Jack Attack Mafia (Day 5)

[Hally]

to me it feels like lc is simply hopping from one person to another to see where he can gain any traction

jay mildly susses him, lc screams for his head and votes him

some people tr kitsu, lc votes her not because he sr’s her but because he doesnt think she should be tr

jay asks lc what his read on epi is, lc pulls out suspicion on epi from nowhere and votes him

it all feels pretty unnatural tbh. im not seeing a town waterfall here, im seeing a wolfy plinko board

I hope you stick around The Syndicate. You'll have a chance to learn how to read me without falling back on safe-sounding metaphors.

im not sure what youre trying to achieve with this response

[Millium]

its extremely weird to me that two people just sheep lc onto epi and idk what it means

It means chill the f out with your huge assumption that I'm autobad, and start treating me like most players in this game?

????? why is this your reaction?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Wut

Why

Is

This

A wagon

[Hally]

its extremely weird to me that two people just sheep lc onto epi and idk what it means

It means chill the f out with your huge assumption that I'm autobad, and start treating me like most players in this game?

this response has nothing to do with the post you quoted

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Consolidating onto LC for now

Will hard shield Epi tbh

[Millium]

Wut

Why

Is

This

A wagon

I think LC made a wall or something?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

A wall of bad maybe

[Millium]

[VOTE: LongCon] aubergine
yeet

[Hally]

to me it feels like lc is simply hopping from one person to another to see where he can gain any traction

jay mildly susses him, lc screams for his head and votes him

some people tr kitsu, lc votes her not because he sr’s her but because he doesnt think she should be tr

jay asks lc what his read on epi is, lc pulls out suspicion on epi from nowhere and votes him

it all feels pretty unnatural tbh. im not seeing a town waterfall here, im seeing a wolfy plinko board

I hope you stick around The Syndicate. You'll have a chance to learn how to read me without falling back on safe-sounding metaphors.

this post has an air of condescension that i wonder if lc would direct at me if i was reading him correctly

im not sure what his scum range for this type of thing is though

[Hally]

its very possible my read on lc is wrong but if it is im not going to get there if he responds to me in that way

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I don’t even have an LC read tbh he’s just better than Epi

[TonyStarkPrime]

Why is Epi town nanook

[Hally]

tbh i dont think epi has been like... that towny really

[Epignosis]

We have had a wee bit of company for the first time since March 13th. I don't know what I've done or have not done to warrant three votes and from these individuals, but I am sure I will ascertain that directly.

[Hally]

tbh i dont think epi has been like... that towny really

actually reading his iso id still say hes pretty townish. not my strongest read but enough that i wouldnt support voting for him

[Long Con]

to me it feels like lc is simply hopping from one person to another to see where he can gain any traction

jay mildly susses him, lc screams for his head and votes him

some people tr kitsu, lc votes her not because he sr’s her but because he doesnt think she should be tr

jay asks lc what his read on epi is, lc pulls out suspicion on epi from nowhere and votes him

it all feels pretty unnatural tbh. im not seeing a town waterfall here, im seeing a wolfy plinko board

I hope you stick around The Syndicate. You'll have a chance to learn how to read me without falling back on safe-sounding metaphors.

im not sure what youre trying to achieve with this response

A more open mind regarding Mafia playstyles.

its extremely weird to me that two people just sheep lc onto epi and idk what it means

It means chill the f out with your huge assumption that I'm autobad, and start treating me like most players in this game?

????? why is this your reaction?

its extremely weird to me that two people just sheep lc onto epi and idk what it means

It means chill the f out with your huge assumption that I'm autobad, and start treating me like most players in this game?

this response has nothing to do with the post you quoted

You are surprised that people could possibly agree with a case from me because, in your mind, I'm definitely a wolf, so how could they possibly agree with anything I say?

Consolidating onto LC for now

Will hard shield Epi tbh

Why?

[Hally]

actually no lc, the quick sheeping of your epi case is ling me wonder if youre town and scum jumped on it opportunistically

[Funnygurl555]

not for an lc kill. thanks

vote still on sprit tho there is STILL a self vote

[Hally]

actually no lc, the quick sheeping of your epi case is ling me wonder if youre town and scum jumped on it opportunistically

*making me wonder

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

to me it feels like lc is simply hopping from one person to another to see where he can gain any traction

jay mildly susses him, lc screams for his head and votes him

some people tr kitsu, lc votes her not because he sr’s her but because he doesnt think she should be tr

jay asks lc what his read on epi is, lc pulls out suspicion on epi from nowhere and votes him

it all feels pretty unnatural tbh. im not seeing a town waterfall here, im seeing a wolfy plinko board

I hope you stick around The Syndicate. You'll have a chance to learn how to read me without falling back on safe-sounding metaphors.

im not sure what youre trying to achieve with this response

A more open mind regarding Mafia playstyles.

its extremely weird to me that two people just sheep lc onto epi and idk what it means

It means chill the f out with your huge assumption that I'm autobad, and start treating me like most players in this game?

????? why is this your reaction?

its extremely weird to me that two people just sheep lc onto epi and idk what it means

It means chill the f out with your huge assumption that I'm autobad, and start treating me like most players in this game?

this response has nothing to do with the post you quoted

You are surprised that people could possibly agree with a case from me because, in your mind, I'm definitely a wolf, so how could they possibly agree with anything I say?

Consolidating onto LC for now

Will hard shield Epi tbh

Why?

I’ve been vocally TRing Epi for a large portion of the game, why would it surprise you that I’d defend him

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

Why are you moving off LC?

Because the day phase is long and there are more players to solve. Voting is a part of making that happen.

When it comes to actually removing a player from the game, the only vote that matters is the last.

I'll give you a pass for this because I think town JJJ does genuinely hop his vote around to try to solve people but if your vote doesn't end up back on LC by EoD and he flips scum I will make it my personal mission to get you lynched

I don’t know if I am supposed to interpret this as a vote demand, but I’m not taking chances with my role. Refer to my very first post.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I thought you were joking.

You must know how much this tempts me so.

[Epignosis]

and I generally believe that having to fake orgasmic back and forths with a partner amps up the awkwardness

Honey, I can tell you some stories...

ORGANIC

I MEANT ORGANIC

I know.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like ok...I’ll admit that there’s a chance I’m wrong on Epi. But. I don’t think I am, he’s still significantly >rand town imo. I’m not going to tinfoil paranoia kill him D1 “just in case I’m wrong.” I’m not blindly treating him as town and never reconsidering for the entire game, but he’s done nothing since my initial TR of him to make me change my mind or think I’m wrong, so I’m sticking to that read today.

I get that people around these parts may not be used to the idea of actively defending your townreads, and it can be scary to do cause what if you defend a mafia, that’s pretty embarrassing. But it isn’t gonna stop me from doing it when I think someone is very high chance to be town

[Funnygurl555]

I’ve been vocally TRing Epi for a large portion of the game, why would it surprise you that I’d defend him

i've been scum reading epi the whole time and yet ppl are saying i'm following lc

sucks when ppl forget the things u do

[Epignosis]

I find it hard to believe that a civilian Long Con just blows the hell up like that without even asking me any questions or anything. Straight from 0 to murder rage. I am capable of quick turns on players, but that's not something I can recall feeling before.

Alison just accused you and LC and then voted for LC while acknowledging that nobody was coming for your head.

Huh.

I'm a realistic player. JJJ is townread by enough players that I don't think it's likely I'll be able to kill him today. LC is a much more viable kill. If I think both are wolf, I should vote LC rather than waste my time banging against a brick wall and getting neither JJJ nor LC killed in the end.

I also think LC has slightly higher wolf equity, because if I am wrong about it being W/W, I would tend to believe the wolf between them is LC.

If JJJ is going to eat it, it's probably going to be me who has to push it, and I have zero indication that JJJ is bad. If that changes I'll let you know.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’ve been vocally TRing Epi for a large portion of the game, why would it surprise you that I’d defend him

i've been scum reading epi the whole time and yet ppl are saying i'm following lc

sucks when ppl forget the things u do

Idk why this is aimed at me I was just responding to LC asking me a question

[Hally]

I’ve been vocally TRing Epi for a large portion of the game, why would it surprise you that I’d defend him

i've been scum reading epi the whole time and yet ppl are saying i'm following lc

sucks when ppl forget the things u do

to clarify, when i said people are sheeping lc i meant wilgy and tony not you

[Funnygurl555]

I’ve been vocally TRing Epi for a large portion of the game, why would it surprise you that I’d defend him

i've been scum reading epi the whole time and yet ppl are saying i'm following lc

sucks when ppl forget the things u do

Idk why this is aimed at me I was just responding to LC asking me a question

im salty

[Funnygurl555]

I’ve been vocally TRing Epi for a large portion of the game, why would it surprise you that I’d defend him

i've been scum reading epi the whole time and yet ppl are saying i'm following lc

sucks when ppl forget the things u do

to clarify, when i said people are sheeping lc i meant wilgy and tony not you

ok

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’ve been vocally TRing Epi for a large portion of the game, why would it surprise you that I’d defend him

i've been scum reading epi the whole time and yet ppl are saying i'm following lc

sucks when ppl forget the things u do

Idk why this is aimed at me I was just responding to LC asking me a question

im salty

Don’t be salty at me it’s not my fault

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If Epi is mafia I’ll make you an “FG has better reads than I do” drawing

[Hally]

i still honestly dont feel like fg is wolf

[Epignosis]

In hindsight, I have entirely screwed up the town to mafia ratio in this game since I've given the entire town my unchoppableness. I think adding eight more wolves and a vigilante or two will set things right. Please stand by for new role pms.

Spoiler: show

I was just going to say it would be funny if jack created a game that was just all town. It would be like a monsters are due on maple street type deal. Jack is the only real mafia making us all turn on each other.

this “what if we’re all town” speculation is, in my experience, more likely to actually come from town

I like that take. Sabie town.

If there’s one LC post I like, it’s this one. Hally’s positive mark for sabie is on the frivolous side, and LC was content to support it anyway. sabie is a player the mafia may need to chop to win the game just given her lower volume. It’s a small thing but whatever there you go.

Why do you want me to get chopped? Are you going to chop me and get me out of the way?
Sadface
I'm trying. I'm just not around as much when the millions of posts see happening. It takes me a little bit to get into games and even though you said catching up is pointless I like to anyway so I have an idea of what's going on.

This reaction gives me the impression that sabie is good.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yeh she’s like

Upper POE for me

Certainly no interest in killing her today

[Epignosis]

today is the big day. I'm sure all will go okay wish me luck! I'll check in here and there and I'll be home by end of day

[Funnygurl555]

If Epi is mafia I’ll make you an “FG has better reads than I do” drawing

[Long Con]

actually no lc, the quick sheeping of your epi case is ling me wonder if youre town and scum jumped on it opportunistically

Very well. Sorry. I am also salty. I'm really a nice guy, you know.

to me it feels like lc is simply hopping from one person to another to see where he can gain any traction

jay mildly susses him, lc screams for his head and votes him

some people tr kitsu, lc votes her not because he sr’s her but because he doesnt think she should be tr

jay asks lc what his read on epi is, lc pulls out suspicion on epi from nowhere and votes him

it all feels pretty unnatural tbh. im not seeing a town waterfall here, im seeing a wolfy plinko board

I hope you stick around The Syndicate. You'll have a chance to learn how to read me without falling back on safe-sounding metaphors.

im not sure what youre trying to achieve with this response

A more open mind regarding Mafia playstyles.

its extremely weird to me that two people just sheep lc onto epi and idk what it means

It means chill the f out with your huge assumption that I'm autobad, and start treating me like most players in this game?

????? why is this your reaction?

its extremely weird to me that two people just sheep lc onto epi and idk what it means

It means chill the f out with your huge assumption that I'm autobad, and start treating me like most players in this game?

this response has nothing to do with the post you quoted

You are surprised that people could possibly agree with a case from me because, in your mind, I'm definitely a wolf, so how could they possibly agree with anything I say?

Consolidating onto LC for now

Will hard shield Epi tbh

Why?

I’ve been vocally TRing Epi for a large portion of the game, why would it surprise you that I’d defend him

Because I think there's a difference between generally believing someone is town, and "hard-shielding" them.

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

Why are you moving off LC?

Because the day phase is long and there are more players to solve. Voting is a part of making that happen.

When it comes to actually removing a player from the game, the only vote that matters is the last.

I'll give you a pass for this because I think town JJJ does genuinely hop his vote around to try to solve people but if your vote doesn't end up back on LC by EoD and he flips scum I will make it my personal mission to get you lynched

I don’t know if I am supposed to interpret this as a vote demand, but I’m not taking chances with my role. Refer to my very first post.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I thought you were joking.

You must know how much this tempts me so.

I don't believe that for a second. You don't have a chip on your shoulder regarding yeeting me.

Like ok...I’ll admit that there’s a chance I’m wrong on Epi. But. I don’t think I am, he’s still significantly >rand town imo. I’m not going to tinfoil paranoia kill him D1 “just in case I’m wrong.” I’m not blindly treating him as town and never reconsidering for the entire game, but he’s done nothing since my initial TR of him to make me change my mind or think I’m wrong, so I’m sticking to that read today.

I get that people around these parts may not be used to the idea of actively defending your townreads, and it can be scary to do cause what if you defend a mafia, that’s pretty embarrassing. But it isn’t gonna stop me from doing it when I think someone is very high chance to be town

THAT is a better answer to "Why?". Thank you.

If Epi is mafia I’ll make you an “FG has better reads than I do” drawing

Do I get anything?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

No sorry FG was salty first

[KitsuShel]

@KitsuShel where are you thinking of voting today?

I just got home from working a ten hour shift, catching up now!

[Hally]

[mention]Long Con[/mention] no worries

[Epignosis]

WOW 30 pages to catch up on good lord

What's good, Colin?

Who's good, Colin?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

FWIW LC I don’t particularly want to do you first, I’d just rather do you than Epi. If wilgy or colin or even sprit are viable I’d go there too

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m gonna take a nap, will likely but not 100% for sure be here again before EOD

[Hally]

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

lettuce see where this goes

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

The acceptable kills today are [Wilgy, Colin, Sprit, LC] roughly in that order

Off the table are myself/jay/Hally/Epi/wisp/daisy/kits

Everyone else you probably shouldn’t kill either

Please adhere to this, this is how towncoring wins games. I’m relying on whomever of that towncore I listed plus Alison and sabie to enforce this if myself and jay aren’t around for EOD, please and thank you.

[Epignosis]

can we not

like this game was going so well

suddenly its a sludge pool that i dont wanna go near

big rip

probably because mafia members came into the thread and were upset that townies were working too well together so they intentionally started a fight in a very loud and dragged-out way that repulses people from reading it

this is objectively... not what happened. jay was already both in the town core and helping to organize it when lc came in and did his thing

i find your w/w theory on them very unbelievable tbh

Do you believe Alison believes it?

[Epignosis]

and I generally believe that having to fake orgasmic back and forths with a partner amps up the awkwardness

Honey, I can tell you some stories...

ORGANIC

I MEANT ORGANIC

you actually did not make a typo. epi changed the word himself because hes a troll

Who, me?

[Hally]

The acceptable kills today are [Wilgy, Colin, Sprit, LC] roughly in that order

Off the table are myself/jay/Hally/Epi/wisp/daisy/kits

Everyone else you probably shouldn’t kill either

Please adhere to this, this is how towncoring wins games. I’m relying on whomever of that towncore I listed plus Alison and sabie to enforce this if myself and jay aren’t around for EOD, please and thank you.

aye aye! o7

[Hally]

can we not

like this game was going so well

suddenly its a sludge pool that i dont wanna go near

big rip

probably because mafia members came into the thread and were upset that townies were working too well together so they intentionally started a fight in a very loud and dragged-out way that repulses people from reading it

this is objectively... not what happened. jay was already both in the town core and helping to organize it when lc came in and did his thing

i find your w/w theory on them very unbelievable tbh

Do you believe Alison believes it?

i believe she could, yeah. she, unlike a lot of others, wasnt tring jay at the time so her pov of the jay vs lc thing could understandably be different from my own

[Epignosis]

@sprityo i still cant parse the reasoning for your wisp vote. could you clarify?

Wisp’s posts this game have been grating and could’ve accomplished any questions/information they wanted to acquire in a different manner.

The way they went about it made the environment feel more hostile and that takes away from the rational problem solving trying to be accomplished.

You could call it something similar to chaos-mongering. Basically they were inhibiting the town’s ability to function and I see that as a mafia mentality and way of playing

I want to hear more about this, because I don't get that impression.