Bike [END]

[Made]

oh, townlean seanzie. he seems neat

[Marmot]

I am:

1) Out of bourbon,
2) Required to be physically present on campus tomorrow morning even though there will be zero students there, and
3) Pooped.

I'm here for a few moments more, and then I'm out.

I'm sorry you're out of bourbon, but you're still awesome.

[Epignosis]

I am:

1) Out of bourbon,
2) Required to be physically present on campus tomorrow morning even though there will be zero students there, and
3) Pooped.

I'm here for a few moments more, and then I'm out.

I'm sorry you're out of bourbon, but you're still awesome.

I drank all my Christmas present.

[Marmot]

I am:

1) Out of bourbon,
2) Required to be physically present on campus tomorrow morning even though there will be zero students there, and
3) Pooped.

I'm here for a few moments more, and then I'm out.

I'm sorry you're out of bourbon, but you're still awesome.

I drank all my Christmas present.

I hope you were at least counting on AFC North teams that aren't named the Steelers today.

[Epignosis]

I am:

1) Out of bourbon,
2) Required to be physically present on campus tomorrow morning even though there will be zero students there, and
3) Pooped.

I'm here for a few moments more, and then I'm out.

I'm sorry you're out of bourbon, but you're still awesome.

I drank all my Christmas present.

I hope you were at least counting on AFC North teams that aren't named the Steelers today.

I went light today. Football and basketball at the same time like this was rough.

[Made]

Ok i understand. Butting in to answer questions meant for others is generally a scum tell, be careful.

It totally isn't imo. This is kind of what I mean with using "general scum tells" that are meant to apply to everyone. I don't know, it's not my thing. But it's ok if it works for you.

I don't tend to be careful. =p

but one step further, policy scum tells are really only useful in context- unless you're mafia in which case it's always useful

[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

explain

this whole interaction (this plus the parts snipped) gives me bad vibes on top of the weird general rule ur applying

[Seanzie]

oh, townlean seanzie. he seems neat

Tell me more! Specifically how neat I am!

But seriously, any reason for the townlean?

[Made]

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine tutuu should be able to tell me why

I can't.

Huh. That's not the greatest look.

If you want me engage you will have to explain.

Never mind. I was just kidding.

Tutuu couldn't explain your vote, so could you?

Nah, never mind. It wasn't serious. I'm unvoting.

ewww

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

If my reads are correct, this is the third town in a row Made has shaded. First it was me, then it was the Guillotina vote, and now Long Con.

[Made]

oh, townlean seanzie. he seems neat

Tell me more! Specifically how neat I am!

But seriously, any reason for the townlean?

I just like the cut of your jib. I can point to specific jibs if you'd like

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

If my reads are correct, this is the third town in a row Made has shaded. First it was me, then it was the Guillotina vote, and now Long Con.

Is Made sheeping me?

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

If my reads are correct, this is the third town in a row Made has shaded. First it was me, then it was the Guillotina vote, and now Long Con.

Is Made sheeping me?

Not sure why are you asking me this question, I have no answer, I don't think there is anything important here.

[Made]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

If my reads are correct, this is the third town in a row Made has shaded. First it was me, then it was the Guillotina vote, and now Long Con.

I mean i'm not gonna keep my reads to myself.

Thoughts on Long Con?

[Seanzie]

oh, townlean seanzie. he seems neat

Tell me more! Specifically how neat I am!

But seriously, any reason for the townlean?

I just like the cut of your jib. I can point to specific jibs if you'd like

Yes please!

I think in general jib is Nai.

Are you British?

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

If my reads are correct, this is the third town in a row Made has shaded. First it was me, then it was the Guillotina vote, and now Long Con.

I mean i'm not gonna keep my reads to myself.

Thoughts on Long Con?

My thoughts on Long Con are in my ISO. Didn't you ISO me?

[Epignosis]

oh, townlean seanzie. he seems neat

Tell me more! Specifically how neat I am!

But seriously, any reason for the townlean?

I just like the cut of your jib. I can point to specific jibs if you'd like

Yes please!

I think in general jib is Nai.

Are you British?

Yes, I think Vaguely Ohio is somewhere just east of Leicestershire, I'm sure of it.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

If my reads are correct, this is the third town in a row Made has shaded. First it was me, then it was the Guillotina vote, and now Long Con.

Is Made sheeping me?

Not sure why are you asking me this question, I have no answer, I don't think there is anything important here.

Sorry, I didn't really mean it to be a question directed at you. I quoted your post because it made me realize that you, Guillotine and Long Con have been the people I have voted, an interesting coincidence. The question was intended to be more directed to the thread in general, sorry.

[Seanzie]

oh, townlean seanzie. he seems neat

Tell me more! Specifically how neat I am!

But seriously, any reason for the townlean?

I just like the cut of your jib. I can point to specific jibs if you'd like

Yes please!

I think in general jib is Nai.

Are you British?

Yes, I think Vaguely Ohio is somewhere just east of Leicestershire, I'm sure of it.

Current location is not always indicative of where one is from originally.

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

If my reads are correct, this is the third town in a row Made has shaded. First it was me, then it was the Guillotina vote, and now Long Con.

Is Made sheeping me?

Not sure why are you asking me this question, I have no answer, I don't think there is anything important here.

Sorry, I didn't really mean it to be a question directed at you. I quoted your post because it made me realize that you, Guillotine and Long Con have been the people I have voted, an interesting coincidence. The question was intended to be more directed to the thread in general, sorry.

No reason to apologise to me, I just responded to your post at face value.

[Made]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

If my reads are correct, this is the third town in a row Made has shaded. First it was me, then it was the Guillotina vote, and now Long Con.

I mean i'm not gonna keep my reads to myself.

Thoughts on Long Con?

My thoughts on Long Con are in my ISO. Didn't you ISO me?

not since that read. I've been ISO hoping.
but noted, ty

[Epignosis]

oh, townlean seanzie. he seems neat

Tell me more! Specifically how neat I am!

But seriously, any reason for the townlean?

I just like the cut of your jib. I can point to specific jibs if you'd like

Yes please!

I think in general jib is Nai.

Are you British?

Yes, I think Vaguely Ohio is somewhere just east of Leicestershire, I'm sure of it.

Current location is not always indicative of where one is from originally.

I was being... how shall I put it... "cheeky."

[Made]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

If my reads are correct, this is the third town in a row Made has shaded. First it was me, then it was the Guillotina vote, and now Long Con.

Is Made sheeping me?

not intentionally... I don't know if people intentionally sheep this early. The whole sheep thing is still kinda weird to me, but it definitely makes mafia less stressful

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Tell me why this is wrong.

[Epignosis]

And I will hear what you have to say tomorrow.

[Made]

[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

I'm not sold on town!Tutuu, but I'm going to trust Nanook and Tutuu for today. Guillotine does not look good to me though, so this seems like a good place for my vote.

I am also setting aside Tutuu and Nook today unless something wild happens tomorrow. What is it about Guillo that looks like mafia or will I find that explanation in your ISO?

I've gotten bad vibes from a lot of Guillotine's posts, but this one really caught my eye:

Hi guys. I told Seanzie yesterday that I would elaborate on my suspicions but I decided I will not. Reason is because I can't explain them with words, I just remember how the players felt as a whole after I interacted with them, so I'm gonna wait before providing solid reads that wolves can use to determine whether or not I'm a NK candidate.

This reads to me like excuses to not get too much information too early. Like, initially he is claiming his reads are unexplainable (which I understand, vibe reads are hard to put into words), but then the last clause of his post really makes me feel like it isn't that they are unexplainable, it is that he is deliberately withholding reads. Which one is it? I feel like if he was town and speaking from a place of truth, it would be one or the other. Maybe I'm wrong, but it is the best lead I have right now.

here's a jib sheep btw. I also didn't like this post either, and the way you reasoned why it's weird feels genuine

[TonyStarkPrime]

I will refer to it as Tutuu's Shift in Playstyle

no that’s me

[TonyStarkPrime]

seanzie town

I'm always town.

False. This statement is incorrect. Lie. False positive. Untruth.

I will call out every single lie and false truth posted by anyone in this thread.

This aggressive post leads to the following:

Question. What kind of bear is best.

Question. What kind of bear is best.

That's a ridiculus question.

False. Black bear.

That's a ridiculus question.

False. Black bear.

Well, that's debatable. There are basically two schools of thought...

Fact.

Bears eat beets.

Bears.

Beets.

Battlestar Galactica.

The rest of it is fine, it's just that one aggressive post mixed in that looks kinda forced. I agree with the scummate interaction theory proposed by Epignosis.

When's the last time you played with tutuu and what was ur alignment? imo the aggression is consistent, the methodology used to get there is not

We just finished 3 games together. I was scum in each one, she was town in two and my teammate in the other. She was aggressive in all of them. My point was that she called sean's post a lie (and many variations thereof), then her next few posts were the complete opposite.

Part of the reason I found it suspicious is that I didn't think tutuu and sean had ever played together before. So having zero familiarity with each other, I had trouble seeing that interaction coming about naturally. But it came to light recently that they had played a game together before, so I've backed off this suspicion a little.

Wait you were also scum in doppel, is that 4 in a row?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m jealous tbh

[TonyStarkPrime]

Calling a vote for MR

[Master Radishes]

Good morning every-

Calling a vote for MR

Oh.

[tutuu]

With risk of tunneling and apologies to TSP in advance if I'm wrong, the posts he's making remind me of the scum game he played in that Russian something something game where he kept distancing and scumreading and interacting with his partners. (His posts towards Made and MR here)

[Master Radishes]

With risk of tunneling and apologies to TSP in advance if I'm wrong, the posts he's making remind me of the scum game he played in that Russian something something game where he kept distancing and scumreading and interacting with his partners. (His posts towards Made and MR here)

As far as I've noticed he's made one serious post directed at me, so you might be tunnelling a bit.

Caveat being I've only skimmed the last few pages and didn't pay attention to TSP when doing so.

[Seanzie]

I'm drunk and I feel like Dizzy and Guillotine are teamed.

[juliets]

ok I read through tutuu's ISO and have a question about the votes for her - is the main reason for the votes that she has tonally shifted in this game from her tone in other games and on discord? Someone, I can't remember who, said that it doesn't really make good sense to open your role card, see you've drawn mafia and made a decision to shift your tone in this game. I tend to agree with that. I haven't ISO'd her voters so maybe I'll find some additional reasons there but feel free to talk to me here about the additional evidence.

Also, I'm not going to do many ISO's tonight because I process much better in the morning and I want to watch the Cleveland v. Pittsburg game. For those who don't know me, I tend to play early in the day and not as much as night.

So I iso'd Tutuu and half way through I caught myself reading all of her post in the voice of Mojo jojo.

Spoiler: show

In of itself that's not alignment indicative, but like in combo with her 180 tone shift from Shadows it's sus

2 mafia down, looking for the last one now.

Can we talk about these two posts? Why did Made and juliets both chime in after long absences and iso tutuu??

Juliets just joined the game tonight how long could her absence have been

All of eternity perhaps.


I guess what I mean is that they both were quite behind on the thread, but they each iso'd tutuu in the process of their catch up. It's a coincidence that I just now recalled.

Marmot, I was not "quite behind" on the thread. I had been reading it for awhile before I came into the game and only had a bit to catch up on. I mentioned this when I subbed in. I started with tutuu's iso because she had 3 votes on her when I came in and I wanted to try and figure out why.

[juliets]

yea made and julie are >rand scum imo

what makes you think this?

[juliets]

I'm starting the day by setting aside (i.e, not considering) these people for a vote today:

tutuu
Nanook
Epi
Dizzy

I don't see that thing we can't talk about as a mafia move by tutuu and it sounds like she's been just as aggressive in other games I have not played.

Nanook is saying tutuu is town and to trust him. I'm leaning toward believing him. It could be TMI but Nook's tone makes me think not.

Epi and Dizzy are great players as town and mafia. I haven't seen anything that makes me think they are mafia yet and they are too good of town players to eliminate this early without evidence that they are bad.

I'll be starting in on some more ISOs after breakfast.

[tutuu]

yea made and julie are >rand scum imo

what makes you think this?

I townread other people who are not Made and juliets.

[juliets]

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

Going back to this then

Guillo, when you come back I would really like your thoughts on this. I know you said you don't want to give them now but I'm hoping you changed your mind. I just don't see anything in your ISO that explains it.

[juliets]

yea made and julie are >rand scum imo

what makes you think this?

I townread other people who are not Made and juliets.

Ok. I am town though and ask that you try and find me as town.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Hally is replacing @snowmelts. Please don't discuss replacement actions. Thank you.

I realize this font is ridiculous, but it amuses me so there.

[Hally]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Note that Hally had been a MoD/facilitator alongside dunya briefly. That has no bearing on the game. Please do not discuss it. Thanks.

[Hally]

sup o/

i was about to go to sleep (yes i know it’s 8am, no i will not be taking questions) but now i wanna play

let’s see if i can lock myself in as the N1 kill before i pass out

[tutuu]

yea made and julie are >rand scum imo

what makes you think this?

I townread other people who are not Made and juliets.

Ok. I am town though and ask that you try and find me as town.

I'm not complacent towards my scumreads, the attempt to convince myself I'm wrong is always there.

[Hally]

page 1 read: epi is probably a villager for his “sean and tutuu are teammates” and “it took sean 11 minutes to respond to this” posts. it seems more forward than i remember epi being that one game he wolfed in

[juliets]

yea made and julie are >rand scum imo

what makes you think this?

I townread other people who are not Made and juliets.

Ok. I am town though and ask that you try and find me as town.

I'm not complacent towards my scumreads, the attempt to convince myself I'm wrong is always there.

Ok thanks for your reply.

Welcome @Hally!

[Hally]

Also HI DIZZY! There's litke 5141 reasons I luv u. Let's roleswap again. <3

(It's nice to see you're town as always, btw.)

nice pocket radishy, dizzy will never see it coming

[Hally]

In SF2 I was super worried about that and backread some of your scum games I could find. So maybe, maybe not. But I feel I can probably recognise your town game enough by now to not be suspicious for the wrong reasons, if that makes sense.

And besides, I never call someone lock town in D1, shield them all game to F5, and end up wrong about them after all. :wowee:

You're probably right. You're also probably town. Pocketing could never exist.

We/Dya got there in the end =p

you’re so easy. you’re also probably town. but radishes is probably not, so get on that please

[Hally]

Okay everyone, Dizzy and I are masons now.

[VOTE: radish] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Note: snowmelts' vote does not count.