Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Long Con]

JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town

@Long Con

Does this feel like a realistic response from someone who asked for a push and read my ISO in response?

I don't want to get all political about it, but I don't agree with his assessment. You had original thoughts and a progression on nutella in there.

[Timsup2nothin]

I think Thunal is the only town player in the game

So you’re claiming not to be town. Understood!

How does him town reading Thunal automatically make him a wolf?

You missed a really obvious joke. Who are you, and what have you done with Mac?

This is not a drill

Spoiler: show

The entity posing as Mac has already claimed to be using 'Mac's rational brain.' I have opted to let this pass in hopes that they will just return Mac unharmed after whatever diabolical alien probing he is enduring.

[tutuu]

in no particular order, here are the players in the game:


Kylemii
Timsup2nothin
MacDougall
Dyslexicon
sig
nutella
Cat
Long Con
Michelle
Thunal33
Marmot
JackofHearts2005
Master Radishes
Hyena
Sloonei
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
TurnipHead
Made
JustPlayingitcool
DrWilgy
MartinGG99
TonyStarkPrime
falcon45ca
tutuu
Alison
Syn
112

wait what

this is not at all random and this is fully intentional

u are softing something here

[tutuu]

solved the game

Oh come on.

1. spam thread
2. get townread
3. become mafia legend

[nutella]

I think Thunal is the only town player in the game

She certainly appears as the voice of reason at several points in an otherwise chaotic gamestate. Sloonei to some extent too. Sloonei keeps coming across like a dad trying to help his child with homework he himself doesn't know how to do.

this is the best description of sloonei ive ever seen

[falcon45ca]

in no particular order, here are the players in the game:


Kylemii
Timsup2nothin
MacDougall
Dyslexicon
sig
nutella
Cat
Long Con
Michelle
Thunal33
Marmot
JackofHearts2005
Master Radishes
Hyena
Sloonei
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
TurnipHead
Made
JustPlayingitcool
DrWilgy
MartinGG99
TonyStarkPrime
falcon45ca
tutuu
Alison
Syn
112

wait what

this is not at all random and this is fully intentional

u are softing something here

Her town to wolf list, inverted?

[Long Con]

solved the game

Oh come on.

1. spam thread
2. get townread
3. become mafia legend

Ugh, that's so Type A though.

[112]

Town:
112
Master Radishes
Sloonei
JustPlayingitcool
tutuu
nutella

Town lean:
Timsup2nothin
Michelle
Thunal33
Hyena
falcon45ca
Syn

Null/neutral:
MacDougall
Marmot
dyachei
JackofHearts2005
DrWilgy
MartinGG99

>rand scum:
Kylemii
Dyslexicon
Cat
Long Con
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Made

Are they playing?:
TonyStarkPrime
TurnipHead

3p:
Alison

[Marmot]

I want to do dmt with Tutu and be catboys with Scirrus.

Like any good mother would.

DMT = Do my taxes?

[112]

in no particular order, here are the players in the game:


Kylemii
Timsup2nothin
MacDougall
Dyslexicon
sig
nutella
Cat
Long Con
Michelle
Thunal33
Marmot
JackofHearts2005
Master Radishes
Hyena
Sloonei
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
TurnipHead
Made
JustPlayingitcool
DrWilgy
MartinGG99
TonyStarkPrime
falcon45ca
tutuu
Alison
Syn
112

wait what

this is not at all random and this is fully intentional

u are softing something here

I literally put it through random.org lmao

no soft

[falcon45ca]

I want to do dmt with Tutu and be catboys with Scirrus.

Like any good mother would.

DMT = Do my taxes?

Dude.


I do not want to do my taxes on DMT.


Heck no plz

[Marmot]

@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?

I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.


BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day

I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.

The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.

1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.


You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.

I think you are worrying too much about my ego and not enough about the fact there is a testable hypothesis here. Anyone in the game is free to read my ISO and see if after five? six? minutes that are comfortable with "surface level, 60% scum." If a bunch of people devote six minutes and come back saying "yeah, sure, Falcon probably did that" then great...I move on, no harm no foul.

So encourage them.

Okie dokie @Marmot @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @tutuu @Syn @Hyena @Long Con @DrWilgy

Y'all wanna give it a go?

I'm uncertain of what's being asked of me here.

[MacDougall]

Deux

The progressions. Like lines in the sand ever so unparalleled. Always destined to cross paths and to arrive at their final destinations. Written in the stars like death.

i should probably say something less fluffy. my iso is probably awful rn

You shouldn't. If you don't want to, no one is forcing you.
Shows a mindset of producing empty content.
[VOTE: Made] aubergine

It is, not that big of a deal for them to jump on Made for this straight away. But...

Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Sloonei i don't understand your question at all. Can you answer it first?

Cat has given the game away immediately. Indeed by saying this they reveal their true intent, which is to indeed not stay there.

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Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Sloonei i don't understand your question at all. Can you answer it first?

Have we played together before? If not, hiya! Nice to meet you

Not that i remember. Heya, nice to meet you too.
[/quote]

Hello fellow stranger, how do you do?

Every time I see Made post I just been like look at dat wolf. There is very little by way of solving. He hasn't had any spicy pushes that I saw. He keeps doing wolfy popins where he just comments half the time on NAI concerns then skeets off back to wolf chat.

Sounds more like low-effort than scum to me.

Pause the tape right here. Do you see that? You see the emoji? Yeah. You see the emoji.

Important to note, that Made had a fair wagon comp at this point.

So, it's kinda early in the day considering we still have about 48 hours left in the day, but I feel like this is a good time to say this:

I am a PR who can probably easily confirm myself. :P I'll go into more details if you guys want, but what I'm saying is that I'm probably not a good place to go as far as a d1 yeet (or any day yeet) goes.

Boooo.
How does your claim confirm you anyway? You talk to dead people. No one can prove or disprove it.

yo, how does town normally win multiball set ups?

like when town wins is it normaly just mafia dogging it out and town surviving or Towncore flanking both sides? what's the trick here? Ofc town always needs to baddie hunt or w/e but so do the wolves. What does town need to do that scum doesn't?

Town wins by doing nothing.

is omgus typically a town thing or a mafia thing? if it's a mafia thing, it's something that wouldn't be effected too much by the whole 2 teams dynamics, which makes it a really reliable way to scum hunt compared to finding people scum based on their reads. Shitty reads probably isn't the way to find scum until we think we've hit a pair

nai

lame

Why did you intentionally play scummy?

Trying to increase my town range

This is so dumb i kinda believe it.
[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Hmmm were it not for the groundswell of momentum towards this outcome I would be inclined to believe it and see it as towny indeed! Wily. Sadly, not wily enough. Now, let's reverse tac, and see how they arrived at this point where lines indeed crossed over and Made became Nutella.

nutella is wolfin'

Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.

Unlike Made, Cat in fact began with somewhat of a defense of Nutella. Similar levels of vitriol towards Syn as was shown initially towards Made.

Those last few posts from Nutella super sus.

i want to townread this post too wtf i should stop. i dont think im doing this right. surely at least 1 wolf has posted by now

Towny. And yes those posts were sus. Nutella both acknowledges what's going on bringing attention to but kind of brushes it under the rug at the same time.

Trimmed from the very same wall in which he quoted my post to start inverting his Made read we have this borrowing of Jack's nutella argument.

My issue with Nutella here is that I've had basically no content as is normal for me, and yet somehow she's giving a pass to other posters with similar reps (Nanook, Wilgy, et al) and apparently can't formulate any better reads on people with far more content. I am her *only* wolf read, and all I've done is shitpost as usual. My one bit of content, at a stretch, is a mild and brief back and forth with falcon where I felt he was being hedgey and forcing a push on me (and I stand by that, though I don't know it's AI for him) and that's apaprently enough to have her decide I am not only a wolf but her *only* wolf so far.

It's an opportunistic nudge and she's not disguising it well enough.

Fun post. I like it.

So fun that he cites it later as his reason for sheeping. Perhaps more fun because it's more content for him to justify his ultimate goal of moving his vote off of his teammate Made and onto Nutella (which he was trying to make look random the entire time).

@cat what is your point in making note of my post count?

I personally don't remember pretty much anything you've done. And you have a lot of posts.
So i thought it would be funny to point it out since you are doing the same thing.

I don't think Syn would keep pushing Nute if he was wolfing, so there's that

I don't understand the logic, please elaborate

nute's obvtown

Why? Can you explain their meta? I'd say nutella is uncomfortable in the thread.

Pushes back when someone calls her Obvtown, asks for elaboration on it. But...

So, it's kinda early in the day considering we still have about 48 hours left in the day, but I feel like this is a good time to say this:

I am a PR who can probably easily confirm myself. :P I'll go into more details if you guys want, but what I'm saying is that I'm probably not a good place to go as far as a d1 yeet (or any day yeet) goes.

Boooo.
How does your claim confirm you anyway? You talk to dead people. No one can prove or disprove it.

yo, how does town normally win multiball set ups?

like when town wins is it normaly just mafia dogging it out and town surviving or Towncore flanking both sides? what's the trick here? Ofc town always needs to baddie hunt or w/e but so do the wolves. What does town need to do that scum doesn't?

Town wins by doing nothing.

Trying to increase my town range

This is so dumb i kinda believe it.
[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

He arrived there anyway.

Rather than what a town, particularly a 26 posting town "struggling to keep up" because of the memery would do, Cat picked and pawed their way to a desired outcome right from the start. This is why not only is Cat mafia, but Made is the teammate.

[Timsup2nothin]

See Tim? Your ISO is so boring that 2 players have already said no

As I pointed out before, most people hate reading my ISO. That was part of why I doubted that you had really followed through on the "push me, give me three people to ISO" thing. And as Long Con points out, the "no depth" interpretation is totally specious. "Push me, give me three ISOs to do" is a statement just wreathed in "look how towny I am"...but if you then don't actually do the ISOs it turns into "look at me trying to look towny." Town people don't have to try to look towny, hence I just don't think you are a town people. You were under some pressure and you tried to build some easy cred, is my impression.

[MacDougall]

Feline Vivisection - In Three Parts
Un.

Cats, nature's greatest mistake. Yet humanity has revered and worshipped them for millennia.

Why? They are such obvious villains.

And the feline in our midst is no different.

The reason I suspected Cat initially was a post they made defending Made from a Mac prod. It immediately gave me the impression of a nervous protection of a teammate. It was not long after that that they dropped a scummy vote on Nutella. This morning I followed up on it. I went and checked their full progression on Made and became convinced Cat was mafia. I also found the interactions between the two of them teammate indicative, given their timing; with Made reacting to Cat with the old "oh hai have we met" stereotype and Cat sort of soft batting it, while they were otherwise at odds with one another (don't quote this wall and pick this point out to argue with because yes it's weak and maybe NAI).

At present, the main concern I have is their progression from RVS through to unvoting Made feeling too constructed. Lacking the random energy of town and being too mindful of not appearing "scummy". As you'll see I have picked that up with Cat with two separate pushes. This one, and also their rising anti-Nutella sentiment having the same over-constructed approach.

When you add their relatively low content volume, the relative incisiveness of their perspectives vs. their volume and the lack (until now) of any real push against them. I do believe you have a mafia.

Tbc.

Deux

The progressions. Like lines in the sand ever so unparalleled. Always destined to cross paths and to arrive at their final destinations. Written in the stars like death.

i should probably say something less fluffy. my iso is probably awful rn

You shouldn't. If you don't want to, no one is forcing you.
Shows a mindset of producing empty content.
[VOTE: Made] aubergine

It is, not that big of a deal for them to jump on Made for this straight away. But...

Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Sloonei i don't understand your question at all. Can you answer it first?

Cat has given the game away immediately. Indeed by saying this they reveal their true intent, which is to indeed not stay there.

de post_id=721122 time=1613024778 user_id=302]

Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Sloonei i don't understand your question at all. Can you answer it first?

Have we played together before? If not, hiya! Nice to meet you

Not that i remember. Heya, nice to meet you too.

Hello fellow stranger, how do you do?

Every time I see Made post I just been like look at dat wolf. There is very little by way of solving. He hasn't had any spicy pushes that I saw. He keeps doing wolfy popins where he just comments half the time on NAI concerns then skeets off back to wolf chat.

Sounds more like low-effort than scum to me.

Pause the tape right here. Do you see that? You see the emoji? Yeah. You see the emoji.

Important to note, that Made had a fair wagon comp at this point.

So, it's kinda early in the day considering we still have about 48 hours left in the day, but I feel like this is a good time to say this:

I am a PR who can probably easily confirm myself. :P I'll go into more details if you guys want, but what I'm saying is that I'm probably not a good place to go as far as a d1 yeet (or any day yeet) goes.

Boooo.
How does your claim confirm you anyway? You talk to dead people. No one can prove or disprove it.

yo, how does town normally win multiball set ups?

like when town wins is it normaly just mafia dogging it out and town surviving or Towncore flanking both sides? what's the trick here? Ofc town always needs to baddie hunt or w/e but so do the wolves. What does town need to do that scum doesn't?

Town wins by doing nothing.

is omgus typically a town thing or a mafia thing? if it's a mafia thing, it's something that wouldn't be effected too much by the whole 2 teams dynamics, which makes it a really reliable way to scum hunt compared to finding people scum based on their reads. Shitty reads probably isn't the way to find scum until we think we've hit a pair

nai

lame

Why did you intentionally play scummy?

Trying to increase my town range

This is so dumb i kinda believe it.
[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Hmmm were it not for the groundswell of momentum towards this outcome I would be inclined to believe it and see it as towny indeed! Wily. Sadly, not wily enough. Now, let's reverse tac, and see how they arrived at this point where lines indeed crossed over and Made became Nutella.

nutella is wolfin'

Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.

Unlike Made, Cat in fact began with somewhat of a defense of Nutella. Similar levels of vitriol towards Syn as was shown initially towards Made.

Those last few posts from Nutella super sus.

i want to townread this post too wtf i should stop. i dont think im doing this right. surely at least 1 wolf has posted by now

Towny. And yes those posts were sus. Nutella both acknowledges what's going on bringing attention to but kind of brushes it under the rug at the same time.

Trimmed from the very same wall in which he quoted my post to start inverting his Made read we have this borrowing of Jack's nutella argument.

My issue with Nutella here is that I've had basically no content as is normal for me, and yet somehow she's giving a pass to other posters with similar reps (Nanook, Wilgy, et al) and apparently can't formulate any better reads on people with far more content. I am her *only* wolf read, and all I've done is shitpost as usual. My one bit of content, at a stretch, is a mild and brief back and forth with falcon where I felt he was being hedgey and forcing a push on me (and I stand by that, though I don't know it's AI for him) and that's apaprently enough to have her decide I am not only a wolf but her *only* wolf so far.

It's an opportunistic nudge and she's not disguising it well enough.

Fun post. I like it.

So fun that he cites it later as his reason for sheeping. Perhaps more fun because it's more content for him to justify his ultimate goal of moving his vote off of his teammate Made and onto Nutella (which he was trying to make look random the entire time).

@cat what is your point in making note of my post count?

I personally don't remember pretty much anything you've done. And you have a lot of posts.
So i thought it would be funny to point it out since you are doing the same thing.

I don't think Syn would keep pushing Nute if he was wolfing, so there's that

I don't understand the logic, please elaborate

nute's obvtown

Why? Can you explain their meta? I'd say nutella is uncomfortable in the thread.

Pushes back when someone calls her Obvtown, asks for elaboration on it. But...

So, it's kinda early in the day considering we still have about 48 hours left in the day, but I feel like this is a good time to say this:

I am a PR who can probably easily confirm myself. :P I'll go into more details if you guys want, but what I'm saying is that I'm probably not a good place to go as far as a d1 yeet (or any day yeet) goes.

Boooo.
How does your claim confirm you anyway? You talk to dead people. No one can prove or disprove it.

yo, how does town normally win multiball set ups?

like when town wins is it normaly just mafia dogging it out and town surviving or Towncore flanking both sides? what's the trick here? Ofc town always needs to baddie hunt or w/e but so do the wolves. What does town need to do that scum doesn't?

Town wins by doing nothing.

Trying to increase my town range

This is so dumb i kinda believe it.
[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

He arrived there anyway.

Rather than what a town, particularly a 26 posting town "struggling to keep up" because of the memery would do, Cat picked and pawed their way to a desired outcome right from the start. This is why not only is Cat mafia, but Made is the teammate.
[/quote]

Now go my friends. Exsanguinate the feline and drink the blood from thine loins. Then do the same to Made afterwards.

[Marmot]

I want to do dmt with Tutu and be catboys with Scirrus.

Like any good mother would.

DMT = Do my taxes?

Dude.


I do not want to do my taxes on DMT.


Heck no plz

I understand now

Marmot suddenly realizing what tutuu has fed him




I... I'm gonna go now...

[tutuu]

I want to do dmt with Tutu and be catboys with Scirrus.

Like any good mother would.

DMT = Do my taxes?

Dude.


I do not want to do my taxes on DMT.


Heck no plz

I understand now

Marmot suddenly realizing what tutuu has fed him




I... I'm gonna go now...

nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh!!

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?

I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.


BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day

I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.

The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.

1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.


You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.

I think you are worrying too much about my ego and not enough about the fact there is a testable hypothesis here. Anyone in the game is free to read my ISO and see if after five? six? minutes that are comfortable with "surface level, 60% scum." If a bunch of people devote six minutes and come back saying "yeah, sure, Falcon probably did that" then great...I move on, no harm no foul.

So encourage them.

Okie dokie @Marmot @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @tutuu @Syn @Hyena @Long Con @DrWilgy

Y'all wanna give it a go?

I'm uncertain of what's being asked of me here.

Anyone in the game is free to read my ISO and see if after five? six? minutes that are comfortable with "surface level, 60% scum." If a bunch of people devote six minutes and come back saying "yeah, sure, Falcon probably did that" then great...I move on, no harm no foul.



I don't really know. TBH, I don't really care at this point.


I am town, and breadcrumbed info about my rolecard. Take it for what it's worth

[tutuu]

man that 112 list was absolutely a soft

she has no reason to bother RNG.org the playerlist and submit it if she is going to post her reads right after that

like she can just copy paste the playerlist from the OP, randomizing the order is unnecessary

i probably shouldnt continually pressure this but i ... i believe that was some sort of bread crumb / soft claim tied to her role, and i think its most likely towny to leave hints like that so moving 112 to dark green town everyone pls unvote her

MR LC plz unvote 112 she town shes with me

[tutuu]

I am town, and breadcrumbed info about my rolecard. Take it for what it's worth

man u too

i aint dealin with this i going to bed

[MacDougall]

I know y'all don't care but I just posted the most beautiful destruction of cat and made.

[falcon45ca]

See Tim? Your ISO is so boring that 2 players have already said no

As I pointed out before, most people hate reading my ISO. That was part of why I doubted that you had really followed through on the "push me, give me three people to ISO" thing. And as Long Con points out, the "no depth" interpretation is totally specious. "Push me, give me three ISOs to do" is a statement just wreathed in "look how towny I am"...but if you then don't actually do the ISOs it turns into "look at me trying to look towny." Town people don't have to try to look towny, hence I just don't think you are a town people. You were under some pressure and you tried to build some easy cred, is my impression.

[Timsup2nothin]

I am town, and breadcrumbed info about my rolecard. Take it for what it's worth

man u too

i aint dealin with this i going to bed

Yeah, this is gonna be one of those games where we just cycle through wagoning people until they say "I have a PR don't chop me" and moving on to the next one. Eventually we get to someone who says "fuck this, go ahead, I'm vanilla, let me out of here."

Wake me up when we get there.

[Dyslexicon]

The moment you realized you read ISOs from end to beginning instead.

[Hyena]

I would go after them just to see what happens!

But why for that specifically, if the end goal is just to see what happens?

Sounds like bullshit to me tbh.

I like pretending there's a reason I'm pushing someone so that it's more believable. <3

Which is, yeah, just a longer way of saying that it's bullshit. :P Still though!

Hyena: I could go after 112 for this specific thing that I also did!
Me: Why?
Hyena: Just to see what happens!

Villagers are the biggest hypocrites! ... @Sloonei Did I say it right? o:

[falcon45ca]

I am town, and breadcrumbed info about my rolecard. Take it for what it's worth

man u too

i aint dealin with this i going to bed

[Hyena]

@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?

I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.


BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day

I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.

The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.

1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.


You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.

I think you are worrying too much about my ego and not enough about the fact there is a testable hypothesis here. Anyone in the game is free to read my ISO and see if after five? six? minutes that are comfortable with "surface level, 60% scum." If a bunch of people devote six minutes and come back saying "yeah, sure, Falcon probably did that" then great...I move on, no harm no foul.

So encourage them.

Okie dokie @Marmot @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @tutuu @Syn @Hyena @Long Con @DrWilgy

Y'all wanna give it a go?

Wait, who or what are we doing now? o:

[Timsup2nothin]

I know y'all don't care but I just posted the most beautiful destruction of cat and made.

I care. If I poster that I'd be eating the usual shit about narratives and pre-flip associations and yadda yadda yadda...but you posted it so...sure, Cat and Made are w/w and we should expect them both to claim PRs just kill them.

[falcon45ca]

I am town, and breadcrumbed info about my rolecard. Take it for what it's worth

man u too

i aint dealin with this i going to bed

Yeah, this is gonna be one of those games where we just cycle through wagoning people until they say "I have a PR don't chop me" and moving on to the next one. Eventually we get to someone who says "fuck this, go ahead, I'm vanilla, let me out of here."

Wake me up when we get there.

"fuck this, go ahead, I'm vanilla, let me out of here."

[Dyslexicon]

I like pretending there's a reason I'm pushing someone so that it's more believable. <3

Which is, yeah, just a longer way of saying that it's bullshit. :P Still though!

Villagers are the biggest hypocrites! ... @Sloonei Did I say it right? o:

Alright. I can relate tbh.

Still. HMMMMMMMMM

[MacDougall]

I know y'all don't care but I just posted the most beautiful destruction of cat and made.

I care. If I poster that I'd be eating the usual shit about narratives and pre-flip associations and yadda yadda yadda...but you posted it so...sure, Cat and Made are w/w and we should expect them both to claim PRs just kill them.

Well the thing is that Cat and Made are both mafia independently of each other anyway so the fact that the way Cat dealt with Made and their interactions look teammate indicative is just icing.

[Hyena]

@falcon45ca Are you asking me to ISO Tim? o:

[Hyena]

Well, I'm gonna do it anyway now since I'm not doing anything else at the moment.

[Timsup2nothin]

@falcon45ca Are you asking me to ISO Tim? o:

It's me asking really...I'm testing his claim that he read my ISO in five or six minutes and came back with the result he came back with.

[Hyena]

a few off-topic posts for Tim is NAGL

Grasping at straws I see.

no, just want to give you a hard time while you enter the thread

Oh.

Why people calling you scum already?

This is a w/w interaction.

[nutella]

@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?

I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.


BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day

I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.

The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.

1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.


You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.

I think you are worrying too much about my ego and not enough about the fact there is a testable hypothesis here. Anyone in the game is free to read my ISO and see if after five? six? minutes that are comfortable with "surface level, 60% scum." If a bunch of people devote six minutes and come back saying "yeah, sure, Falcon probably did that" then great...I move on, no harm no foul.

So encourage them.

Ngl I hardly ever spend more than five or ten minutes skimming an iso if I'm looking for holistic patterns. I think this line of questioning is unproductive. Falcon may be scum and sure it's possible he faked or exaggerated a quick conclusion but I don't think it's totally unreasonable a townie could do something similar.

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca Are you asking me to ISO Tim? o:

Meh. Honestly,

[Hyena]

Grasping at straws I see.

no, just want to give you a hard time while you enter the thread

Oh.

Why people calling you scum already?

idk

Probably just wanting to give you a hard time while you enter the thread.

and there's nothing wrong with that

you're running an aggressive defensive line tonight. any comment?

I was shooting for dry wit.

More w/w! I dunno why 112 finds anything Tim is saying here aggressively defensive. Tim seems to go along with it though? Feels kinda rehearsed.

[Hyena]

As for playing some mafia...it's day zero man...consider yourself lucky I am even skimming here. My interest in day zeros is mathematically appropriate compared to my minimal interest in day ones.

Well you know me, I always have to go try hard right from the get go.

Who are you, and what have you done with Radish?

Tim and Radish not w/w.

[Hyena]

Have I hit 10 minutes yet?

[Timsup2nothin]

@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?

I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.


BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day

I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.

The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.

1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.


You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.

I think you are worrying too much about my ego and not enough about the fact there is a testable hypothesis here. Anyone in the game is free to read my ISO and see if after five? six? minutes that are comfortable with "surface level, 60% scum." If a bunch of people devote six minutes and come back saying "yeah, sure, Falcon probably did that" then great...I move on, no harm no foul.

So encourage them.

Ngl I hardly ever spend more than five or ten minutes skimming an iso if I'm looking for holistic patterns. I think this line of questioning is unproductive. Falcon may be scum and sure it's possible he faked or exaggerated a quick conclusion but I don't think it's totally unreasonable a townie could do something similar.

I won't say that a townie can't or wouldn't, but the circumstances of "push me, give me three ISOs to read" followed by "here's three totally nondescript results and I probably didn't actually do it" is...annoying at least, if not wolfy.

[nutella]

Feline Vivisection - In Three Parts
Un.

Cats, nature's greatest mistake. Yet humanity has revered and worshipped them for millennia.

Why? They are such obvious villains.

And the feline in our midst is no different.

The reason I suspected Cat initially was a post they made defending Made from a Mac prod. It immediately gave me the impression of a nervous protection of a teammate. It was not long after that that they dropped a scummy vote on Nutella. This morning I followed up on it. I went and checked their full progression on Made and became convinced Cat was mafia. I also found the interactions between the two of them teammate indicative, given their timing; with Made reacting to Cat with the old "oh hai have we met" stereotype and Cat sort of soft batting it, while they were otherwise at odds with one another (don't quote this wall and pick this point out to argue with because yes it's weak and maybe NAI).

At present, the main concern I have is their progression from RVS through to unvoting Made feeling too constructed. Lacking the random energy of town and being too mindful of not appearing "scummy". As you'll see I have picked that up with Cat with two separate pushes. This one, and also their rising anti-Nutella sentiment having the same over-constructed approach.

When you add their relatively low content volume, the relative incisiveness of their perspectives vs. their volume and the lack (until now) of any real push against them. I do believe you have a mafia.

Tbc.

I don't think cat and made are teammates tbh but otherwise ok

[MacDougall]

Feline Vivisection - In Three Parts
Un.

Cats, nature's greatest mistake. Yet humanity has revered and worshipped them for millennia.

Why? They are such obvious villains.

And the feline in our midst is no different.

The reason I suspected Cat initially was a post they made defending Made from a Mac prod. It immediately gave me the impression of a nervous protection of a teammate. It was not long after that that they dropped a scummy vote on Nutella. This morning I followed up on it. I went and checked their full progression on Made and became convinced Cat was mafia. I also found the interactions between the two of them teammate indicative, given their timing; with Made reacting to Cat with the old "oh hai have we met" stereotype and Cat sort of soft batting it, while they were otherwise at odds with one another (don't quote this wall and pick this point out to argue with because yes it's weak and maybe NAI).

At present, the main concern I have is their progression from RVS through to unvoting Made feeling too constructed. Lacking the random energy of town and being too mindful of not appearing "scummy". As you'll see I have picked that up with Cat with two separate pushes. This one, and also their rising anti-Nutella sentiment having the same over-constructed approach.

When you add their relatively low content volume, the relative incisiveness of their perspectives vs. their volume and the lack (until now) of any real push against them. I do believe you have a mafia.

Tbc.

I don't think cat and made are teammates tbh but otherwise ok

Have you read part 2?

[Hyena]

FYI there’s no way I’m reading a 19 page D0.

Imma just pretend to suspect Nutella or something.

This is the way.

Relatable, buuuuut you two could have been around more so that you wouldn't HAVE to read 19 pages all at once! Granted, this is more directed towards Jack then anyone else.

[Timsup2nothin]

Have I hit 10 minutes yet?

No that's five.

[nutella]

Lacking the random energy of town and being too mindful of not appearing "scummy". As you'll see I have picked that up with Cat with two separate pushes. This one, and also their rising anti-Nutella sentiment having the same over-constructed approach.

When you add their relatively low content volume, the relative incisiveness of their perspectives

tl;dr plinki plinki plink, rigid, not waterfally

yes those terms really do matter to me

im sold

[VOTE: cat] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

Cat more scum than made ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Nothing I say has any foundation btw, unless it's direct interactions I have or if it's about Radish =p
Radish and quite possibly 112 still scum.

[Hyena]

Ok. I skipped like 8 pages in the earlies.

There's some evidence of two wolf teams, right?

So you consider wild speculation as evidence? If so, probably, but having skipped waaaaaaay more than eight pages I can't say for sure.

Man, I keep saying I want to look at Long Con, but I keep forgetting to do so. Either way, Tim and Long Con aren't w/w.

[Hyena]

Okay wait, so if 2 wolfie teams, then shouldn’t everyone be scummy???

Like sure they can baddie hunt or w/e but they should still look bad right?

I won last year’s GoC as scum because I was able to believably hunt the other team to extinction. Multiball helps wolves in the thread, hurts them out of it.

Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?

They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.

Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.

I really wish you would've helped me push Sloonei earlier. D: Do you still hate that post though? How are you feeling about Sloonei now?

[Timsup2nothin]

@MacDougall

If Cat flips town do you think it would be okay if a vig just shoots you?