Radiohead Mafia [GAME OVER]

[juliets]

@Alison I remember you talking about maybe being redirected on I think N3. Did you come to a conclusion that didn't happen or wasn't likely to have happened or do you still suspect it might be true?

I don't remember this. I think you're town though.

Thanks Alison. And it must have been someone else talking about your N3 results possibly being wrong.

[Poison]

I hope to see something from colin when I'm back. Too early to form a read but idk intuition says they might be scum?

How in the world could you possibly have “intuition” telling you anything about me with nearly zero posts

Poison scumming

Imagine calling poison a scum after playing with her in g9 and seeing the extremes of scumminess one can do. Lol. Anyways I see a lot of notifications from you, I'll be attending those. Oh btw!!!! Hello.. Also did you change your pfp to this one cause the other one never made others read you @Samusamu ? btw Herm is here as well ! And Master Radishes!! Hype!

idk man skimming her ISO and I just can't fathom scum her having the balls to do this type of thing

like in this game, if she played like this then huge props, I am like 60% confident she would've been the yeet over nutella d1 if she were to be scum here, simple as that.

I cannot take this as a compliment, bubblegum.

[Poison]

I skimmed through a bit. [mention]tedxtr[/mention] why do you think I'm a 3P? Do you think if I was one and I have the wincon of matching songs, would I be ballsy enough to claim my role likr that instead of making something up?

[Poison]

Locked town (can't be 3p)

tedxtr


Locked not mafia

Alison
Mac


Nutella spew question mark ?

spf
juliets
dyachei


Soul read not wolf

Poison Chan


Alleged checks / heard there were shenanigans here that I didn't get into just yet

Nanook
LC


People we don't know anything about

Oddmerta
Dizzy

Tbh, I think odd, Dya, juliets are just confirmed town. Just a theory, whoever says "Good morning Mr. Magpie" they are either all town, or the person having this ability get a confirmation of their alignments or something. Had played a game with this mech few months ago.

[tedxtr]

I skimmed through a bit. @tedxtr why do you think I'm a 3P? Do you think if I was one and I have the wincon of matching songs, would I be ballsy enough to claim my role likr that instead of making something up?

You don't need to have balls to claim your role if you help the village with it.

[Poison]

I skimmed through a bit. @tedxtr why do you think I'm a 3P? Do you think if I was one and I have the wincon of matching songs, would I be ballsy enough to claim my role likr that instead of making something up?

You don't need to have balls to claim your role if you help the village with it.

Does it really work that way though?

[tedxtr]

work what way

[tedxtr]

are you like openly wolfing right now, lol

are you TMIng that you don't help the village

I don't see what your point was

[tedxtr]

like what position do you have to be arguing from in order to make a comment like that

"Do my abilities really help the village? Hmmm"

[Poison]

like what position do you have to be arguing from in order to make a comment like that

"Do my abilities really help the village? Hmmm"

No I'm not saying that I'm saying would a 3P be so careless as to reveal it like that just because they help the villagers?

[Poison]

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] have you seen my 3P plays?

[tedxtr]

like what position do you have to be arguing from in order to make a comment like that

"Do my abilities really help the village? Hmmm"

No I'm not saying that I'm saying would a 3P be so careless as to reveal it like that just because they help the villagers?

why do you think it's careless?

[MacDougall]

actually not as confident while typing out the stuff I had

lol

ted, if I were Nutella's mafia partner I certainly would have taken the opportunity to vote for Tim at the end of day 1 when some of us were having second thoughts about her claiming she had a boat that protected people. It was a perfect opportunity to jump off of her like some others did. In the end though I was convinced she was mafia and stayed on her.

Is that so. I don't recall you ever saying this before. In fact you were in agreement with me at the time that her claim was believable and never updated that opinion.

[juliets]

actually not as confident while typing out the stuff I had

lol

ted, if I were Nutella's mafia partner I certainly would have taken the opportunity to vote for Tim at the end of day 1 when some of us were having second thoughts about her claiming she had a boat that protected people. It was a perfect opportunity to jump off of her like some others did. In the end though I was convinced she was mafia and stayed on her.

Is that so. I don't recall you ever saying this before. In fact you were in agreement with me at the time that her claim was believable and never updated that opinion.

I said in my message to ted "when some of us were having second thoughts...". Us includes me. At the end though I stayed on nutella. My point to Ted is I could have easily moved to Tim since I had shown some doubt but I didn't. Why would I stay on her if I were her mafia partner?

[MacDougall]

The role is believable to me. Now what?

I don't think she's fake. It's too random. Boats? C'mon. Also she'd come up with a fake claim that'd be more believable if she was fake.

Yeah it's the boat part that got me too.

I don't see where you determined she was scum. More like you just left your vote there because you didn't get enough other votes/JPIC and Samu didn't show up in time.

[MacDougall]

actually not as confident while typing out the stuff I had

lol

ted, if I were Nutella's mafia partner I certainly would have taken the opportunity to vote for Tim at the end of day 1 when some of us were having second thoughts about her claiming she had a boat that protected people. It was a perfect opportunity to jump off of her like some others did. In the end though I was convinced she was mafia and stayed on her.

Is that so. I don't recall you ever saying this before. In fact you were in agreement with me at the time that her claim was believable and never updated that opinion.

I said in my message to ted "when some of us were having second thoughts...". Us includes me. At the end though I stayed on nutella. My point to Ted is I could have easily moved to Tim since I had shown some doubt but I didn't. Why would I stay on her if I were her mafia partner?

Why would mafia who is voting nutella move to Tim if there is no chance of it going over?

And if you really did change your mind like you say why didn't you say as much at any point at the end of the day or when I called you out on not moving off her several times on day 2?

[MacDougall]

It's a facetious argument Juliets. Even if Samu and JPIC were sitting in scum chat with you for Tim to go over would require basically all of you to have moved. Mafia teams don't do that.

[juliets]

The role is believable to me. Now what?

I don't think she's fake. It's too random. Boats? C'mon. Also she'd come up with a fake claim that'd be more believable if she was fake.

Yeah it's the boat part that got me too.

I don't see where you determined she was scum. More like you just left your vote there because you didn't get enough other votes/JPIC and Samu didn't show up in time.

I did not say outright "I am staying on nutella" I just stayed on her. Is there a problem with that? Things were a whirlwind during that EOD.

[juliets]

It's bullshit that I was waiting for anyone to appear.

[MacDougall]

The role is believable to me. Now what?

I don't think she's fake. It's too random. Boats? C'mon. Also she'd come up with a fake claim that'd be more believable if she was fake.

Yeah it's the boat part that got me too.

I don't see where you determined she was scum. More like you just left your vote there because you didn't get enough other votes/JPIC and Samu didn't show up in time.

I did not say outright "I am staying on nutella" I just stayed on her. Is there a problem with that? Things were a whirlwind during that EOD.

I think there is. You are generally someone who likes to explain yourself. You also like to explore people's thoughts to evaluate situations. You didn't do that at the end of the day. You just stated you believed her, sheeped me with a succinct post and otherwise said nada. I don't see how you wouldn't say anything if you were paying enough attention to change your opinion.

Tell me what exactly made you change your mind back to her being mafia?

[juliets]

Here is my explanation for my progression.

I'm not sure why anyone would think I was bussing or distancing from nutella but I'm not disturbed by it at the moment. I think there is plenty of evidence I wasn't.

I have some questions for some people but I will save them for tomorrow and I want to absorb Mac's lists first.

My main reservation is that in light of the fact that Nutella spent nearly half the day (the latter half) a near certain yeet, at some point she's likely to go into anti-spew mode and she chose to spend most of her remaining time pushing onto you and at no point did it feel like she was going to get anywhere with that at all. You also didn't move your vote off of her when you said you bought her claim, which I think could be explained by virtue of Tim also being mafia so moving your vote to him serving little purpose.

Ok, I see what you are seeing about Nutella talking about me but I am sure she did it for the express purpose of making sure I went down after her. I am LHF to her, easy to take down. I'll be damned if I let her show everyone she can outsmart me.

As for moving my vote, this was my progression (I'll pull quotes for you tomorrow if you need me too). When nutella first claimed my immediate reactions was it sounded too specific to be a lie. I made some comment to you I think at that point. Meanwhile though, Hally and SPF were saying we shouldn't move our votes and I remember I think SPF saying something like if this was a game where we all had abilities we couldn't just pull away from chopping someone who claimed.

Then, you started asking nutella questions about her role and she started embellishing, saying for instance she had a list of every song in the game. Finally you said something like "you're making it up as you go along" and I knew I wasn't going to move my vote. That was quite late but there was still time. Somewhere in there I also asked about Colin as a possibility. I did not understand at all why people were jumping on Tim - I don't know whether I missed the reasoning or a lot of people just saw something I didn't.

So that's how it went down for me. Like I said, I'll be happy to pull quotes if you like to illustrate.

[MacDougall]

It's bullshit that I was waiting for anyone to appear.

Maybe. Maybe you were going to switch off but couldn't find a valid reason to vote Tim. Maybe you and Nutella decided it was safer for you to just leave your vote there.

[juliets]

The role is believable to me. Now what?

I don't think she's fake. It's too random. Boats? C'mon. Also she'd come up with a fake claim that'd be more believable if she was fake.

Yeah it's the boat part that got me too.

I don't see where you determined she was scum. More like you just left your vote there because you didn't get enough other votes/JPIC and Samu didn't show up in time.

I did not say outright "I am staying on nutella" I just stayed on her. Is there a problem with that? Things were a whirlwind during that EOD.

I think there is. You are generally someone who likes to explain yourself. You also like to explore people's thoughts to evaluate situations. You didn't do that at the end of the day. You just stated you believed her, sheeped me with a succinct post and otherwise said nada. I don't see how you wouldn't say anything if you were paying enough attention to change your opinion.

Tell me what exactly made you change your mind back to her being mafia?

I just posted the conversation we had earlier about this subject.

[juliets]

It's bullshit that I was waiting for anyone to appear.

Maybe. Maybe you were going to switch off but couldn't find a valid reason to vote Tim. Maybe you and Nutella decided it was safer for you to just leave your vote there.

Did you read my explanation?

[MacDougall]

You did make that Colin post. So in the middle of deducing nutella was actually mafia and not moving your vote you thought it pertinent to attempt to push onto someone else?

[MacDougall]

Also could you explain this?

"I am sure she did it for the express purpose of making sure I went down after her. I am LHF to her, easy to take down. I'll be damned if I let her show everyone she can outsmart me."

[juliets]

You did make that Colin post. So in the middle of deducing nutella was actually mafia and not moving your vote you thought it pertinent to attempt to push onto someone else?

I didn't push - I asked about him. I was considering possibilities, looking at all angles. As I said at the time and will say again, I didn't understand the votes for Tim.

[MacDougall]

Let me paint a picture Juliets. You tell me that if you were mafia with Nutella it wouldn't go down like this.

Step 1 - Nutella would distance from you. Nutella is someone who would need to do this because you and her have played together too much if you town read each other or avoided engagement it would out the other if one of you flipped. True or false?

Step 2 - If there was a chance of saving your partner going down day 1 you would have a go at taking it would you not? You'd at least lend your voice to naysayers.

Step 3 - Is it not possible that seeing that there is no way to save your partner you decide to not move your vote after all? Would nutella not encourage you to keep your vote there in that scenario, knowing what you know about her?

[juliets]

Also could you explain this?

"I am sure she did it for the express purpose of making sure I went down after her. I am LHF to her, easy to take down. I'll be damned if I let her show everyone she can outsmart me."

I don't understand what you want me to explain. It's very clear cut. She was after me because she see's me as LHF, someone easy to chop. She wanted me to be chopped. I said I would be damned if I let that happen.

[MacDougall]

Also could you explain this?

"I am sure she did it for the express purpose of making sure I went down after her. I am LHF to her, easy to take down. I'll be damned if I let her show everyone she can outsmart me."

I don't understand what you want me to explain. It's very clear cut. She was after me because she see's me as LHF, someone easy to chop. She wanted me to be chopped. I said I would be damned if I let that happen.

Specifically you said she did it for the purpose of making sure you went down AFTER her. That's what I'd like you to explain. How does her actions profile as wanting you to be chained to her scumflip?

[MacDougall]

PS. I've been watching Suits lately so I'm grilling you like a lawyer in a deposition lol.

[juliets]

Let me paint a picture Juliets. You tell me that if you were mafia with Nutella it wouldn't go down like this.

Step 1 - Nutella would distance from you. Nutella is someone who would need to do this because you and her have played together too much if you town read each other or avoided engagement it would out the other if one of you flipped. True or false?

Step 2 - If there was a chance of saving your partner going down day 1 you would have a go at taking it would you not? You'd at least lend your voice to naysayers.

Step 3 - Is it not possible that seeing that there is no way to save your partner you decide to not move your vote after all? Would nutella not encourage you to keep your vote there in that scenario, knowing what you know about her?

Nutella usually reads me as scum when I'm town so sure, if we were partners she might read me as scum again. We have never been scum partners so I don't really know whether this is true or not.

If nutella was my partner and I saw an opportunity to jump onto someone else because others were doing it and it wouldn't be suspicious thats what I'd do.

I cannot guess what nutella would have told me to do. You'll have to ask her. It looked to me that Tim had a good chance to go over. iirc dya was also talking about moving her vote, there may have been others, there was a lot happening. The important thing is people were jumping off of nutella onto Tim and if I had done that it would have looked fine.

[juliets]

Also could you explain this?

"I am sure she did it for the express purpose of making sure I went down after her. I am LHF to her, easy to take down. I'll be damned if I let her show everyone she can outsmart me."

I don't understand what you want me to explain. It's very clear cut. She was after me because she see's me as LHF, someone easy to chop. She wanted me to be chopped. I said I would be damned if I let that happen.

Specifically you said she did it for the purpose of making sure you went down AFTER her. That's what I'd like you to explain. How does her actions profile as wanting you to be chained to her scumflip?

Oh I was talking about at the end when she was still pushing me after it looked like she was going down.

[MacDougall]

Also could you explain this?

"I am sure she did it for the express purpose of making sure I went down after her. I am LHF to her, easy to take down. I'll be damned if I let her show everyone she can outsmart me."

I don't understand what you want me to explain. It's very clear cut. She was after me because she see's me as LHF, someone easy to chop. She wanted me to be chopped. I said I would be damned if I let that happen.

Specifically you said she did it for the purpose of making sure you went down AFTER her. That's what I'd like you to explain. How does her actions profile as wanting you to be chained to her scumflip?

Oh I was talking about at the end when she was still pushing me after it looked like she was going down.

So you are saying Nutella was in fact pushing you to make you look like partners?

[juliets]

Also could you explain this?

"I am sure she did it for the express purpose of making sure I went down after her. I am LHF to her, easy to take down. I'll be damned if I let her show everyone she can outsmart me."

I don't understand what you want me to explain. It's very clear cut. She was after me because she see's me as LHF, someone easy to chop. She wanted me to be chopped. I said I would be damned if I let that happen.

Specifically you said she did it for the purpose of making sure you went down AFTER her. That's what I'd like you to explain. How does her actions profile as wanting you to be chained to her scumflip?

Oh I was talking about at the end when she was still pushing me after it looked like she was going down.

So you are saying Nutella was in fact pushing you to make you look like partners?

At the end yes.

[MacDougall]

Thanks for answering all my questions

[juliets]

Thanks for answering all my questions

You're welcome.

Honestly though, I have no problem if we have tons of chops left before we lose if you want to just chop me to get this slot resolved. I don't have any shots left so I'm not useful there and the mafia is not likely to NK me because of that. I would rather not end up in a F3 or close to it where I can blow the game after we played this hard.

Right now though, I'm going to wash my hair.

[Long Con]

Hair-washing tell. Hard mafia.

[juliets]

Well, I'm back but not much is happening. I'll be around if there is anything I need to address.

[Logic]

Hair-washing tell. Hard mafia.

This tell isn't exactly new to me, but how?

The coffee tell I get. The sleep deprived I get. But hair washing?
Can someone explain to me that one?

[Logic]

Also, I put in my track, so I'm out after tonight.

[juliets]

Hair-washing tell. Hard mafia.

This tell isn't exactly new to me, but how?

The coffee tell I get. The sleep deprived I get. But hair washing?
Can someone explain to me that one?

Lol, I'm pretty sure he's kidding.

[Dyslexicon]

I'm not really in this game anymore. I can't be.

I'm out of shots. Yeet me if you must. I'm town.

I guess Alison is scum or there's shenanigans in alignment checks.

[juliets]

ok I'm gone again

[MacDougall]

I would be surprised if I'm not the victim tonight but we will see. Good luck everyone.

[Logic]

This sure is a lot of woe from a town that nailed 3 mafia in the first 4 days.

Calm down and focus. Hunt. We have plenty of chances to get this right.

[juliets]

This sure is a lot of woe from a town that nailed 3 mafia in the first 4 days.

Calm down and focus. Hunt. We have plenty of chances to get this right.

Mmmm good pep talk Logic!

[Logic]

This sure is a lot of woe from a town that nailed 3 mafia in the first 4 days.

Calm down and focus. Hunt. We have plenty of chances to get this right.

Mmmm good pep talk Logic!

I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I choose to view it as not.

(Besides, with all these commitments to slanking, I want to shore up town's drive to hunt so I get to slank.)

[juliets]

This sure is a lot of woe from a town that nailed 3 mafia in the first 4 days.

Calm down and focus. Hunt. We have plenty of chances to get this right.

Mmmm good pep talk Logic!

I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I choose to view it as not.

(Besides, with all these commitments to slanking, I want to shore up town's drive to hunt so I get to slank.)

Oh no Logic no no, I know you don't know me well but I'm rarely sarcastic in mafia, that was true feels. We had been droopy and you said just the right thing.

[MacDougall]

This sure is a lot of woe from a town that nailed 3 mafia in the first 4 days.

Calm down and focus. Hunt. We have plenty of chances to get this right.

I'm not concerned.