Bike [END]

[tutuu]

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

[Hally]

it’s not lc right? i feel like lc is not really being like scum!lc but at the same time i feel like he hasn’t really been moving the game forward or like ~doing things~. i feel like a lot of his posts don’t go anywhere. but i also don’t know if that’s actually scummy for lc

[juliets]

it’s not lc right? i feel like lc is not really being like scum!lc but at the same time i feel like he hasn’t really been moving the game forward or like ~doing things~. i feel like a lot of his posts don’t go anywhere. but i also don’t know if that’s actually scummy for lc

I don't think it's lc because I'm sure it's Epi and their interactions don't appear teammatey to me. But lc is a good slippery player so I'm not 100% about him.

[Hally]

it’s not lc right? i feel like lc is not really being like scum!lc but at the same time i feel like he hasn’t really been moving the game forward or like ~doing things~. i feel like a lot of his posts don’t go anywhere. but i also don’t know if that’s actually scummy for lc

I don't think it's lc because I'm sure it's Epi and their interactions don't appear teammatey to me. But lc is a good slippery player so I'm not 100% about him.

are you claiming a result on epi?

[Hally]

lolme if so but we probably win off that

[Hally]

who can epi even be with?

not marmot

not sean

not lc

not jules

i think just radishes and tutuu? but i would need to double check

[juliets]

it’s not lc right? i feel like lc is not really being like scum!lc but at the same time i feel like he hasn’t really been moving the game forward or like ~doing things~. i feel like a lot of his posts don’t go anywhere. but i also don’t know if that’s actually scummy for lc

I don't think it's lc because I'm sure it's Epi and their interactions don't appear teammatey to me. But lc is a good slippery player so I'm not 100% about him.

are you claiming a result on epi?

Yes I am.

[Hally]

it’s not lc right? i feel like lc is not really being like scum!lc but at the same time i feel like he hasn’t really been moving the game forward or like ~doing things~. i feel like a lot of his posts don’t go anywhere. but i also don’t know if that’s actually scummy for lc

I don't think it's lc because I'm sure it's Epi and their interactions don't appear teammatey to me. But lc is a good slippery player so I'm not 100% about him.

are you claiming a result on epi?

Yes I am.

what specifically? track? cop? and what were your othee results?

[Hally]

or well, if you’re tracker and didn’t track anyone anywhere until tonight you don’t have to out who didn’t visit i don’t think because it could help scum pr hunt

[juliets]

it’s not lc right? i feel like lc is not really being like scum!lc but at the same time i feel like he hasn’t really been moving the game forward or like ~doing things~. i feel like a lot of his posts don’t go anywhere. but i also don’t know if that’s actually scummy for lc

I don't think it's lc because I'm sure it's Epi and their interactions don't appear teammatey to me. But lc is a good slippery player so I'm not 100% about him.

are you claiming a result on epi?

Yes I am.

what specifically? track? cop? and what were your othee results?

I am a 1-shot cop and that was my one shot.

[Hally]

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

welp, i can’t read epi lol

[Hally]

i think the last scum can only be tutuu or radishes off the top of my head but i expect to be chopped now tbh

[Epignosis]

But I am a

[Hally]

yea, sean clearly spewed town and i’m like five posts in

[Hally]

lc probably spewed town too

[juliets]

lc probably spewed town too

yeah I need to read back through him but what I remember is he was nipping at Epi's heels all along.

[Hally]

marmot also town

[Hally]

i see nothing that looks like it spews tutuu or radishes town

epi votes radishes occasionally but never pushes there and always has someone else he wants to push first

his talk about tutuu is limited to pairing her with seanzie early on but he clearly seems to prefer pushing seanzie despite tutuu having more heat on her D1

it’s either one of those or one of lc/marmot has been distancing well. but i think that’s less likely and we won’t get there anyway so w/e

[Hally]

i think we should chop radishes next

then if he’s town people will have to decide who to chop between me and tutuu in F3 and i suspect it will be me

but hopefully radishes just isn’t town lol

[tutuu]

hm. the mafia pr ought to be good coz i think 1-shot cop and 1-shot vig are really really strong. if its not great i think the setup should have like 70% town win rate

[juliets]

i think we should chop radishes next

then if he’s town people will have to decide who to chop between me and tutuu in F3 and i suspect it will be me

but hopefully radishes just isn’t town lol

I will look hard at radishes tomorrow.

[Hally]

iso’d radishes and he can be w/w with epi

tutuu next

[Hally]

tutuu is also compatible with epi

[tutuu]

i might not have a lot of non w/w interactions with epi but i'd say my interactions with made look pretty good on me, how'd that suddenly stop being a factor?

[Seanzie]

it’s not lc right? i feel like lc is not really being like scum!lc but at the same time i feel like he hasn’t really been moving the game forward or like ~doing things~. i feel like a lot of his posts don’t go anywhere. but i also don’t know if that’s actually scummy for lc

I don't think it's lc because I'm sure it's Epi and their interactions don't appear teammatey to me. But lc is a good slippery player so I'm not 100% about him.

are you claiming a result on epi?

Yes I am.

what specifically? track? cop? and what were your othee results?

I am a 1-shot cop and that was my one shot.

Ha! I knew it! (that Epi was scum, not that you were a 1-shot cop :P) Woot!

[Hally]

radishes/tutuu

we have two chops to get it right and i have two people in my poe. but that means i cannot afford to be mislimed or else we can’t chop both. and people will probably always vote me over tutuu in a potential F3. so that’s sad

[tutuu]

radishes/tutuu

we have two chops to get it right and i have two people in my poe. but that means i cannot afford to be mislimed or else we can’t chop both. and people will probably always vote me over tutuu in a potential F3. so that’s sad

what prevents us from both being town if MR is town

if MR is town and we sleep in mylo why do u think one of us couldn't be the NK

[Hally]

i might not have a lot of non w/w interactions with epi but i'd say my interactions with made look pretty good on me, how'd that suddenly stop being a factor?

it didn’t stop being a factor. that’s why i think we go radishes first

the thing is, made was bussable. epi is much less bussable

i also feel like you’ve fallen off a lot since D1 but have been trying to hold myself back from tinfoiling you because i just wanted the wolves to resolve you for me. but that doesn’t seem like it will happen anymore so

[Hally]

radishes/tutuu

we have two chops to get it right and i have two people in my poe. but that means i cannot afford to be mislimed or else we can’t chop both. and people will probably always vote me over tutuu in a potential F3. so that’s sad

what prevents us from both being town if MR is town

if MR is town and we sleep in mylo why do u think one of us couldn't be the NK

1) my belief that no one else except you and radishes look compatible with epi. you’re welcome to check for yourself though

2) jules will obviously be one nk. i suspect sean will be another because he’s the clearest person off epi. and i don’t think either of us dies over marmot/lc because they’re less compatible with epi than either of us

[Long Con]

Hey. great job Jules! [VOTE: Epi] aubergine Good night, sweet prince...

[Hally]

tutuu why are you more concerned with finding yourself in my poe than solving off the now redchecked scum? you don’t seem very pumped

[Hally]

i expect town!you to be excited here and immediately start poe’ing down who the final wolf is, not go “why am i in the poe now remember i pushed made”

[Long Con]

I want to recheck Marmot. I don't think he is all that clear of being and Epi and Made teammte.

[tutuu]

tutuu why are you more concerned with finding yourself in my poe than solving off the now redchecked scum? you don’t seem very pumped

coz its 3 am and why would i be pumped, i voted epi before the check was announced and i expected him and MR to be mafia

[tutuu]

i expect town!you to be excited here and immediately start poe’ing down who the final wolf is, not go “why am i in the poe now remember i pushed made”

i dont have a town game in which i havent been accused of falling off and not being excited enough

all the way from space invaders last year

[tutuu]

(i did not fall off in my scum game, when i desire to make sure my manipulations go through they will go through)

[Long Con]

Not Epi-related, but this post is dripping with fake anti-TMI, whatever that's called.

We only have 1 more mischop left before MyLo

I know there are probably 2 mafia left, but does it say somewhere that there are 3 mafia?

[Hally]

tutuu why are you more concerned with finding yourself in my poe than solving off the now redchecked scum? you don’t seem very pumped

coz its 3 am and why would i be pumped, i voted epi before the check was announced and i expected him and MR to be mafia

it was pretty obvious to me jules was softing something even in her first post at SoD. then she voted epi in her next post. i know you can put two and two together if you’re a wolf and get out ahead of the check because i saw it and i don’t even have tmi

[tutuu]

tutuu why are you more concerned with finding yourself in my poe than solving off the now redchecked scum? you don’t seem very pumped

coz its 3 am and why would i be pumped, i voted epi before the check was announced and i expected him and MR to be mafia

it was pretty obvious to me jules was softing something even in her first post at SoD. then she voted epi in her next post. i know you can put two and two together if you’re a wolf and get out ahead of the check because i saw it and i don’t even have tmi

i was saying it has to be epi and marmot during the night phase before jules's soft which i dont see how it was a soft

[tutuu]

epi and mr

[Hally]

i expect town!you to be excited here and immediately start poe’ing down who the final wolf is, not go “why am i in the poe now remember i pushed made”

i dont have a town game in which i havent been accused of falling off and not being excited enough

all the way from space invaders last year

okay, well i’m voting radishes next day. if it’s not radishes we will have to talk more though

[Long Con]

15 minutes before the yeet of town-Martin goes through. Felt Martin was town, but practically yawned about doing something about it.

Martin also feels very townie to me after returning to the thread.

But we've done a lot of work to get to this point, and flash-wagoning anyone other than Radish doesn't make sense.

[Hally]

i think we have to chop radishes today

i don’t know what else to do

Maybe. I have an idea too but I'm in the middle of a game right now.

this pretty clearly seemed like a soft to me

[Long Con]

"If Martin is scum..." I'm going back in time in his ISO, I hope there is more Epi suspicion than this conditional and defunct suspicion.

If Martin is scum, I do think Epi is a reasonable partner for a couple other reasons.

1) Martin vote for me early Day 2. He didn't explain why, but later admitted that he sheeped Epignosis thinking Epi had a good reason, and not realizing Epi was OMGUS voting. That's how I interpreted this anyway. I could see this coming about because Epi said in chat that he could mischop me today. Martin could just be sheeping the townplayer who did a bunch of ISO's last night, not realizing that the player with a bunch of reasons to vote a bunch of people actually made an unreasonable vote. I think it's the former, but am willing to be convinced otherwise.

2) I explained to Martin why I thought Epi was teammate-compatible with Made and asked his opinion. Rather than answer my question, he responded by telling me I could make a better argument for juliets being Made's partner. This post looks like a deflection.

[Hally]

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Me too -
[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

it was then followed up by this

to my eyes this was pretty clearly jules being cryptic and softing something on epi because she usually explains everything more if it’s just a normal vote

[tutuu]

idk if someone can clearly be cryptic, but, gratz

[Hally]

Spoiler: show

Question. What kind of bear is best.

A polar bear, but only bearly

What is your opinion of Seanzie?

I do not have opinions. I operate on a binary model where I only discern truths from falses. And since I am a member of the Town, I shall only state facts. Seanzie is a member of the Town.

Okay ms tutuu, riddle me this:

This statement is false.

where's the lie? WHERE IS THE LIE?

The lie is in your request. You know that the statement is a paradox with no correct answer, ergo, requesting of me to find the lie in something you know has no lies is a faulty and disgenuine command.

or a turing test

linki: I've played with dunya a few times before i disappeared. I also know to fear Epi. We lylo'd in the first vocoroo mafia. It basically ended in rap battle...that I lost

I'm pretty sure it was my progressive rock number that did you in.

I have decided that Made is Town-aligned.

And what drove this decision?

Okay ms tutuu, riddle me this:

This statement is false.

where's the lie? WHERE IS THE LIE?

The lie is in your request. You know that the statement is a paradox with no correct answer, ergo, requesting of me to find the lie in something you know has no lies is a faulty and disgenuine command.

or a turing test

linki: I've played with dunya a few times before i disappeared. I also know to fear Epi. We lylo'd in the first vocoroo mafia. It basically ended in rap battle...that I lost

I'm pretty sure it was my progressive rock number that did you in.

prog rock is just for math rock for the WEAK

I don't know how to respond to this.

@Epignosis, what are your thoughts on Guillotine?

I know I told you I'd tell you my thoughts on Guillotine, but I decided I will not.

No, I'm still cogitating on the existence of that post, including the followup in which Guillotine asks Made for an explanation ( ).

Rather than look at the refusal to elaborate, I want to highlight something else:

Hi guys. I told Seanzie yesterday that I would elaborate on my suspicions but I decided I will not. Reason is because I can't explain them with words, I just remember how the players felt as a whole after I interacted with them, so I'm gonna wait before providing solid reads that wolves can use to determine whether or not I'm a NK candidate.

This seems like an over-explanation. The first reasoning is "I can't explain them with words." The blue adds to the excuse unnecessarily.

ok I read through tutuu's ISO and have a question about the votes for her - is the main reason for the votes that she has tonally shifted in this game from her tone in other games and on discord? Someone, I can't remember who, said that it doesn't really make good sense to open your role card, see you've drawn mafia and made a decision to shift your tone in this game. I tend to agree with that. I haven't ISO'd her voters so maybe I'll find some additional reasons there but feel free to talk to me here about the additional evidence.

Also, I'm not going to do many ISO's tonight because I process much better in the morning and I want to watch the Cleveland v. Pittsburg game. For those who don't know me, I tend to play early in the day and not as much as night.

So I iso'd Tutuu and half way through I caught myself reading all of her post in the voice of Mojo jojo.

Spoiler: show

In of itself that's not alignment indicative, but like in combo with her 180 tone shift from Shadows it's sus

2 mafia down, looking for the last one now.

Can we talk about these two posts? Why did Made and juliets both chime in after long absences and iso tutuu??

Juliets just joined the game tonight how long could her absence have been

All of eternity perhaps.


I guess what I mean is that they both were quite behind on the thread, but they each iso'd tutuu in the process of their catch up. It's a coincidence that I just now recalled.

I'd say you answered your own question.

oh, townlean seanzie. he seems neat

Tell me more! Specifically how neat I am!

But seriously, any reason for the townlean?

I just like the cut of your jib. I can point to specific jibs if you'd like

Yes please!

I think in general jib is Nai.

Are you British?

Yes, I think Vaguely Ohio is somewhere just east of Leicestershire, I'm sure of it.

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Tell me why this is wrong.

I'm reconsidering my townread of Epignosis. Above is every interaction he had with Made. Most of these are off topic or fluffy. In one post he did ask tutuu why she townread Made. Thats's the closest to talking about him in the context of this game that Epignosis gets. This isn't how I'd expect Epignosis to handle a teammate, but it's not how I'd expect him to handle Made as town either if I think about it. I think I'd expect more probing and at least one question directed at Made or a post as to why he thinks Made's scum. Epignosis aside, I think these interactions are teammate compatible.

Then he votes for Made.

At least with the other votes that Epi made throughout the day that look like serious votes, he explained reasons for them. I suppose it's possible Epignosis wasn't serious? Then again, his first post after the flip was "It's better to be lucky than good". I don't think he'd call himself lucky if the vote was a joke, he'd admit it was a joke.

@Epignosis What did you mean by "Tell me why this is wrong" in that vote post?

this doesn’t seem partner-y to me

[Hally]

marmot is town

he’s different from the scum games i looked at and he’s not with epi

[Hally]

iso’d lc. town

[Hally]

it’s probably just radishes