Alright so I just parsed through outed wolf's posts and collected all the instances where he does something adjacent to taking a stance on a player. I'm gonna color them rainbow-style (as I interpret them) to track his progression.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:36 pm
[VOTE:
Nutella] aubergine
I am thunderously calm.
- A Day 0/1 vote without justification.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:38 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:37 pm
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:35 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:33 pm
bronana wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:32 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:30 pm
Oh and sloonei is already there. Hell yeah.
But why, sloonei did you state your vote/anything really so far? Why should I wanna be on your triumvirate?
wolfy post
boom roasted.
why
Sloonei has made a couple posts and isn't projecting town yet and if he doesn't start doing so soon I will be very concerned
i assume this is sarcasm/joke of some kind?
also nice, thx jjj
no, why would you assume that
it's completely serious, sloonei is usually good at projecting town early and his first couple posts did zero for me in that regard so when I saw he had voted where I did without explanation I wanted...explanation or something towny from him because I don't want to be voting with a wolf
i think he had made 2 posts at the time and i dont think any meant anything for his alignment (to me anyway)
- Tentative defense in response to tentative suspicion.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:40 pm
upon isoing him. idk how sloonei plays but uh. i suppose there is not much of anything there. could just be playstyle for now i guess.
not that im expecting much at all, but its just 5 word questions.
maybe you're right nutella!
- Newfound support of the aforementioned tentative suspicion.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:44 pm
moth wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:43 pm
im pretty sure outed, tony and bronan are all scum.
nutella is turning on jets in a towny way
i cant tell if you are going for TWTBAW here deliberately or what
cause it kinda feels like you're aiming for it
- The wording is ambiguous, but this post feels like its intention is to shade the moth.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:47 pm
moth wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:47 pm
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:44 pm
moth wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:43 pm
im pretty sure outed, tony and bronan are all scum.
nutella is turning on jets in a towny way
i cant tell if you are going for TWTBAW here deliberately or what
cause it kinda feels like you're aiming for it
so this is the first time youve called me wolfy. and now not only am I wolfy, im OUTLANDISHLY wolfy.
sounds desperate
no i said you're aiming for "Too Wolfy To Be A Wolf"
your post about me/TSP/bronana is silly.
- A slightly firmer stance than the previous post.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:34 am
i think brainbomb is a villager but its light
ymmv
- A direct statement. I assume brainbomb = moth since I don't know who else that could refer to.
tony - no justification given
outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:54 pm
bronana wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:25 pm
@outed wolf
do yuo have a readon lissa?
its p early man
i could punt one but seems silly when its early d0
- Avoids taking a stance when asked directly.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:55 pm
Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:12 pm
why does no one want to talk with me
you're not really trying to alk to anyone afaict
you tagged what,lissa?
but prior to that there wasn't much.
weird post m'lord.
- Not a clear stance taken, but "weird post" indicates shade.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:37 pm
[VOTE:
TonyStarkPrime] aubergine
- no justification given
outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:30 pm
magic 8 ball says macdougall is a wolf
- The Magic 8 Ball
outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:52 am
i have slight tmi-ey vibes from marchers post about nanook
outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:53 am
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:52 amOW town
KZA VIllage
- seems like a reciprocal town read and nothing more. meh
outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:53 am
even if bronana was a wolf (and he could be who knows)
theres no way hes a good d1 lynch
(nor is lissa)
ignore the fact they are in my triumvirate pls
- Says nothing.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:54 am
thoroughly unsatisfied with mr dougalls performance so far
- Call for action
outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:40 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:37 pm
Visor, you had Marcher as one of the few people that you actually had reasons to scum read
Are you gonna vote there?
Maybe!
Maybe I'll just stick to voting motobot
- States a preference to vote for motobot over Marcher for no given reason.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:49 pm
What's the radishes votes for? Fluff posting too much?
- Does not firmly state a stance, but the question itself is a leading towards a negative perception of Radishes. I will make an official note in the record to say this is a Bad Look.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:16 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:11 pm
I feel very strong on outed wolf being an outed wolf, it’s the only actual scum read I have right now that involves actual reasoning
its terrible reasoning and involves looking into irrelevant things so deeply you can't see the forest for the trees
my question is something i (and every other player in the game) would ask as either villager or a wolf. its a perfectly neutral question asked to gain understanding of the current state of the game.
reading into this is like reading tea leaves. you wanna click buttons, be my guest.
having tedxtr act like he's all clever for voting me because there's a 25% chance he could be right and have gotten in on the ground floor is just stupid, and it's insulting that you think it would be at all productive regardless of my role
- outed wolf reacts emotionally in response to ted's suspicion, but that response seems to suggest that he sees ted as a civilian in the exchange (personal interpretation)
outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:26 pm
bronana wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:21 pm
yo ow
do you have any thoughts on carot or marcher
not super defined.
carott i know got a bunch of heat in their champs game (well, thats what i picked up from spec chat anyway.) i figure theyd be an easy push regardless of alignment, and at least from what i had seen prior to this morning hadn't really dont anything outside ask a bunch of questions. no real read there. marcher i thought his defence of nanook was super premature and felt like tmi defence of a villager, after that i kinda just let him do his thing. i havent had particularly strong feelings on his posts, but i think there is a possibility i may be predisposed to thinking his style is wolfy, lol.
so, not particularly. i should prob iso them but ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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marcher - Spends a few sentences saying nothing about Carot. Expresses substantial negative read on Marcher.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:31 pm
okay i isoed carrot
lotta questions which is fine, but doesn;t feel like carrot is building up to anything with them, doesn't feel like they're using it to get reads or get into the headspace of players
could just be a playstyle difference here, and i dont think its a lock case but i can understand why people are wolfreading there
- Still not committing to a stance, but this assessment skews closer to negative than positive.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:43 pm
@bronana
you wanna walk me through the tedxtr read
he seems very snappy/obnoxious/arrogant like in that way villagers tend to get when they think they are gods gift to mankind. you said he was much more reasonable in the game you played with him
i dont really think hes a wolf i just wanna get a better understanding
- Definitively states a town read on Ted (a rare thing to this point), while also asking bronana to explain his own read on ted and being critical of ted's play.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:09 am
whats the good word
i read yalls posts
marcher a wolf?
his defence of carot is interesting, i cant imagine having such a strong village read on her outside of masonry if im honest
just not the kind to be super villagery
- outed wolf is very eager to see Marcher get some pressure.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:06 pm
really ghana need to see more from motobot and macdougall here
- Generic prod
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:28 pm
i will say i was somewhat swayed by jovians emotional pleas over the last page
i intended to say this before the night ended lol
even though his peddling of the same argument in the same words is troubling, im not sure this is the line he takes as a wolf here
ymmv
please convince meotherwise
- An abrupt turn!
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:14 am
think we're focusing too much on carote/marcher etc
they could be wolves but we're definitely caught up in them too much
need to spread the net a bit.
- "They could be wolves, but let's look elsewhere." That favorable view of marcher was only a momentary blip. I have things to say about this progression on marcher afterwards.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:46 am
i take back whatever i said earlier
whatever you're doing marcher, it is a detriment to your alignment
find a calmer, better, more reasoned line of play
- Not a read, but criticism. I feel it is skewed slightly negative.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:19 pm
what even is the case on kza
- Tone of the question seems slightly dismissive, which would imply a slight town read, or at least a preference not to vote there.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:36 pm
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:28 pm
sloonei what do you think of mac
nutella, TH, also appreciate opinion here
are you just doing that thing where you can't be bothered actually playing so you just pick one player to tunnel all game like I am doing to lissa?
i feel personally attacked
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actually its 2 players
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and lol poor lissa.
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well, im pushing you and motobot because 1: motobot hasnt done ANYTHING and nobody wants to talk about it, and you're doing nothing and you seemed pretty engaged in the anzac game so im wondering why you're not engaging in this one
i just wanna hear from your syndicate pals if this is par for the course for you or not, if it is, i'll probably drop it for now but we'll see
- The same as always.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:56 pm
bronana wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:53 pm
mac / marcher / turnip head / wilgy / soneji
convince me any of those are villagers
uh
about the only thing i could say about any of these is TH is kinda just slinging stuff which is.... ok?
- The vaguest town read possible. Avoids taking a stance on mac(!?), marcher(!?), wilgy, and soneji/cayvie.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:11 pm
mac lock v never changing
- I assume this is a joke.
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MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:38 pm
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:36 pm
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:35 pm
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:34 pm
actually i thought your post was off
i dont know why you asked me that 500 posts into day 0 (iirc?)
seemed lazy
lissa is playing differently beacuse she's off site, its making her hard to read, her early posts were very tonally wolfy
im not sure where i stand on her atm
so if you agree that her early posts were wolfy, then why were you voting for me throughout the entire early game while I was just basically tunneling her?
woah now, i voted for a lot more than just you bronana
also i didnt really have any idea you were tunneling her
it's literally all i did on day 0 and day 1, are you saying you didn't iso me?
i did
your posts were all 5 word crap so i skimmed them
my posts were super short so you skimmed them?
you had a gut scum read on lissa, I had a gut scum read on lissa, you read my ISO, you voted me? and you were voting me until an hour ago?
you seems caught boi
i did not have a guy scum read on lissa. i disliked her early posts on d0 but didn't want to do anything with them because it eas a) early d0 b) playing on a different site so her playstyle may be different.
I skimmed your iso, it was full of a lot of crap and nothing of substance (which I'm sure you'll agree) and i voted you amongst many other people that day.
i don't get caught you moron.
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mac - Avoids taking a stance on Lissa while continuing to make the same point about Mac's lack of content (not an unfair assessment).
outed wolf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:52 pm
sloonei has the tedxtr 'i am gods gift' type swagger in his posting
i do typically associate with villagers because they dont care about the way thy come off most of the time
- The language is a bit halting ("i do
typically associate..."), but this is a distinctly favorable view of the player called Sloonei.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:45 am
at this point marcher just kinda has to go regardless because of how discussion has been centered solely around him
- Pseudo-policy elimination.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:49 am
Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:11 am
outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:45 am
at this point marcher just kinda has to go regardless because of how discussion has been centered solely around him
Visor: “marcher just kinda has to go”
Also Visor: *votes TSP*
???
[VOTE:
outed wolf] aubergine
remarkable that you have quoted two distinctly different thoughts and attempted to tie them together
how do you do it
- unapologetic shade.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:33 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:31 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:25 pm
I’m not thrilled by the prospect of banishing wilgy.
I would still lean town on Marcher Jovian, though I feel like their current assessment of the game is underwhelming (I am allergic to null reads).
Let’s all talk some more about outed wolf. He’s been a suspect without there really being an in depth discussion about him at any point that I’ve noticed. I meant to ISO him earlier, but then my stomach decided to be uncooperative all day.
What makes them a suspect?
I do like their vote for TSP.
nvm, Outed is a coward and changed their vote.
I still think tsp is underwhelming but nobody else wants to vote on him and I said I'd vote with bronana
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bronana - Tony is "underwhelming" and a deserving suspect. Bronana is trustworthy.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:59 pm
vote marcher yo
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:09 pm
i want to give some real sideeye to nutella and the turnip wagon in general
- Unsubstantiated shade at a group of people. Only one name given.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:59 pm
Long con and motobot go to some serious lengths to avoid playing the game
- Mac has been replaced by LC in this pairing. I have seen outed wolf do nothing meaningful with these prods.
outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:19 pm
why is long con unvoteable
what on earth has he done to make himself worthy of that
- Guilty until proven innocent.
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I did this exercise because I have not been able to identify any firm reads from outed wolf at any point in this game, and as I progressed through I began to realize that wasn't an oversight on my part. His reads are brief and static. There are more negative than positive reads in here, but very little in the way of
substantiated reads. I think that is the source of our collective uncertainty about outed wolf so far. He's hovered around and cast suspicion/doubts about people, but I struggle to find any examples of him making things happen. He asks a lot of questions, but I don't see evidence that he cares the answers he receives (irony acknowledged).
I am particularly concerned with the persistent negative reads he has expressed: Marcher, Mac, motobot, and Tony to be specific. It is difficult to make out much progression on any of those reads. Other than these comments, I'm not fully sure what conclusions I have drawn here, other than a better understanding of visorwolf's general presence in the thread. If others have anything to add or comment on, please feel free to do so.
I mentioned in the mess above that I have more detailed thoughts about his progression on marcher. I'll get into that in a separate post.
