vote for someone else in the poe then
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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all I was talking about was FG's possible alignmentsabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:52 amMaybe I misunderstood your post then. I thought you were saying pawn killed fg. Do you think Jack is messing with us and the wording is misleading on purpose?Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:50 amI am not talking about Nanook in the slightestsabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:48 amBut the post suggested that Pawn killed nanook who was town.Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:43 am Pawn pretty much town sided with his kill then did nothing with it
in regards to Funny
1. Her EoD was wolfy
2. Her calling LC town, her counter train, was townie as shit, and super bad if she was a wolf
3. 2 gets completely invalidated because she was apparently lynchproof?...
I know what the flavor says about Nanook's death
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nah I meant exessabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:36 amI was going to say something about it but I figured her phone or device must be auto correcting axes to exes for some reason haha.
exe = execute
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
tbh its not actually a bad idea for a town rber to holster N1
colin seems like the type to do that
also pawn definitely didn’t town side by killing nanook
colin seems like the type to do that
also pawn definitely didn’t town side by killing nanook
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That was what I was trying to say but then wisp said I misunderstood his post.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
this is obvious probably but to the extent that we thought epi and kitsu and whoever else looked good off nanook dying that’s now been voided given we know pawn killed nanook and likely was not on a team with anyone
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
we thought that?
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I'll be back after work, also I see what I did now. I said that Pawn killing FG and then not doing anything with it was weird. That was my mistake
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
pawn killed nanook, not FG, as far as we can tell from the flavor
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
That's why I get into trouble. I'm not connected to the groupthought!
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:15 am Assertion:
Tony wanted to chop Not Pawn because Pawn's flip outs him. Nobody else in this game can so clearly be associated with the notion that the mafia knew Pawn was 3P.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
This is why we don’t mess around with OGI, kids. Girl genius. That’s all. This shouldn’t be discussed.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:38 am To be frank:
Until Tony provides a coherent explanation for "Pawn is 3P oh wait nevermind nope", I am considering him outed.
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Sorta stupid but I forgot about poll title. Daw probably just a wolf.Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:36 am here is a thought
if jack daw is a town vig and knows that their kill janitors the flips of their target, they shouldn’t shoot anymore
now that we’ve yeeted the sk, the balance of the game is in towns favor because we’ve just removed a source of anti town kp
we dont really need a vig shooting now if it’s gonna mean we get no flips from the shots
i promise we’ll regret it when its like D4 and we have three flips in the PoE pool whose alignments we don’t even know
we need to be able to make connections and actually solve for the team and we can’t do that with missing flips
i can foresee a horror story down the line where we vig scum and don’t know it and the teammate who are left are able to exploit the lack of flips to screw us
so i think if jack daw is town they shouldn’t shoot
again, this only applies to if you know for a fact your kill was the reason fg didn’t flip and not because of fg herself
if that doesn’t apply fire away
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
hrmTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:38 pmSorta stupid but I forgot about poll title. Daw probably just a wolf.Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:36 am here is a thought
if jack daw is a town vig and knows that their kill janitors the flips of their target, they shouldn’t shoot anymore
now that we’ve yeeted the sk, the balance of the game is in towns favor because we’ve just removed a source of anti town kp
we dont really need a vig shooting now if it’s gonna mean we get no flips from the shots
i promise we’ll regret it when its like D4 and we have three flips in the PoE pool whose alignments we don’t even know
we need to be able to make connections and actually solve for the team and we can’t do that with missing flips
i can foresee a horror story down the line where we vig scum and don’t know it and the teammate who are left are able to exploit the lack of flips to screw us
so i think if jack daw is town they shouldn’t shoot
again, this only applies to if you know for a fact your kill was the reason fg didn’t flip and not because of fg herself
if that doesn’t apply fire away
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
i think we will know what daw is when they make their next kill
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Yeah a good point on Daw probably
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
how could daw be a wolf though? its a character that one player has right? but mafia is presumably a team with a factional kill not one person
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daw could easily be the flavor of the janitor
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Someone should be write up copping the blond guy with the sword portals.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
I suspect Jay, Epi, and you.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
Okay LC that’s your prerogative
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
This is arbitrarily likely for a reason that hasn’t been mentioned yet. Town points to whoever gets it.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:45 pmI dunno wolves are comic book characters? Jack of Hearts, Jack Daw, Jack some other Jack.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
Actually I guess scum points cause the mafia team would know. We have quite a few character claims and none of them are comic.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
This is low key too innocent to be a wolfColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:19 am Tbh 3 scum feels like a lot though. Have we definitively said FG isn’t one? Because NANOOK’s death seems like a logical scum-NK to me
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
Pawn killed NanookWisp wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:43 am Pawn pretty much town sided with his kill then did nothing with it
in regards to Funny
1. Her EoD was wolfy
2. Her calling LC town, her counter train, was townie as shit, and super bad if she was a wolf
3. 2 gets completely invalidated because she was apparently lynchproof?...
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All right now color me confusedWisp wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:50 amI am not talking about Nanook in the slightestsabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:48 amBut the post suggested that Pawn killed nanook who was town.Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:43 am Pawn pretty much town sided with his kill then did nothing with it
in regards to Funny
1. Her EoD was wolfy
2. Her calling LC town, her counter train, was townie as shit, and super bad if she was a wolf
3. 2 gets completely invalidated because she was apparently lynchproof?...
I know what the flavor says about Nanook's death
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[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] what are u confused about? I explained that the first line was a mistake already, the second half of that posts is just my thoughts on Funny's alignment
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
Since Sprityo subbed out I think this shouldn’t be discussed, but Sprityo was the serial killer in that game and played it substantially differently than he did here. It was enough for me to make an off the cuff post about it.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
And like how often do you get serial killer meta
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thats not ogi if that game is overTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:57 pmSince Sprityo subbed out I think this shouldn’t be discussed, but Sprityo was the serial killer in that game and played it substantially differently than he did here. It was enough for me to make an off the cuff post about it.
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I’m so confused I don’t even know what questions to ask. Can you just restate the ideas in those two posts?
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
Inferences could be made about sprityo subbing out here that I didn’t and don’t want to get into hereHally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:58 pmthats not ogi if that game is overTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:57 pmSince Sprityo subbed out I think this shouldn’t be discussed, but Sprityo was the serial killer in that game and played it substantially differently than he did here. It was enough for me to make an off the cuff post about it.
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Why did you think Pawn WAS 3P for ten seconds?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:57 pmSince Sprityo subbed out I think this shouldn’t be discussed, but Sprityo was the serial killer in that game and played it substantially differently than he did here. It was enough for me to make an off the cuff post about it.
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cause it made sense for him to be 3p if you’re a wolf with knowledgeJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:00 pmWhy did you think Pawn WAS 3P for ten seconds?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:57 pmSince Sprityo subbed out I think this shouldn’t be discussed, but Sprityo was the serial killer in that game and played it substantially differently than he did here. It was enough for me to make an off the cuff post about it.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
or alternatively it’s a 1 line read and the “who’s the serial killer out of the POE pool” is not the part I spent time thinking about
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What’s the difference?
I don’t think this is remotely angleshooting unless we’re dwelling in “all meta reads are angleshooting” philosophy.
What’s the difference?
I don’t think this is remotely angleshooting unless we’re dwelling in “all meta reads are angleshooting” philosophy.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
I don’t know if you’ve noticed this but I tend to post my reads *before* I think about them
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He subbed in there — that’s funny. He has seven posts in five days in that game, none with game relevant content, and stuck around the whole time.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:06 pm sprityo in Girl Genius
What’s the difference?
I don’t think this is remotely angleshooting unless we’re dwelling in “all meta reads are angleshooting” philosophy.
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my order already changed since posting that since I decided I was leaning more town on tsp. would put colin at top nowAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:32 amtalk to me about this ordering?nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:51 pm So I have basically agreed with the town core all along but as always I have a fear that someone is being incorrectly cleared somewhere
If I had subbed in before nanook had died, I absolutely would have suspected him lol and he can roll in his grave for me expressing any contrarianism to the established poe, but having subbed into one of the poe'd slots and now knowing it's town, I have no choice but to assume someone is probably going deep here
Like i guess wolves could just be colin/alison/tsp but idk
I never really felt the daisy TR originally, then the redirected check or whatever was meh
hally/wisp/lc as close to mech clear as possible in this bastardish setup
jay.... prob just town
sabie idk honestly
kitsu i agree with the reasoning to clear
epi.... could be mafia here? the implication that mafia knew pawn was 3p doesn't seem to mesh with how he treated pawn though?
i guess my poe is something like
tsp > alison > colin > sabie > epi > daisy
Also consider this: if mafia had a targeted redirector, they knew pawn was 3p. If mafia are truly poe clamped they probably want to leave pawn alive so he can kill townies with his extra KP (maybe even kill both investigatives in one night so we can't get any info). This suggests that wolf Epi does have a reason for defending pawn. Why is it inconsistent in your eyes?
also that's a good point about epi I guess.
hmmmm maybeAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:50 amI believe this could be a legit wolf slip
makes senseJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:05 am I highlighted one moment here that spoke to me nicely. Colin seemed to become a bit indignant in his handling of pressure from Alison in such a way that I don't think it looks like he is dealing with his teammate. If he is a mafioso, then there is a release of frustration evident in that moment. A mafioso Colin might have also meant to pocket Alison with that initial "top town read" judgment.
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Definitely a difference in pace. When did you first notice this difference to drive your view that sprityo would be an unlikely serial killer in this game?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:09 pmHe subbed in there — that’s funny. He has seven posts in five days in that game, none with game relevant content, and stuck around the whole time.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:06 pm sprityo in Girl Genius
What’s the difference?
I don’t think this is remotely angleshooting unless we’re dwelling in “all meta reads are angleshooting” philosophy.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
Immediately after I posted the Jay/Epi/Alison thing and stepped back and thought about it, probably. Maybe when Sprityo subbed out.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:12 pmDefinitely a difference in pace. When did you first notice this difference to drive your view that sprityo would be an unlikely serial killer in this game?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:09 pmHe subbed in there — that’s funny. He has seven posts in five days in that game, none with game relevant content, and stuck around the whole time.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:06 pm sprityo in Girl Genius
What’s the difference?
I don’t think this is remotely angleshooting unless we’re dwelling in “all meta reads are angleshooting” philosophy.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
I'd had this thought too (why can't wisp be fooling us) but there's also hally's voyeur which confirmed wisp checked LC so like. if they're teammates they knew to still actually do the action in case they were tracked/voyeured, or the alternative is hally is also scum with them which I'm not even to consider atm. occam's razor is to just trust wisp as long as he's providing us info, and if that info is ever proven to be dirty we can entertain tinfoilKitsuShel wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:46 amPlaying Devil’s Advocate, what if Wisp is scum and that role is their way of getting fake claims to use? But they came across an opportunity to make him look like a good guy.Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:12 am we should start planning our actions
i think it would be a good idea for us to investigate nut? i really like the idea of having a confirmed town!nut if shes town. at the same time i thiiiink i may be able to pick out nuts village game as she posts more
epi is also a good choice for an investigation i think?
colin has claimed miller so we can vig or yeet him ig
i will voyeur whoever wisp and daisy decide to check
and whatever protective role we have (if we do have one) should pretty much always be on wisp
Or what if he and LC are on a team and they decided to pull that stunt together to move them to give them a secure spot in towncore? That’d be ballsy af. Just tossing around different ideas.
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it’s fair game to talk about the meta of someone who subbed out as long as you don’t talk about it as the reason they subbed outTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:59 pmInferences could be made about sprityo subbing out here that I didn’t and don’t want to get into hereHally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:58 pmthats not ogi if that game is overTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:57 pmSince Sprityo subbed out I think this shouldn’t be discussed, but Sprityo was the serial killer in that game and played it substantially differently than he did here. It was enough for me to make an off the cuff post about it.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
man I think LC mentioned this but way back in the day some of us played with no flips on NKs as the norm and now I can't even remember how we ever figured anything out lmaoHally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:36 am here is a thought
if jack daw is a town vig and knows that their kill janitors the flips of their target, they shouldn’t shoot anymore
now that we’ve yeeted the sk, the balance of the game is in towns favor because we’ve just removed a source of anti town kp
we dont really need a vig shooting now if it’s gonna mean we get no flips from the shots
i promise we’ll regret it when its like D4 and we have three flips in the PoE pool whose alignments we don’t even know
we need to be able to make connections and actually solve for the team and we can’t do that with missing flips
i can foresee a horror story down the line where we vig scum and don’t know it and the teammate who are left are able to exploit the lack of flips to screw us
so i think if jack daw is town they shouldn’t shoot
again, this only applies to if you know for a fact your kill was the reason fg didn’t flip and not because of fg herself
if that doesn’t apply fire away
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
wait what? there’s only 8 posts thereJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:06 pm sprityo in Girl Genius
What’s the difference?
I don’t think this is remotely angleshooting unless we’re dwelling in “all meta reads are angleshooting” philosophy.
Spoiler: show