn’t really fit with the mindset Tony’s shown so far.
Like Tony: “This might be a wolf tactic because most people just leave these sort of mutual tunnels alone d1. be cautious of this”
Also Tony: leaves mutual tunnel alone, makes an easy, low-commitment vote
Why isn’t he pushing at the tunnel? It just makes me go ???

Re: Nanook is probably just lazy civilian getting pushed for a miselim.

The whole thing looks like Marcher was trying to keep tabs on a wide range of subjects/players and wasn't afraid to get their hands dirty. I like that.

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i wonder if most of the mechanics of the game are already spelled out in the OP or if there are likely to be hidden ones coming up later

My entirely unsubstantiated guess would be a decent amount more but idk

I’d be kinda surprised if there were additional mechanics. There’s already a good chunk of complexity considering the fractional voting system, a presumably high amount of night actions considering the Glory stat exists, after-death interactions via Hope, a whole economy system with sols and the slugmarket that’ll add on items that have abilities and will affect all the other systems. There’s not much room for even more systems.

There might still be some sorts of events or something that helps connect already-existing systems though, maybe an event like triumvirates pair off against each other and compare some stat, higher sum wins sols or other events of that nature?

Glory might be useful to know about because it relies on specific breakpoints so it’s good to know someone’s glory if you’re alocating hope points to them. The issue is that it might accidentally lead into people softing their roles by saying that their night action is really good or mediocre to try to influence who spends glory on them.

prescence/quickness seem less useful to know. I guess there’s utility in knowing the exact state of very close wagons, or in avoiding accidentally losing a miselim by banishing all the high-voting civilians (though claiming quickness also lets mafia target high-boting civilians for the same effect)

Hope doesn’t really seem useful to know. I guess if we decide to just claim glory and hope, knowing hope gives more information to try to deduce the rest of the stats from?

There’s also the consideration that the OP might only say the basic uses of the stats and stuff could come up later that uses them to some other end.

conclusion:
claiming p—not good
claiming q—eh
claiming g—should be considered
claiming h—eh, probably not

But yeah I don’t think stat claiming is a good idea just yet.

Some early mechanical chatter. "Mafia talk about mechanics" is a completely overdone argument. I'm acknowledging the possibility and moving on. I do not find it compelling but did not want to ignore this completely.

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#weirdreads: moth is town because if moth was scum all this talk would be in scumchat rather than in the main thread

I like the moth read well enough and think it is again a reflection of an independent and honest thought process. Marcher has suggested elsewhere that they've paid attention to folks involved in the Champs tournament, so I have absolutely no trouble believing that they would bring a meta read of moth into this game. This read does not need to exist if it's insincere.

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@Marcher Jovian considering most of it was like half an hour into D0 I don't think I'd even call it that much of a thing, really

I don't have that much of a takeaway from it

I don't like this response. It feels really wishy-washy "I am neutral and have no strong opinions one way or the other".

@Lissa
Out of:
town/town
nutella wolf
sloonei wolf
scum/scum

where are you leaning right now. I don't care if you want to qualify it by saying it's only by the razor-thinnest of margins. just tell me where your head's at right now.

Strong follow-up when Lissa gives a weak answer to a question. I like, and wave this post mockingly in the face of anyone who tries to argue that Marcher is not doing anything with their questions.

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feeling pretty solid about that post eod sequence of jovian posts

why

just felt pure and real

this reasoning is meh.

what is the problem with it exactly

It is meh.

This sequence, however, is entirely unhelpful. What is "meh" about Lissa's posts? What does "meh" mean as far as he alignment is concerned? This is just dismissive for no real purpose.

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That case was still utter garbage btw. It was legit just a shrug case. Like here's how it basically went:
Is Carot a wolf?
*shrug* maybe
there was utter jack for evidence.
like legit the strongest argument there was that the Carot didn't have many votes already. what kind of case was that. When is that ever a sincere thought.
Carot was pushed for utter garbage reasons and I am dissuaded.
I will not apologise for defending my convictions.

What does everyone think of Jovian shading Tutuu before her death? Actual clear or clear attempt?

It doesn't feel staged so nah not a clear attempt. Even if I strongly townread them I don't think that *this* particularly is the thing to clear Marcher Jovian.

really ghana need to see more from motobot and macdougall here

Why these two specifically? What about Soneji & DrWilgy?

@Carotenoid I really believed radish was going to be a hit, I think that's evident in my iso. And yeah I have waffled quite a bit on you/jovian, I'm gonna try not to tunnel either of you too hard today because my last tunnel was wrong. it's good to see you putting in actual work but you are definitely on my shortlist for today

Now that Master Radishes flipped town, what do you think about dunya? Who do you think acted wolfy and opportunistic at EoD?
You acknowledging that you waffled on us doesn't change that you're still waffling.

god why did y'all ever want to yeet this. look at this. Thank you Carote for your continued work validating my read.

I could say the same about this as well, but while I'm here I want to note that I think this kind of emotional outburst is more indicative of a civilian than a mafioso.

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I advice y'all right now to take a break and take stock. Who's just sitting around here? Who's letting this happen? Who's just passively going along and letting this happen. Keep track, don't forget, remember this.

This is better. Marcher appears to have collected themselves and is ready to dive back in refreshed. I think their approach on Day 2 has reflected a player who is conscientious of the way Day 1 played out.

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I wanna town read Dunya for wanting to hand town reads like candy in this game state, because it comes from the PoV of a villager that wants to advance the game in some sort of way if that makes sense

the timing of it is better than the actual action

stop making good posts that's illegal

If I asked you to summarize your outlook on the state of this game right now in 250-500 words, what would you say?

You should also upload your resume with a cover letter.

today feels a lot better than yesterday. like things and solving are actually happening and town is finding town and working out and comparing their PoEs rather than everyone trying to chase down their own lead. good vibes. I'm a bit afraid we might be missing something right now and I'm getting pocketed by someone, but eh better to focus on chasing down the shallower wolves first and working off of a flip.

Which players have been the most noteworthy in this sudden uptick of game-solving? Where does your discomfort about potential pocketing stem from? Can you name names again? What might we be missing? Feel free to just vomit words, I don't care about (or even necessarily want) fully developed thoughts on this.

good new stuff: tedx's today right now feels so much better than his yesterday. You sticking out notes to compare on KZA and the talk about why KZA in general
potential pockets: you and dunya, primarily. You did a kinda white-knighty thing when you said you liked the way I posted and thought it reminded you of yourself yesterday when ted was focusing me and ted called you (and zack) out on it. Your playstyle vibe thus far has felt kinda procedural? Like not necessarily bad, just very measured and by the book and easily replicatable as either alignment. Dunya is a few things. Like her early posts on d1 felt a bit dunya.exe (though that might be just a multitabling thing) and her sheep onto radishes and eod in general feels kinda ehhhh. d2 feels fine and actually feels good vibes but I know she's a good player and has nothing really clearing her and stepping between a tvt tunnel and saying "I think you're both town" is a classic move for cred

other fears/missing things—Long Con read, which I don't get but is just kinda accepted without challenge. Just generally being with good players who aren't out of wolf range like zack or visor. Lissa town reads.

As a final point to solidify what is now a more confident town read on Marcher, I like their progression on ted today. After Day 1, Marcher was leading the charge against Ted because of Ted's leading the charge on them earlier on. But as Day 2 has progress, ted has evidently shown something that Marcher likes, and they've reversed course a bit. If Marcher is mafia they can easily just maintain that ted OMGUS, at least as a background thing. But to state outright that they feel "much better" about Day 2 ted is, once again, suggestive of a player who is earnestly trying to think things through in this game.

My lingering concern is not related to Marcher directly. Having done this ISO, I realize I don't really have any idea why people have suspected Marcher (outside of ted's Day 1 case), so I don't know how much of this ISO is a response, direct or indirect, to the case(s) against Marcher. That is something else to examine.

tl;dr: I do not condone a vote for Marcher Jovian at this time.

[Sloonei]

nutella can't possibly think I'm scum here if she's town

therefore she's scum

[Sloonei]

Carot's Excellent Point™:

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Marcher Jovian is town.

if you are town i should probably sheep this

if you are town can you be more obvious plz

I've been more obvious elsewhere. I'm too tired to be obvious right now. If you really want me to be obvious just go back and read some of my earlier posts and pretend they're right now.

nah most of your earlier posts suck too

I think you had like a few posts that were more townish than not that made me put you in my town pile but I don't currently remember what they were and the vast majority of your posts are blah

You might wanna look at this http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 36#p620336

[nutella]

Carot's Excellent Point™:

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Marcher Jovian is town.

if you are town i should probably sheep this

if you are town can you be more obvious plz

I've been more obvious elsewhere. I'm too tired to be obvious right now. If you really want me to be obvious just go back and read some of my earlier posts and pretend they're right now.

nah most of your earlier posts suck too

I think you had like a few posts that were more townish than not that made me put you in my town pile but I don't currently remember what they were and the vast majority of your posts are blah

You might wanna look at this http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 36#p620336

this tells me you did not even read my post.

I acknowledged that I did have you in my town pile for a period of time. I didn't remember why.

there is no contradiction, and even if there was one, well you know what you say about hypocrisy.

[Carotenoid]

2 nights ago you claimed turnip was shading nutellA

and turnip had a v read on nutella but was shading her

omg lol this
alright let's look at this sequence for moth

Context: I was scumreading nutella & Turnip Head
Turnip Head was townreading nutella
nutella was townreading moth

At some point I post this

nutella, why were you so confident MR was a wolf?

I was only kinda confident and then I found the dunya compatibility and I got myself into a preflip world tunnel

was nice playing with you tutuu!


@Carotenoid I really believed radish was going to be a hit, I think that's evident in my iso. And yeah I have waffled quite a bit on you/jovian, I'm gonna try not to tunnel either of you too hard today because my last tunnel was wrong. it's good to see you putting in actual work but you are definitely on my shortlist for today

Turnip Head answers this:

^ Gotta love the red tape. as Internal Affairs combs through your correspondence looking for the last remaining shreds of your humanity to backstab you with

I read that as Look at this nutella bad

After this Turnip Head goes being a townie is hard and moth answers agressively-ish. nutella goes moth what are you saying it doesn't make sense in a condescending-ish way

So I end up posting this:

Turnip Head shading nutella their townread and nutella shading moth one of her strong townread is wow

Meaning that I find it suspicious that two people I scumread starts to turn around on their strong townreads ish when they're getting attention. That's like, something that happened, but definitely not *the* thing that's making me scumread them at the moment so I would appreciate that you take the time to actually read me please

[moth]

Ehhhh

[moth]

These attempts to gush townreads on caro for posting a link???

gimme a fuckin break. this was cw to flipped town. how is there zero interest in flipping this fuckin slot. shes even wolfy and making half assed pushes

[nutella]

sloonei, if it will make you feel better I will try and find the time today (I'm doing a gazillion things) to find the period of the game that made me put you in green. but the fact that I don't remember my reasoning, and that everything you've said since then has set off alarm bells in my head, is a bad sign.

[Carotenoid]

Alright I'm going to eat and ISO nutella after

[moth]

I dont understand how none of the caro voters have any interest in that wagon today whatsoever

[nutella]

I'm actually baffled that sloonei thought that was a good point. Like what on earth

[moth]

at least a policy elim on wilgy makes a little bit of sense

[tedxtr]

at least a policy elim on wilgy makes a little bit of sense

What makes you think it's policy?

[Sloonei]

Carot's Excellent Point™:

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Marcher Jovian is town.

if you are town i should probably sheep this

if you are town can you be more obvious plz

I've been more obvious elsewhere. I'm too tired to be obvious right now. If you really want me to be obvious just go back and read some of my earlier posts and pretend they're right now.

nah most of your earlier posts suck too

I think you had like a few posts that were more townish than not that made me put you in my town pile but I don't currently remember what they were and the vast majority of your posts are blah

You might wanna look at this http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 36#p620336

this tells me you did not even read my post.

I acknowledged that I did have you in my town pile for a period of time. I didn't remember why.

there is no contradiction, and even if there was one, well you know what you say about hypocrisy.

My point, which may or may not have been carot’s point, is that you town-read me when everyone else was town-reading me, but then conveniently forget why when everyone else started suspecting me.

[nutella]

Carot's Excellent Point™:

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if you are town i should probably sheep this

if you are town can you be more obvious plz

I've been more obvious elsewhere. I'm too tired to be obvious right now. If you really want me to be obvious just go back and read some of my earlier posts and pretend they're right now.

nah most of your earlier posts suck too

I think you had like a few posts that were more townish than not that made me put you in my town pile but I don't currently remember what they were and the vast majority of your posts are blah

You might wanna look at this http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 36#p620336

this tells me you did not even read my post.

I acknowledged that I did have you in my town pile for a period of time. I didn't remember why.

there is no contradiction, and even if there was one, well you know what you say about hypocrisy.

My point, which may or may not have been carot’s point, is that you town-read me when everyone else was town-reading me, but then conveniently forget why when everyone else started suspecting me.

I don't recall my read of you being influenced by others. I recall independently deciding you were town based on something and laying off of you. Then you started looking bad again.

[Sloonei]

Carot's Excellent Point™:

Spoiler: show

I've been more obvious elsewhere. I'm too tired to be obvious right now. If you really want me to be obvious just go back and read some of my earlier posts and pretend they're right now.

nah most of your earlier posts suck too

I think you had like a few posts that were more townish than not that made me put you in my town pile but I don't currently remember what they were and the vast majority of your posts are blah

You might wanna look at this http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 36#p620336

this tells me you did not even read my post.

I acknowledged that I did have you in my town pile for a period of time. I didn't remember why.

there is no contradiction, and even if there was one, well you know what you say about hypocrisy.

My point, which may or may not have been carot’s point, is that you town-read me when everyone else was town-reading me, but then conveniently forget why when everyone else started suspecting me.

I don't recall my read of you being influenced by others. I recall independently deciding you were town based on something and laying off of you. Then you started looking bad again.

No I didn’t.

[nutella]

Found it. Post #869, seemingly because we were mindmelding a bit on tedxtr being weird about jovian.

I'll have to think about how much I care about that anymore

[dunya]

i think nutella is town.

i really wanted to be right about her d1 with the whole radish fiasco, but her tone did a 180 when she put effort into the game and i see the same confidence and arrogance (and spontaneity) town nutella usually has

i'll get there.

[dunya]

sloonei is also town, so stop tunneling him nutella.

[Sloonei]

sloonei is also town, so stop tunneling him nutella.

My read on you was going to be 99% reliant upon your read on me today, so dunya is town.

[moth]

at least a policy elim on wilgy makes a little bit of sense

What makes you think it's policy?

common sense

[dunya]

at least a policy elim on wilgy makes a little bit of sense

What makes you think it's policy?

common sense

maybe spell it out for the people who don't have any of that

what makes wilgy a policy elim over any other lurker?

[dunya]

sloonei is also town, so stop tunneling him nutella.

My read on you was going to be 99% reliant upon your read on me today, so dunya is town.

lock it in. we're gonna win this shit.

[tedxtr]

at least a policy elim on wilgy makes a little bit of sense

What makes you think it's policy?

common sense

I made a case. Surely, you might call it weak / disagree with it, but it's definitely not a policy?

[tedxtr]

Do you think he's town / he didn't have scummy content?

[Turnip Head]

[VOTE: moth] aubergine

Not really a fan of his tone lately or his push on carot which seems disingenuous from my POV

[Turnip Head]

If "he" is the wrong pronoun for moth I apologize